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Patience
01-25-2010, 11:01 AM
ok, so a while back Alto Reed started a thread on the 100 greatest movies and the desire to watch them all chronologically. At that time I had seen something like 80 some. And he inspired me to see the rest.

Since then the updated 100 greatest came out. I also discovered my daughter was going off her own list from the 1001 movies you need to see before you die. Then that list was updated. So I took the original 100 greatest, the updated 100 greatest, the 10 top 10 by genre - which I then added the 500 films used to nominate them. I added in my daughters 1001 movies 2 lists 1056 in total, all the best picture nominees and the IMBD top 250 (which is subject to change).

I put this all together (a lot less over lap then you might think) and came up with a list of 998 movies I needed to see, based on some opinion.

Well I just saw Intolerance (2008 Greatest, 500 Nominees and 1000) and have now completed the 1997 and 2008 greatest 100. No intention for the long reviews Alto did, but I am setting this up as a forum for discussion.

So yesterday saw Red River (1000, 500, top 10 Western) which was a good epic western, which I would probably keep in the top ten, but a bit lower down.

and Intolerance, which is very long, poorly lighted and confusing with 4 seperate stories. The last hour was better than the lead in


So 983 to go

5 from the 10 top 10
617 from the 1000 (1058 updated)
152 from the 500 AFI Nom
57 from the IMDB 250
199 from the Best Picture Nominees

Patience
01-25-2010, 11:01 AM
1902 A Trip to the Moon (1902) 1000
1903 The Great Train Robbery (1903) 1000
1915 Les Vampires (1915) 1000
1919 Broken Blossoms (1919) 1000
1919 The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1919) 1000
1920 Way Down East (1920) 1000
1920 Within Our Gates (1920) 1000
1921 Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse, The, Metro, 1921 500
1921 Orphans of the Storm (1921) 1000
1921 The Kid (1921) 250
1921 The Phantom Carriage (1921) 1000
1922 Dr. Mabuse, Parts 1 and 2 (1922) 1000
1922 Nanook of the North (1922) 1000
1922 Nosferatu, A Symphony of Terror (1922) 1000
1922 The Smiling Madame Beudet (1922) 1000
1923 Foolish Wives (1923) 1000
1923 Haxan (1923) 1000
1923 Our Hospitality (1923) 1000
1923 Ten Commandments, The, Paramount, 1923 500
1923 The Wheel (1923) 1000
1924 Greed (1924) 1000
1924 Iron Horse, The, Fox, 1924 500
1924 Sherlock, Jr. (1924) 1000
1924 Strike (1924) 1000
1924 The Last Laugh (1924) 1000
1924 The Thief of Bagdad (1924) 1000 10top 500
1925 Freshman, The, Pathé, 1925 500
1925 Lost World, The, First National, 1925 500
1925 Seven Chances (1925) 1000
1925 The Battleship Potemkin (1925) 1000
1925 The Big Parade (1925) 1000 500
1925 Tumbleweeds, United Artists, 1925 500
1926 Ben-Hur, Mgm, 1926 500
1927 King Of Kings, The, Pathé, 1927 500
1927 Napoleon (1927) 1000
1927 October (1927) 1000
1927 The Kid Brother (1927) 1000
1927 The Unknown (1927) 1000
1927 Underworld, Paramount, 1927 500
1928 Seventh Heaven nom
1928 Steamboat Bill, Jr. (1928) 1000
1928 Storm over Asia (1928) 1000
1928 The Andalusian Dog (1928) 1000
1928 The Crowd (1928) 1000
1928 The Docks of New York (1928) 1000
1928 The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928) 1000
1928 The Racket nom
1928 Wings BestPic
1929 Alibi nom
1929 Blackmail (1929) 1000
1929 In Old Arizona nom
1929 Pandora’s Box (1929) 1000
1929 The Broadway Melody BestPic
1929 The Hollywood Revue of 1929 nom
1929 The Man with the Movie Camera (1929) 1000
1929 The Patriot nom
1930 Disraeli nom
1930 Earth (1930) 1000
1930 The Age of Gold (1930) 1000
1930 The Big House nom
1930 The Blue Angel (1930) 1000
1930 The Divorcee nom
1930 The Love Parade nom
1931 Cimarron BestPic
1931 City Streets, Paramount, 1931 500
1931 East Lynne nom
1931 Freedom for Us (1931) 1000
1931 Skippy nom
1931 Tabu (1931) 1000
1931 The Bitch (1931) 1000
1931 The Front Page nom
1931 The Million (1931) 1000
1931 Trader Horn nom
1932 Arrowsmith nom
1932 Bad Girl nom
1932 Boudu Saved From Drowning (1932) 1000
1932 Five Star Final nom
1932 Freaks (1932) 1000
1932 Grand Hotel BestPic
1932 Love Me Tonight (1932) 1000
1932 Me and My Gal (1932) 1000
1932 One Hour with You nom
1932 Shanghai Express (1932) 1000 nom
1932 Sign Of The Cross, The, Paramount, 1932 500
1932 The Champ nom
1932 The Smiling Lieutenant nom
1932 The Vampire (1932) 1000
1932 Trouble in Paradise (1932) 1000 500
1933 A Farewell to Arms nom
1933 Cavalcade BestPic
1933 Design For Living, Paramount, 1933 500
1933 Gold Diggers of 1933 (1933) 1000
1933 Lady for a Day nom
1933 Land Without Bread (1933) 1000
1933 Little Women nom
1933 Queen Christina (1933) 1000 500
1933 Smilin' Through nom
1933 Sons of the Desert (1933) 1000
1933 State Fair nom
1933 The Bitter Tea of General Yen (1933) 1000
1933 The Private Life of Henry VIII nom
1933 Zero for Conduct (1933) 1000
1934 Cleopatra nom
1934 Flirtation Walk nom
1934 Here Comes the Navy nom
1934 Imitation of Life nom
1934 It’s A Gift (1934) 1000
1934 Judge Priest (1934) 1000
1934 L’Atalante (1934) 1000
1934 One Night of Love nom
1934 The Barretts of Wimpole Street[I] nom
1934 The Black Cat (1934) 1000
1934 The Gay Divorcee nom
1934 The House of Rothschild[I] nom
1934 The White Parade nom
1934 Triumph of the Will (1934) 1000
1934 Viva Villa nom
1935 ‘G' Men, Warner Bros., 1935 500
1935 A Midsummer Night's Dream nom
1935 Alice Adams nom
1935 Broadway Melody of 1936 nom
1935 David Copperfield nom
1935 Les Misérables nom
1935 Naughty Marietta nom
1935 Ruggles of Red Gap nom
1935 The Lives of a Bengal Lancer nom
1936 A Day in the Country (1936) 1000
1936 Anthony Adverse nom
1936 Camille (1936) 1000
1936 Dodsworth (1936) 1000 nom
1936 Fury, Mgm, 1936 500
1936 Le roman d'un tricheur (1936) The Story of a Cheat 1000
1936 Libeled Lady nom
1936 Romeo and Juliet nom
1936 Sabotage (1936) 1000
1936 San Francisco nom
1936 The Great Ziegfeld BestPic
1936 The Plainsman, Paramount, 1936 500
1936 The Story of Louis Pasteur nom
1936 Things to Come (1936) 1000
1936 Three Smart Girls nom
1937 Captains Courageous (1937) 1000 nom
1937 Grand Illusion (1937) 1000
1937 In Old Chicago nom
1937 Lost Horizon, Columbia, 1937 500 nom
1937 Make Way for Tomorrow (1937) 1000
1937 Midnight Song (1937) 1000
1937 Nothing Sacred, United Artists, 1937 500
1937 One Hundred Men and a Girl nom
1937 Pepe Le Moko (1937) 1000
1937 Stella Dallas (1937) 1000
1937 The Awful Truth (1937) 1000 500 nom
1937 The Good Earth nom
1937 The Life of Emile Zola (1937) 1000 BestPic
1938 Alexander's Ragtime Band nom
1938 Four Daughters nom
1938 Grand Illusion nom
1938 Jezebel (1938) 1000 nom
1938 Olympia (1938) 1000
1938 Pygmalion nom
1938 Test Pilot nom
1938 The Baker’s Wife (1938) 1000
1938 The Citadel nom
1938 The Lady Vanishes (1938) 250
1938 You Can't Take It With You BestPic
1939 Babes in Arms (1939) 1000
1939 Dark Victory nom
1939 Daybreak (1939) 1000
1939 Goodbye, Mr. Chips nom
1939 Hound Of The Baskervilles, The, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1939 500
1939 Love Affair nom
1939 Ninotchka (1939) 1000 500 nom
1939 Only Angels have Wings (1939) 1000
1939 The Rules of the Game (1939) 1000
1939 The Story of the Late Chrysanthemums (1939) 1000
1939 Union Pacific, Paramount, 1939 500
1940 All This, and Heaven Too nom
1940 Brother Orchid, Warner Bros., 1940 500
1940 Dance, Girl, Dance (1940) 1000
1940 Foreign Correspondent nom
1940 Kitty Foyle nom
1940 Rebecca (1940) 1000 500 250 nom
1940 Shop Around The Corner, The, Mgm, 1940 500
1940 The Great Dictator (1940) 250 nom
1940 The Letter nom
1940 The Long Voyage Home nom
1940 The Mortal Storm (1940) 1000
1941 Ball Of Fire, Rko, 1941 500
1941 Blossoms in the Dust nom
1941 Devil And Daniel Webster, The, Rko, 1941 500
1941 Hold Back the Dawn nom
1941 One Foot In Heaven nom
1941 Suspicion, Rko, 1941 500
1941 The Little Foxes nom
1942 49th Parallel nom
1942 Cat People (1942) 1000
1942 I Married A Witch, United Artists, 1942 500
1942 Kings Row nom
1942 Mrs. Miniver BestPic
1942 Now Voyager (1942) 1000
1942 Random Harvest nom
1942 The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) 1000 nom
1942 The Palm Beach Story (1942) 1000 500
1942 The Pied Piper nom
1942 The Talk of the Town nom
1942 To Be or Not to Be (1942) 1000
1942 Wake Island nom
1943 Fires were Started (1943) 1000
1943 For Whom the Bell Tolls nom
1943 I Walked with a Zombie (1943) 1000
1943 In Which We Serve nom
1943 Madame Curie nom
1943 Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) 1000
1943 Ossessione (1943) 1000
1943 The Human Comedy nom
1943 The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943) 1000
1943 The Man in Grey (1943) 1000
1943 The More the Merrier nom
1943 The Seventh Victim (1943) 1000
1943 The Song of Bernadette nom
1943 Watch on the Rhine nom
1944 Arsenic and Old Lace (1944) 250
1944 Canterville Ghost, The, Mgm, 1944 500
1944 Gaslight, Mgm, 1944 500 nom
1944 Henry V (1944) 1000 nom
1944 Ivan the Terrible, Parts One and Two (1944) 1000
1944 Meet Me in St. Louis (1944) 1000
1944 Murder, My Sweet (1944) 1000
1944 Since You Went Away nom
1944 Wilson nom
1945 Detour (1945) 1000
1945 I Know Where I’m Going (1945) 1000
1945 Mildred Pierce (1945) 1000 nom
1945 Open City (1945) 1000
1945 Scarlet Street, Universal, 1945 500
1945 The Battle of San Pietro (1945) 1000
1945 The Children Paradise (1945) 1000
1945 The Lost Weekend (1945) 1000 BestPic
1946 A Matter of Life and Death (1946) 1000
1946 Beauty and the Beast (1946) 1000
1946 Black Narcissus (1946) 1000
1946 Gilda (1946) 1000
1946 Great Expectations (1946) 1000 nom
1946 Killers, The, Universal, 1946 500
1946 Paisan (1946) 1000
1946 The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946) 1000 500
1946 The Razor's Edge nom
1946 The Stranger (1946) 1000
1946 The Yearling nom
1947 Crossfire nom
1947 Monsieur Verdoux (1947) 1000
1947 Odd Man Out (1947) 1000
1947 Out of the Past (1947) 1000
1947 The Bishop's Wife nom
1948 Force of Evil (1948) 1000 500
1948 Hamlet BestPic
1948 Letter from an Unknown Woman (1948) 1000
1948 Louisiana Story (1948) 1000
1948 Mr. Peabody And The Mermaid, Universal, 1948 500
1948 Naked City, The, Universal, 1948 500
1948 Secret Beyond the Door (1948) 1000
1948 Spring in a Small Town (1948) 1000
1948 The Bicycle Thief (1948) Ladri di biciclette 1000 250
1948 The Lady from Shanghai (1948) 1000 500
1948 The Paleface (1948) 1000
1948 The Red Shoes (1948) 1000 nom
1948 The Snake Pit (1948) 1000 nom
1949 A Letter to Three Wives nom
1949 Battleground nom
1949 Gun Crazy (1949) 1000
1949 Orpheus (1949) 1000
1949 The Heiress (1949) 1000 nom
1949 The Reckless Moment (1949) 1000
1949 Twelve O'Clock High nom
1949 Whiskey Galore! (1949) 1000
1950 Broken Arrow, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1950 500
1950 D.O.A., United Artists, 1950 500
1950 Destination Moon, Eagle-Lion, 1950 500
1950 In a Lonely Place (1950) 1000 500
1950 King Solomon's Mines nom
1950 Los Olvidados (1950) 1000
1950 Rashomon (1950) 1000 250
1950 The Asphalt Jungle (1950) 1000
1951 Angels In The Outfield, Mgm, 1951 500
1951 Decision Before Dawn nom
1951 Diary of a Country Priest (1951) 1000
1951 Pandora and the Flying Dutchman (1951) 1000
1951 Quo Vadis?, Mgm, 1951 500 nom
1951 The Lavender Hill Mob (1951) 1000
1951 Thing From Another World, The, Rko, 1951 500
1952 Angel Face (1952) 1000
1952 Europa ‘51 (1952) 1000
1952 Forbidden Games (1952) 1000
1952 Ivanhoe nom
1952 Moulin Rouge nom
1952 The Bad and the Beautiful (1952) 1000
1952 The Big Sky (1952) 1000
1952 The Golden Coach (1952) 1000
1952 To Live (1952) 1000
1952 Umberto D (1952) 1000
1953 Beast From 20,000 Fathoms, The, Warner Bros., 1953 500
1953 Beat the Devil (1953) 1000
1953 I Confess, Warner Bros., 1953 500
1953 It Came From Outer Space, Universal, 1953 500
1953 Julius Caesar, Mgm, 1953 500 nom
1953 Le salaire de la peur (1953) 250
1953 M. Hulot’s Holiday (1953) 1000
1953 Madame De... (1953) 1000
1953 Pickup on South Street (1953) 1000
1953 Robe, The, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1953 500 nom
1953 Tales of Ugetsu (1953) 1000
1953 The Band Wagon (1953) 1000
1953 The Big Heat (1953) 1000
1953 The Bigamist (1953) 1000
1953 The Naked Spur (1953) 1000
1953 Tokyo Story (1953) 1000
1953 Voyage in Italy (1953) 1000
1953 Wages of Fear (1953) 1000
1954 A Star is Born (1954) 1000
1954 Brigadoon, Mgm, 1954 500
1954 Carmen Jones (1954) 1000
1954 La Strada (1954) 1000 250
1954 Les Diaboliques (1954) 1000 250
1954 Salt of the Earth (1954) 1000
1954 Sansho the Baliff (1954) 1000
1954 Silver Lode (1954) 1000
1954 The Barefoot Contessa (1954) 1000
1954 The Wanton Countess (1954) 1000
1954 Them!, Warner Bros., 1954 500
1954 Three Coins in the Fountain nom
1955 Artists and Models (1955) 1000
1955 Bob the Gambler (1955) 1000
1955 Hill 24 Doesn’t Matter (1955) 1000
1955 Kiss Me Deadly (1955) 1000 500
1955 Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing nom
1955 Night and Fog (1955) 1000
1955 Ordet (1955) 1000
1955 Pather Panchali (1955) 1000
1955 Picnic nom
1955 Smiles of a Summer Night (1955) 1000
1955 The Ladykillers (1955) 1000
1955 The Mad Masters (1955) 1000
1955 The Night of the Hunter (1955) 1000 250
1955 The Phenix City Story (1955) 1000
1955 The Rose Tattoo nom
1955 The Sins of Lola Montes (1955) 1000
1956 A Man Escaped (1956) 1000
1956 All that Heaven Allows (1956) 1000
1956 Around the World in 80 Days BestPic
1956 Beyond A Reasonable Doubt, Rko, 1956 500
1956 Bigger Than Life (1956) 1000
1956 Forbidden Planet (1956) 1000 500
1956 Friendly Persuasion nom
1956 High Society (1956) 1000
1956 The Burmese Harp (1956) 1000
1956 The Killing (1956) 250
1956 The Man who Knew Too Much (1956) 1000 500
1956 The Wrong Man (1956) 1000
1956 War And Peace, Paramount, 1956 500
1956 Written on the Wind (1956) 1000
1957 Det sjunde inseglet (1957) 250
1957 Le notti di Cabiria (1957) 250
1957 Mother India (1957) 1000
1957 Paths of Glory (1957) 1000 500 250
1957 Peyton Place nom
1957 Sayonara nom
1957 Smultronstället (1957) 250
1957 Sweet Smell of Success (1957) 1000
1957 Tall T, The, Columbia, 1957 500
1957 The Cranes are Flying (1957) 1000
1957 The Incredible Shrinking Man (1957) 1000 500
1957 The Night of Cabiria (1957) Le notti di Cabiria 1000
1957 The Seventh Seal (1957) 1000
1957 The Unvanquished (1957) 1000
1957 Throne of Blood (1957) 1000
1957 Wild Strawberries (1957) 1000
1958 7th Voyage Of Sinbad, The, Columbia, 1958 500
1958 Ashes and Diamonds (1958) 1000
1958 Auntie Mame nom
1958 Cairo Station (1958) 1000
1958 Damn Yankees!, Warner Bros., 1958 500
1958 Gigi nom
1958 Horror of Dracula (1958) 1000
1958 I Want To Live!, United Artists, 1958 500
1958 Man of the West (1958) 1000
1958 My Uncle (1958) 1000
1958 Separate Tables nom
1958 The Music Room (1958) 1000
1958 Touch of Evil (1958) 1000 500 250
1959 Al Capone, Allied Artists, 1959 500
1959 Black Orpheus (1959) 1000
1959 Breathless (1959) 1000
1959 Compulsion, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1959 500
1959 Eyes without a Face (1959) 1000
1959 Floating Weeds (1959) 1000
1959 Hiroshima Mon Amour (1959) 1000
1959 Libel, Mgm, 1959 500
1959 Pickpocket (1959) 1000
1959 Ride Lonesome (1959) 1000
1959 Room at the Top nom
1959 Shadows (1959) 1000
1959 The 400 Blows (1959) 1000
1959 The Diary of Anne Frank nom
1959 The Hole (1959) 1000
1959 The Nun's Story nom
1959 The World of Apu (1959) 1000
1959 Young Philadelphians, The, Warner Bros., 1959 500 [/code]

where I am currently 5/11/10

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Alto Reed on a Tenor Sax
01-25-2010, 11:05 AM
Damn. I gotta get back on that.

