TIA Memorization Package ---?

[ConfusedNY]

Is this being released?

[Mel]

:bump:
And a bump to bring this to TIA attention. I still can't get this online either.

[ConfusedNY]

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[Mo' 5!]

Well I am little annoyed at this point. They said the end of JULY and now it says on there website 9/1/2008. I am not sure what the delay is. I would really like to have flashcards and such.
I'm sorry but for the memorization package, I don't recall every saying that it would be released by the end of July. On the website, it always said 9/1 as the delivery date for the flash cards. I apologize if someone gave you other information, but I will refund you your money if you contact me. We will be releasing the electronic material over the next few weeks. I am very busy these days and don't visit the AO much so please contact me for fastest reply. You can call me at 888-TIA-1006. Thanks.

[akorakd]

Yo Mo!,
Do you still check emails? I've sent you like 2 emails already with no reply. What's up?

[Berners-Lee]

Mo,

can it still be released as schedule (i.e. 9/1/2008)?

[Mel]

I am getting a little frustrated. I know the site said 9/1 for the cards, but since nothing else was mentioned, I figured the e-files were basically available when I ordered. I emailed and heard back from Jennifer that the efiles may not even be there until 9/1. I really wanted to get the "mind map" skeletons (which must all ready exist) as that is my typical way to organize anyhow (except usually by hand which would take too too long). I guess I just wish the site had been more clear that the whole package might not be available until 9/1 versus only mentioning the cards.

And no, I dont want a refund at this point...I want my study material.

[LauraJane]

I am getting a little frustrated. I know the site said 9/1 for the cards, but since nothing else was mentioned, I figured the e-files were basically available when I ordered. I emailed and heard back from Jennifer that the efiles may not even be there until 9/1. I really wanted to get the "mind map" skeletons (which must all ready exist) as that is my typical way to organize anyhow (except usually by hand which would take too too long). I guess I just wish the site had been more clear that the whole package might not be available until 9/1 versus only mentioning the cards.

And no, I dont want a refund at this point...I want my study material.

You can't start complaining until you don't get the mind map material until 4 days before the exam (as was the case with the CSP exam)....

that being said, I believe the website says the memorization package won't be available until 9/1 - which includes flash cards, mind map & MP3 audio flash cards so I am not sure where your expectations were led astray.

I guess just try to focus on the material you have available to you instead of the material that you don't.....easier said than done, I realize!

[Mel]

thanks Laura.

I know I should be worrying less about that, but I got a 5 last year so I am kind of at a loss at to what to do now ya know.

Also, I swear the TIA site said 9/1 for the cards and did not address the rest before. Now, when I go, it says the whole package. I could be crazy but I would like some confirmation :)

[Berners-Lee]

Anyone received the whole package yet?

Is it true that the printed flash card are not available to the order outside US?

[ConfusedNY]

I also do not see it on the website. I am not sure when it was mailed out.

[junaid]

Well, the day has arrived ;)

The package must be dispatched by now

[ConfusedNY]

Well, the day has arrived ;)

The package must be dispatched by now

DO you think?

[Berners-Lee]

The clock is ticking and I am seriously considering if it is worth to wait for TIA pack. Or should i switch to other package now?

I am particular intested in the mind map which I never use this tool before, does it help to improve studying/ memorizing?

Suggestion Pls.

[Inigo Montoya]

Has anyone received an update from TIA regarding the availability of the memorization package?

[Inigo Montoya]

57 days until the exam. How many days until the memorization package is available? :popcorn:

[ConfusedNY]

Spoke to Day he said it will be mailed out but if you are going to the seminar they will hand it out.

I guess this is not 9/1/2008.

[Inigo Montoya]

Thanks. Did he also mention when the electronic materials would be available?

[ConfusedNY]

Thanks. Did he also mention when the electronic materials would be available?

He said last night but, that turned out not to be true.

[Mel]

Any updates on this yet??
I emailed early yesterday and havent heard anything. I also used the "contact us" form today. This is so frustrating to not have the e-files at the least.
Did Day mention a DATE when anything would be available besides "in the mail or at seminar"?
argh

[ConfusedNY]

Any updates on this yet??
I emailed early yesterday and havent heard anything. I also used the "contact us" form today. This is so frustrating to not have the e-files at the least.
Did Day mention a DATE when anything would be available besides "in the mail or at seminar"?
argh

Yeah you will most likely get it quicker at the seminar than waiting the mail.

