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SirVLCIV
09-17-2008, 06:38 PM
:tup:

Ohel Moed
09-17-2008, 06:42 PM
You could just have easily labelled this:
Thread for SirVLCIV to ignore problematic information about his favored candidate.

SirVLCIV
09-17-2008, 09:12 PM
You could just have easily labelled this:
Thread for SirVLCIV to ignore problematic information about his favored candidate.

Nope, not really.

Ohel Moed
09-22-2008, 02:34 PM
Thanks for setting up this thread, SirVLCIV.
I'm taking a chance with this next smear -- it comes from a rightwing blog, and, well, you know about them. It says its findings are not conclusive. I'll follow up on this story in the case it turns out not to be true, how the Obama campaign reacts, how Harry reacts, the degree of its significance, etc:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php

The Jawa Report: Hope, Change, & Lies: Orchestrated ‘Grassroots’ Smear Campaigns & the People that Run Them.

Our research suggests that a subdivision of one of the largest public relations firms in the world most likely started and promulgated rumors about Sarah Palin that were known to be false. These rumors were spread in a surreptitious manner to avoid exposure.

It is also likely that the PR firm was paid by outside sources to run the smear campaign. While not conclusive, evidence suggests a link to the Barack Obama campaign. Namely:

* Evidence suggests that a YouTube video with false claims about Palin was uploaded and promoted by members of a professional PR firm.

* The family that runs the PR firm has extensive ties to the Democratic Party, the netroots, and are staunch Obama supporters.

* Evidence suggests that the firm engaged in a concerted effort to distribute the video in such a way that it would appear to have gone viral on its own. Yet this effort took place on company time.

* Evidence suggests that these distribution efforts included actions by at least one employee of the firm who is unconnected with the family running the company.

* The voice-over artist used in this supposedly amateur video is a professional.

* This same voice-over artist has worked extensively with David Axelrod’s firm, which has a history of engaging in phony grassroots efforts, otherwise known as “astroturfing.”

* David Axelrod is Barack Obama’s chief media strategist.

* The same voice-over artist has worked directly for the Barack Obama campaign.

UPDATE: Within an hour of this post going up, YouTube videos implicating Ethan Winner were yanked, sockpuppet accounts deleted, and more importantly, the Wikipedia entry on David Axelrod began to edit out mentions of his well known astroturfing campaigns. Hmmm, it sounds to me like we’re on to something.

We have backups of all the deleted websites, and will update as soon as we can.

Wigmeister General
09-22-2008, 02:45 PM
Yahoo has an article explaining the psychology as to why people support (irrationally) their "favorite" candidate. At least now I know why I haven't been able to convince anyone that Barr should be the next POTUS. :rolleyes:

Harry
09-22-2008, 03:33 PM
Thanks for setting up this thread, SirVLCIV.
I'm taking a chance with this next smear -- it comes from a rightwing blog, and, well, you know about them. It says its findings are not conclusive. I'll follow up on this story in the case it turns out not to be true, how the Obama campaign reacts, the degree of its significance, etc:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php
Wow, that was a whole lot of......nothing. Good work!

win diesel
09-22-2008, 03:44 PM
Dirty fooking ole' Chicago politics. Just more of the same.

H.R. Paperstacks
09-22-2008, 03:45 PM
Dirty fooking ole' Chicago politics. Just more of the same.

Is that like saying he is just like McCain or Bush?

Ohel Moed
09-22-2008, 03:49 PM
Is that like saying he is just like McCain or Bush?
I read it as:
Dirty fooking ole' Chicago politics. Just more of the same.
not
Dirty fooking ole' Chicago politics. Just more of the same.

Ohel Moed
09-22-2008, 03:55 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/cagw-says-obama-not-the-worst-senator-on-waste-biden-is/

Citizens Against Government Waste: Obama not the worst Senator on waste — Biden is.

John McCain has am 88% rating from CAGW, while Barack Obama limps to a paltry 18%. However, Obama has a consolation prize in that he didn’t finish dead last. His running mate ensured that.
Sourcewatch (whom I'm sure is just as unbiased as CAGW, cough) on CAGW can be found here: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Citizens_Against_Government_Waste

ETA: video here: http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/cagw-says-obama-not-the-worst-senator-on-waste-biden-is/

H.R. Paperstacks
09-22-2008, 03:59 PM
I read it as:
Dirty fooking ole' Chicago politics. Just more of the same.
not
Dirty fooking ole' Chicago politics. Just more of the same.

So it depends on who is reading it.

Ohel Moed
09-22-2008, 04:06 PM
So it depends on who is reading it.
Others here might interpret it as the following, just because they like the word:
Dirty fooking ole' Chicago politics. Just more of the same.

Ohel Moed
09-22-2008, 09:09 PM
Ohel Moed: http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php
Wow, that was a whole lot of......nothing. Good work!
You read the whole thing? There's a lot there. I had only read the short summary before posting post #4. I just finished reading the whole thing and I really think the fellow, zealous as he is, really uncovered something significant. One thing I find intriguing is how some people he's making his charges against are very quickly removing evidence from the web. But he was smart enough to take screen shots first.

Harry
09-23-2008, 10:41 AM
You read the whole thing? There's a lot there. I had only read the short summary before posting post #4. I just finished reading the whole thing and I really think the fellow, zealous as he is, really uncovered something significant. One thing I find intriguing is how some people he's making his charges against are very quickly removing evidence from the web. But he was smart enough to take screen shots first.
Why don't you tell us what you believe to be significant, along with the supporting evidence? Thanks.

Ohel Moed
09-23-2008, 11:50 AM
Ohel Moed: You read the whole thing? There's a lot there.
Why don't you tell us what you believe to be significant, along with the supporting evidence? Thanks.
Since you didn't answer, I conclude that your previous statement, "Wow, that was a whole lot of......nothing. Good work!" was said prematurely. (And immaturely.)

Harry
09-23-2008, 01:08 PM
Since you didn't answer, I conclude that your previous statement, "Wow, that was a whole lot of......nothing. Good work!" was said prematurely. (And immaturely.)
No, I read it. I'm just curious what you thought was significant and why. I'll wait for you to tell us what you think.

Ohel Moed
11-04-2008, 10:30 PM
Oh what the heck, the election is over -- guess it couldn't hurt to put in one more smear for old times' sake...

Who wrote the following?

There are serious antiracist organizers building a revolutionary base in working class communities — in neighborhoods, shops, mills, mines, social institutions. There are those who are working among women, GI’s, vets, prisoners, among youth, students and the unemployed in every part of the country. There are some who have been at it for years and some who have just begun. Thousands more are needed; and each particular piece of work will have to be linked up into a whole. We need to out-organize the sophisticated and well-financed forces of George Meany, Louise Day Hicks, Ronald Reagan, George Wallace and Albert Shanker. Organizers need to crush this reactionary leadership with a revolutionized torrent of people.... But revolutionaries expect adversity, expect to be fought every inch of the way by an entrenched ruling class, expect to confront danger and demoralization and overcome it, with creativity and audacity.