Good luck Patience!

Patience
01-25-2010, 11:08 AM
Damn. I gotta get back on that.

Good luck Patience!

Thanks, great for my daughter and I who will drop a text whenever we knock something off

The 1000 list is a bit pretentious in their choices, a lot of foreign stuff

But Intolerance was a big one for me to inspire this all - need a few breaks on that one

Patience
02-01-2010, 10:25 AM
a lost weekend - watched 4 movies I wanted to see, but none on the list

were a few on TV, but bad timing for me - need to get a DVR

DeepPurple
02-01-2010, 10:33 AM
Any list with Borat on it cannot be taken seriously. I wanted to gouge my own eyes out for seeing that one.

Patience
02-01-2010, 10:44 AM
Any list with Borat on it cannot be taken seriously. I wanted to gouge my own eyes out for seeing that one.

have actually fallen asleep twice on it {before it was on the list} - really want to count it as watched

a lot on the 1000 list aren't necessarily good movies, but significant in some way to the author

daaaave
02-01-2010, 11:00 AM
What's the name on the 1,000 list? I was perusing a book with 1,000 important movies in a bookstore recently, and a huge number of the movies in the book were bad movies that just shouldn't be watched.

Patience
02-01-2010, 11:06 AM
What's the name on the 1,000 list? I was perusing a book with 1,000 important movies in a bookstore recently, and a huge number of the movies in the book were bad movies that just shouldn't be watched.

will have to find out, got that from my daughter

Patience
02-02-2010, 10:25 AM
What's the name on the 1,000 list? I was perusing a book with 1,000 important movies in a bookstore recently, and a huge number of the movies in the book were bad movies that just shouldn't be watched.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1001_Movies_You_Must_See_Before_You_Die

Patience
02-02-2010, 10:27 AM
so received an update from my daughter. The 1001 list has been updated

I don't remove from my list, so four more I need to see. Too bad, would have preferred to skip the mel Gibson ones

Out:
Meet the Parents (2000)
Lantana (2001)
The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
Rabbit-Proof Fence (2002)
3-Iron (2004)
The Passion of the Christ (2004)
Va, Vis et Deviens (2004)
Apocalypto (2006)
The Queen (2006)
Into the Wild (2007)

In:
Surfwise (2007)
The Bourne Ultimatum (2007)
Wall-E (2008)
The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
The Dark Knight (2008)
The Wrestler (2008)
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008)
Gomorra (2008)
The Class (2008)
Slumdog Millionaire (2008)

Patience
02-08-2010, 09:12 AM
So the other day my daughter sends me the monthly list of movies on TCM in February - all won some Oscar, though not all major.

I comment - did she realize every set of two consecutive movies have a common actor.

Yesterday she texted me that she realized the thing with the actor, but she just realized the first and last movies connected through Kevin Bacon

Patience
02-08-2010, 09:49 AM
I saw

Halloween - classic 1970's slasher film. It needs to be there based on the franchise it started. Not my normal genre. But a lot less bloody and more suspenseful than I expected. Very simple story and bit over the top. Not the best movie to watch by yourself until 1:00 am and then need to go into the basement to put water in the oil burner. Only the 1001 list

Rebecca - excellent Hitchcock. Starts a bit slow, but knowing it was a Hitchcock, that helps build up the aprehension. This was his first Hollywood film, so I doubt the same existed then. But once the twists and turns start, I would say it was his very best, as I was never able to get in front of the plot - and never with the mysterious stranger you didn't know existed, always with what was in front of you - and I am usually excellent at guessing the plot twists. This comes off four lists (1001, 250, 500 and Oscar winner)

Memento - I kept hearing how good this was, which is usually a kiss of death. So I did myself a favor and read nothing of what it was a bout. I really enjhoyed this. Imaginitive and fresh. Really creative movie making and I realized that it could only work being made backwards so that you never knew anything more of what was going on then he did Brilliant. Does it answer all your questions? No not really, but that shouldn't matter, it just fits. Too many familiar TV faces was the only thing that bothered me, but some of that was caused by the years since filming. Comes off my 1001, 250 and 500 lists.

Love knocking off the multiple list movies and spanned three decades as well (prett well split at that 1940, 1978, 2000). Though all fit suspense - that was just coindidence

Chronus
02-08-2010, 10:17 AM
I've always wanted to watch all of the oscar winners for Best Picture but I've never gotten around to doing it. I've seen a lot of them, maybe half, but I've always wanted to see the rest. Maybe I'll use this thread as my motivation to start working on that.

Patience
02-08-2010, 10:49 AM
I've always wanted to watch all of the oscar winners for Best Picture but I've never gotten around to doing it. I've seen a lot of them, maybe half, but I've always wanted to see the rest. Maybe I'll use this thread as my motivation to start working on that.

there are 465 nominees - some years had a loooks like they had 10 nominees in the past and are going to that going forward as well

I have seen 266 of the 465 nominees and 63 of the 80 winners (only 4 of 12 in the 20's and 30's)

of course most of that came w/o trying

Chronus
02-08-2010, 11:00 AM
there are 465 nominees - some years had a loooks like they had 10 nominees in the past and are going to that going forward as well

I have seen 266 of the 465 nominees and 63 of the 80 winners (only 4 of 12 in the 20's and 30's)

of course most of that came w/o trying

Watching all of the nominees, that sounds like a hefty goal. I doubt I've seen that many of the nominees. I'd be surprised if I've seen any of the nominees that didn't win from before the 80s.

Patience
02-10-2010, 08:54 AM
Friday Night Lights - only the 500 list of nominees for 10 top 10 genres. Which probably goes deeper on the selected genres then other lists. Having said that - this was a good movie. Not a great movie. Nothing very novel or memorable. Too black and white and not enough of the poverty and racial tension of the times.

There is also a 400 movie list for the 100 best. Unfortunately I have never seen that in a format I could spreadsheet, that should only be beyond the 500 in genres not in the ten listed.

notreallyme
02-10-2010, 09:03 AM
Holy !!!!!

That's a lot of movies to watch :eek:

Momento was great, I need to watch that one again.

Patience
02-10-2010, 09:05 AM
Holy !!!!!

That's a lot of movies to watch :eek:

Momento was great, I need to watch that one again.

snowed in today - that helps

Patience
02-10-2010, 11:39 AM
Who Framed Roger Rabbit - 1001 & 500. Can't believe it has been 22 years and for some reason I never saw this., haven't avoided - just never happened. Amazingly done for late 80's - truly innovative. 8 years before Space Jam. Enjoyable watch. Loved the cameos.

Now watching Hester Street. Not on any list, a very young Carol Kane Oscar nomination. and some day have to go through best actors and actresses. and fit in the time slot well for today. Will also come in handy for teaching Jewish Ed.

Chronus
02-10-2010, 11:56 AM
I put together a list of all of the winners and nominated movies for Best Picture and I have a lot of catching up to do. I've only seen 93 of the nominees and only 28 of the winners. The only year when I've seen all of the nominees was 2007. Mainly it's a lot of the older movies I haven't seen.

By decade of the nominees that I've seen:
2000-2009: 33
1990-1999: 24
1980-1989: 7
1970-1979: 11
1960-1969: 7
1950-1959: 4
1940-1949: 3
1930-1939: 3 (surprisingly all were made in 39)
1927-1929: 1

I like old movies I just haven't watched that many. It looks like I'm going to have to get on that.

Patience
02-10-2010, 03:48 PM
Heat: 1001, 500, 250 lists

damn good cops and robbers movie. Great cast, great acting, great action. Kinda scocked it didn't make the top ten Gangster movies though it is a great list. Possibly over any of the 3 from the early 30's or even Scarface or Bonnie and Clyde - but that is all debatable

[edit] Gangsters

Presented by Quentin Tarantino



Rank** Film** Year**
1 The Godfather 1972
2 Goodfellas 1990
3 The Godfather Part II 1974
4 White Heat 1949
5 Bonnie and Clyde 1967
6 Scarface: The Shame of the Nation 1932
7 Pulp Fiction 1994
8 The Public Enemy 1931
9 Little Caesar 1931
10 Scarface 1983

Egghead
02-10-2010, 04:34 PM
Momento was great, I need to watch that one again.

Probably one of my top 20. But I don't know if I'd watch it again. It's one of those "experience" movies that I don't believe would "work" a second time.

Very clever, though, and at the top of my list of recommendations for people who are looking for a movie that isn't the "same old same-old."

Patience
02-11-2010, 10:26 AM
Probably one of my top 20. But I don't know if I'd watch it again. It's one of those "experience" movies that I don't believe would "work" a second time.

Very clever, though, and at the top of my list of recommendations for people who are looking for a movie that isn't the "same old same-old."

I would see it again, just to fill in some things I am sure i missed and like Sixth sense to see if it really works. But not something i would watch numerous times

So almost had two more yesterday, started watching New Jack City - only on my 500 list - but realized I needed to do more shoveling and it was on a censored channel - so you only got every other word which was annoying, so I gave up on that after 15 minutes. The TCM was showing Pickup on South Street - which is on my 1001 list - never heard of it before. But cable went out - guess I should be happy I even had electricity

Chronus
02-11-2010, 10:36 AM
Probably one of my top 20. But I don't know if I'd watch it again. It's one of those "experience" movies that I don't believe would "work" a second time.

Very clever, though, and at the top of my list of recommendations for people who are looking for a movie that isn't the "same old same-old."

I think Memento is good to watch multiple times. Like Patience says you get a lot out of it that you didn't get the first time because you know the back story. Also I really enjoy watching this movie with people who haven't seen it before because I like to get people's reactions and hear their takes on it after watching it for the first time.

Patience
02-11-2010, 11:06 AM
one thing with all these lists is actually recogizing movies I have seen. In the last few days I removed 3 and added 1 that I messed up on.

Patience
02-26-2010, 11:20 AM
Cavalcade - 1933 Best Picture. So up to 50% on my 30's Oscar winners. This was quite dated and stagy (adapted from a Noel Coward play) It covered a family's life from 1899 NYE to 1933. Mostly from a English Historical perspective. Never really grabbed me or spent enough time to really get committed to a character. The most ironic twist, is it ends talking of peace, though in real life Hitler was just coming to power. Definitely other movies from that year I like better {Fugitive From A Chain Gang} - but hard to judge almost 80 years later.

Added 7 more movies we had in the house that interested me

From Hell {just watched}
Drums along the Mohawk
Fly Away Home
Mighty Joe Young {remake}
Marie Antoinette
Watchman
The Thin Red Line

Patience
02-26-2010, 02:08 PM
Ran - 1001 and IMDB 250. Visually a beautiful film, epic, Shakespearian tradegy to the utmost.

Woodstock - 1001. 4 hrs with commercials, but moves. Love the music and the background stuff.


I finished typing up the list of 400 movies used to nominate the AFI top 100 and incorporated it. So 24 new movies not on other lists, plus another 7, that I shouldn't have checked off previously. So list has regrown to 1019. with the seven in the prior post

Of the 400 I had seen 280

Patience
02-27-2010, 01:49 AM
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie - strange & funny on the edge of reality. Coincidently the same producer as Ran. 1001 list only

violaactuary
02-27-2010, 11:47 AM
Very cool. I applaud your efforts.

My husband and I will start doing something like this every few years, different rules, same game. Inspires me to start it up again.

eta: Also, I think it's cool that it's something you are doing with your daughter long-distance.

Patience
02-28-2010, 08:21 PM
Reader - nominee only. I liked this, but felt I could haved liked it more. There was a depth missing, that I felt might be better covered in the book. Excluding this year have seen all but five on the nominated films since 2000

So added the 2009 Oscar nominees, 6 more movies - moving backward lately. Ten nominees make this tougher, but easiest to find and see

Viola: unfortunately wife is not into movies on TV, so occassionally she'll join me, but mostly when she is out.

Patience
03-06-2010, 10:51 PM
A Serious Man (2009 Nominee) Strange quirky movie, works better if look at it with eye to the biblibal references

Hawgdriver
03-07-2010, 02:35 AM
Have you put together a top XXX list of your own? I'd be curious.

Patience
03-07-2010, 08:56 AM
Have you put together a top XXX list of your own? I'd be curious.

actually no, I find that very difficult. Once I see all the top ten by genre, I may try.

It is movies like Citizen Kane that make it very hard, not sure I would put it in my top 10, which would probalby be more based on enjoyment than movie making ability

so would be hard to compare to the AFI. How do you include movies that you can acknowledge aren't great, but are very good and you just love and can always watch, even from the middle - for me Princess Bride and Silverado.

The genre method might work the best

Patience
03-07-2010, 09:33 AM
Being John Malkovich (1001, 500) Weird, yet enjoyable. Very watchable.

Requiem for a Dream (1001, 250) Weird, intriguing and ultimately depressing

my last 3 movies have been really weird shit, all very good, all quite original, all quite different. Previous weekends and snowdays had a lot my decadeore of a mix, especially by decade

Patience
03-09-2010, 10:01 AM
so tonight wife (Temple event) and Daughter (SAT class) will be out late. Anyone know any good movies on cable tonight? preferable 7:00 - 9:00 times slot

tgadd
03-09-2010, 10:18 AM
Requiem for a Dream (1001, 250) Weird, intriguing and ultimately depressing


That's such a crazy movie.

Patience
03-09-2010, 10:49 AM
That's such a crazy movie.

try watching it after seeing Being John Malkovich and A Serious Man

my brain is all in knots

Need something very straight forward this evening. Found a site to look up what is on and seems like a complete miss on cable.

If I get home early enough - The Hurricane (500), otherwise Finding Nemo (1001, 10top10, IMDB 250)

Patience
03-09-2010, 03:45 PM
just cleaned up my list and took off 7 movies - 1 straight up duplicate and 6 where I had the title in both english and a foreign language.

currently at 1007

I do want to add best actor and actress movies, but will wait. Want to get under 1000 before I build up again
also, trouble finding a clean list I could easily cut and paste

Patience
03-09-2010, 04:22 PM
new title, just because I wanted to - old one too vague

Wendy Crewson
03-09-2010, 04:33 PM
P -- I enjoy movies as a hobby. I often refer to the AFI Top 100 list, and its revisions (if any). Your list of 1000 seems large. I also spend time with certain writers / directors (Allen, Kubrick, Mamet, Altman, etc).

If you haven't already, David Mamet might interest you. Of course, I also see a lot of movies during the Oscar season. I do try to also view the nominated actors and actresses, as well as the writers.

"Being John Malkovich" that was Kaufmann, right? That's a good one. Now you have to see "Adaptation", also by Kaufmann. Hee.

Patience
03-09-2010, 04:47 PM
P -- I enjoy movies as a hobby. I often refer to the AFI Top 100 list, and its revisions (if any). Your list of 1000 seems large. I also spend time with certain writers / directors (Allen, Kubrick, Mamet, Altman, etc).

If you haven't already, David Mamet might interest you. Of course, I also see a lot of movies during the Oscar season. I do try to also view the nominated actors and actresses, as well as the writers.

"Being John Malkovich" that was Kaufmann, right? That's a good one. Now you have to see "Adaptation", also by Kaufmann. Hee.

Mamet - seen The Verdict, Untouchables, Glengarry Glen Ross

House of Games on the list

Yes for Kaufmann
seen Adaptation
also seen Human Nature, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind and Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind

will definitely get winning actors and actresses, may go to nominated one day, but list is so big. Can't see doing writers, there are so many multiples on some many works. That would be too confusing.

The Drunken Actuary
03-09-2010, 04:47 PM
a lot on the 1000 list aren't necessarily good movies, but significant in some way to the author

Which begs the question - why are they significant to you? Why are they worth your time and effort? It's just some dude's opinions. And you know what opinions are like....everybody has one.

Patience
03-09-2010, 05:06 PM
Which begs the question - why are they significant to you? Why are they worth your time and effort? It's just some dude's opinions. And you know what opinions are like....everybody has one.

it is a concensus, which gives it more wait - and hey have to start somewhere. I think I linked the source creation.

The 500 nominated for the genres, the 400 nominated for the AFI top 100, the IMDB top 250 and the best picture nominees I care about more. The 1001 brings in a lot of stuf that might be significant, but not as highly rated and a lot of foreign films. So it make a good supplement

Now I can't have an opinion until I actually watch the movies

still have 440 movies on lists other than the 1001 list

The Drunken Actuary
03-09-2010, 05:09 PM
it is a concensus, which gives it more wait - and hey have to start somewhere. I think I linked the source creation.

The 500 nominated for the genres, the 400 nominated for the AFI top 100, the IMDB top 250 and the best picture nominees I care about more. The 1001 brings in a lot of stuf that might be significant, but not as highly rated and a lot of foreign films. So it make a good supplement

Now I can't have an opinion until I actually watch the movies

still have 440 movies on lists other than the 1001 list
Any list that has Meet the Parents as a MUST SEE MOVIE OF ALL TIME i take with a big grain of salt. Where did that expression come from anyway?

The Drunken Actuary
03-09-2010, 05:11 PM
Thanks, teh internets!

Etymology: based on the idea that food tastes better and is easier to swallow if you add a little salt

Patience
03-09-2010, 05:14 PM
I find any movie widely quoted has some merit to be watched

Did you listen to Mike & Mike this morning, they had a Meet The Parents sound drop

and I liked the movie

The Drunken Actuary
03-09-2010, 05:15 PM
I find any movie widely quoted has some merit to be watched

Did you listen to Mike & Mike this morning, they had a Meet The Parents sound drop

and I liked the movie

It's not bad, I wouldn't call it a must see.