[Berners-Lee]

Yeah you will most likely get it quicker at the seminar than waiting the mail.

It's not fair for those who dont attend the live seminar.

[Inigo Montoya]

The Infinite Actuary Waiting Without Bounds :shake:

[Mel]

yeah, i am not in the seminar. However, I still need to study. ARGH. Time to look elsewhere I guess.

[Ten4Show Six4Dough]

A MindMapper link was added to the TIA site. You need to download a viewer from the MindMapper website in order to open any of the files. (the link in the TIA website wasn't working for me so here
http://www.mindmapper.com/down/down.asp )

Only the first section is up right now but it looks interesting.
:tup:

[sweetie]

A MindMapper link was added to the TIA site. You need to download a viewer from the MindMapper website in order to open any of the files. (the link in the TIA website wasn't working for me so here
http://www.mindmapper.com/down/down.asp )

Only the first section is up right now but it looks interesting.
:tup:

Although I'm not ready to use this yet, but I'm curious to see how it works. I think Day should send us an instruction on how it works for new users like me. I don't know if I should install the professional version, academic version, or standard version, ect.

[Furballz]

Has anyone received their flashcards yet?

[futboller04]

when did you guys get your cards? who do we contact to get the serial number for the mindmapper?

[azn_to]

Has anyone received their flashcards yet?

No i haven't received anything

[jitian1000]

I haven't received anything yet? Am I going to get it before Oct. 1?

[LauraJane]

I just got back from the seminar and the materials weren't handed out there either. We were told they would be in the mail shortly and we should have them in the coming days...apparently there was a printing problem?

[LifeAct]

I just got back from the seminar and the materials weren't handed out there either. We were told they would be in the mail shortly and we should have them in the coming days...apparently there was a printing problem?

Are they aware that the exam is on October 30? Are they planning on delivering them prior to that date?

[futboller04]

how about the mindmapper study tool. Is it just me or has that zip file been pretty much the same for the last few weeks (with the exeception of 2.2.r)? when is that going to be updated? atleast if I had that I've have something in place of the cards.

[Beaumont]

Where are the mindmapper format study materials? I didn't see anything under the memorization package folder. Where are the practice problems for 2008?

[ConfusedNY]

I was impressed with the seminar. But I think Day is a little overwelmed?

[Furballz]

I was impressed with the seminar. But I think Day is a little overwelmed?
Is there any updated ETA on the flashcards?

[AG]

If I recall correctly, the TIA memorization pack was offered for CSP last sitting. The flashcards were, in my opinion, subpar. The memory map software was available at a discount and was advertised as including the CSP material map. There were several delays and only the very first section of the syllabus was published prior to the exam date. This isn't a bash, just trying to recall the facts. Anybody feel free to jump in and correct me.

With only four weeks remaining to the exam, it seems to me the mind map and/or flash cards would be of limited value... we should be well into the memorization and cognitive compaction phases by now. Good luck!

[ConfusedNY]

JB was a great presenter. The online seminar was also very nice. TIA in general (ie memorization packet, information added to website) has been terrible and will not use TIA Materials or recommend them. We are almost to 10/1 and was guaranteed the material would be in hand 9/1. This is an extreme stretch.

[LauraJane]

This was my opinion after the CSP exam: when we didn't receive the mind maps until 4 days before the exam (and then only received the first part).

I think the DP seminar is great and would recommend Jeremy Bill a thousand times over....but I wouldn't recommend the rest of the TIA material. I don't feel like they have a bad product, I just feel like they took on more than they can handle and in the end its the students who get screwed. If they stopped trying to be everything to everyone they'd have more much more success....

I also feel like they have been horrible with communication this sitting. I understand that sh*t happens and that maybe the printing people messed up the flash card printing TWICE....but as customers we have received no notification about what is going on or when to expect the material (other than 9/1 which has clearly passed)....I think that would go a long way in placating people's gripes right now.

Disclaimer: this is only an opinion of one person. do with it what you will.....you are certainly entitled to your own opinions.....

[sweetie]

I was hoping Day would give us a refund.

[ConfusedNY]

They need to hire another person or a couple more people.

