It's all gay / feminist's fault?

[Anonymous]

On Thursday's broadcast of the Christian television program "The 700 Club," Falwell, in a discussion with host Pat Robertson about the terrorist attacks PROMOTION
in the United States, said:

"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'"

During another part of the show, Falwell asserted that, because of the groups named above, God allowed "the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve." Robertson agreed.

[Traci]

Gee - the word "moron" is coming in so handy lately!

(re: Falwell and Robertson - not you anon)

[Anonymous]

Falwell & Robertson are right. We're like any great civilization before the fall, so pre-occupied with material things that we laugh at religion.

[The Mad Hatter]

Isn't it obvious that religion is the problem? Certainly, the Taliban do not suffer from too much secular thinking.

[Anonymous]

Falwell's finger pointing feels like Nazism. While I consider myself a committed Christian, I am grateful for the continued battle to preserve separation of church and state.

I am reminded a scene from the "The American President." As a paraphrase, "Jerry Falwell, your fifteen minutes are up!"

[Anonymous]

To blame all Islamic fundamentalists let alone all those of Islamic faith for the 9/11 attach is equivalent to blaming all Fundamental Christians or all Christians for the idiots who kill abortion doctors and firebomb abortion clinics.

Only a minuscule percentage of fundamental Christians support and would kill abortion doctors, and I am sure the same can be said about people of the Islamic faith's support of suicide bombers.

Think about this before you use disparaging remarks to people of Arab descent or people of the Islamic faith.

[Anonymous]

Are we Jerry's Kids? (http://www.actuary.ca/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=170&forum=22&5)

[Anonymous]

On 2001-09-17 12:03, Biker Actuary wrote:
To blame all Islamic fundamentalists let alone all those of Islamic faith for the 9/11 attach is equivalent to blaming all Fundamental Christians or all Christians for the idiots who kill abortion doctors and firebomb abortion clinics.


It's not equivalent at all. Fundamental Christian abortion doctor-killers (may they rot in hell) carry out acts of violence against abortion doctors. They don't fly a plane into a building full of innocents to become martyrs for their glorious cause.

[WWSituation]

Moron, yes;
A-hole, definitely!

This confirms for me that they are truly ignorant and it isn't just a front they have to get famous.

[Anonymous]

On 2001-09-17 14:31, Anonymous wrote:

On 2001-09-17 12:03, Biker Actuary wrote:
To blame all Islamic fundamentalists let alone all those of Islamic faith for the 9/11 attach is equivalent to blaming all Fundamental Christians or all Christians for the idiots who kill abortion doctors and firebomb abortion clinics.


It's not equivalent at all. Fundamental Christian abortion doctor-killers (may they rot in hell) carry out acts of violence against abortion doctors. They don't fly a plane into a building full of innocents to become martyrs for their glorious cause.


Really? Maybe for Islamic fundamentalists, the "innocents" like us should be in the hell too.

[Anonymous]

Perhaps equivalent is not the best but I am mad as hell at this whole thing and perhaps could have found a better choice of words.

The point still is that Islam is being d*mned for that faiths lunatic fringe.

I am trying to show in terms that perhaps we (Americans) may more easily understand that condemning those of a particular faith for the actions of a small narrow-minded lunatic fringe is wrong -- what better way of showing this than taking the ludicrous proposition that all Christianity should be condemned because of the lunatic fringe anti-abortion terrorists.

A side note: I just hope someone doesn't tell me that anti-abortionists who shoot at or kill abortion providers, blow up clinics, hound doctors, … are not terrorists.

One either believes in the rule of law or one does not.






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[RTVA]

FWIW, this quote has been exaggerated a great deal. I don't dispute that it was a fairly inflammatory remark, but it was not saying that the attacks were the "fault" of gays, feminists, abortionists (whoever) as the topic heading implies. The discussion was on whether the 'sins' of America have caused God to remove his 'hand of protection' from the country.

Not that God was punishing anyone.
Not that anyone but the terrorists caused it.

[Anonymous]

I cease to try to understand the fringe loony bin of any religion - Christian, Islam. The religious right really scares me. Anyone else?