I did listen to them and I dead hear a sound bite that I didn't recognize. What was it?

Patience
03-09-2010, 09:11 PM
It's not bad, I wouldn't call it a must see.

I did listen to them and I dead hear a sound bite that I didn't recognize. What was it?

they were doing News of The Weird about a woman who was arrested for drunk & disorderly - when changing into the prison garb shot the female guard watching her (with her breast milk)

first clip was from The Hangover (haven't seen it yet) - the other was MTP - you can milk anything with nipples

Patience
03-09-2010, 11:01 PM
Finding Nemo (1001, 10top10, 250) -- really interesting animation and a story that keeps you interested. But really created a lot of anxiety in me. The lost kid thing most likely and the frustration from Dory more than the obstacles. Good animation, listed as 10th best - - surprisingly not in the AFI top 400 though.

4 more on the 10 top 10 genre
and that makes 200 of the IMDB 250 - and when that's finished I will update for changes

The Drunken Actuary
03-09-2010, 11:15 PM
Finding Nemo (1001, 10top10, 250) -- really interesting animation and a story that keeps you interested. But really created a lot of anxiety in me. The lost kid thing most likely and the frustration from Dory more than the obstacles. Good animation, listed as 10th best - - surprisingly not in the AFI top 400 though.

4 more on the 10 top 10 genre
and that makes 200 of the IMDB 250 - and when that's finished I will update for changes

It was a kids movie. You knew it would have a happy ending.

Patience
03-13-2010, 03:00 PM
Drums Along The Mohawk - one of my extra movies - $1.00 at a garage sale, early Henry Fonda (between Young Mr Lincoln and Grapes of Wrath), Claudette Colbert, John Ford. Solid revolutionary historical piece, nothing too special, well acted - short might have been better more as an epic. Beautiful color for 1939 and realized in reading up, that not a lot of good revolutionary era films. From that perspective this and the musical 1776 might be the top of the list

Will Penny (500) Good solid Western. Heston as an aging cowboy. A very nasty Donald Plesence, the usually nasty Bruce Dern (especially in westerns), Joan Hackett who makes me keep thinking of Support Your Local Sheriff, Slim Pickens who made me keep thinking of Blazing Saddles, Ben Johnson who just makes it a western and Lee Majors in his first movie (during his Big Valley run) I like this better than some of the westerns that made the top ten

one of those days I am getting in the variety by subject and decade of the film

yoyo
03-13-2010, 10:21 PM
Too bad, would have preferred to skip the mel Gibson ones

why?

Patience
03-14-2010, 12:09 AM
why?

no interest in Apocolypto or Passion of Christ to begin with and as a Jewish person he isn't someone I really want to support


Crimes and Misdemeanors (1001) I am not a huge Woody Allen fan, this was a good film, made me think of Coen brothers. Found his relationship with his niece disturbing considering his real life even though nothing was implied.

covered movies from 39, 69 and 89 set in the 1780s, 1880s and 1980s

Currently watching Gods and Monsters which I am surprised isn't on any of my lists - but made in 1998 and set in the 1960s or so, Might count as British keeping it off the US lists

yoyo
03-14-2010, 09:14 AM
no interest in Apocolypto or Passion of Christ to begin with and as a Jewish person he isn't someone I really want to support


as a sane patriot, sean penn isn't someone i want to support, but i'll watch some of his films. he's a pretty good actor, as is gibson. :shrug:

Patience
03-14-2010, 01:46 PM
as a sane patriot, sean penn isn't someone i want to support, but i'll watch some of his films. he's a pretty good actor, as is gibson. :shrug:

This isn't about politics, it is about hate talk. I have no problem watching John Wayne or Charlton Heston even though I didn't agree with their politics. I also would have no issue with Jane Fonda or Sean Penn.

My issue with Gibson is a different issue.


Saw Fly Away Home this morning - really very nice family film. Bought this years ago and for some reason never sat down and saw it. Kids saw it in the theature and had no desire to watch again. So 15 years later I finally saw it, no lists but watching everything in the house I have the slighest interest in. I really enjoyed it, choked me up a bit.

Jski
03-14-2010, 02:32 PM
I saw Gods and Monsters. I don't know why it isn't on any of the lists, but if I remember correctly, it was nominated for Oscars (maybe O'Toole, maybe the screenplay).

As someone mentioned above, your desire to see the films on a list of 1,000 is quite ambitious. I enjoy the Oscar nominated films and performances, but after a few months, I wonder where all of the time went.

Good for you, you must have lots of disposable time. I personally wouldn't be adhering to a list that had Finding Nemo on it, etc. That's just me, right now I have a higher value of time.

Incredible Hulctuary
03-14-2010, 04:05 PM
I personally wouldn't be adhering to a list that had Finding Nemo on it, etc.
And I have to doubt the value of a 1001 list that has none of Coming To America, Cool Runnings, Predator, Soylent Green, or Speed.

Patience
03-14-2010, 04:54 PM
I saw Gods and Monsters. I don't know why it isn't on any of the lists, but if I remember correctly, it was nominated for Oscars (maybe O'Toole, maybe the screenplay).

As someone mentioned above, your desire to see the films on a list of 1,000 is quite ambitious. I enjoy the Oscar nominated films and performances, but after a few months, I wonder where all of the time went.

Good for you, you must have lots of disposable time. I personally wouldn't be adhering to a list that had Finding Nemo on it, etc. That's just me, right now I have a higher value of time.

unfortunately I lost cable (virtually hurrcane conditions last night) with 30-45 minutes left. Won screenplay, but shockingly wasn't nominated for Best pic, which is rare. McKellen (not O'Toole & Redgrave also nominated)

As for Nemo, that was on a lot of lists. I watch a great deal after 11:00 pm on the weekends. Snowdays and virtual hurricanes help as well.

I know this will take years. As for time it is amazing what you can fit in when you want to (I am the president of the Long Island cluster of Reform temple Men's Clubs, president of a bowling league and past president of my temple's men's club (current chaplain), I am also working on a large Monte Carlo night fundraiser (doing all the advertising), was in FL last month and cruising next week, despite the storm yesterday I went to Torah study, Ushered Saturday services, Bowled, chauvered my daughter to her activity, ate dinner with my kids, went out for dessert with friends and watched 3 1/2 movies - I am also reading 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea). Time is what you make it.

Thin Red Line (1001, best pic nom) shocked not on the 400 list. Amazing cast, excellent war movie, very introspective to the soldiers feelings. I liked this a lot.

yoyo
03-22-2010, 09:00 AM
Patience, I saw A Perfect World this weekend. Stars Costner and Eastwood, directed by Eastwood (1993). Good flic, list-worthy.

Patience
03-22-2010, 11:03 AM
Patience, I saw A Perfect World this weekend. Stars Costner and Eastwood, directed by Eastwood (1993). Good flic, list-worthy.

I've seen it. Costner is usually good when he plays an inderstated character.

The Blind Side (2009 nominee) - very good movie and not just a sports movie. Well acted and sentimental without being too much over the top. Bullock does a very good job. I haven't seen her in much that wasn't action or comedy and the difference of her in this role from her prior made the acting that much better to appreciate. This may not have been nominated withotu the expansion to 10, but a worthwhile watch. I am bothered that Oher was upset at how he was portrayed as dumb. I feel it was the opposite - he wasn't properly educated and he never learned how to learn or study, but I don't feel they ever tried to portray him as dumb.

Patience
03-27-2010, 12:10 AM
Room With a View (1001, Best Pic Nom) Excellent period piece. Beautifully filmed and quite witty, which you can miss if not paying attention. An excellent and very young Helena Bonham Carter, a very young and hardly recognizable Daniel Day Lewis and the always excellent Maggie Smith, Judy Dench and Denholm Elliott

I will also be able to see the end of Gods and Monsters, which the cable knocked off in the middle of.

Patience
03-28-2010, 02:38 AM
Letter From An Unknown Woman (1001) Late 1900's romance and obsession. 1st time on AFC so good I caught it, based on comment it was their most requested film and the 8.0 IMDB rating it seems to be more popular with most than with me. ok watch, a bit slow and just didn't pay off for me

Bugsy (500, nom) I liked this movie, I really did - but shocked by the number of Oscar nominations - best pic, actor, actress and 2 supporting. I felt the acting was a bit over the top = Beatty was borderline comic, which dulled the transition when he goes nuts -- it was a personality which could have been done in a stunning & shocking manner.

Patience
03-28-2010, 06:34 PM
Decision before Dawn (1951 nom) Good solid war movie, that generally feels like nothing special, but I found it very interesting in its simpathetic view of the general German population. Also a interesting look at traitors and various motives and how they are viewed. Not a film I was familiar with, but worth it for the perspective.

The Snake Pit (1001, 1948 Nom) Surprised not on the 400 list as well. Hugely serious topic for the 40's (aside from war). Touted for bringing so much attention to the mental institutions and amazingly this was about an actually mentally ill woman in what was basically a good hospital. It boggles the mind how bad it could have been. The acting was good, when it would have been so easy to go over the top. Some moments exceeded realism, but the rest was good enough to accept that.

Patience
04-02-2010, 09:32 PM
Cars (500) I have a really bad cold, so it was nice to have something light and easy. The thing with the 500 list is it can go to the 50th best movie in a genre, however I really liked this movie. I thought the animiation was fantastic and I had a few chuckles, plus a lot of well known voices and cameos. Liked it better than Nemo.

Patience
04-03-2010, 12:04 PM
The Hurricane (500) Not sure if this is a court drama or a sports movie, possibly both. Though a bit short on both measures. As a biography it comes up quite a bit short as well, really need to know it is taken all from Carter's perspective. Having said all that I really liked this movie. The whole conspiracy aspect seems a bit much and not sure if I can believe it as true. Denzel as always was solid and was nominated.

Now watching Coraline which wasn't on any of my lists, but will comment in the 2009 movie thread

Patience
04-04-2010, 11:18 AM
The Outlaw Josie Wales (500) one of the later westerns for Eastwood, though one of the best known American made until Unforgiven. A good solid movie, though really didn't cover very well how the farmer became such a feared man. Now watching Little Big Man for back to back Chief Dan George.

All That Heaven Allows (1001) A bit soapy for my taste, but had some very interesting aspects. Oldere woman dating younger man of a lower class

Patience
04-04-2010, 06:25 PM
Star Trek (IMDB 250) - I really enjoyed this, probably even better on the big screen. McCoy and Scotty were there more for comic relief and impersonating their predecessor. But the story worked and seemed to hold to the original series. Though not sure about the relationship between Uhuru and Spock - maybe for the sequel I think they did a good job on look a likes - the guy who play McCoy could as easily played Riker. Looks like a sequel for 2012.

Ginormous76
04-05-2010, 09:22 AM
How many left?

Patience
04-05-2010, 10:23 AM
How many left?

995 which includes three I will watch just because they are in the house. and Crazy Heart because I want to, though on no lists yet. Would watch Julie & Julia is opportunity arises as well. Will get NetFlix when finish all in house movies, though usually something on cable so far.

My daughter told me that on one of her websites there is someone who has watched all but 2 of the 1001 movies, and for those they just can't find them (she wasn't sure which ones). So I may never actually finish.

She also is on a site where people count the movies they watch each year and some are over 200 watching at least 2 a day. More compulsive then I want to be.

I did knock off one, because I had it under two different names. Though daughter upset I had her add one. She thought she had see the 1902 film From the Earth to the Moon, but we had only seen the animated trailer, she though that was the whole thing

Could have fit in one more this weekend, but not feeling well and just couldn't handle subtitles

Patience
04-07-2010, 10:29 AM
Camille (1936 version, 400, 1001) - I am not big on all the old romances. In general this was very well done and in some ways quite funny (intentionally) - though not a comedy. I do not believe I have seen Garbo before (really quite beautiful). and to its benefit it was not nearly as soapy as it could have been given the premise - quite well acted, Garbo was nominated. But I just never felt the emotional attachment to the characters I needed to care and not only knowing how it would end, it was well hinted at through out. So I don't think I felt the payoff the viewers at the time felt.

Patience
04-09-2010, 05:00 PM
Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid (1001) More of an intersting film in many ways then a good one. as an American made film AFI obviously didn't think was one of the 50 best westerns. This is a Peckinpah western, but for all the reputation he actually hasn't done that many, so not the Wild Bunch, but worth it. A bit talky between all the slow mo violence and bare boobs. Plus Bob Dylan as an actor and musician. and Kris Kristofferson as Billy the Kid - something about musicians and westerns. All the more interesting if you have ever seen John Wayne's Chisum. Not sure on the historical accuracy, but there is some history.

Patience
04-09-2010, 06:21 PM
Gosford Park (nom, 500) Highly nominated, 2 actresses, director. Well acted and directed film. Actually very interesting look at the inner workings of an estate with a lot of visitors. Robert Altman does a great job, very innovative, with some of his standard novel touches. Surprised not on the 400 list. Half way through starts taking some interesting twists, with a well done conclusion to the mystery. Quite funny, though subtely so, My only complaint was the English accents were difficult to understand much of the time.

bdschobel
04-09-2010, 07:18 PM
Any list with Borat on it cannot be taken seriously. I wanted to gouge my own eyes out for seeing that one.I agree. Highly overrated.

Bruce

Patience
04-09-2010, 10:58 PM
I agree. Highly overrated.

Bruce

Borat was removed from the update. Unfortunately once it is on the list it is on forever in my method. I thried to watch it a couple of times and fell asleep, but between that and clips I consider it watched

banshun
04-10-2010, 09:28 AM
I just saw your thread now. Have fun! I was going to ask whether you were skipping all of the foreign-language movies but I see that you watched The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (haven't seen it myself). I'll keep tabs on the thread. Sorry to hear that you didn't like Letter from an Unknown Woman more. I never know whether to see the movie as being more about a heartless womanizer or a jilted stalker.

banshun
04-10-2010, 10:26 AM
You can track your progress very easily at
www.icheckmovies.com

They have all of these lists organized for you to check your way through & they keep them updated for any new revisions.

Patience
04-10-2010, 12:11 PM
You can track your progress very easily at
www.icheckmovies.com

They have all of these lists organized for you to check your way through & they keep them updated for any new revisions.

My daughter uses listology - I like Excel. Math nerd in me. I do want the foreign language, which is the best reason for the 1001 list as they will be ignored by AFI. Also, for things like IMDB I don't want to update until I finish the current - 49 to go

Paths of Glory (1001, 500, 400, 250) Great movie. Might be my all time favorite Kubrick. Love the internal look at war. The conversation, the camera angles, the behind the scenes manipulation, Shocked, totally, shocked this was nominated for absolutely no Oscars. I can't conceive how that is possible. Top 50 on my IMDB list. Loved this. and one of 8 movies left on four of my six lists (all on the 100 top are watched). No idea how many lists the watched ones might be on. I can accept it not being in the 10 top 10 as it would be a courtroom drama and that was the weakest aspect of the movie

banshun
04-10-2010, 12:45 PM
I love the goal they have of 'taking the anthill!'
It's a great movie. That ending really twists the emotions around.

Patience
04-10-2010, 02:02 PM
I love the goal they have of 'taking the anthill!'
It's a great movie. That ending really twists the emotions around.

I still can't comprehend how nothing about it was worthy of nomination

Loved the scene at the beginning where the generals were talking and Adolph Menjou was convincing the other to take the attack - they were literally walking in circles

banshun
04-10-2010, 03:12 PM
It was a smaller production and probably didn't have the studio advertising muscle behind it to get the Oscar nominations. It was nominated for best film in the British version of the Oscars (BAFTA) but lost to Bridge on the River Kwai.

I've come to realize that the Oscars are a very poor indicator of movie quality. They usually aren't awarded to the best and often the best aren't even nominated.

Patience
04-10-2010, 05:39 PM
It was a smaller production and probably didn't have the studio advertising muscle behind it to get the Oscar nominations. It was nominated for best film in the British version of the Oscars (BAFTA) but lost to Bridge on the River Kwai.

I've come to realize that the Oscars are a very poor indicator of movie quality. They usually aren't awarded to the best and often the best aren't even nominated.

Kwai is one of my all time favorites too, regardless of genre.

Patience
04-13-2010, 10:47 PM
Judgement at Nurenberg (10top10, 400, nom, 250) Shockingly not on the 1001 list, they don't seem strong on war movies. I liked this a lot, really wanted to love it though. But #10 of Courtroom dramas is about right. Great cast Spencer Tracy, Maximillen Schell, Burt Lancaster, Montogery Clift, Judy Garland, Marlene Deitrich, Richard Widmark. Some strange casting - Odd casting for Clift, Garland and Widmark - but it works. Schell and the screenplay won Oscars, 11 nominations, 4 acting plus best picture. Also so many actors I think of instantly from other courtroom movies Tracy-Inherit the wind; Schell - Man In The Glass Booth; Dietrich- Witness for the prosecution; Ed Binns-12 Angry Men; Clift-A Place In The Sun

Schell won best actor as the fifth billing

Patience
04-19-2010, 09:48 AM
So I have decided to start taping movies (yes I said tape) as I have gone through most of what I have in the house. That is how I got JaN. I know I need to get a DVR.

Also Ship of Fools (1965 Nom), Pygmallion (1938 nom) and SteamBoat Bill Jr (1001).

I tried to tape Contact (500) - now funny thing is I read half of Contact, but never finished because I left it in a hotel room and never bother to replace it, so when I got home at 1:00 am, and the tape that was supposed to run until 1:30 was popped out of the machine it just seemed fitting. I am afraid something terrible will happen if I ever finish this story. {Contact, not my current rambling}

My VCR doesn't have a setting for EP, only SP, SLP and auto, so when i set auto, and a 6 hour start to finish - it seems to handle it. What I think happened is I taped Pygmallion, it didn't set it as a 6hr tape, but as a 4 hr tape, so when I tried to get Contact, there was no way to go beyond 4 hrs. Does this make sense?

So last night i taped SteamBoat Bill Jr - a 1928 Buster Keaton. Now I went against my rules, since it was opposite Bourne Ultimatum on both the IMDB 250 and the 1001 list and I will usually go after those on multiple lists first and especially the 1001 by itself last (or next to last the 500 is somewhat lower) - but hell, I am assuming Bourne Ultimatum will be a lot easier to find again.

