Best 80's movie ever! The Championship... ZOMG! Finally

[Ginormous76]

Empire Strikes Back vs. Princess Bride

After a grueling tournament, we have arrived. Who will be our champion?

[punmanbowler]

Luke: Hallo, my name Luke Skywalker, you killed my father, prepare to die!
clink... clank.... bzzt
Darth Vader: Impressive.... very impressive
Luke: Then why are you smiling?
Vader: Because I know something you don't know. I am not left handed.
Luke: Yeah well, I'm not left handed either!
bzzzt
Vader: You're not right-handed either!
Luke: But... you killed my father!!!
Darth Vader: No.... I am your father.
Luke: Inconceivable!

The Princess Jedi?
Dread Pirate Roberts strikes back?

[Kool-Aid Man]

Luke: I'll never join you!!!!
Vader: As you wish.
Luke: [Falls]

[td25er]

I'd rather watch Howard the Duck over and over than either of these movies.

[radoaos]

Gotta go with the force on this one. PB is a helluva good pick too though...

[vividox]

Luke: Hallo, my name Luke Skywalker, you killed my father, prepare to die!
clink... clank.... bzzt
Darth Vader: Impressive.... very impressive
Luke: Then why are you smiling?
Vader: Because I know something you don't know. I am not left handed.
Luke: Yeah well, I'm not left handed either!
bzzzt
Vader: You're not right-handed either!
Luke: But... you killed my father!!!
Darth Vader: No.... I am your father.
Luke: Inconceivable!

The Princess Jedi?
Dread Pirate Roberts strikes back?

This was hilarious. :tup:

[ShakeNBakes]

The final really should have been ESB vs Raiders. PB is funny but way overrated.

[vividox]

I dunno if I can pick here, these are two of my favorite movies of all time. It's like choosing a favorite child. Not that I have children. It's just what I would imagine picking a child would be like if I had children.

[mlschop]

I'd rather watch Howard the Duck over and over than either of these movies.

:iatp:

I haven't been paying attention to this tournament...where was Back to the Future?

[Cheezy]

I dunno if I can pick here, these are two of my favorite movies of all time. It's like choosing a favorite child. Not that I have children. It's just what I would imagine picking a child would be like if I had children.


??? Picking a favorite child is easy, it's the one you love the most. And people with children, don't give me the "I love all my children the same." That's a crock. There is one that you like and love more than the others.

[jalapeno29]

The final really should have been ESB vs Raiders. PB is funny but way overrated.

PB is :exams:

[Chronus]

Luke: Hallo, my name Luke Skywalker, you killed my father, prepare to die!
clink... clank.... bzzt
Darth Vader: Impressive.... very impressive
Luke: Then why are you smiling?
Vader: Because I know something you don't know. I am not left handed.
Luke: Yeah well, I'm not left handed either!
bzzzt
Vader: You're not right-handed either!
Luke: But... you killed my father!!!
Darth Vader: No.... I am your father.
Luke: Inconceivable!

The Princess Jedi?
Dread Pirate Roberts strikes back?

I well done, I enjoyed this quite a bit. FTR I gave my vote to empire but love Princess Bride.

[Nobody22]

While everyone is intitled to define "best" differently...

Which one had more depth? (plot/characters/story/themes)

[punmanbowler]

Hmm. Both involve a loved one getting "killed" by a man in black, who later turns out to be the protagonists loved one. Just in different ways.

Both involve huge hairy unintelligle beings.

[Linus]

I haven't been paying attention to this tournament...where was Better Off Dead?

IFYP

[Linus]

I liked Princess Bride. But the whole fascination and cult around it is one thing I've never understood. :shrug:

[Kool-Aid Man]

I liked Princess Bride. But the whole fascination and cult around it is one thing I've never understood. :shrug:
It's a huge cult hit for the same reason Monty Python's Holy Grail is. It's not so much a movie as it is a collection of five minute sketches loosely tied together by a threadbare plot that doesn't matter except to set up each sketch. And every one of the sketches is brilliant.

