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oirg
08-23-2007, 08:20 AM
US or WTO?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/23/business/worldbusiness/23gamble.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1187871339-r1k9zTRkAHGXzrfa5IQzPw


Complying with the W.T.O. ruling, Professor Jackson said, would require Congress and the Bush administration either to reverse course and permit Americans to place bets online legally with offshore casinos or, equally unlikely, impose an across-the-board ban on all forms of Internet gambling — including the online purchase of lottery tickets, participation in Web-based pro sports fantasy leagues and off-track wagering on horse racing.

But not complying with the decision presents big problems of its own for Washington. That’s because Mr. Mendel, who is claiming $3.4 billion in damages on behalf of Antigua, has asked the trade organization to grant a rare form of compensation if the American government refuses to accept the ruling: permission for Antiguans to violate intellectual property laws by allowing them to distribute copies of American music, movie and software products, among others.

For the W.T.O. itself, the decision is equally fraught with peril. It cannot back down because that would undermine its credibility with the rest of the world. But if it actually carries out the penalties, it risks a political backlash in the United States, the most powerful force for free-flowing global trade and the W.T.O.’s biggest backer.



One reason for all the interest is the David-and-Goliath aspect of the case. Another is that the dispute, as the trade organization’s first to deal with the Internet, is likely to serve as a major precedent in establishing rules of commerce in an online age and dealing with such prickly issues as China’s attempts to block online content it finds offensive.

Yet another reason the fraternity of trade lawyers and experts are so closely watching the case, Mr. Van Den Hende said, is “that the U.S. is not behaving as one would expect.”

“One day they’re out there saying how scandalous it is that China doesn’t respect W.T.O. decisions,” he said. “But then the next day there’s a dispute that doesn’t go their way and their attitude is: The decision is completely wrong, these judges don’t know what they’re doing, why should we comply?”

An interesting case.

hardinda
08-23-2007, 09:24 AM
Once the W.T.O. wins this case, I want to be part of the class action lawsuit due to lost wages :tup:

SirVLCIV
08-23-2007, 09:34 AM
Online gambling should be allowed. Banning it is an effective, but dumb, way to prevent money laundering.

Next.

IAm@Work.com
08-23-2007, 12:57 PM
But if it actually carries out the penalties, it risks a political backlash in the United States, the most powerful force for free-flowing global trade and the W.T.O.’s biggest backer.This is written as if the only two choices are to drop the case all together or demand permission for Antiguans to violate intellectual property laws.

If I were the WTO, and assuming that the rest of the case supported a ruling in favor of the Antiguans, I would strive to come up with a punishment for the US that was not illegal itself.

What's being demanded is a little along the lines of, "My city isn't protecting my property adequately, so I am suing them for permission to rob the local bank whenever I need money."

Ronald Reagan
08-23-2007, 01:06 PM
US or WTO?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/23/business/worldbusiness/23gamble.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1187871339-r1k9zTRkAHGXzrfa5IQzPw






An interesting case.

We often ignore rulings that go against us. See canadian softwood dispute.

We do what we want. We are the empire. Deal with it...

MountainHawk
08-23-2007, 01:08 PM
This is written as if the only two choices are to drop the case all together or demand permission for Antiguans to violate intellectual property laws.

If I were the WTO, and assuming that the rest of the case supported a ruling in favor of the Antiguans, I would strive to come up with a punishment for the US that was not illegal itself.

What's being demanded is a little along the lines of, "My city isn't protecting my property adequately, so I am suing them for permission to rob the local bank whenever I need money."
Actually, the relief the Antiguans requested is part of the WTO treaty, and therefore not illegal in any meaningful sense of the word.

jayhawk
08-23-2007, 01:29 PM
This is written as if the only two choices are to drop the case all together or demand permission for Antiguans to violate intellectual property laws.

If I were the WTO, and assuming that the rest of the case supported a ruling in favor of the Antiguans, I would strive to come up with a punishment for the US that was not illegal itself.

What's being demanded is a little along the lines of, "My city isn't protecting my property adequately, so I am suing them for permission to rob the local bank whenever I need money."

What Antigua is requesting is legal under the WTO. It was put in to give a way for smaller countries to be 'made whole' if they were wronged. If France wins a WTO case against us, they could propose trade barriers, tarriffs, special taxes on US items that would cause us to react. If Antigua does the same, no one would blink an eye, so the WTO allows countries to resolve disputes by violating intellectual property rights.