But, back to the point, so I filmed SBjr and let the tape go for 6 hours just to establish the length, not I am hoping if I tape over what came after I can get 6 hrs on the tape.

btw, 7-11 is pretty good for getting pretty current releases at either $10 or $7

Patience
04-24-2010, 05:58 PM
Steamboat Bill Jr (1001) for just being on the 1001 list, this was an interesting film. 1928, this was the end of the silent era, Buster Keaton made maybe only two more and this was his last as an independent. The hurrican escene is fascinating and most likely very cutting edge. There is a famous scene where a wall falls and keaton is saved by being where the window lands. This was done w/o special effects, if it missed it would have been severe. I haven't seen many Keaton silents, though he acted another 40 years and became a familiar face in many esemble comedies. His stories seem simpler than Chaplin, more tumbling, but a little less athletic.

Broken Arrow (500) This is the 1950 western, not the Travolta movie. Biography on the man who negotiates peace with Cochise. Doing a little history, this seemed to be a fairly accurate story. Amazing for its sympathy to the portrayal of the Indians, though also later criticized for use of Jeff Chandler (oscar nominee) and other white actors as indians. I am a big Jim Stewart fan, not his best, but a very solid western especially for its historical significance. Kinda creepy with the 40 yo Stewart marrying (and kissing) a 16 yo. At least the actress was, but it seems she was fictional, though pivotal

Sense and Sensibility (400, nom) A nice movie, very well acted, but it just never dragged me in. Very good cast and highly nominated, maybe it just wasn't my type of film. I just bought a Jane Austin collection, so maybe will hit me differently after reading.

Good mix of eras, both by the filming as well as the setting. Plus took movies of 4 lists with the 3 films w/o an overlap. Knocked off another as well, had both an English and foreign title for one film.

IMP
04-24-2010, 06:52 PM
I think Memento is good to watch multiple times. Like Patience says you get a lot out of it that you didn't get the first time because you know the back story. Also I really enjoy watching this movie with people who haven't seen it before because I like to get people's reactions and hear their takes on it after watching it for the first time.same with the usual suspects imo
and yes, that is a giraffeload of movies to be watching!

IMP
04-24-2010, 07:02 PM
no interest in Apocolypto or Passion of Christ to begin with and as a Jewish person he isn't someone I really want to support
i understand where you are coming from. and i didn't have too much interest either in apocolypto. but i have to say, i was very pleasantly surprised by this movie. i was drawn in and i thought it was a very well done, very captivating movie that i hope you will enjoy.

i have yet to see passion. i am sure i eventually will one of these days. i'm a fan of jim caviezel. although i hear the movie is quite intense and graphic.

Patience
04-24-2010, 07:28 PM
ialthough i hear the movie is quite intense and graphic.

I thought apocolypto was supposed to be as well

IMP
04-24-2010, 10:29 PM
I thought apocolypto was supposed to be as wellyeah, i guess there was violence and some graphic scenes. it's been a few years since i've seen it...i just remember that i really liked it a lot, surprisingly.

Patience
04-24-2010, 10:39 PM
(500) Days of Summer (250 - well it was at the time) I am not spoiling in this thread so read carefully. I liked this, cute and quirky. A interesting mix of reality, fantasy and shifting time lines. I liked the leads a lot. I found it very cool that when he came out of the bathroom before they first had sex the shot was very much from The Graduate. I like knowing Gary Gray Gubler was shot and spent many episodes of Criminal Minds on crutches because he hurt himself dancing with the cast of 500 DoS. I like the post sex fantasy never morphed into reality - it just was. I liked the narration. All in all this worked - I liked it, didn't love it but I liked it. It was very original and creative, but I felt like I have seen it all before.


so another era of film making, and plot, plus another list taken from

yoyo
04-25-2010, 08:57 AM
Patience, is Days of Wine and Roses on your list?

Patience
04-25-2010, 12:36 PM
Patience, is Days of Wine and Roses on your list? yes - something I always wanted to see before the list anyway. Love Jack Lemmon


Le notti di Cabiria (Nights of Cabiria) (1001, 250) Felinini film. I liked this alot, enjoyed the characters, but definitely not uplifting - but you need to follow it doesn't hit you in the face with what should be rather depressing.

Rabbit Proof Fence (1001, though removed from update) Also not uplifting, especially in the voice over and printed conclusion. This treatment that parallels stuff seen in pre-Nazi Germany (around the same time) and the American West reservations. The fact that it went on until 1970 amazes me. Even Germany would take "half breeds" to live with Christian families, not to create a capitive working class

Going to a Broadway show now, hopefully more uplifting then the movies. Debating whether to check or be surprised. Though also dealing with wife losing the tickets.

Smurf
04-25-2010, 03:10 PM
Going to a Broadway show now, hopefully more uplifting then the movies. Debating whether to check or be surprised. Though also dealing with wife losing the tickets.

What Broadway Show did you watch?

Patience
04-25-2010, 09:02 PM
What Broadway Show did you watch?

Fela. Really excellent. So much of what I have seen is so much of the same old, this was very new and original to me. and an interesting background story. One part very depresing, but mostly felt goo about things. Plus enough hot and sweaty flesh for any preference. Got to meet and talk to the lead at dinner.

banshun
04-26-2010, 09:23 AM
Nights of Cabiria really gained a lot for me in that final moment with Maria's look into the camera. Enjoy the ride, and if misfortune comes your way, leave it behind, and keep moving.

yoyo
04-26-2010, 09:34 AM
yes - something I always wanted to see before the list anyway. Love Jack Lemmon.
Have you seen it yet? Great flick, very accurate portrayal of booze hounds, at least of a certain type of alkie.

Patience
04-26-2010, 03:42 PM
Have you seen it yet? Great flick, very accurate portrayal of booze hounds, at least of a certain type of alkie.

no, know what it is about, just never had the opportunity

Patience
04-26-2010, 03:45 PM
Nights of Cabiria really gained a lot for me in that final moment with Maria's look into the camera. Enjoy the ride, and if misfortune comes your way, leave it behind, and keep moving.

I know, but it was so rock bottom, she loved her independence and that she had a house - and lost it all. I wanted to be depressed, but you are right her expression wouldn't allow it. and you knew what was going to happen, but you didn't want to believe it. You wanted them to try and get you to think the worst and make it nothing more than looking at a sunset

ok some spoilers as this would totally destroy the movie

banshun
04-26-2010, 04:10 PM
I think you're right. Few characters are booted around in movies as bad as Maria in this one. I think that last look is a sign of the resilience of the human spirit. Without it the movie would have been unrelentingly down but there's a bit of hope there in that last look.

Patience
04-26-2010, 04:14 PM
I think you're right. Few characters are booted around in movies as bad as Maria in this one. I think that last look is a sign of the resilience of the human spirit. Without it the movie would have been unrelentingly down but there's a bit of hope there in that last look.

yeah - human spirit - great - but what the F happens next just start over from rock bottom? How many times?

banshun
04-26-2010, 08:22 PM
We all get taken from time to time. Maria won't fall for this trick again or many others, I suspect.

What's up next on your viewing schedule?

Patience
04-27-2010, 10:48 AM
We all get taken from time to time. Maria won't fall for this trick again or many others, I suspect.

What's up next on your viewing schedule?

Not sure, second time in the short span of the movie - and this time she lost everything- but her faith?

I don't have a schedule. Mostly if I have time to watch I check the cable guide for what fits my timeslot. Otherwise I have a few movies on DVD and Tape that I will pop in if nothing on and depending on timeslot. Like Ship of Fools if around 2 hours or Reds if up to 4 hours to watch (I prefer not to stop and continue).

Watchmen and a few others i will see just because they are in the house (Marie Antoinette, Mighty Joe Young remake)

I like to squeeze one in Tuesday, as nothing I like on TV and wife works late. But I am taking a half day and driving down to see my son's school concert. If I have time, may buy a pay-per-view at the hotel, but will be a short window.

Patience
04-27-2010, 06:07 PM
btw, I should definitely add best foreign film as well. already decided I will add best actor and actress at some point when the list is dwindled down some.

The Hurt Locker (best pic) - very well made, very intense. Loved the documentary feel. Very solid war movie, that more than anything gave you a taste of the chaos going on and realize it is hard to not be damaged, physicaly or emotionally, whether you how it or not. How hard it is to deal with the mundane everyday stuff of normal life. You know no one is immune from dying, and never knows if or when it could happen.

This gives me 10 for 10 on best pictures this decade. 46 of the 55 nominees (5 still from '09). 70's is the only other decade I am 10 for 10. 9 for 10 in '80s and 90s.

Patience
05-02-2010, 08:47 AM
Sea Of Love (500) I have said before that anything on the 500 list could be the 50th best of its genre. This might be. The writing I thought was awful, the type of witty retorts where the lead is an obvious lob and they seem so pleased with the response. It had Al Pacino which is never bad. John Goodman who I love and Ellen Barkin who will never be called pretty, but is damn sexy.

A few things trivia says role made for Dustin Hoffman, if you read either's IMDB bio there are a lot of those in both directions. One scene at the end Pacino's expression was so uncannily Hoffman it was creepy.

Goodman and Pacino working together throughout the film is almost comical in terms of physical size.

6 years after Scarface, with only one movie in between. Not sure why the layoff or why come back now. Hard getting roles or picky

Ellen Barkin was at her height.

Also height for Goodman, 2nd year Roseanne, between Raising AZ & Arachniphobia. and he pretty much played himself. But at 37 weird they had a scene for his daughter's wedding.

and one line by Samuel L Jackson credited as "Black Guy" I didn't realize he started so late as he was already over 40.

Patience
05-02-2010, 12:32 PM
Mighty Joe Young (because it was in the house) ok, I loved the original as a kid. I remember watching it every year either Thanksgiving or Christmas time. I bought this for the kids because the remake intrigued me - and maybe for me because Chalize Theron is gorgeous. Way too Disneyfied. Too much of clueless administrators and evil people being way too evil out of context with any common sense.

Goodbye Mr Chips (400, nom 1939) Excellent film, in an excellent year of film. Gone With The Wind, Mr Smith Goes to Washington, Stagecoach, Of Mice and Men, Ninotchka, The Wizard of Oz, Wuthering Heights. Robert Donat won the Oscar for best actor of some classic roles and reknowned talents. I won't deny it was deserved, though possibly argunbly. Greer Garson was nominated and could be my favorite female character ever. Strong, intelligent, compassionate, ambitious - but w/o ever crossing a line of being too much of any of it - and quite beautiful. Looking at IMDB surprising how few movie roles they both had was surprising.

Helps to be up on your history as significant events (some maybe only known in England) are used to indicate the year.

Also, from the private train, the class structure, the dorms, dining rooms and hall ways it is hard not to think of Hogwarts

Patience
05-02-2010, 02:16 PM
Pygmilion (1938 nom) also nom best acted and actress. Excellent and charming movie - very well acted and enjoyable, BUT I have seen it all before - though this was first (well two european versions Shaw hated). None of that should be a reflection on the film which was very well done. I have read the play and seen My Fair Lady numerous times, on screen and stage. Somewhere there is a thread I gointo all the details of Audrey Hepburn / Julie Andrews and Marni Nixon as well as the West Side Story parellels. I save you from that now.

I was quite surprised how close MFL is in terms of dialogue, more than most musical versions of plays.

banshun
05-03-2010, 09:24 AM
I haven't seen Goodbye Mr. Chips yet! I need to get around to it. Started it twice and never finished.

Patience
05-03-2010, 09:44 AM
I haven't seen Goodbye Mr. Chips yet! I need to get around to it. Started it twice and never finished.

It worked very well for me, I actually wished it was a bit longer as they glossed over the passing years very quickly. It was also interesting that the time was marked by historical events - like the Queen dying and a King taking over or a flight across the English channel. I had no idea for some of it.

Very similar in some aspects to Cavalcade, but handled better. Though in both the exact same comments about WWI couldn't last for more than a few weeks. and both while optimistic ended before any knowledge of WWII

3rookie
05-03-2010, 10:27 AM
I haven't seen Goodbye Mr. Chips yet! I need to get around to it. Started it twice and never finished.It's solidly in my Top 100 list. I never saw the remake from the 1960's. Probably won't.

Patience
05-03-2010, 10:38 AM
It's solidly in my Top 100 list. I never saw the remake from the 1960's. Probably won't.

didn't know it existed and the write-up "He is a shy schoolmaster. She is a music hall star. They marry and immediately have 283 children...all boys!" sounds awful and a complete change from the original - and it seems is a musical version

3rookie
05-03-2010, 11:08 AM
didn't know it existed and the write-up "He is a shy schoolmaster. She is a music hall star. They marry and immediately have 283 children...all boys!" sounds awful and a complete change from the original - and it seems is a musical versionThis reminds me of

OH help me Dr Zaius!

Dr Zaius Dr Zaius
Dr Zaius Dr Zaius
Dr Zaius Dr Zaius
Dr Zaius Dr Zaius
Oh Dr Zaius

Patience
05-10-2010, 10:41 AM
Marie Antoinette (It was in the house) - ok so basically knocked off the last of this category. Still have Watchman, but somehow different since we still do the 2009 reviews. Anyway, this is movie geared to Teenage girls, and i ain't one. It was ok and anything to get kids interested in history is ok by me. and historically not too bad. But it filled the timeslot I had and didn't have to kick out my 17 yo or bore her to death. Kirsten Dunst & Jason Schwartzman just felt too modern for a period piece. I can appreciate that in movies like Moulen Rouge or A Knights Tale, but here it didn't seem to be on purpose and needed to go one way or the other more definitetively. Rip Torn and Molly Shannon don't help that feeling.

L’argent (1983) Money (1001) Iteresting film, from a Tolstoy short story. French with subtitles. Very "They Made Me Criminal" in story. Also very minimalized in many ways. As you may hear just the end of a conversation or end of a scene - or just the beginning where the play-out is obvious, so they skip that. But it kept me from getting a full sympathy or feel for the characters - which is what is neede in a story like this. Interesting camera angles and backgrounds, makes it also interesting, but sometimes feeling the dirtector is just trying too hard. At times I believe he is going for a documentary feeling

The Magnificent Ambersons (1001, 400, 1942 nom) This is a very Orson Welles film and in many ways I liked it better than Citzen Cane (this was one year later). As the story grabbed me more. Just noticed this is 60 minutes shorter than the original cut 88 min vs 148 - something odd for that much difference. He had an amazing use of light and dark and most characters were not particularly likeable or despisable, plus a magnicent use of the stairs in the mansion - which kept bringing to my mind an Escher drawing. This was a very interesting watch, though i never felt emotionally invested, and I believe that is what he intended.

With 70 nominated films in the 40's and 92 in the 30's there is still a lot for me to see - 2010's will also be a decade with a lot adding to the list.

Knocked off a film on 3 or more lists, so only 25 left of those.

banshun
05-10-2010, 10:55 AM
Haven't seen L'argent but will one of these days.

THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS is great, but I'm a Welles fanboy. The story of its hatchet job down to 88 minutes is legendary. Welles was in South America doing some work on a movie in support of the war effort and the studio took his movie and cut it together the way they wanted much to his outrage. The ending was the choice of the studio and most people criticize it but it's been so long since I've seen it I've forgotten the specifics. The 148-minute Welles version is a holy grail but will never turn up as the excised footage was destroyed. Still, what's left is often amazing.
The scene that most impresses me the most is the ballroom scene -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvp3gWi4JpA
Too bad the video quality is so poor.

Patience
05-10-2010, 11:13 AM
Haven't seen L'argent but will one of these days.

THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS is great, but I'm a Welles fanboy. The story of its hatchet job down to 88 minutes is legendary. Welles was in South America doing some work on a movie in support of the war effort and the studio took his movie and cut it together the way they wanted much to his outrage. The ending was the choice of the studio and most people criticize it but it's been so long since I've seen it I've forgotten the specifics. The 148-minute Welles version is a holy grail but will never turn up as the excised footage was destroyed. Still, what's left is often amazing.
The scene that most impresses me the most is the ballroom scene -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvp3gWi4JpA
Too bad the video quality is so poor.

in my opinion the ending was a little too contrived and full circle, but nothing to ruin the film. Loved the credits too. Each job was narrated by Welles, as he goes through 'sound mixer" and "film editer" he shows the actual machinery, maybe a pair of hands working it, plus introducing the major players with short clips, as well as himself with just a mic.