[Cannonball]

I can watch each of these movies again and again. Loved 'em both. But in the end I had to go with ESB. The whole enemy-is-in-fact-father trumps the more light-hearted PB.

[ADoubleDot]

Luke: Hallo, my name Luke Skywalker, you killed my father, prepare to die!
clink... clank.... bzzt
Darth Vader: Impressive.... very impressive
Luke: Then why are you smiling?
Vader: Because I know something you don't know. I am not left handed.
Luke: Yeah well, I'm not left handed either!
bzzzt
Vader: You're not right-handed either!
Luke: But... you killed my father!!!
Darth Vader: No.... I am your father.
Luke: Inconceivable!

The Princess Jedi?
Dread Pirate Roberts strikes back?

:notworth:

[geta6]

i got sick of waiting for rickson to vote so i just flipped a coin

[ADoubleDot]

this decision is stressin me out. I come back

[Joe Blow]

ESB has two divergent storylines with awkward transitions between them.

[Abstract Actuary]

Two great movies and, probably, the 'correct' final matchup. I'm actually going to vote for Princess Bride, even though I know it will probably lose. Honestly, if it was "Star Wars" (as a whole) against Princess Bride than Star Wars would win, no contest. But as a single movie (taken completely separate from its prequel and sequel) I don't think it is nearly as good as "Star Wars" is. I think many people aren't truly considering that when they vote.

I realize I should have flushed this out earlier, since it may make people rethink their vote. But, like I have done once before (not in the final four, that matchup was a joke) I am going to vote against Empire Strikes Back.

Final answer
"Star Wars">>>>Princess Bride>>Empire Strikes Back

[ADoubleDot]

ESB has two divergent storylines with awkward transitions between them.

But PB is totally cohesive?

[GadgetGeek]

with Raiders bumped, this was a hard choice. TESB is a great movie, but I made the mistake of reading the book before seeing the movie, which is likely why I voted for PB. If you've not read the book for PB, it is about as funny.

[MAX.]

Can you really watch ESB over and over again? I saw it the first time as a kid (thought it was awesome) and watched it again as an adult (but did other things at the same time). I don't think I'd want to sit through it a 3rd time.

[vividox]

What? You haven't seen ESB more than twice? Absurd.

[Patience]

Two great movies and, probably, the 'correct' final matchup. I'm actually going to vote for Princess Bride, even though I know it will probably lose. Honestly, if it was "Star Wars" (as a whole) against Princess Bride than Star Wars would win, no contest. But as a single movie (taken completely separate from its prequel and sequel) I don't think it is nearly as good as "Star Wars" is. I think many people aren't truly considering that when they vote.

I realize I should have flushed this out earlier, since it may make people rethink their vote. But, like I have done once before (not in the final four, that matchup was a joke) I am going to vote against Empire Strikes Back.

Final answer
"Star Wars">>>>Princess Bride>>Empire Strikes Back

Flesched out; not fleshed and certainly not flushed

[Abstract Actuary]

Flesched out; not fleshed and certainly not flushed

Thanks :tup:

[Patience]

When they first came out Raiders and Star Wars IV had the biggest wow factors of any movies I have ever seen. and for people who know me, I have seen a lot.

I love PB, my children love PB, we have all read the book and can quote the lines. and if nothing else is on we can always just sit and watch from where ever it is.

With Star Wars I don't do this, it is more epic and serial and I need to go from beginning to end. But for depth of plot, characters, originality I have to go Empire Strikes Back, though I would probably vote Raiders 1 and A New Hope 2, from things I have said in here before.

[Kenshiro]

Flesched out; not fleshed and certainly not flushed

Is that a r I'm not able to n?

