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Shrek
12-14-2001, 11:07 AM
Gail,

I'm sure you've received your share of mail recently, and I'd like to add my
own thoughts.

While I suspect many of my views reflect those of many of my friends and
fellow students, I speak only for myself. I bear no ill will toward the CAS,
and in fact count on its future to protect my livelihood. In that regard I
try to point out things that, from my perspective, have a negative impact on
the profession and the Society. I have posted on some issues using my real
name. << Links deleted >> At other
times, I have posted simply as Mrs Nesbit, as in the case of my recent
"civil disobedience" campaign, ending with my final post as Mrs Nesbit:
http://www.casact.org/students/forums/noncgi/Forum14/HTML/003052.html

For the record, I have received no warnings from the COOS regarding any of
my posts (despite posting to the "Offensive words..." thread,) or my latest
action. My motivation in writing to you directly is two-fold. First and
foremost, because I believe that a great injustice has been done to many of
my friends, and second, I think continued action of the COOS along these
lines may impact the future of our Society.

Warning and banning people en masse because someone finds a (one-year-old)
thread offensive is beyond ridiculous. Many who have been warned, or have
actually been banned have added to lively discussions, and occasionally have
been of aid to others, not only on the Water Cooler, but in the Exam fora as
well. It is troubling that these students may not have access to these fora
in the future.

The future of the CAS depends on the current students, disenfranchising a
large portion of us is a step in the wrong direction. I believe that the
future "movers and shakers" of this society are the same ones who show their
interest by participating in various discussion, and show their creativity
in their postings, rather than the ones who bury their heads in books and
fly through the exams. Our future depends less on our book knowledge than
our creativity and innovation.

Through my network of friends, I have learned that the COOS will be meeting
next week. I ask that consideration be given to the following:

Reinstatement of ALL banned posters, not just those affected by the blanket
accusation of posting in an "offensive" thread.

Implementation of additional BB features, with specific consideration to the
"ignore poster" option I have seen elsewhere.

Implement some kind of "due process" before banning posters in the future.

Since I do not know the members of the COOS, I ask that you forward this to
the Committee prior to their meeting next week for their consideration.
Thank you.

Cordially,

*******, formerly known as Mrs Nesbit

Anonymous
12-14-2001, 09:49 PM
Well done. I have not yet written directly to either Sawyer, Ross, or Conger -- every time I start an e-mail, I have an urge to use words I never used in posts. I sent Liller a terse expression of outrage, it was easier to be civil with him as I've only met him once.

You are absolutely correct. The CAS had managed to attract and retain the largest online community of students from the CAS, SOA, and even some internationally. It should have capitalized on that asset by giving the forum problems some serious thought. Rather than research alternatives and determine the root of the problem, a feat for which actuaries should be well-suited, COOS elected a kneejerk solution which destroyed years of networking and friendship branded under CAS in a matter of hours. It is good to see that it has largely migrated here with minimal interruption. It will take the CAS years to rebuild an online forum, if indeed, that be possible at this point.

Thanks for the memories in quick passing Buzz, you brought back some classic threads. It was fun to watch them scroll past Wednesday night.

Shrek
12-15-2001, 11:21 PM
Yeah, it wasn't until after I sent it that I realized that Gail isn't prez yet...I think the big man gets a copy and Gail gets a "thanks for listening, and sorry i started with you" note come Monday morning.

Anonymous
12-15-2001, 11:28 PM
Nah, Gail is quite a bulldog. P, PE, or ex-P, she is that can take over any meeting she attends. Your note landed in the lap of someone who can act on it.

Wigmeister General
05-26-2009, 02:18 AM
This seems appropriate given the permabans that have happened on THIS website recently.

:bump:

Not Paul Harvey
05-26-2009, 09:42 AM
Here is my letter:
Dear Betsy,

Nice job with that flag. I'm glad you left enough space in the blue area for future versions with more stars. That's good forward thinking.

Love,

Not Paul Harvey

Travis
05-26-2009, 11:37 AM
This seems appropriate given the permabans that have happened on THIS website recently.

:bump:

Who was permabanned recently?

Patrick Bauer
05-26-2009, 12:32 PM
Who was permabanned recently?

Haven't the B-52's reunited?

Ginormous76
05-26-2009, 12:38 PM
Who is Gail Ross?

Patrick Bauer
05-26-2009, 12:50 PM
Who is Gail Ross?

I think she used to be one of the Supremes.

Ginormous76
05-26-2009, 02:07 PM
I think she used to be one of the Supremes.

That's Diana Ross. I don't get any hits on Gail Ross on wiki.

The Drunken Actuary
05-26-2009, 02:17 PM
That's Diana Ross. I don't get any hits on Gail Ross on wiki.

Can't you tell from the context of the OP?

Patrick Bauer
05-26-2009, 02:24 PM
That's Diana Ross. I don't get any hits on Gail Ross on wiki.
I thought Diana Ross was that gay dude on Friends?

General Apathy
05-26-2009, 02:25 PM
who was perma-banned?

Ginormous76
05-26-2009, 02:26 PM
Can't you tell from the context of the OP?

You expect me to read ALL that?

The Drunken Actuary
05-26-2009, 02:27 PM
Who was permabanned recently?

Violet Beuragard (sp)

General Apathy
05-26-2009, 02:28 PM
Violet Beuragard (sp)

and who was she?

The Drunken Actuary
05-26-2009, 03:00 PM
and who was she?

Quinn's 33-post buddy. She's been mourning her untimely banning all day.

lipman
05-26-2009, 03:01 PM
Violet Beuragard (sp)

So 1 poster who had 33 posts got perma banned?

OH NOES!