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Fortal
01-08-2002, 03:31 PM

casquetboy
01-08-2002, 04:18 PM
These are from a friend, my score is not in yet.
# correct: 22
score: 6

Taps
01-08-2002, 04:42 PM
27-28
9

Macroman
01-08-2002, 05:33 PM
score: 4
# correct: not sure, had 10 of 1st 20 right estimate 17-18 correct

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cycloneclark
01-08-2002, 06:51 PM
27

Score 8

jaegar
01-08-2002, 08:32 PM

jaegar
01-08-2002, 08:33 PM
Correct: either 20 or 21
Score: 5

casquetboy
01-08-2002, 09:37 PM
Here's another data point:
# correct: 23
score: 6

This suggests a passing score of 22 and the following ranges: 22,23 - 6, 24,25 - 7, 26,27 - 8, 28,29 - 9, 30+ - 10.

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Alien
01-09-2002, 08:27 AM
23 correct

TP
01-09-2002, 10:03 AM
>=26

MathGuy
01-09-2002, 01:36 PM
24 - 6

This suggests that the pass score is 22 and the scores are not integer based. That is, if the pass score is 22 then a 1.1*22 = 24.2 is needed to get a 7.

Anonymous
01-09-2002, 02:46 PM
22-23
6

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Tallest
01-09-2002, 02:57 PM
On 2002-01-08 15:31, FORTAL wrote:

21-24 correct

Daisy
01-10-2002, 08:11 AM
10 -- 33-34 correct

Anonymous
01-10-2002, 09:07 AM
I scored a 9 with 29 correct.
A coworker scored an 8 when she also got 29 correct.

I think the SOA is full of BS when they say they give equal weight to all problems - even if a question was thrown out, according to what others are saying it still seems like we should have received the same score.

MathGuy
01-10-2002, 09:21 AM
NM3 -

1.3*22 = 28.6. Therefore, 28 correct gets a 8, 29 correct gets a 9. Instead of assuming that the SOA is lying about their scoring method, don't you think it is easier to believe that your co-worker is wrong about the number she got right? I know I do.

casquetboy
01-10-2002, 10:31 AM
The fact is, under the given circumstances, and upon review of the exam, it is extremely difficult to "remember" every answer exactly as picked on the exam. You have to question each individual's "memorizing" method and it's effectiveness. It's very easy to make a mistake. Also, an improperly filled oval on the aswer sheet may change score expectations slightly.

treyso
01-10-2002, 11:18 AM
25, give or take 1 or 2. Got a 7 on the exam.

DCHeel
01-10-2002, 03:41 PM
25, give or take 1 or 2. Got a 7 on the exam.

Anonymous
01-11-2002, 08:57 AM
As far as memorizing method:
What kind of moron memorizes the answers instead of storing them in the calculator?

We all know that the SOA says they don't grade on a curve, when they do. I'm just suggesting that they may say equal weight is given to each problem, but again that could be something they are just saying.

Sorry, I felt as if I was attacked so I'm striking back.

MathGuy
01-11-2002, 09:19 AM
I don't want to speak for casquetboy, but I think putting "memorizing" in quotes is a tongue in cheek way of saying "storing in the calculator. However, there are plenty of people who are saying they got "around" a certain number right, meaning that they are just going from memory, which is not at all reliable. I would imagine your co-worker used this method, or miskeyed one of her answers into the calculator.

And as people keep knocking the exams and the Socities, someone might as well come to their defense: the pass score was 55% correct, including guessing. A person could pass the exam while only knowing how to do less than half of the questions on the exam (and then guessing on the rest). If the exam was graded on a "scale" (does that have any meaning for a pass/fail exam?), then it was done in favor of the students.

Steve White
01-11-2002, 09:25 AM
"I'm just suggesting that they may say equal weight is given to each problem, but again that could be something they are just saying."

I have never seen any indication of even considering weighting questions differently, and there are many times (including all prior course 3 exams) that I'm positive all points were weighted equally. I have no doubt that Nov 2001 was the same way, but have no personal knowledge that it was.

I said "all points" rather than "all questions" since Nov 2000 course 3 explicitly had some questions worth 1 and some worth 2. Those point weights were used. For exams like May 2001 course 3, with no point weightings in the exam booklet, all questions are equally weighted.

Anonymous
01-11-2002, 09:28 AM
I never argued that it wasn't to the advantage of the students. We do know they grade on a scale, that is why the number necessary to pass changes each sitting. If it was an easier exam, you need more right to pass because they are never going to let more than 50% pass one of these lower exams.

Maybe I did attack the SOA a little, but I can validate what I am saying. I am sure that we have about 5% of the people that actually took the exam posting to this forum so our data is extremely biased and skewed.

I'm sure that we all check our answers more than once, though, to ensure that we don't "make mistakes in our calculators". Thanks for your concern for everyone involved, though.