Patience
05-11-2010, 01:09 PM
1902 A Trip to the Moon (1902) 1001
1903 The Great Train Robbery (1903) 1001
1912 Richard III 400
1915 The Cheat 400
1915 Les Vampires (1915) 1001
1917 The Poor Little Rich Girl 400
1919 Broken Blossoms (1919) 1001
1919 The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1919) 1001
1920 Way Down East (1920) 1001
1920 Within Our Gates (1920) 1001 400
1921 Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse, The, Metro, 1921 500 400
1921 Orphans of the Storm (1921) 1001
1921 The Kid (1921) 400 250
1921 The Phantom Carriage (1921) 1001
1922 Dr. Mabuse, Parts 1 and 2 (1922) 1001
1922 Nanook of the North (1922) 1001
1922 Nosferatu, A Symphony of Terror (1922) 1001
1922 The Smiling Madame Beudet (1922) 1001
1923 Safety Last 400
1923 Foolish Wives (1923) 1001
1923 Haxan (1923) 1001
1923 Our Hospitality (1923) 1001
1923 Ten Commandments, The, Paramount, 1923 500
1923 The Wheel (1923) 1001
1924 Greed (1924) 1001 400
1924 Iron Horse, The, Fox, 1924 500
1924 Sherlock, Jr. (1924) 1001
1924 Strike (1924) 1001
1924 The Last Laugh (1924) 1001
1924 The Thief of Bagdad (1924) 1001 10top 400
1925 Freshman, The, Pathé, 1925 500
1925 Lost World, The, First National, 1925 500
1925 Seven Chances (1925) 1001
1925 The Battleship Potemkin (1925) 1001
1925 The Big Parade (1925) 1001 500 400
1925 Phantom of the Opera, The 1001 400
1925 Tumbleweeds, United Artists, 1925 500
1926 Ben-Hur, Mgm, 1926 500 400
1927 King Of Kings, The, Pathé, 1927 500
1927 Napoleon (1927) 1001
1927 October (1927) 1001
1927 The Kid Brother (1927) 1001
1927 The Unknown (1927) 1001
1927 Underworld, Paramount, 1927 500
1928 Seventh Heaven nom
1928 Storm over Asia (1928) 1001
1928 The Andalusian Dog (1928) 1001
1928 The Crowd (1928) 1001 400
1928 The Docks of New York (1928) 1001
1928 The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928) 1001
1928 The Racket nom
1928 Wind, The 400
1928 Wings 400 BestPic
1929 Alibi nom
1929 Blackmail (1929) 1001
1929 In Old Arizona nom
1929 Pandora’s Box (1929) 1001
1929 The Broadway Melody 400 BestPic
1929 The Hollywood Revue of 1929 nom
1929 The Man with the Movie Camera (1929) 1001
1929 The Patriot nom
1930 Disraeli nom
1930 Earth (1930) 1001
1930 Morocco 400
1930 The Age of Gold (1930) Âge d'or, L' 1001
1930 The Big House nom
1930 The Blue Angel (1930) 1001
1930 The Divorcee nom
1930 The Love Parade nom
1931 Cimarron 400 BestPic
1931 City Streets, Paramount, 1931 500
1931 East Lynne nom
1931 Freedom for Us (1931) 1001
1931 Skippy nom
1931 Tabu (1931) 1001
1931 The Bitch (1931) 1001
1931 The Front Page nom
1931 The Million (1931) 1001
1931 Trader Horn nom
1932 Arrowsmith nom
1932 Bad Girl nom
1932 Boudu Saved From Drowning (1932) 1001
1932 Five Star Final nom
1932 Freaks (1932) 1001 400
1932 Grand Hotel 400 BestPic
1932 Love Me Tonight (1932) 1001
1932 Me and My Gal (1932) 1001
1932 One Hour with You nom
1932 Shanghai Express (1932) 1001 nom
1932 Sign Of The Cross, The, Paramount, 1932 500
1932 The Champ nom
1932 The Smiling Lieutenant nom
1932 The Vampire (1932) 1001
1932 Trouble in Paradise (1932) 1001 500 400
1933 A Farewell to Arms nom
1933 Design For Living, Paramount, 1933 500
1933 Gold Diggers of 1933 (1933) 1001
1933 Lady for a Day nom
1933 Land Without Bread (1933) 1001
1933 Little Women nom
1933 Queen Christina (1933) 1001 500
1933 Smilin' Through nom
1933 Sons of the Desert (1933) 1001 400
1933 State Fair nom
1933 The Bitter Tea of General Yen (1933) 1001
1933 The Private Life of Henry VIII nom
1933 Zero for Conduct (1933) 1001
1934 Cleopatra nom
1934 Flirtation Walk nom
1934 Here Comes the Navy nom
1934 Imitation of Life 400 nom
1934 It’s A Gift (1934) 1001
1934 Judge Priest (1934) 1001
1934 L’Atalante (1934) 1001
1934 One Night of Love nom
1934 The Barretts of Wimpole Street nom
1934 The Black Cat (1934) 1001
1934 The Gay Divorcee nom
1934 The House of Rothschild nom
1934 Scarlet Empress, The 400
1934 The White Parade nom
1934 Triumph of the Will (1934) 1001
1934 Viva Villa nom
1935 ‘G' Men, Warner Bros., 1935 500
1935 A Midsummer Night's Dream nom
1935 Alice Adams nom
1935 Broadway Melody of 1936 nom
1935 David Copperfield 400 nom
1935 Les Misérables nom
1935 The Little Colonel 400
1935 Naughty Marietta nom
1935 Ruggles of Red Gap nom
1935 Top Hat 1001 400 nom
1935 The Lives of a Bengal Lancer nom
1936 A Day in the Country (1936) 1001
1936 Anthony Adverse nom
1936 Dodsworth (1936) 1001 400 nom
1936 Fury, Mgm, 1936 500 400
1936 Le roman d'un tricheur (1936) The Story of a Cheat 1001
1936 Libeled Lady nom
1936 Mr. Deeds Goes To Town 1001 500 400 nom
1936 Romeo and Juliet nom
1936 Sabotage (1936) 1001
1936 San Francisco nom
1936 The Great Ziegfeld 400 BestPic
1936 The Plainsman, Paramount, 1936 500
1936 The Story of Louis Pasteur nom
1936 Things to Come (1936) 1001
1936 Three Smart Girls nom
1937 Captains Courageous (1937) 1001 nom
1937 Grand Illusion (1937) 1001 nom
1937 In Old Chicago nom
1937 Lost Horizon, Columbia, 1937 500 400 nom
1937 Make Way for Tomorrow (1937) 1001
1937 Midnight Song (1937) 1001
1937 Nothing Sacred, United Artists, 1937 500
1937 One Hundred Men and a Girl nom
1937 Pepe Le Moko (1937) 1001
1937 Star is Born, A 400
1937 Stella Dallas (1937) 1001
1937 The Awful Truth (1937) 1001 500 400 nom
1937 The Good Earth nom
1937 The Life of Emile Zola (1937) 1001 400 BestPic
1938 Alexander's Ragtime Band nom
1938 Four Daughters nom
1938 Jezebel (1938) 1001 nom
1938 Olympia (1938) 1001
1938 Test Pilot nom
1938 The Baker’s Wife (1938) 1001
1938 The Citadel nom
1938 The Lady Vanishes (1938) 250
1938 You Can't Take It With You 400 BestPic
1939 Babes in Arms (1939) 1001 400
1939 Dark Victory nom
1939 Daybreak (1939) 1001
1939 Hound Of The Baskervilles, The, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1939 500
1939 Love Affair nom
1939 Ninotchka (1939) 1001 500 400 nom
1939 Only Angels have Wings (1939) 1001 400
1939 The Rules of the Game (1939) 1001
1939 The Story of the Late Chrysanthemums (1939) 1001
1939 Union Pacific, Paramount, 1939 500
1940 All This, and Heaven Too nom
1940 Brother Orchid, Warner Bros., 1940 500
1940 Dance, Girl, Dance (1940) 1001
1940 Foreign Correspondent nom
1940 Kitty Foyle nom
1940 Shop Around The Corner, The, Mgm, 1940 500
1940 The Great Dictator (1940) 250 nom
1940 The Letter nom
1940 The Long Voyage Home nom
1940 The Mortal Storm (1940) 1001
1941 Ball Of Fire, Rko, 1941 500
1941 Blossoms in the Dust nom
1941 Devil And Daniel Webster, The, Rko, 1941 500
1941 Hold Back the Dawn nom
1941 One Foot In Heaven nom
1941 Suspicion, Rko, 1941 500
1941 The Little Foxes 400 nom
1942 49th Parallel nom
1942 Cat People (1942) 1001 400
1942 I Married A Witch, United Artists, 1942 500
1942 Kings Row nom
1942 Mrs. Miniver 400 BestPic
1942 Now Voyager (1942) 1001 400
1942 Random Harvest nom
1942 The Palm Beach Story (1942) 1001 500
1942 The Pied Piper nom
1942 The Talk of the Town 500 nom
1942 To Be or Not to Be (1942) 1001 400
1942 Wake Island nom
1943 Battaan 400
1943 Cabin In The Sky 400
1943 Fires were Started (1943) 1001
1943 For Whom the Bell Tolls nom
1943 I Walked with a Zombie (1943) 1001
1943 In Which We Serve nom
1943 Madame Curie nom
1943 Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) 1001
1943 Ossessione (1943) 1001
1943 The Human Comedy nom
1943 The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943) 1001
1943 The Man in Grey (1943) 1001
1943 The More the Merrier nom
1943 The Seventh Victim (1943) 1001
1943 The Song of Bernadette nom
1943 Watch on the Rhine nom
1944 Arsenic and Old Lace (1944) 250
1944 Canterville Ghost, The, Mgm, 1944 500
1944 Gaslight, Mgm, 1944 500 nom
1944 Hail the Conquering Hero 400
1944 Henry V (1944) 1001 nom
1944 Ivan the Terrible, Parts One and Two (1944) 1001
1944 Meet Me in St. Louis (1944) 1001 400
1944 Miracle of Morgan's Creek, The 400
1944 Murder, My Sweet (1944) 1001
1944 Since You Went Away nom
1944 Thirty Seconds over Tokyo 400
1944 Wilson nom
1945 Detour (1945) 1001
1945 I Know Where I’m Going (1945) 1001
1945 Mildred Pierce (1945) 1001 nom
1945 Rome, Open City (1945) 1001
1945 Scarlet Street, Universal, 1945 500
1945 The Battle of San Pietro (1945) 1001
1945 The Children Paradise (1945) Enfants du paradis, Les 1001
1945 The Lost Weekend (1945) 1001 400 BestPic
1946 A Matter of Life and Death (1946) 1001
1946 Beauty and the Beast (1946) 1001
1946 Black Narcissus (1946) 1001
1946 Gilda (1946) 1001 400
1946 Great Expectations (1946) 1001 nom
1946 Paisan (1946) 1001
1946 The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946) 1001 500
1946 The Razor's Edge nom
1946 The Stranger (1946) 1001
1946 The Yearling 400 nom
1947 Crossfire nom
1947 Monsieur Verdoux (1947) 1001
1947 Odd Man Out (1947) 1001
1947 Out of the Past (1947) 1001 400
1947 The Bishop's Wife nom
1948 Force of Evil (1948) 1001 500 400
1948 Hamlet BestPic
1948 Louisiana Story (1948) 1001
1948 Mr. Peabody And The Mermaid, Universal, 1948 500
1948 Naked City, The, Universal, 1948 500
1948 Secret Beyond the Door (1948) 1001
1948 Spring in a Small Town (1948) 1001
1948 The Bicycle Thief (1948) Ladri di biciclette 1001 250
1948 The Lady from Shanghai (1948) 1001 500
1948 The Paleface (1948) 1001
1948 The Red Shoes (1948) 1001 nom
1949 A Letter to Three Wives 400 nom
1949 Battleground nom
1949 Gun Crazy (1949) 1001 400
1949 Intruder in the Dust 400
1949 Orpheus (1949) 1001
1949 The Heiress (1949) 1001 400 nom
1949 The Reckless Moment (1949) 1001
1949 Twelve O'Clock High 400 nom
1949 Whiskey Galore! (1949) 1001
1950 D.O.A., United Artists, 1950 500
1950 Destination Moon, Eagle-Lion, 1950 500
1950 In a Lonely Place (1950) 1001 500
1950 King Solomon's Mines nom
1950 Los Olvidados (1950) 1001
1950 Rashomon (1950) 1001 250
1950 The Asphalt Jungle (1950) 1001
1951 Angels In The Outfield, Mgm, 1951 500
1951 Diary of a Country Priest (1951) 1001
1951 Pandora and the Flying Dutchman (1951) 1001
1951 Quo Vadis?, Mgm, 1951 500 nom
1951 The Lavender Hill Mob (1951) 1001
1951 Thing From Another World, The, Rko, 1951 500
1952 Angel Face (1952) 1001
1952 Europa ‘51 (1952) 1001
1952 Forbidden Games (1952) 1001
1952 Ivanhoe nom
1952 Moulin Rouge nom
1952 The Bad and the Beautiful (1952) 1001
1952 The Big Sky (1952) 1001
1952 The Golden Coach (1952) 1001
1952 To Live (1952) Ikiru 1001
1952 Umberto D (1952) 1001
1953 Beast From 20,000 Fathoms, The, Warner Bros., 1953 500
1953 Beat the Devil (1953) 1001
1953 I Confess, Warner Bros., 1953 500
1953 It Came From Outer Space, Universal, 1953 500
1953 Julius Caesar, Mgm, 1953 500 nom
1953 Le salaire de la peur (1953) 250
1953 M. Hulot’s Holiday (1953) 1001
1953 Madame De... (1953) 1001
1953 Pickup on South Street (1953) 1001
1953 Robe, The, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1953 500 nom
1953 Tales of Ugetsu (1953) Ugetsu monogatari 1001
1953 The Band Wagon (1953) 1001 400
1953 The Big Heat (1953) 1001
1953 The Bigamist (1953) 1001
1953 The Naked Spur (1953) 1001
1953 Tokyo Story (1953) 1001
1953 Voyage in Italy (1953) 1001
1953 Wages of Fear (1953) 1001
1954 A Star is Born (1954) 1001 400
1954 Brigadoon, Mgm, 1954 500
1954 Carmen Jones (1954) 1001 400
1954 La Strada (1954) 1001 250
1954 Les Diaboliques (1954) 1001 250
1954 Salt of the Earth (1954) 1001 400
1954 Sansho the Baliff (1954) 1001
1954 Silver Lode (1954) 1001
1954 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea 400
1954 The Barefoot Contessa (1954) 1001
1954 The Wanton Countess (1954) 1001
1954 Them!, Warner Bros., 1954 500
1954 Three Coins in the Fountain nom
1955 Artists and Models (1955) 1001
1955 The Blackboard Jungle 400
1955 Bob the Gambler (1955) 1001
1955 Hill 24 Doesn’t Matter (1955) 1001
1955 Kiss Me Deadly (1955) 1001 500
1955 Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing nom
1955 Night and Fog (1955) 1001
1955 Ordet (1955) 1001
1955 Pather Panchali (1955) 1001
1955 Picnic nom
1955 Smiles of a Summer Night (1955) 1001
1955 The Ladykillers (1955) 1001
1955 The Mad Masters (1955) 1001
1955 The Night of the Hunter (1955) 1001 400 250
1955 The Phenix City Story (1955) 1001
1955 The Rose Tattoo nom
1955 The Sins of Lola Montes (1955) 1001
1956 A Man Escaped (1956) 1001
1956 Around the World in 80 Days 400 BestPic
1956 Beyond A Reasonable Doubt, Rko, 1956 500
1956 Bigger Than Life (1956) 1001
1956 Forbidden Planet (1956) 1001 500
1956 Friendly Persuasion nom
1956 High Society (1956) 1001
1956 The Burmese Harp (1956) 1001
1956 The Killing (1956) 250
1956 The Man who Knew Too Much (1956) 1001 500
1956 The Wrong Man (1956) 1001
1956 War And Peace, Paramount, 1956 500
1956 Written on the Wind (1956) 1001
1957 A Affair to Remember 1001 400
1957 Det sjunde inseglet (1957) 250
1957 Mother India (1957) 1001
1957 Peyton Place nom
1957 Sayonara nom
1957 Smultronstället (1957) 250
1957 Sweet Smell of Success (1957) 1001
1957 Tall T, The, Columbia, 1957 500
1957 The Cranes are Flying (1957) 1001
1957 The Incredible Shrinking Man (1957) 1001 500
1957 The Seventh Seal (1957) 1001
1957 The Unvanquished (1957) 1001
1957 Throne of Blood (1957) 1001
1957 Wild Strawberries (1957) 1001
1958 7th Voyage Of Sinbad, The, Columbia, 1958 500
1958 Ashes and Diamonds (1958) 1001
1958 Auntie Mame nom
1958 Cairo Station (1958) 1001
1958 Damn Yankees!, Warner Bros., 1958 500
1958 Gigi 400 nom
1958 Horror of Dracula (1958) 1001
1958 I Want To Live!, United Artists, 1958 500
1958 Man of the West (1958) 1001
1958 My Uncle (1958) 1001
1958 Separate Tables nom
1958 The Music Room (1958) 1001
1958 Touch of Evil (1958) 1001 500 400 250
1959 Al Capone, Allied Artists, 1959 500
1959 Black Orpheus (1959) 1001
1959 Breathless (1959) 1001
1959 Compulsion, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1959 500
1959 Eyes without a Face (1959) 1001
1959 Floating Weeds (1959) 1001
1959 Hiroshima Mon Amour (1959) 1001
1959 Libel, Mgm, 1959 500
1959 On The Beach 400
1959 Pickpocket (1959) 1001
1959 Ride Lonesome (1959) 1001
1959 Room at the Top nom
1959 Shadows (1959) 1001 400
1959 The 400 Blows (1959) 1001
1959 The Diary of Anne Frank 400 nom
1959 The Hole (1959) 1001
1959 The Nun's Story nom
1959 The World of Apu (1959) 1001
1959 Young Philadelphians, The, Warner Bros., 1959 500
1960 La Dolce Vita (1960) 1001
1960 Peeping Tom (1960) 1001
1960 Revenge of the Vampire/Black Sunday (1960) 1001
1960 Rise And Fall Of Legs Diamond, The, Warner Bros., 1960 500
1960 Rocco and His Brothers (1960) 1001
1960 Saturday Night and Sunday Morning (1960) 1001
1960 Shoot the Piano Player (1960) 1001
1960 Sons and Lovers nom
1960 The Adventure (1960) Avventura, L' 1001
1960 The Cloud-Capped Star (1960) 1001
1960 The Housemaid (1960) 1001
1960 The Sundowners nom
1960 The Young One (1960) 1001
1960 Time Machine, The, Mgm, 1960 500
1961 Breakfast at Tiffany’s (1961) 1001 400
1961 Children's Hour, The, United Artists, 1961 500
1961 Chronicle of a Summer (1961) 1001
1961 El Cid, Allied Artists, 1961 500 400
1961 Fanny nom
1961 Jules and Jim (1961) 1001
1961 La Jetee (1961) The Pier 1001
1961 Last Year at Marienbad (1961) 1001
1961 Lola (1961) 1001
1961 One-Eyed Jacks (1961) 1001
1961 Raisin in the Sun, A 400
1961 Splendor in the Grass (1961) 1001 400
1961 The Ladies Man (1961) 1001
1961 The Night (1961) 1001
1961 Through a Glass Darkly (1961) 1001
1961 Viridiana (1961) 1001
1961 Yojimbo (1961) The Bodyguard 250
1962 Day of Wine and Roses 400
1962 A Dog’s Life (1962) 1001
1962 An Autumn Afternoon (1962) 1001
1962 Cleo de 5 a 7 (1962) 1001
1962 Dog Star Man (1962) 1001
1962 Exterminating Angel, The - Buñuel, Luis 1962 1111
1962 Heaven and Earth Magic (1962) 1001
1962 Kepper of Promises (1962) 1001
1962 L’eclisse (1962) Eclipse 1001
1962 Lolita (1962) 1001
1962 Lonely Are The Brave, Universal, 1962 500
1962 My Life To Live (1962) Vivre sa vie 1001
1962 Ride The High Country, Mgm, 1962 500
1962 What Ever Happened To Baby Jane? (1962) 1001 400
1963 8 1/2 (1963) 1001 250
1963 America, America nom
1963 An Actor’s Revenge (1963) 1001
1963 Barren Lives (1963) 1001
1963 Blonde Cobra (1963) 1001
1963 Cleopatra, Twentieth Century Fox, 1963 500 400 nom
1963 Contempt (1963) 1001
1963 Flaming Creatures (1963) 1001
1963 From Russia with Love 400
1963 Jason And The Argonauts, Columbia, 1963 500
1963 Lilies of the Field nom
1963 List Of Adrian Messenger, The, Universal, 1963 500
1963 Mediteranee (1963) 1001
1963 Passenger (1963) 1001
1963 Shock Corridor (1963) 1001
1963 Sword In The Stone, The, Disney, 1963 500
1963 The Cool World (1963) 1001
1963 The Haunting (1963) 1001
1963 The House is Black (1963) 1001
1963 Hud (1963) 1001 400
1963 The Leopard (1963) 1001
1963 The Servant (1963) 1001
1963 Tom Jones 400 BestPic
1963 Winter Light (1963) 1001
1964 The Americanization of Emily 400
1964 Becket nom
1964 Before the Revolution (1964) 1001
1964 Black God, White Devil (1964) 1001
1964 Cheyenne Autumn, Warner Bros., 1964 500
1964 Gertrud (1964) 1001
1964 Goldfinger 400
1964 Scorpio Rising (1964) 1001
1964 Seance on a Wet Afternoon (1964)

