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Chalengr
09-02-2009, 12:31 AM
Hi AO,
this is my first post here! I just want to get some of your thoughts. I was reading a speech by David Einhorn, a hedge fund manager, and he mentions something interesting:

The second question is how do the investment banks justify such thin capitalization ratios? And the answer is, in part, by relying on flawed risk models, most notably Value-at-Risk or “VaR.” Value-at-Risk is an interesting concept. The idea is to tell how much a portfolio stands to make or lose 95% of the days or 99% of the days or what have you. Of course, if you are a risk manager, you should not be particularly concerned how much is at risk 95 or 99% of the time. You don’t need to have a lot of advanced math to know that the answer will always be a manageable amount that will not jeopardize the bank. A risk manager’s job is to worry about whether the bank is putting itself at risk in the unusual times or in statistical terms, in the tails of distribution. Yet, Value-at-Risk ignores what happens in the tails. It specifically cuts them off. A 99% Value-at-Risk calculation does not evaluate what happens in the last one percent. This, in my view, makes VaR relatively useless as a risk management tool and potentially catastrophic when its use creates a false sense of security among senior managers and watchdogs. This is like an air bag that works all the time, except when you have a car accident.



Do you agree?

tommie frazier
09-02-2009, 12:49 AM
sure. use TVaR to find the average of that last 1%. now what?

Chalengr
09-02-2009, 01:03 AM
btw,
i got that quote from this speech:

www.tilsonfunds.com/Einhorn-4-08.pdf

it's a pretty cool read.

campbell
09-02-2009, 06:48 AM
Yes, there's this thing called TVaR/CTE that is the expected loss in the tail.

Here's an old exam study note on the topic:
http://www.soa.org/files/pdf/C-25-07.pdf

If you'd like more resources on risk measures/capital measures, I can point them out. The linked note is a good introduction.

JMO
09-02-2009, 07:20 AM
Since this thread deals with quantification of risk, I have moved it to the Risk Management forum. Good topic!