[Patience]

Is that a r I'm not able to n?

no, that's proper English

[punmanbowler]

Honestly, I think the Clerks bit on Empire vs Jedi has influence much of the opinion, including mine. Yes, Empire has that great wow moment when Vader reveals who he really is, and that moment STILL gives me chills. But the rest of the movie is about the hyperdrive not working, Han and Leia playing cat & mouse with the empire, and Luke learning more about the force. There's not a whole lot of meat to the middle once you get past Hoth. It's all at the end in the cloud city. Not to say Jedi's much better, since it's a lot of prancing in the woods with Ewoks, but still I like the end of Jedi when Luke finally turns Vader back.

I voted PB because I'm part of the cult. This is my favorite movie of all time. I can almost recite the entire movie from memory. It has fantastic characters, wars, princes, torture, fencing, fighting, miracles,... true love. (sorry, went into Grandpa mode). PB also has probably one of the best collection of quotable movie lines, with only Naked Gun and Airplane to possibly beat it.

[MAX.]

Honestly, I think the Clerks bit on Empire vs Jedi has influence much of the opinion, including mine.

I think you're overestimated the number of people that have seen or remember that movie.

[Kenshiro]

no, that's proper English

Since when?

Link please. Even to a dictionary with "flesched" in it.

[Cheezy]

Can you really watch ESB over and over again? I saw it the first time as a kid (thought it was awesome) and watched it again as an adult (but did other things at the same time). I don't think I'd want to sit through it a 3rd time.

You've been outed Treky!

[Ginormous76]

Final answer
"Star Wars">>>>Princess Bride>>Empire Strikes Back

I respectfully disagree. ESB is the best Star Wars movie. Hoth, Yoda, tonton, Wampa, Lando's betrayal, Luke finding out Vader is his father, Luke losing his hand, the ending. Gold, solid gold.

[Will Durant]

How is it even this close?

[jalapeno29]

I think you're overestimated the number of people that have seen or remember that movie.

I remember Clerks

[Joe Blow]

But PB is totally cohesive?

Buttercup and Wesley together. Buttercup and Wesley apart trying to get together.

Luke and Yoda together. Leia and Han. Darth Vader and Han. Darth Vader and Luke. Luke and Leia.

[glassjaws]

I just hate Star Wars.

[Cannonball]

I just hate Star Wars.

Star Wars hates you even more!

[Patience]

Since when?

Link please. Even to a dictionary with "flesched" in it.

my fault, confused it with the readability score standard, though we can agree it ain't flushed

[Triweasel]

my fault, confused it with the readability score standard, though we can agree it ain't flushed

phew i thought i was losing my mind for a second there.

so we all agree it is fleshed, right?

[FormLetter]

not to 50

[Kenshiro]

phew i thought i was losing my mind for a second there.

so we all agree it is fleshed, right?

It's certainly not flesched. :) Flushed out could be meaningful, but he'd be stretching an analogy a bit (i.e. he's flushing this idea out of the bushes). I'm really not sure if AA meant fleshed or flushed, but the meaning doesn't seem to change too much either way.

[IMP]

i just don't see how these 2 movies are in the finals. :shrug:

[ADoubleDot]

i just don't see how these 2 movies are in the finals. :shrug:

Maybe you forgot to carry the :geek:?

[jalapeno29]

how is this score so close ESB is so much better

[IMP]

looks like someone's alts are voting now. :shrug:

[jalapeno29]

i have no alts

[IMP]

The following are the 10 top-grossing films of the decade:

E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982), $435 million
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (1983), $309 million
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980), $290 million
Batman (1989), $251 million
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), $245 million
Ghostbusters (1984), $238 million
Beverly Hills Cop (1984), $234 million
Back to the Future (1985), $210 million
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989), $197 million
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984), $179 million


************************************************** ******

THE PRINCESS BRIDE

Domestic Total Gross: $30,857,814
Distributor: Fox Release Date: September 25, 1987
Genre: Adventure Comedy Running Time: 1 hrs. 38 min.


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THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

Domestic Total Gross: $209,398,025
Domestic Lifetime Gross: $290,475,067
Distributor: Fox Release Date: May 21, 1980
Genre: Sci-Fi Fantasy Running Time: 2 hrs. 9 min.