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1964 Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors (1964) 1001
1964 Shot In The Dark, A, United Artists, 1964 500
1964 The Demon (1964) 1001
1964 The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1964) 1001
1964 The Masque of the Red Death (1964) 1001
1964 The Red Desert (1964) 1001
1964 The Umbrellas of Cherbourg (1964) 1001
1964 Woman in the Dunes (1964) 1001
1964 Zorba the Greek nom
1965 Alphaville (1965) 1001
1965 Chimes at Midnight (1965) 1001
1965 Darling nom
1965 Faster, Pussy Cat! Kill! Kill! (1965) 1001
1965 Golden River (1965) 1001
1965 Greatest Story Ever Told, The, United Artists, 1965 500
1965 Juliet of the Spirits (1965) 1001
1965 Per qualche dollaro in più (1965) For A Few Dollars More 250
1965 Pierrot Goes Wild (1965) Pierrot le fou 1001
1965 Repulsion (1965) 1001
1965 Ship of Fools nom
1965 The Battle of Algiers (1965) 1001
1965 The Man Who Had His Hair Cut Short (1965) De man die zijn haar kort liet knippen 1001
1965 The Saragossa Manuscript (1965) 1001
1965 The Shop on Main Street (1965) 1001
1965 The War Game (1965) 1001
1965 Tokyo Olympiad (1965) 1001
1965 Vinyl (1965) 1001
1966 Alfie nom
1966 Andrei Rublev (1966) 1001
1966 Balthazar (1966) Au hasard Balthazar 1001
1966 Blowup (1966) 1001
1966 Come Drink With Me (1966) 1001
1966 Daisies (1966) 1001
1966 Hold Me While I’m Naked (1966) 1001
1966 La battaglia di Algeri (1966) The Battle of Algiers 250
1966 Madame X, Universal, 1966 500
1966 Man For All Seasons, A, Columbia, 1966 500 400 BestPic
1966 Masculine-Feminine (1966) 1001
1966 Persona (1966) 1001
1966 Seconds (1966) 1001
1966 The Sand Pebbles nom
1967 Belle De Jour (1967) Beauty of the Day 1001
1967 Closely Watched Trains (1967) 1001
1967 Earth Entranced (1967) 1001
1967 Hombre (1967) 1001
1967 Marketta Lazarova (1967) 1001
1967 Playtime (1967) 1001
1967 Point Blank (1967) 1001
1967 Report (1967) 1001
1967 The Fireman’s Ball (1967) 1001
1967 The Godson (1967) 1001
1967 The Red and the White (1967) 1001
1967 The Young Girls of Rochefort (1967) 1001
1967 Two For The Road 400
1967 Two or Three Things I Know about Her (1967) 1001
1967 Viy (1967) Spirit of Evil {Vij} 1001
1967 Wavelength (1967) 1001
1967 Week End (1967) 1001
1968 Bullitt 400
1968 David Holzman’s Diary (1968) 1001
1968 Faces (1968) 1001
1968 Hour of the Wolf (1968) 1001
1968 If (1968) 1001
1968 Memories of Underdevelopment (1968) 1001
1968 Once Upon a Time in the West - Leone, Sergio 1968 1001
1968 Rachel, Rachel nom
1968 Shame (1968) 1001
1968 Targets (1968) 1001
1968 The Cow (1968) 1001
1969 A Touch of Zen (1969) Xia nu 1001
1969 Anne of the Thousand Days nom
1969 Downhill Racer, Paramount, 1969 500
1969 HIgh School (1969) 1001
1969 In the Year of the Pig (1969) 1001
1969 Kes (1969) 1001
1969 Lucia (1969) 1001
1969 Medium Cool 400
1969 My Night with Maud (1969) 1001
1969 Satyricon (1969) 1001
1969 The Butcher (1969) 1001
1969 The Color of Pomegranates (1969) Sayat Nova 1001
1969 The Conformist (1969) 1001
1969 Z (1969) 1001 nom
1970 Bloody Mama, American International, 1970 500
1970 Deep End (1970) 1001
1970 El Topo (1970) The Mole {Gopher} 1001
1970 Gimme Shelter (1970) 1001
1970 Great White Hope, The, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1970 500
1970 Performance (1970) 1001
1970 The Bird with the Crystal Plumage (1970) L'uccello dalle piume di cristallo 1001
1970 The Ear (1970) 1001
1970 The Garden of the Finzi-Continis (1970) 1001
1970 The Spider’s Stratagem (1970) 1001
1970 Tristana (1970) 1001
1970 Zabriskie Point (1970) 1001
1971 Get Carter (1971) 1001
1971 Murmur of the Heart (1971) 1001
1971 Nicholas and Alexandra nom
1971 Red Psalm (1971) 1001
1971 Straw Dogs (1971) 1001
1971 Sweet Sweetback’s Badasssss Song (1971) 1001
1971 The Sorrow and the Pity (1971) 1001
1971 Two-Lane Blacktop (1971) 1001
1971 W.R.: Mysteries of the Organism (1971) 1001
1971 Walkabout (1971) 1001
1971 Wanda (1971) 1001
1972 Aguirre, The wrath of God (1972) 1001
1972 Cries and Whispers (1972) 1001 nom
1972 Fat City (1972) 1001
1972 Frenzy (1972) 1001
1972 Jeremiah Johnson, Warner Bros., 1972 500
1972 Pink Flamingos (1972) 1001
1972 Silent Running, Universal, 1972 500
1972 Sleuth (1972) 1001 500
1972 Solaris (1972) 1001
1972 Sounder 400 nom
1972 Superfly (1972) 1001
1972 The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant (1972) 1001
1972 The Emigrants nom
1972 The Heartbreak Kid (1972) 1001
1973 A Touch of Class nom
1973 Amarcord (1973) I Remember 1001
1973 Badlands (1973) 1001 400
1973 Day for Night (1973) 1001
1973 Don’t Look Now (1973) 1001
1973 Fantastic Planet (1973) 1001
1973 Last Of Sheila, The, Warner Bros., 1973 500
1973 Mean Streets (1973) 1001 400
1973 The Harder They Come (1973) 1001
1973 The Long Goodbye (1973) 1001
1973 The Mother and the Whore (1973) 1001
1973 The Spirit of the Beehive (1973) 1001
1973 The Wicker Man (1973) 1001
1973 Turkish Delight (1973) 1001
1974 A Woman Under the Influence (1974) 1001
1974 Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (1974) 1001
1974 Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (1974) 1001
1974 Celine and Julie Go Boating (1974) 1001
1974 Dersu Uzala (1974) 1001
1974 Lenny nom
1974 Murder On The Orient Express, Paramount, 1974 500
1974 The Towering Inferno nom
1974 Thieves Like Us, United Artists, 1974 500
1975 Barry Lyndon (1975) 1001 250
1975 Cria! (1975) Cría cuervos 1001
1975 Fox and His Friends (1975) 1001
1975 India Song (1975) 1001
1975 Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai Du Commerce, 1080 Bruzelles (1975) 1001
1975 Man Who Would Be King, The, Columbia, 1975 500 400
1975 Manila In the Claws of Brightness (1975) 1001
1975 Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975) 1001
1975 Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom (1975) 1001
1975 The Travelling Players (1975) 1001
1975 The Wall (1975) 1001
1976 1900 (1976) 1001
1976 Ascent (1976) 1001
1976 Bingo Long Traveling All-Stars & Motor Kings, The, Universal, 1976 500
1976 Bound for Glory nom
1976 Bugsy Malone, Paramount, 1976 500
1976 In the Realm of the Senses (1976) 1001
1976 The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (1976) 1001
1976 The Man Who Fell to Earth (1976) 1001
1976 The Mirror (1976) 1001
1977 Ceddo (1977) Outsiders 1001
1977 Julia nom
1977 Killer of Sheep (1977) 1001
1977 Last Chants for a Slow Dance (1977) 1001
1977 Man of Marble (1977) 1001
1977 Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh, The, Disney, 1977 500
1977 Soldier of Orange (1977) 1001
1977 Stroszek (1977) 1001
1977 Suspiria (1977) 1001
1977 The American Friend (1977) 1001
1977 The Hills Have Eyes (1977) 1001
1977 The Last Wave (1977) 1001
1978 An Unmarried Woman nom
1978 Days of Heaven (1978) 1001 400
1978 Five Deadly Venoms (1978) 1001
1978 Shaolin Master Killer (1978) Shao Lin san shi liu fang ; 36th Chamber 1001
1978 The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith (1978) 1001
1978 Thre Tree of Wooden Clogs (1978) 1001
1979 All That Jazz 1001 400 nom
1979 Manhattan (1979) 1001 400 250
1979 My Brilliant Career (1979) 1001
1979 Nosferatu: Phantom of the Night (1979) 1001
1979 Real Life (1979) 1001
1979 Stalker (1979) 1001
1979 The Marriage of Maria Braun (1979) 1001
1979 The Tin Drum (1979) 1001
1980 Loulou (1980) 1001
1980 Tess nom
1980 The Big Red One (1980) 1001
1980 The Last Metro (1980) 1001
1980 Return of the Secaucus 7 400
1981 American Pop, Tristar, 1981 500
1981 An American Werewolf in London (1981) 1001
1981 Clash Of The Titans, Mgm, 1981 500
1981 Das Boot (1981) The Boat 1001 250
1981 Gallipoli (1981) 1001
1981 Man of Iron (1981) 1001
1981 Reds (1981) 1001 10top 400 nom
1981 Three Brothers (1981) 1001
1981 Too Early, Too Late (1981) 1001
1982 A Question of Silence (1982) 1001
1982 Dark Crystal, The, Universal, 1982 500
1982 Fanny and Alexander (1982) 1001
1982 Fitzcaraldo (1982) 1001
1982 Missing 400 nom
1982 Secret Of Nimh, The, Mgm, 1982 500
1982 The Evil Dead (1982) 1001
1982 The NIght of the Shooting Stars (1982) 1001
1982 The Thing (1982) 250
1982 Yol (1982) The way 1001
1983 El Norte (1983) 1001 400
1983 Heart Like A Wheel, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1983 500
1983 Koyaanisqatsi (1983) Life Out Of balance 1001
1983 Local Hero 400
1983 Sans Soleil (1983) Without Sun 1001
1983 Tender Mercies nom
1983 The Ballad of Narayama (1983) 1001
1983 The Dresser nom
1983 The Fourth Man (1983) 1001
1983 The Last Battle (1983) 1001
1983 The Right Stuff (1983) 1001 400
1983 Utu (1983) 1001
1983 Vidodrome (1983) 1001
1984 A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) 1001
1984 Once Upon a Time in America 1001
1984 A Passage to India (1984) 1001
1984 Paris, Texas (1984) 1001
1984 Repo Man, Universal, 1984 500
1984 Stranger than Paradise (1984) 1001 400
1985 Brazil (1985) 1001 500 400 250
1985 Come and See (1985) 1001
1985 Kiss of the Spider Woman (1985) 1001
1985 Mishima: A LIfe in Four Chapter (1985) 1001
1985 Shoah (1985) 1001
1985 The Official Story (1985) 1001
1985 The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985) 1001 500
1985 The Quiet Earth (1985) 1001
1985 The Time to Live and the Time to Die (1985) 1001
1985 Vagabond (1985) 1001
1986 Caravaggio (1986) 1001
1986 Children of A Lesser God (1986) 1001 400 nom
1986 Down By Law (1986) 1001
1986 Hannah and Her Sisters (1986) 1001 400 nom
1986 Peking Opera Blues (1986) 1001
1986 Salvador (1986) 1001
1986 She’s Gotta Have It (1986) 1001
1986 Sherman’s March (1986) 1001
1986 Tampopo (1986) Dandelion 1001
1986 The Decline of the American Empire (1986) 1001
1986 The Horse Thief (1986) 1001
1986 The Mission nom
1987 A Chinese Ghost Story (1987) Sien nui yau wan 1001
1987 Au Revoir les Enfants (1987) Goodbye Children 1001
1987 Babette’s Feast (1987) 1001
1987 Brightness (1987) 1001
1987 Hope and Glory nom
1987 House Of Games, Orion, 1987 500
1987 Housekeeping (1987) 1001
1987 Last Emperor, The, Columbia, 1987 500 400 BestPic
1987 Project A, Part II (1987) 1001
1987 Red Sorghum (1987) Hong gao liang 1001
1987 The Dead (1987) 1001
1987 Wings of Desire (1987) 1001
1987 Withnail and I (1987) 1001
1988 A Cry in the Dark (1988) 10top
1988 A Tale of the Wind (1988) 1001
1988 Akira (1988) 1001
1988 Ariel (1988) 1001
1988 Drowning by Numbers (1988) 1001
1988 Grave of the Fireflies (1988) Hotaru no haka 1001 250
1988 Hotel Terminus: The Life and Times of Klaus Barbie (1988) 1001
1988 Landscape in the Mist (1988) 1001
1988 Last Temptation Of Christ, The, Universal, 1988 500 400
1988 Neco z Alenky (1988) Alice 1001
1988 Nuovo cinema Paradiso (1988) 1001 250
1988 The Decalogue (1988) Dekalog 1001
1988 The Story of Women (1988) 1001
1988 The Thin Blue Line (1988) 1001
1988 Tonari no Totoro (1988) My Neighbor Totoro 250
1988 Women on the Verge of A Nervous Breakdown (1988) 1001
1989 A City of Sadness (1989) 1001
1989 Drugstore Cowboy (1989) 1001
1989 Say Anything (1989) 1001 500
1989 The Asthenic Syndrome (1989) 1001
1989 The Cook, the Thief, HIs Wife and Her Lover (1989) 1001
1989 The Killer (1989) 1001
1989 The Unbelievable Truth (1989) 1001
1990 Archangel (1990) 1001
1990 Close-Up (1990) Nema-ye Nazdik 1001
1990 Europa Europa (1990) 1001
1990 Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1990) 1001
1990 Jacob’s Ladder (1990) 1001
1990 King of New York (1990) 1001
1990 Miller's Crossing, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1990 500
1990 No Fear, No Die (1990) S'en fout la mort 1001
1990 Reversal of Fortune (1990) 1001
1990 Trust (1990) 1001
1991 A Brighter Summer Day (1991) 1001
1991 Boyz ‘n the Hood (1991) 1001 500
1991 Delicatessen (1991) 1001
1991 Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker’s Apocalypse (1991) 1001
1991 JFK (1991) 1001 nom
1991 My Own Private Idaho (1991) 1001
1991 Naked Lunch (1991) 1001
1991 New Jack City, Warner Bros., 1991 500
1991 Once Upon a Time In China (1991) 1001
1991 Raise the Red Lantern (1991) 1001
1991 Rambling Rose 400
1991 Slacker (1991) 1001
1991 The Beautiful Troublemaker (1991) 1001
1991 The Double Life of Veronique (1991) 1001
1991 The Rapture (1991) 1001
1991 Tongues Untied (1991) 1001
1992 A Tale of Winter (1992) 1001
1992 Aileen Wuornos: The Selling of a Serial Killer (1992) 1001
1992 Bram Stoker’s Dracula (1992) 1001
1992 Candy Man (1992) 1001
1992 Howards End nom
1992 Last Of The Mohicans, The, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1992 500
1992 Malcolm X, Warner Bros., 1992 500
1992 Man Bites Dog (1992) 1001
1992 The Player 1001 400
1992 Romper stomper (1992) 1001
1992 Strictly Ballroom (1992) 1001
1992 The Actress (1992) 1001
1993 Farewell My Concubine (1993) Ba wang bie ji 1001
1993 In the Name of the Father nom
1993 The Joy Luck Club 400
1993 Short Cuts (1993) 1001
1993 The Age of Innocence (1993) 1001
1993 The Blue Kite (1993) 1001
1993 The Puppetmaster (1993) 1001
1993 The Remains of the Day nom
1993 The Wedding Banquet (1993) 1001
1993 Thirty Two Films about Glenn Gould (1993) 1001
1993 Three Colors: Blue (1993) 1001
1994 Bullets Over Broadway, Miramax, 1994 500
1994 Chungking Express (1994) 1001
1994 Crumb (1994) 1001
1994 Dear Diary (1994) 1001
1994 Heavenly Creatures (1994) 1001
1994 Hoop Dreams (1994) 1001
1994 Muriel’s Wedding (1994) 1001
1994 Natural Born Killers (1994) 1001
1994 Riget (1994) The Kingdom 1001
1994 Satantango (1994) Satan's Tango 1001
1994 The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert (1994) 1001
1994 The Last Seduction (1994) 1001
1994 The Wild Reeds (1994) 1001
1994 Three Colors: Red (1994) 1001
1994 Through the Olive Trees (1994) 1001
1995 Cyclo (1995) 1001
1995 Dead Man (1995) 1001
1995 Deseret (1995) 1001
1995 Il Postino (1995) The Postman nom
1995 Leaving Las Vegas 400
1995 Safe (1995) 1001
1995 Smoke (1995) 1001
1995 Strange Days (1995) 1001
1995 The Brave Heart Will Take the Bride (1995) 1001
1995 The White Balloon (1995) 1001
1995 Underground (1995) 1001
1995 Zero Kelvin (1995) 1001
1996 Breaking the Waves (1996) 1001
1996 Crucible, The, Twentieth Century-Fox, 1996 500
1996 Gabbeh (1996) 1001
1996 Lone Star (1996) 1001 500
1996 Primal Fear, Paramount, 1996 500
1996 Secrets and Lies (1996) 1001 nom
1996 Shine (1996) 1001 nom
1996 The English Patient (1996) 1001 400 BestPic
1996 The Pillow Book (1996) 1001
1996 Three Lives and Only One Death (1996) 1001
1996 Trainspotting (1996) 1001 250
1997 Amistad, Dreamworks, 1997 500
1997 Contact, Warner Bros., 1997 500
1997 Deconstructing Harry (1997) 1001
1997 Fast, Cheap, and Out of Control (1997) 1001
1997 Funny Games (1997) 1001
1997 Happy Together (1997) 1001
1997 Kundun (1997) 1001
1997 Mother and Son (1997) 1001
1997 My Best Friend's Wedding, Tristar, 1997 500
1997 Open Your Eyes (1997) 1001
1997 Princess Mononoke (1997) Mononoke-hime 1001 250
1997 Taste of Cherry (1997) 1001
1997 The Butcher Boy (1997) 1001
1997 The Ice Storm (1997) 1001
1997 The Sweet Hereafter (1997) 1001
1998 Buffalo 66 (1998) 1001
1998 Elizabeth nom
1998 Happiness (1998) 1001
1998 Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998) 1001 250
1998 Pi (1998) 1001
1998 Ring (1998) 1001
1998 Sombre (1998) 1001
1998 Tetsuo (1998) The Iron Man 1001
1998 The Celebration (1998) 1001
1998 The Idiots (1998) 1001
1999 All About My Mother (1999) 1001
1999 Attack the Gas Station! (1999) 1001
1999 Audition (1999) 1001
1999 Beau Travail (1999) Good Work 1001
1999 Insider, The, Touchstone, 1999 500 nom
1999 Le temps retrouvé, d'après l'oeuvre de Marcel Proust (1999) Time Regained 1001
1999 Rosetta (1999) 1001
1999 South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut, Paramount, 1999 500
1999 Taboo (1999) 1001
1999 The Wind Will Carry Us (1999) 1001
2000 A One and A Two (2000) 1001
2000 Ali Zaoua, Prince of the Streets (2000) 1001
2000 Amores Perros (2000) 1001 250
2000 Dancer in the Dark (2000) 1001
2000 In the Mood for Love (2000) 1001
2000 Kippur (2000) 1001
2000 Nine Queens (2000) 1001
2000 Signs and Wonders (2000) 1001
2000 Snatch. (2000) 250
2000 The Captive (2000) 1001
2000 The Gleaners and I (2000) 1001
2000 Traffic (2000) 1001 nom
2001 Fat Girl (2001) 1001
2001 In the Bedroom nom
2001 Kandahar (2001) Safar e Ghandehar 1001
2001 Lantana (2001) 1001
2001 Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain (2001) 1001 250
2001 Monsoon Wedding (2001) 1001
2001 No Man’s Land (2001) 1001
2001 Sprited Away (2001) Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi 1001 250
2001 The Piano Teacher (2001) 1001
2001 The Son’s Room (2001) 1001
2001 Waking Life, Fox Searchlight, 2001 500
2001 What Time Is It There? (2001) 1001
2001 Y tu mama tambien (2001) 1001
2002 Bus 174 (2002) 1001
2002 City of God (2002) Cidade de Deus 1001 250
2002 Far From Heaven (2002) 1001
2002 Irreversible (2002) 1001
2002 Mou gaan dou (2002) 250
2002 Russian Ark (2002) 1001
2002 Talk To Her (2002) 1001
2002 Uzak (2002) 1001
2003 Good Bye Lenin! (2003) 1001
2003 Oldboy (2003) 1001 250
2003 The Barbarian Invasion (2003) 1001
2003 The Best of Youth (2003) 1001
2003 The Polar Express, Warner Bros., 2003 500
2004 3-Iron (Bin-Jip) (2004) 1001
2004 A Very Long Engagement (2004) 1001
2004 Der Untergang (2004) 1001 250
2004 Head-On (2004) Gegen die Wand 1001
2004 Hotel Rwanda (2004) 250
2004 Miracle, Disney, 2004 500
2004 The Passion of the Christ (2004) 1001 500
2005 Cache (2005) 1001
2005 Corpse Bride, Warner Bros., 2005 500
2005 Good Night, and Good Luck. nom
2005 Paradise Now (2005) 1001
2005 Robots, Twentieth Century-Fox, 2005 500
2005 Tsotsi (2005) 1001
2005 Va, Vis et deviens (2005) 1001
2006 Apocalypto (2006) 1001
2006 Babel (2006) 1001 nom
2006 Monster House, Columbia, 2006 500
2006 Once (2006) 1001
2006 The Host (2006) 1001
2006 The Lives of Others (2006) Das Leben der Anderen 1001 250
2006 United 93 (2006) 1001
2006 Volver (2006) 1001
2007 La Vie En Rose (2007) 1001
2007 Ratatouille (2007) 250
2007 Surfwise 1001
2007 The Bourne Ultimatum (2007) 1001 250
2008 Gomorra 1001
2008 In Bruges (2008) 250
2008 Låt den rätte komma in (2008) 250
2008 The Class 1001
2008 The Good, The Bad and The Weird 1001
2009 District 9 (2009) 250 nom
2009 Inglourious Basterds (2009) 250 nom
2009 Avatar 250 nom
2009 An Education nom
2009 Precious nom
2009 Crazy Heart
2009 Watchmen
2009 Hangover
2009 Julie and Julia