[kiki]

I'm not seeing any memorization cards for section B. Does anyone have section B's cards yet? I'm talking about the electronic version. I don't have the printed version.

[Belle0913]

Is anyone having trouble opening the jpeg and mp3 files? When I try at home, it says the file is invalid or corrupted, and when I try on my work computer, the zip file opens but there's nothing in there. I e-mailed Day about this (and the fact that we still don't have the flashcards) on Tuesday but have not heard back yet.

[sweetie]

I wonder if rekrap has any inside information. Where are you, rekrap? I would understand if Day got a divorce or terminarlly ill.... Not that I want him to be in that situation, but I need some explanation that makes sense. At least 1 short email to everyone telling us what's going on.

[Belle0913]

I finally got a hold of Day yesterday. He said the flashcards were mailed earlier this week and I should expect them "early next week, if not today." He helped me with the issue I was having downloading the rest of the memorization package, but now as I'm adding it to my ipod, I'm getting very frustrated. Does anyone else feel like there's a LOT missing from the Part A flashcards? For CSP, I liked theirs better than ACE or Actex, so this time I only ordered TIA, but now I'm worried that was a mistake. It would have been nice if I had realized this on 9/1 when we were supposed to get this stuff instead of on 10/4...

[Mel]

Just curious at this point...has anyone received the flashcards?

Also a note...I think the mind maps are missing some material. The glaring thing I noticed (basically because I HATE the material) is the material from New World Product Development (four-fields mapping, ladder, etc).

[Inigo Montoya]

Just curious at this point...has anyone received the flashcards?

Also a note...I think the mind maps are missing some material. The glaring thing I noticed (basically because I HATE the material) is the material from New World Product Development (four-fields mapping, ladder, etc).

I Haven't received the flashcards yet either.

The World Class Product Development material is in section 1.4.c of the mind map (Product Design / Product Development Process). :exams:

[Mel]

Thanks! Somehow I missed that. And I agree on the pukey

[Furballz]

I finally got a hold of Day yesterday. He said the flashcards were mailed earlier this week and I should expect them "early next week, if not today." He helped me with the issue I was having downloading the rest of the memorization package, but now as I'm adding it to my ipod, I'm getting very frustrated. Does anyone else feel like there's a LOT missing from the Part A flashcards? For CSP, I liked theirs better than ACE or Actex, so this time I only ordered TIA, but now I'm worried that was a mistake. It would have been nice if I had realized this on 9/1 when we were supposed to get this stuff instead of on 10/4...

I couldn't agree more.

[Mel]

I finally got a hold of Day yesterday. He said the flashcards were mailed earlier this week and I should expect them "early next week, if not today." He helped me with the issue I was having downloading the rest of the memorization package, but now as I'm adding it to my ipod, I'm getting very frustrated. Does anyone else feel like there's a LOT missing from the Part A flashcards? For CSP, I liked theirs better than ACE or Actex, so this time I only ordered TIA, but now I'm worried that was a mistake. It would have been nice if I had realized this on 9/1 when we were supposed to get this stuff instead of on 10/4...

Did you ever get your cards? I still dont have mine.

[Belle0913]

Did you ever get your cards? I still dont have mine.

Nope!!! I think I'm going to call again. I don't even care about the cards anymore now that I realize how lacking they are after looking at the electronic version. But now it's just the principle of it...

[LifeAct]

It this a TIA problem, or is it a TIA-DP problem? I was happy with the online seminar for DP, and I was thinking about using their mind-mapper and flashcards for CSP next spring, but I don't like what I am reading in this thread.

[LauraJane]

It this a TIA problem, or is it a TIA-DP problem? I was happy with the online seminar for DP, and I was thinking about using their mind-mapper and flashcards for CSP next spring, but I don't like what I am reading in this thread.

Honestly, I've heard from other students that they've been having issues with TIA on other exams and I for one was NOT impressed with CSP memorization package.

I realize that CSP was the first time they offered this package and that was probably half of the problem.....but given the mess with DP, maybe that wasn't the issue. For CSP the flash cards were 1 sided (which if you ask me defeats the purpose of a 'flash card') and we got section A of the mind mapper material 4 days before the exam (again, I doubt this would be an issue for 2009, but at this rate who knows).