[vividox]

The following are the 10 top-grossing films of the decade:

E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982), $435 million
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (1983), $309 million
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980), $290 million
Batman (1989), $251 million
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), $245 million
Ghostbusters (1984), $238 million
Beverly Hills Cop (1984), $234 million
Back to the Future (1985), $210 million
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989), $197 million
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984), $179 million


************************************************** ******

THE PRINCESS BRIDE

Domestic Total Gross: $30,857,814
Distributor: Fox Release Date: September 25, 1987
Genre: Adventure Comedy Running Time: 1 hrs. 38 min.


************************************************** ******

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

Domestic Total Gross: $209,398,025
Domestic Lifetime Gross: $290,475,067
Distributor: Fox Release Date: May 21, 1980
Genre: Sci-Fi Fantasy Running Time: 2 hrs. 9 min.

Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince is breaking every movie record there is right now (It grossed around 27 (?) million on its opening night). Does that make it the best movie ever? There is a difference between "blockbuster" and "great movie". I certainly don't judge quality of music by how much money an artist's album brings in, why should I do the same for movies?

[jalapeno29]

Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince is breaking every movie record there is right now (It grossed around 27 (?) million on its opening night). Does that make it the best movie ever? There is a difference between "blockbuster" and "great movie". I certainly don't judge quality of music by how much money an artist's album brings in, why should I do the same for movies?

Its all about the benjamins!

[Chronus]

Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince is breaking every movie record there is right now (It grossed around 27 (?) million on its opening night). Does that make it the best movie ever? There is a difference between "blockbuster" and "great movie". I certainly don't judge quality of music by how much money an artist's album brings in, why should I do the same for movies?

Exactly, look at how much money that POS titanic made.

[Ginormous76]

Exactly, look at how much money that POS titanic made.

:iatp: Titanic sucks.

[Triweasel]

It's certainly not flesched. :) Flushed out could be meaningful, but he'd be stretching an analogy a bit (i.e. he's flushing this idea out of the bushes). I'm really not sure if AA meant fleshed or flushed, but the meaning doesn't seem to change too much either way.

i always thought of it like at first you have a skeleton, and then you put flesh on it, making it more complete. plus it's kinda gross when you think about it, which can be entertaining.

[frummie]

Funny, I didn't love either of these. Abstain.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

The following are the 10 top-grossing films of the decade:

E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982), $435 million
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (1983), $309 million
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980), $290 million
Batman (1989), $251 million
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), $245 million
Ghostbusters (1984), $238 million
Beverly Hills Cop (1984), $234 million
Back to the Future (1985), $210 million
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989), $197 million
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984), $179 million


************************************************** ******

THE PRINCESS BRIDE

Domestic Total Gross: $30,857,814
Distributor: Fox Release Date: September 25, 1987
Genre: Adventure Comedy Running Time: 1 hrs. 38 min.


************************************************** ******

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

Domestic Total Gross: $209,398,025
Domestic Lifetime Gross: $290,475,067
Distributor: Fox Release Date: May 21, 1980
Genre: Sci-Fi Fantasy Running Time: 2 hrs. 9 min.
Insert "And your Point Is?" emoticon.

I'll submit that the titles of the thread series should have been "AO's best 1980's movies..."

[Bamafan]

Both movies are great. TESB wins because it is more awesomer. It is chock full of emotional moments punctuated with humor. All killer, no filler.

Also, TESB wins on music alone. I love TPB, but the music is terrible.

[Joe Blow]

Insert "And your Point Is?" emoticon.

Return of the Jedi is better than Empire. You know, the one with the Ewoks.

[Ginormous76]

Return of the Jedi is better than Empire. You know, the one with the Ewoks.

:rofl:

Return of the Jedi is better than Empire. You know, the one with the Ewoks.

IFYP

[Chronus]

PB was on TV yesterday. I caught about a half hour of it. Good stuff.

[punmanbowler]

Inigo Strikes Back (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWXcDZNgOWs&feature=related)

[udjw828]

Thanks for the fun tournament, G76!