9 militants killed in attack in Afghanistan

[2pac Shakur]

KABUL, Afghanistan - U.S. troops on Monday reinforced a remote military outpost after well-armed militants got inside and killed nine American soldiers in the deadliest assault on U.S. forces in Afghanistan in three years.

Sunday's assault has deepened doubts about the U.S. military's ability to contain Islamic militants. Attacks in Afghanistan are becoming more complex, intense and better coordinated than a year ago, U.S. officials say.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080714/ap_on_re_as/afghanistan

We gotta stay in Afghanistan.
How else we gonna catch Bin Laden?

[lennie]

I see you love dead Americans as much as always.

[Wally]

So if someone loves dead Americans, would he want to keep troops in Afghanistan & Iraq, or bring them home?

[Ohel Moed]

So if someone loves dead Americans, would he want to keep troops in Afghanistan & Iraq, or bring them home?
It's a great question, Wally. I would like to see 2pac demonstrate that he loves American soldiers more than he hates the American leadership.

[lennie]

So if someone loves dead Americans, would he want to keep troops in Afghanistan & Iraq, or bring them home?
Unfortunately celebrating deaths on American soil costs you your tasteless avatar privileges. 2p knows this and wants permanent occupation for optimal Jihad and posting satisfaction.

[Dr. John Zoidberg]

2pac is quite lucky that the moderating team here looks like a Marxist convention.

[The President]

It seems pretty dumb that there is still a need for us to even be there. Could it have been run any more poorly?

[Ohel Moed]

It seems pretty dumb that there is still a need for us to even be there. Could it have been run any more poorly?
"Still" a need? You mean you thought there once was?

[Standtall]

It seems pretty dumb that there is still a need for us to even be there. Could it have been run any more poorly?

Of course it could have.

[2pac Shakur]

I see you love dead Americans as much as always.

Why do you say that? Because I called them :qunq: militants :qunq:?

[Pseudolus]

It seems pretty dumb that there is still a need for us to even be there. Could it have been run any more poorly?

As if you have the barest scintilla of a clue of how long this might optimally have taken, or how that could have been accomplished.

[Ohel Moed]

As if you have the barest scintilla of a clue of how long this might optimally have taken, or how that could have been accomplished.

You've been dying to use that word 'scintilla,' haven't you? Well, it worked great!

[2pac Shakur]

As if you have the barest scintilla of a clue of how long this might optimally have taken, or how that could have been accomplished.

Russia should have stayed, right?

[The President]

"Still" a need? You mean you thought there once was?
Whatever the need was, it should have been corrected in nearly 7 years.

[The President]

Of course it could have.
It is difficult to believe that negative progress could have been achieved.

[The President]

As if you have the barest scintilla of a clue of how long this might optimally have taken, or how that could have been accomplished.
I am pretty sure the answer is less than 7 years.

[Standtall]

It is difficult to believe that negative progress could have been achieved.

How do you define progress?

[2pac Shakur]

How do you define progress?

Coming home.

[Standtall]

I am pretty sure the answer is less than 7 years.

How did you arrive at that?

[Standtall]

Coming home.

They started at home silly.

[2pac Shakur]

Coming home.

Or Bush dancing around on an aircraft carrier with a big Mission Accomplished sign while you guys all :usa:.

[2pac Shakur]

They started at home silly.

And that's where progress stopped, brah.

[Standtall]

Or Bush dancing around on an aircraft carrier with a big Mission Accomplished sign while you guys all :usa:.

I was not aware he danced. Do you have a link?

[2pac Shakur]

How did you arrive at that?

Should Russia have stayed in Afghanistan?

[Standtall]

And that's where progress stopped, brah.

So progress means doing nothing?

[Standtall]

Should Russia have stayed in Afghanistan?

Russians should decide that for themselves.

[2pac Shakur]

Russians should decide that for themselves.

Aren't most Americans against us staying in Afghanistan?

[The President]

How do you define progress?
If progress has happened lots of politicians would be showing us clear examples of it.

[The President]

How did you arrive at that?
Average length of previous wars that have resulted in success < 7 years.

[Standtall]

Aren't most Americans against us staying in Afghanistan?

I don't know.

I do know that I am against us staying there.

[The President]

So progress means doing nothing?
In this case it may have.

[2pac Shakur]

I don't know.

I do know that I am against us staying there.

So am I.
Most Americans are, but we don't get to decide. We aren't deciders, like W.

[Standtall]

Average length of previous wars that have resulted in success < 7 years.

Wars are different.

[Standtall]

If progress has happened lots of politicians would be showing us clear examples of it.

They say stuff all the time. It doesn't play as well as things like quagmire and death counts.

[The President]

Wars are different.
Yes, some we win, others we lose then pretend like we didn't for a really long time then give up. This doesn't appear to be one of those that fall in the win category.

[The President]

They say stuff all the time. It doesn't play as well as things like quagmire and death counts.
Say stuff <> clear examples of progress.

McCain would be discussing why things are great, not why he would do things differently.

[Standtall]

Say stuff <> clear examples of progress.

McCain would be discussing why things are great, not why he would do things differently.

If someone brings up a good thing that happened, all the haters jump around and scream about bad things.

[Standtall]

If progress has happened lots of politicians would be showing us clear examples of it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/03/20080313-4.html

Here you go.

I googled "Afghanistan Progress"

[2pac Shakur]

If someone brings up a good thing that happened, all the haters jump around and scream about bad things.

So 9/11 was a good thing because it brought about all this good stuff in Afghanistan?

[Pseudolus]

Average length of previous wars that have resulted in success < 7 years.
You can't possibly be that simpleminded.

[Dr. John Zoidberg]

9/11 was a good thingJust quoting for posterity

[2pac Shakur]

Just quoting for posterity

It's :usa: logic, not mine.

[The President]

You can't possibly be that simpleminded.
Can't say I have found a need to be any less...

[The President]

If someone brings up a good thing that happened, all the haters jump around and scream about bad things.
So McCain isn't being honest?

[2pac Shakur]

KABUL, Afghanistan - U.S. troops abandoned a remote outpost in eastern Afghanistan where militants killed nine of their comrades this week, officials said Wednesday, in another sign of the struggle facing foreign and Afghan security forces strung out along the mountainous border.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080716/ap_on_re_as/afghanistan

According to Bush logic (I know - that's an oxymoran), those 9 militants died in vain.

[Ohel Moed]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080716/ap_on_re_as/afghanistan

According to Bush logic (I know - that's an oxymoran), those 9 militants died in vain.

Your convoluted thinking lost me. From that article:
NATO confirmed that the post, which lies amid precipitous mountains close to the Pakistan border, had been vacated while insisting that international and Afghan troops will "retain a strong presence in that area with patrolling and other means."

[2pac Shakur]

Your convoluted thinking lost me. From that article:

:2pac:
So why can't we leave Iraq?
Don't they have troops?
:2pac:

[Ohel Moed]

How do you expect to have a dialogue if you're going to jump from question to question?

[lennie]

He doesn't expect.

[2pac Shakur]

How do you expect to have a dialogue if you're going to jump from question to question?

Socratic method.

[Ohel Moed]

Socratic method.
If Socrates would've used your tactics, we would never have heard of him today.