The last four just because I want to

662 -1001
133 - 500 (for 10 top 10)
114 - 400 (AFI top 100)
46 - IMDB Top 250 (11/09)
194 - (Best Picture Nominees - 475 in total)

Patience
05-16-2010, 11:17 AM
Far From Heaven (1001) When an American film is only on this list it is not a great sign. This was a well acted soap. I didn't toally buy the interaction of the characters and tried way too hard for the Donna Reed 1950's feel

Patience, is Days of Wine and Roses on your list?

Days Of Wine and Roses (400) This is a powerful movie that is somewhat tamed by time. The performances are excellent, can't complain losing best actor to Atticus Finch. It is so easy for this to go over the top and I think they handled that well, but felt a little too much like an AA ad, rather than just letting the story happen. Funny with Jack Klugman and Jack Lemmon with an Odd Couple mix and match

Primal Fear (500) Decent courtroom drama, that tried too hard to be shocking and just didn't do it for me. Very watchable, but I felt I was a step ahead. Hard to see Ed Norton do a personality change and not think Hulk

banshun
05-16-2010, 01:18 PM
I haven't seen Far From Heaven but I hear that it's also a tribute to movies by Douglas Sirk from the 1950s such as Imitation of Life, Written on the Wind (love it), and Magnificent Obsession. Super soap operas with underlying commentary on social mores of the day.

Days of Wine and Roses also hit me as more of an AA ad than a story that I got caught up in. Good roles though for the lead actors.

Patience
05-17-2010, 09:53 AM
I haven't seen Far From Heaven but I hear that it's also a tribute to movies by Douglas Sirk from the 1950s such as Imitation of Life, Written on the Wind (love it), and Magnificent Obsession. Super soap operas with underlying commentary on social mores of the day..

It was a strange mix though, trying for the old fashioned 1950's soap, with more cutting edge topics. It was on the edge of spoofy, but you know it wanted to be serious. btw, you forgot All That Heaven Allows, wouldn't be shocked if that was a title link.


Days of Wine and Roses also hit me as more of an AA ad than a story that I got caught up in. Good roles though for the lead actors.

There are so many good stories dealing with the issue. I think I preferred Country Girl or The Lost Weeend which hits a lot of the same notes, but feel less preachy.

The choices of Blake Edwards & Jack Lemmon, I believe helped it from going too far over the edge

yoyo
05-17-2010, 10:13 AM
Days Of Wine and Roses (400) This is a powerful movie that is somewhat tamed by time. The performances are excellent, can't complain losing best actor to Atticus Finch. It is so easy for this to go over the top and I think they handled that well, but felt a little too much like an AA ad, rather than just letting the story happen.
I see your point.

I thought the alcoholic depictions here were better than in Lost Weekend, but LW is good too.

Patience
05-17-2010, 11:11 AM
I see your point.

I thought the alcoholic depictions here were better than in Lost Weekend, but LW is good too.

Agree with that, the characters were layed very open and raw in this. It was very powerful, I just wish they found another way w/o so much focus on the AA. Not saying it shouldn't be there, but it was just too much of the focus. and they covered SO MUCH of the philosophy, the "why me", the chocolate addiction, and what made it harder is they were very likable characters, other than this their flaws were forgivable. I would have also preferred to see more of the daughter. She seemed to be just a bystander to all this, when you know life had to be hell.

But Lemmon, Remick and Bickford were excellent in very tough roles

Patience
05-18-2010, 11:50 AM
Cleopatra (500, 400, 1963 Nom) Let me start by saying I like Liz Taylor, I really do, I just didn't feel she had what this role takes. Basically the rest of the acting was good. Roddy McDowell excellent (lost supporting actor nomination due to Fox clerical error). But knocked off a four hour / three list movie from TV. So I got that going for me. Was intended as two movies Cleopatra and Caesar & Cleopatra and Antony - and that might have worked. Even at 4 hours lost a lot of character development and the split would have worked. Studio thought first part would bomb w/o limited Burton.

Funny something many see as a bomb (actually did make $$ despite huge budget) - was a 3 list movie.

Patience
05-19-2010, 10:46 AM
Watchmen (It was on sale at Blockbuster) I like to watch the current movies partially driven by SSH's thread. I like most of the superhero movies, and this was obviously a quality movie, but it didn't work for me. I don't usually spoil, but since this is recent I will do they have super powers or not, if not their fighting was too perfect. Was the message supposed to be we will be good if we believe God cares and watching us and will punish us? Because based on the bible that isn't enough. The bad guy gets off free, millions die and the diary though telling the truth will reverse the positive effects of the evil. and worst of all her paternity seems to be the bigger issue then the millions of deaths and I wasn't all that thrilled with Malin Åkerman acting. Worst of all every time I saw Jackie Earl Haley I kept thinking he could play Clint Eastwood's mini-me. Also the violence was too graphic for my taste and I wished I knew there was so much nudity and sex scenes as I was watching this on a plane.

Precious (2009 nom) Excellent movie, works well with documentary style. Excellent acting felt real, too real. It will be hard to ever see Mo'nique and not feel hatred - can't argue her Oscar win. Not sure if Gabourey Sidibe will be a good actress, this just felt she was being natural, if she comes back with a different story, she may be a better actress than I ever realized.

funny how I seem to have more to say on the movies that annoy me

Patience
05-20-2010, 11:34 AM
Crazy Heart (2009 wanna see) Good solid movie, sort of a combination of the Wrestler and Days of Wine and Roses. his getting sober was less preachy, but also way too easy The acting was supperb Gyllenhall was very good - for Bridges and Duval it just looks so easy - like they just are what they are and no acting required. Would have liked some more to the story though. More adversity

Patience
05-21-2010, 11:16 AM
An Education (2009 Nom) Shockingly only one other rating for this Oscar nominee in the SSH thread. Ok, it was very well acted, especially the young star. The dialogue was funny and witty and it was beautifully filmed. BUT, it just didn't do it for me. Maybe it was I have a 17 yo daughter, maybe I was just too tired. I don't know, but the plot just sort of went along and didn't drag me in.

banshun
05-21-2010, 11:25 AM
An Education - me neither. I thought the plot 'twists' were pretty obvious. That terrific young actress has the lead in the upcoming remake of My Fair Lady. People have likened her to Audrey Hepburn so this role seems like a can't miss...

3rookie
05-21-2010, 11:50 AM
Agree with that, the characters were layed very open and raw in this. It was very powerful, I just wish they found another way w/o so much focus on the AA. Not saying it shouldn't be there, but it was just too much of the focus. and they covered SO MUCH of the philosophy, the "why me", the chocolate addiction, and what made it harder is they were very likable characters, other than this their flaws were forgivable. I would have also preferred to see more of the daughter. She seemed to be just a bystander to all this, when you know life had to be hell.

But Lemmon, Remick and Bickford were excellent in very tough rolesSorry to come in late for this one. I agree that this movie is very powerful. The parts involving Klugman and AA were fine, though surprising to me since this movie came out in the early 1960's. I didn't think AA was in people's faces yet. If it came out in the 1980's, then I would have seen some of it as over-the-top.

Another addiction movie that I love is The Man with the Golden Arm. Not shown often, but very powerful.

Patience
05-21-2010, 03:32 PM
An Education - me neither. I thought the plot 'twists' were pretty obvious. That terrific young actress has the lead in the upcoming remake of My Fair Lady. People have likened her to Audrey Hepburn so this role seems like a can't miss...

can she sing or have they signed Marni Nixon?

Patience
05-29-2010, 01:13 AM
Hombre (1001) Since westerns are one of the 10 top 10 genre's and this was American made that means it isn't considered one of the top 50 westerns. Good cast led by Paul Newman, it was a good solid movie - though a bit too talky, with sporadic action and working too hard to develope a message as to character. Very watchable. Top 50 - well that would take some work. Easily could have been - not much of a miss, but surprsing for the 1001 list

Patience
05-31-2010, 08:49 PM
Das Leben der Anderen {The Lives of Others} (1001, IMDB 250) Also Oscar - best foreign film. Very interesting, very solid movie. Set in Germany before the wall coming down. Compared to most foreign films this was very serious and straightforward - but some very interesting parallels between the secret police spying on people, and watching a play and how deeply involved someone can get. I liked this a lot, but I just can never enjoy a subtitled film to the same degree as an American film (i perfer subtitled to dubbed) - it just seems to be extra work to pay attention and I was particularly tired that night, so I believe I would like this more if more wide awake, but for these foreign films, hard to only view under optimal conditions. Not usually an issue for heavier action films.

trondogss
05-31-2010, 10:17 PM
Watchmen (It was on sale at Blockbuster) I like to watch the current movies partially driven by SSH's thread. I like most of the superhero movies, and this was obviously a quality movie, but it didn't work for me. I don't usually spoil, but since this is recent I will do they have super powers or not, if not their fighting was too perfect. Was the message supposed to be we will be good if we believe God cares and watching us and will punish us? Because based on the bible that isn't enough. The bad guy gets off free, millions die and the diary though telling the truth will reverse the positive effects of the evil. and worst of all her paternity seems to be the bigger issue then the millions of deaths and I wasn't all that thrilled with Malin Åkerman acting. Worst of all every time I saw Jackie Earl Haley I kept thinking he could play Clint Eastwood's mini-me. Also the violence was too graphic for my taste and I wished I knew there was so much nudity and sex scenes as I was watching this on a plane.

Precious (2009 nom) Excellent movie, works well with documentary style. Excellent acting felt real, too real. It will be hard to ever see Mo'nique and not feel hatred - can't argue her Oscar win. Not sure if Gabourey Sidibe will be a good actress, this just felt she was being natural, if she comes back with a different story, she may be a better actress than I ever realized.

funny how I seem to have more to say on the movies that annoy me

Ok, I'll try to answer your questions about watchmen:

1. Dr. Manhatten was the only one with super powers.
2. The fighting was too perfect and their showing of "better than human" powers was a big flaw with the movie.
3. Part of the appeal was that it was an anti-hero film. All the "heros" had major character flaws.
4. The movie was very graphic, but not as gory/sex filled scenes as the novel.
5. There was only one true "hero" and that was Rorschach because even though what Ozymandias "saved they world" by uniting the worlds enemies, he murdered millions. Rorschach was now going to falter on the whole all bad guys need to go down.

I'm sure all that really didn't make sence, but I love the graphic novel and thought the movie was a decent representation of the film.

yoyo
06-01-2010, 08:00 AM
Das Leben der Anderen {The Lives of Others} (1001, IMDB 250) Also Oscar - best foreign film. Very interesting, very solid movie. Set in Germany before the wall coming down. Compared to most foreign films this was very serious and straightforward - but some very interesting parallels between the secret police spying on people, and watching a play and how deeply involved someone can get. I liked this a lot, but I just can never enjoy a subtitled film to the same degree as an American film (i perfer subtitled to dubbed) - it just seems to be extra work to pay attention and I was particularly tired that night, so I believe I would like this more if more wide awake, but for these foreign films, hard to only view under optimal conditions. Not usually an issue for heavier action films.
i really enjoyed this movie. it kept coming to mind for days after i saw it, which is unusual for me. the exterior shots were interesting, a butt ugly place to live. horrible, ugly buildings and POS cars, except for those used by those in political power.

Patience
06-01-2010, 09:25 AM
i really enjoyed this movie. it kept coming to mind for days after i saw it, which is unusual for me. the exterior shots were interesting, a butt ugly place to live. horrible, ugly buildings and POS cars, except for those used by those in political power.

Not sure it was all that original in the spy watching becomes a voyeur to a degree and gets involved in the others lives. Not sure if I was stretching the meaning but the fact these were theature people and the parellels between watching a play and him watching their actions added a nice new dimension. He getting involved in the action though is where the parallel breaks.

btw did you notice, near the end, when we see him (sorry can't remember names) steaming envelopes, the guy behind him is the one who told the joke in the cafeteria.

and I did like the camera shots and the whole setting of it as well. as for the cars and buildings, that was not all that surprising to me, so I guess it didn't register

Patience
06-01-2010, 09:36 AM
Ok, I'll try to answer your questions about watchmen:

1. Dr. Manhatten was the only one with super powers.
2. The fighting was too perfect and their showing of "better than human" powers was a big flaw with the movie.
3. Part of the appeal was that it was an anti-hero film. All the "heros" had major character flaws.
4. The movie was very graphic, but not as gory/sex filled scenes as the novel.
5. There was only one true "hero" and that was Rorschach because even though what Ozymandias "saved they world" by uniting the worlds enemies, he murdered millions. Rorschach was now going to falter on the whole all bad guys need to go down.