Given their lack of communication and inability to provide appropriate study material for this exam my recommendation is (and has been) to use the Online/Live seminar from TIA (although I didn't like TIA's live seminar for CSP) and rely on ACE for all other material......but this is just MY OPINION!

[Furballz]

Just out of curiosity, is there anyone taking ILA DP who has received falshcards from TIA?

[maegwin]

Nothing in the mail and no email to inform me about things available online. I have been using my old ACE cards. At this point I think I would prefer a refund.

[Seldon]

So if I sell you all study materials that never arrive, do you promise not to harrass me for a refund too since your companies are paying for it and it's not really your money? Or does that only work if I get you something a week before the exam?

[Furballz]

So if I sell you all study materials that never arrive, do you promise not to harrass me for a refund too since your companies are paying for it and it's not really your money? Or does that only work if I get you something a week before the exam?
Well seeing as how I can barely get a reply from them and it'sone week from the exam, I think I'll just focus on studying what I do have and harrass TIA/spread the lack of delivery word about the company next week.

[LauraJane]

The funny thing is I didn't pay for my DP memorization package because TIA was trying to show me the improvement over CSP (which I made my opinions clear about).....they certainly failed in showing me their improvement. In fact they further solidified my opinion....

[LifeAct]

So did anyone actually receive there cards before the exam?

They'll arrive by Monday.

[ConfusedNY]

They'll arrive by Monday.

Ha....

[jitian1000]

Is it time to request refund? Or it will be done automatically.

[LauraJane]

Is it time to request refund? Or it will be done automatically.

I doubt it will be done automatically. Day made a big stink last time about how much the mind mapper material cost and that we were getting way more than the $200 we paid. I wouldn't be surprised if he refused refunds or didn't give complete ones because of all the other 'memorization package' items we did receive.

Not that I agree, but there were other things in this package that were provided to us.

[Seldon]

I thought you guys probably got the cards because of this post.

TIA is my only source of studying & I got 2/3 of TIA's cards memorized. Don't know if I can fill in the details. Will try to memorize 1/3 of the cards in the next few days.

Just don't feel like studying though. Thank God today is my last day of the crazy work cycle.

[sweetie]

I thought you guys probably got the cards because of this post.

Everyone had access to the cards online.

[Belle0913]

Did anyone ever follow up with Day regarding a refund? He told me that people are threatening lawsuits and that he might not be in business by the end of the year. Now I feel bad for him :-(

[AG]

I would think he overpromised and refused to admit to himself that he might not be able to deliver. If the flashcards were available online to those that purchased them, perhaps the definition of "flash cards" was misunderstood. Were hardcopies promised?

I hope this gets resolved amicably. It would be a shame to lose a resource for study material, just because an ancillary study tool was overlooked. Solid seminar, solid study guide, solid videos. mind map and paper flashcards just didn't pan out.

[Inigo Montoya]

I would think he overpromised and refused to admit to himself that he might not be able to deliver. If the flashcards were available online to those that purchased them, perhaps the definition of "flash cards" was misunderstood. Were hardcopies promised?

I hope this gets resolved amicably. It would be a shame to lose a resource for study material, just because an ancillary study tool was overlooked. Solid seminar, solid study guide, solid videos. mind map and paper flashcards just didn't pan out.

:iatp:

Try sending an email to Day to see if there's something he can do to make amends for you. Yes, printed flash cards were promised as part of the memorization package, but they were only a part. I would not expect a refund for the entire package because one part was not available.

[Seldon]

lol, lawsuits. People get nuts around exam time, especially if it gives a way to pass off the responsibility for a potential failure.

[jitian1000]

I did not have access to the online card since I did not sign up for either the online seminar or live seminar. And I wrote Day email and never got response. I think I need request refund one more time.

[Seldon]

If TIA is non-responsive, you may want to discuss it with somebody in your actuarial program. I know my program coordinator tends to get things done in this regard.

[maegwin]

Those of you who had access to the online flashcards, how did you know that they were available? I looked a few times on thier site and I couldn't find anything.

[Inigo Montoya]

Those of you who had access to the online flashcards, how did you know that they were available? I looked a few times on thier site and I couldn't find anything.

The memorization package was only available through the back-up sites (tiavideos1 or tiavideos2).