Dems to see a health care poll bounce

[Herbert Hoover]

http://mcaaron.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/bounce.jpg

Dems anticipate a health care bounce

There's no point in the White House saying this, so it won't.

But an official predicted to me the other day that Obama's numbers would hit 60 after the health care bill passes, and Chuck Schumer seems to think roughly the same thing: that the public polling on the Democratic reform bill will turn around "soon."

When people see what is in this bill and when people see what it does, they will come around," Schumer said. "The reason people are negative is not the substance of the bill, but the fears that the opponents have laid out. When those fears don't materialize, and people see the good in the bill, the numbers are going to go up."

[Blue Bird]

You mean like a dead cat once people realize what the effect of this bill will be? Employers cutting jobs, cuts to medicare, more expensive health care?

[Blue Bird]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34498942/ns/politics-health_care_reform/?GT1=43001

I guess people will come around when they see all the votes that were bought with more government spending.

[Drewby]

Right out of office?

[ditkaworshipper]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34498942/ns/politics-health_care_reform/?GT1=43001

I guess people will come around when they see all the votes that were bought with more government spending.

You assume that people understand politics at this level? Wow.

More likely scenario:

1. Bill passes.
2. Healthcare problems intensify.
3. Jobs lost as a result.
4. Misery rating increases, so people are desperate for any kind of help.
5. Socialism offered and government starts taking over more private industry because "they can't figure out how to employ people."
6. Democrat handouts increase and buy votes.
[/rickson]

[Herbert Hoover]

New CNN poll: Obama gains

President Obama has reversed the erosion of his job approval rating and has climbed six percentage points to 54 percent, according to a new national CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll.

Bounce.

[yoyo]

New Rasmussen poll: Obama loses

Approval index at -21%

[Herbert Hoover]

No way dude?! Rasmussen is the bomb!

[MountainHawk]

Bounce.
Funny you didn't include the dates of the poll.

[gomer_tree]

When people see what is in this bill and when people see what it does, they will come around," Schumer said. "The reason people are negative is not the substance of the bill, but the fears that the opponents have laid out. When those fears don't materialize, and people see the good in the bill, the numbers are going to go up."

Translation: people are too stupid to know what's good for them, so we'll decide that for ourselves. Once this becomes part of the morass of politics, people won't be able to tell what the hell is goiong on with anything anyway, and we'll move on to demonizing the GOP over something or another to distract them. Plus, if we pass it now, it gives us a full year for them to forget they didn't want this, and people having short memories, they'll just accept it as having been invevitable and won't remember that we screwed them over. Plus, the real effect of this won't happen until 2014, and with any luck we'll actually be in a recovery by the next election, and we can say it's because of health care reform, because people will be too stupid to realize the impossibility of that suggestion.

[Herbert Hoover]

Translation: people are too stupid to know what's good for them, so we'll decide that for ourselves.

This is true.

[notreallyme]

Bah, Bush signed one of the biggest Healthcare Reform Bills in history and his followers seems to have completely forgotten about that.

[FormLetter]

That sure doesn't make it a good idea.

[gomer_tree]

Bah, Bush signed one of the biggest Healthcare Reform Bills in history and his followers seems to have completely forgotten about that.

Why do you think that?

Poll conservatives here with the question: "What was your least favorite thing about Bush?"

It's been said numerous times. Apparently people such as yourself see support for Bush in one area or another as unilateral support in all areas. Or that we still thought he was better than either guy he ran against as being enamored in all ways with him. Are people really that thick that they have an inability to make these kinds of differentiations?

I'm constantly reminded of, say, TDA's incredulation whenever I'd lament Bush's spending and he'd say something like "So why did you vote for him?" As if I were going to vote for Gore or Kerry and feel like that was any better.

This whole line of thinking is just dumb to me. Yes, us robotic followers of GWB agreed with everything he did. Yes, master.

[yoyo]

It's been said numerous times. Apparently people such as yourself see support for Bush in one area or another as unilateral support in all areas. Or that we still thought he was better than either guy he ran against as being enamored in all ways with him. Are people really that thick that they have an inability to make these kinds of differentiations?
don't forget that you're often speaking to supporters of The One

[gomer_tree]

don't forget that you're often speaking to supporters of The One

This is true, but I didn't think notreallyme was one of those.

[Aaron Brachowitz]

However this shakes out, I don't want it to lead to a resurgence of the GOP. At that point we would be entirely accurate in saying that American politics consists of bouncing from one set of failures to another with ever-increasing rapidity.

[notreallyme]

Why do you think that?

Poll conservatives here with the question: "What was your least favorite thing about Bush?"

It's been said numerous times. Apparently people such as yourself see support for Bush in one area or another as unilateral support in all areas. Or that we still thought he was better than either guy he ran against as being enamored in all ways with him. Are people really that thick that they have an inability to make these kinds of differentiations?

I'm constantly reminded of, say, TDA's incredulation whenever I'd lament Bush's spending and he'd say something like "So why did you vote for him?" As if I were going to vote for Gore or Kerry and feel like that was any better.

This whole line of thinking is just dumb to me. Yes, us robotic followers of GWB agreed with everything he did. Yes, master.

I don't see anyone can even claim to be conservative when they grew Gov't like Bush did.

- OK so you posed your question how about this one: ' What do you feel that Bush did to shrink Gov't that he should be labeled a conservative? '
I haven't seen that answered yet, maybe I'll start a thread and maybe I won't.

[gomer_tree]

I don't see anyone can even claim to be conservative when they grew Gov't like Bush did.

- OK so you posed your question how about this one: ' What do you feel that Bush did to shrink Gov't that he should be labeled a conservative? '
I haven't seen that answered yet, maybe I'll start a thread and maybe I won't.

First I'd ask you "What makes you think I think Bush was a (fiscal) conservative?"

I don't think that, and not sure I ever did.