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thing
12-06-2007, 02:50 PM
Based upon the above rules, the sessions in your plan from June 2005 can not be considered.
:swear:
Just to be clear, I could have gotten everything submitted by July 31, 2007. But about July 3, 2007, I saw that the deadline had been extended by 3 months, and said "why bother rushing to get it out this month, then?", and promptly put it on the backburner until a hard deadline forced me to type up the last of my conference notes. Which is to say, I screwed up.
However, I am still irked with the SOA, primarily over the 25 day limit I now have to find 15 credits of distance learning that fell within the 25 month period, order it, listen to/read it, write it up, and resubmit.
botswana
12-06-2007, 03:00 PM
If you didn't already max out on the non-approved credits, I would try to include write-ups from any training you've done for your company (triple credits) or any company trainings you've attended that could be considered actuarial in nature. Good luck!
Willie Mosconi
12-06-2007, 03:01 PM
Unfortunately, it is the candidate's responsibility to make sure that each of the numerical constraints are met: 25-month limit from first session to final submission, max 15 credits of distance learning, max 15 credits prior to initial plan approved, etc. I actually had to replace some earlier credits on my plan once I pushed mine back.
I guess this also answers the question as to whether the SOA would stick to their rule about no extensions past 12/31.
Best of luck with the resubmission!
Edited: Botswana - good call on the non-approved credits. I never went down that route, so it didn't cross my mind!
botswana
12-06-2007, 03:05 PM
By the way, Thing, when did SOA recieve your executed plan?
thing
12-06-2007, 03:19 PM
non-approved credits is a good thought, thanks bots. I won't be able to cobble all the credits out of that, but it's a great idea. (Oct 31st submission)
Boink
12-06-2007, 11:46 PM
On the plus side, they notified you with enough time to modify and re-submit. I got mine in on the 30th and haven't heard anything yet so I'm hoping they'll do the same for me if I'm not already safe.
SANDS
12-07-2007, 11:13 PM
If you didn't already max out on the non-approved credits, I would try to include write-ups from any training you've done for your company (triple credits) or any company trainings you've attended that could be considered actuarial in nature. Good luck!
i believe non-approved credits is a great idea. Here are some things to remember for each writeup
1. how it applies to your educational objective
2. how it applys to your professional and client development
3. how the learning will assist you, your client work , company
4. of course that the training session meets the 25 month time frame
5. clearly state your dates attended, make sure the dates are consistent with your handout dates... for uniformity
also, you MUST submit the non-soa approved handouts with your writeups, so for each non-approved writeup, you should submit like the powerpoint slides. due to the time constraints, I would email them both the writeups and the non-soa approved slides and also Fed-ex
7. make sure non of the write-ups are redudant.
hope this helps and good luck.
botswana
12-08-2007, 11:51 PM
Actually, you don't need to turn in the actual power points for non-approved programs- just the agenda suffices. (My PD got approved yesterday and I had 8 credits from a company meeting, from 8 different sessions. I just handed in the agenda for the company meeting.)
Also, my entire 50 credits were written up in 20+ pages. You only need to cover the topics that SANDS mentioned - no need to try to summarize everything covered in the session. I know lots of people turn in 100 page PDs, but I don't think it's necessary.
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