I'm sure all that really didn't make sence, but I love the graphic novel and thought the movie was a decent representation of the film.


Thanks

1 & 2 is what I assumed. But if true it seems especially improbable with Ozymandias

and I like the flawed hero concept. as for the graphic violence and the sexual over tones - may not have been as bad if I watching on a plane and concerned someone was looking over my shoulder.

I have never read a graphic novel, and very few Superhero comics. Though in general I have been a fan of the movie genre as long as it doesn't star Ben Affleck, Nicolas Cage or is the fourth (sopmetinmes 3rd) or later of a series. Few movies can survive that.

I do believe these movies need the ability to stand on their own merits though. This came up a bit short for me.

What also gets confusing is for many of these new ones I am not always aware of the source and in some cases (Hulk) is it a new production series or a continuation.

I am a bit surprsied that they only made the one new Superman out of the last sequence, unless it just wasn't that well recieved. Not sure how much further they can go with Batman or X-Men and keep it interesting, but The Avengers (Ironman) seems to have enough mix and match possibilities for a few more years.

yoyo
06-01-2010, 10:17 AM
Not sure it was all that original in the spy watching becomes a voyeur to a degree and gets involved in the others lives. Not sure if I was stretching the meaning but the fact these were theature people and the parellels between watching a play and him watching their actions added a nice new dimension. He getting involved in the action though is where the parallel breaks.

btw did you notice, near the end, when we see him (sorry can't remember names) steaming envelopes, the guy behind him is the one who told the joke in the cafeteria.

and I did like the camera shots and the whole setting of it as well. as for the cars and buildings, that was not all that surprising to me, so I guess it didn't register
yeah, noticed that guy.

i wasn't surprised by the buildings and cars - we're talking about life behind the iron curtain after all. i'm really just registering the impact it had on me. ye gads, what a bleak existance.

Patience
06-01-2010, 10:25 AM
yeah, noticed that guy.

i wasn't surprised by the buildings and cars - we're talking about life behind the iron curtain after all. i'm really just registering the impact it had on me. ye gads, what a bleak existance.

more than the infrastructure, an existence where a joke can get you the worst possible job, an existence where you are shocked if no one is watching you, an existence where you have to make choices between your career, your friends, your virtue and still have it all turn against you even when you play the game.

Bleak indeed

yoyo
06-01-2010, 10:28 AM
more than the infrastructure, an existence where a joke can get you the worst possible job, an existence where you are shocked if no one is watching you, an existence where you have to make choices between your career, your friends, your virtue and still have it all turn against you even when you play the game.

Bleak indeed
yep

Patience
06-04-2010, 12:44 PM
Ship of Fools (1965 Nom) Interesting film. Sort of The Love Boat with Nazis, Gypsey Prostitutes, Dwarves and a Mexican Banana boycott. Vivian Leigh's last film (she was only in 20 films). A slice of life and politics in 1933, set on a month long cruise.

Liberty Heights (just because) No list but it was on and interested me. Well done standard Barry Levinson Jewish coming of age in 1950's Baltimore. Characterizations a bit too stereotyped. Not as good as Avalon or Diner.

Patience
06-04-2010, 04:17 PM
From Russia With Love (400) I am not the biggest Bond fan. I watch them occassionly, but don't seek them out. This was a good, solid, enjoyable, now steriotypical Bond. Very Austin Powers as well. Actually a little surprised this made the 400.

Dismal Science
06-04-2010, 05:23 PM
This thread inspired me to start watching some of the classics and other more recent films I have missed (though not in any sort of order or following a list). Over the last few days I've watched Stagecoach, Shane, The Godfather, Gallipoli, Avatar, and The Blind Side.

Patience
06-05-2010, 02:10 PM
This thread inspired me to start watching some of the classics and other more recent films I have missed (though not in any sort of order or following a list). Over the last few days I've watched Stagecoach, Shane, The Godfather, Gallipoli, Avatar, and The Blind Side.

quite a mix you have there. If you want to start your own movie blog thread feel free to link it here.


20,000 Leagues Under The Sea (400) Ok, this is a toughie. I had just finished the book, so it is very fresh in my mind. I find a lot of Verne's writing to be very tedious and this was no exception - however, the book had interesting character development and relationships that this movie changed completely, and I believe for the worse. They removed Nemo's sense of humanity and broodiness. Ned Land (Kirk Douglas) had top billing, where he might have been the 4th, maybe third most important character in the book. They avoided all the amazing technology of the Nautilus, which makes this 1860's Sci Fi so intriguing. They ignored a lot of the natural beauty of the underworld. They shortened the story to just the escape attempts. They eliminated the intelectualdiscussions between Nemo and the Professor. They eliminated the total loyalty of servant to master. They even removed the feel of the length of the voyage which gives the story its name, plus the ultimate goal of Nemo. For its time I am sure the special effects were great. and for a Disney adventure it seems to be a nice movie, but I feel it could have been much better if it tried at all to be closer to the original material.

Patience
06-05-2010, 09:12 PM
District 9 (nominated, IMDB 250)
I needed more of the aliens initial story. I liked the documentary style at the beginning, but the main character just seemed too goofy, where I felt it needed to be straighter. Was left feeling unsure whether it should funny, spoofy, satire or serious.

The action part worked better for me, and you started to care what happened. But it wasn't as good as I kept hearing. and maybe that was part of the disappointment.

Surprised I can't find any evidence of what I was sure was a pure sign of a sequel

actuary_aspire
06-05-2010, 10:59 PM
District (nominated, IMDB 250)
I needed more of the aliens initial story. I liked the documentary style at the beginning, but the main character just seemed too goofy, where I felt it needed to be straighter. Was left feeling unsure whether it should funny, spoofy, satire or serious.

The action part worked better for me, and you started to care what happened. But it wasn't as good as I kept hearing. and maybe that was part of the disappointment.

Surprised I can't find any evidence of what I was sure was a pure sign of a sequel

You mean 'District 9'?...I loved the movie!!

I agree with your overall assessment w.r.t the main character. However, I thought he did a pretty good job after spraying some fluid on himself :)

As for the sequel, Blomkamp is unsure. He hasn't decided if it should be a sequel or a prequel, yet. :)

actuary_aspire
06-05-2010, 11:01 PM
I would recommend Harry Brown and Unthinkable. Both movies have a fine cast and a very good plot.

Patience
06-06-2010, 04:10 PM
You mean 'District 9'?...I loved the movie!!

I agree with your overall assessment w.r.t the main character. However, I thought he did a pretty good job after spraying some fluid on himself :)

As for the sequel, Blomkamp is unsure. He hasn't decided if it should be a sequel or a prequel, yet. :)

actually I could see both a prequel a sequel working well - 20 years earlier and 3 years later

Patience
06-06-2010, 04:20 PM
New Jack City (500) I seem to say this alot on the 500, but this means it was deemed a top 50 Gangster movie or Courtroom drama. I would be shocked that it is either. I am not going to do my own top 50 to refute this.

I thought the acting was poor, the characterizations cartoonish and steriotypical, the writing amateurish. It was a police drama for no real investigation. A court room drama where one obvious comment makes the prosecution give up. And all in all it was too preachy about being anti drug. A great message, but no subtlety. It seemed like everything done by the police & the lawyers had no research at all for realism. Maybe I missed something here, but this was not worth the time.

Patience
06-06-2010, 04:24 PM
I would recommend Harry Brown and Unthinkable. Both movies have a fine cast and a very good plot.

I am not really looking to add movies not on the list. Though I did pick up W, mostly because it was only $4. or if something on TV intrigues me and is not against a lsited movie (such as Liberty Heights or almost Fisher King)

but thanks, will keep in mind if nothing on list to watch

Patience
06-06-2010, 11:40 PM
Old Yeller (not on any list - ok so I lied) Never saw this and actually surprised it isn't on any lists. Very nice family film, simple, yet well done. It is so often referred to it should be a must see just for the references.

The Yearling (1946 Nom, 400) Beautifully filmed, using great color and nature. Also a nice family film, with a deeper message and an excellent cast, led by a young Gregory Peck. A lot of dead pets tonight. This one is worthwhile.

Old Yeller can't help but think of a story told on the Cosby Show and The Yearling by Father Mulcahy on MASH.

Patience
06-07-2010, 02:39 PM
Babel (1001, 2006 nom) I really enjoyed this. Not a traditional plot, but the stories all kept me intrigued. Well acted, but a lot of open ends left, which seemed somewhat fitting.

The DVD cover said this was the third of a trilogy, though it seemed to stand well on its own. Has anyone also seen the prior movies? Do they enhance this?

Definitely a movie to make you think.

Patience
06-13-2010, 10:14 AM
San Francisco (1936 Oscar Nom) I liked this film. The first 1 1/2 hours is your basic love triangle set in 1905 SF. A little too much Jeannette McDonald, but not her fault. Loved the relationship between the tough guy, atheist with the good heart (Clark Gable in his prime) and his boxing preist of a best friend (up and coming Spencer Tracy). Tracy was nom for best actor, though should definitely should have been as a supporting (great actor).

The last half hour is the Earthquake. For the time the special effects I thought were fantastic (I don't believe they had an Oscar yet). There was a deep religious message without going over the top. It avoided getting too mushy or too maudlin and was surprisingly optimistic at the end.

Keep in mind this is only 30 years after the actual event. For the last 30 minutes alone and the star power, surprised it isn't on more lists.

Journey to the Center of The Earth (2008 version) No list, just was on and why watch what is recorded, not all that much stored now. Again as i have been reading Verne and when I realized this wasn't the book, but a modern story of following those who followed and believed the book it worked well. That it as a tongue and cheak fantasy and it was ok, especially for a teenager. and it actually stuck to the book much better than other movie versions of books

Patience
06-25-2010, 11:54 PM
Bourne Ultimatum (1001, 250) Really good action movie. Loved the scene in the England train station. I saw the first, but not the second. Was a little lost at the beginning, but this is so much about the action it doesn't really matter much. For what it was it really worked.

The Good, The Bad and The Weird (1001) 1940's Manchuria, Korean bandits, Japanese and Chinese e armies - very confusing, but good action, good humor and entertaining with a spaghetti western feel. and at least one scene directly from its name sake.

W ($4 at Walmart) This was interesting, with a very good cast. I will leave all the political stuff for the other forum. Not sure where to believe and where I shouldn't. If it was truly fiction, it wouldn't be a very good movie, it was all the familiarity that makes it interesting. Of all the portrayals, it was Rice who surprised me the most, I thought she was a stronger person than what was portrayed here.

Patience
06-26-2010, 02:19 PM
Freedom for Us (1931) A Nous La Liberte' (1001) Excellent early talkie, musical comedy. I actually thought it would be done as an opera intially. Highly political - anti mass production message, but very well done. Obvious link to the silent age as action and non verbal communication are key. The production company sued Charlie Chaplin for Modern Times (not an obvious plagerism imo) and a conveyor belt scene to make Lucy jealous. Also, I believe the first foreign film to be nominated for any Oscar (lighting) . A lot of symetry of story and very well done.

Me Too
06-26-2010, 07:41 PM
FYI, I really appreciate when you include the year of the movie -- makes it much easier for me to place it.

banshun
06-26-2010, 08:25 PM
I like A NOUS LA LIBERTE a lot. Rene Clair, the director, had a successful career in the silent era but understood immediately how to use sound in a sophisticated way once the 'talkies' began. I like that Clair himself wasn't too keen on suing Chaplin and saw it as a great honor if Chaplin had 'borrowed' anything from him. I like Clair's LE MILLION even more, and hope it's on your viewing schedule. One very good US movie he did is the Agatha Christie adaptation AND THEN THERE WERE NONE (~1945).

Patience
06-27-2010, 09:33 AM
FYI, I really appreciate when you include the year of the movie -- makes it much easier for me to place it.

noted.

I like A NOUS LA LIBERTE a lot. Rene Clair, the director, had a successful career in the silent era but understood immediately how to use sound in a sophisticated way once the 'talkies' began. I like that Clair himself wasn't too keen on suing Chaplin and saw it as a great honor if Chaplin had 'borrowed' anything from him. I like Clair's LE MILLION even more, and hope it's on your viewing schedule. One very good US movie he did is the Agatha Christie adaptation AND THEN THERE WERE NONE (~1945).

old foreign films like this and M are actually much easier to watch and follow as it is so close to silent movie style and so much is done without words.

Le Million is on the list.

In my opinion the only version of Ten Little Indians (yada yada) worth seeing. Love that movie, especially since saw that before reading the book so didn't know how it ended.

Alto Reed on a Tenor Sax
06-27-2010, 06:58 PM
Bourne Ultimatum (1001, 250) Really good action movie. Loved the scene in the England train station. I saw the first, but not the second. Was a little lost at the beginning, but this is so much about the action it doesn't really matter much. For what it was it really worked.
Me and my buddy have a "Bourne marathon" on our to-do list. He's seen them all, I've seen none of them. He says they rock.

W ($4 at Walmart) I bought a copy of W for $.99 at Walgreens, thought I had found a steal. Turns out it was just a defective print of M that ran upside down.

Patience
06-28-2010, 04:10 PM
Nuovo Cinema Paradiso (1988) (1001, IMDB 250) I loved this movie. Also, best Foreign film. Beautifully filmed, funny, sad. and about people who love movies. Life imitates movies and movies imitate life and most important life goes on at the movies. Meeting your loved one, raising kids, lust, politics, sleep, sex. Loved the little kid and absolutely loved the ending sequence.

banshun
06-28-2010, 04:16 PM
This movie is a favorite of many but really fell flat for me. Every movie manipulates is crafted to manipulate us but for some reason I was so keenly aware of it with this one. It was probably something that I ate that day. I do plan to revisit this sometime.

Patience
06-28-2010, 04:24 PM
This movie is a favorite of many but really fell flat for me. Every movie manipulates is crafted to manipulate us but for some reason I was so keenly aware of it with this one. It was probably something that I ate that day. I do plan to revisit this sometime.

sorry to hear that. I had no preconcieved notions going in. My daughter and I enjoyed it quite a lot. No terribly strong message, not action or anticipation of a goal. Just a slice of life, that I felt was very well done.

Super Silver Haze
06-28-2010, 05:05 PM
I bought a copy of W for $.99 at Walgreens, thought I had found a steal. Turns out it was just a defective print of M that ran upside down.
:rimshot:

Patience
07-03-2010, 12:07 AM
Fury (1936) (400, 500) Very interesting film. Fritz Lang's first in the US. Spencer Tracy as always is wonderful. Interesting to see him get a bit wild. The other main characters were ok, but so much was over the top and overly dramatic. The 500 is as a court room drama. The courtroom scenes are not terribly dramatic or special. Mob mentality justice is very hard to watch and this film shows it as graphically and as disturbing as I have ever seen. Facinating angle of the "lynched" man following the trial of his murder. Also starred the dog who would play Toto. As a "lynch" movie not as good as Ox Bow incident and as a covering up for the mob mentality not as good as Bad Day At Black Rock. Mostly because those movies kept more from us to make them more intriguing. Though takes on another interesting twist at the end as he is tormented to do the right thing regarding his death.

banshun
07-03-2010, 05:45 AM
I liked Fury OK. There's an interesting side to it, also, with Lang just having left Nazi Germany & the mob mentality there. Those peanuts were a bit of a coincidence! Really, though, that's OK, as coincidences happen all the time around us, but they're just not as vital usually to our future as those peanuts were to him.

Patience
07-03-2010, 11:15 AM
I liked Fury OK. There's an interesting side to it, also, with Lang just having left Nazi Germany & the mob mentality there. Those peanuts were a bit of a coincidence! Really, though, that's OK, as coincidences happen all the time around us, but they're just not as vital usually to our future as those peanuts were to him.

another side note was IMDB said Lang didn't like the ending kiss and would have preferred it end with the ending speach, but was over ruled. I agree with him, the relationship wasn't that important to the film, but overplayed a bit.

The memento thing was a bit annoying as well. Something with a more commonly used word would be better, especially when he was already constantly corrected

Patience
07-05-2010, 10:24 AM
two non-listers

Julie and Julia - I always figure if it has Streep it is worth the time, and I find Child an intriguing character. I liked the movie, but found it slow and like many true stories, when you know how it all ends, it needs to work much harder at keeping it interesting (I thought Apollo 13 did a particularly good job at that).

Lost Boys - another $4 film and some curiousity. Very campy, with some stuff that didn't work at all for me. The ending was just too random how Ed Hermann was killed. How did Bernard Hughes even know what was going on? The teenage vampire hunters. Abd they were prepping for a battle. Why not holy water - water balloons? Booby traps, not just poorly working squirt guns?

Alto Reed on a Tenor Sax
07-05-2010, 10:54 AM
[spoiler]how ** ******* was ******. How did ******* ****** even know **** *** ***** **?[/spoileor]

:shake: Glad this one wasn't on my list.

Patience
07-05-2010, 03:27 PM
:shake: Glad this one wasn't on my list.

oops

Patience
07-05-2010, 04:00 PM
The 400 Blows {1959} (1001, ARoTS 100*, IMDB 250**)

* I will spoil important parts of movies on ARoTS list. and yes I added it as a category, though most were already on my 1001 anyway.

** Not on the 250 when I made my list. Actually quite a move up for a film made 50 years ago

most of this need not be spoiled, though I doubled spoiled the true plot issues

I find many foreign films to be overdramatic and over emotional and over acted. This was not. Actually quite the opposite. The young star was perfectly unemotional, except for one tear in the police wagon. This movie is a perfect guide for how not to raise a child. Not abused like in Precious, more subtle, but oh so obvious. Though even those who meant well, only can show so much patience. This isn't one of those circumstances taking the person placed beyond his control. He makes his choices, with some peer pressure, but this isn't life spinning out of control, a farce of continuity.

Three scenes seem so out of place, but are incredibly amusing. The little boy who keeps messing up and tearing out pages. The Gym teacher taking the students for a walk. and the puppet show and the incredible expressions on the kids faces.

The one normal family moment comes at the cinema. Love the line as the dad says "it wasn't very funny" and the son replys, "yes but it had depth". But due to the mother thinking she fixed all with petty bribes. and he tried, but obviously didn't know how to write originally - he couldn't just turn it on

This is a story that could have been told in any inner city setting, which made it so universal in message. The ending is bit disappointing but I took it as meaning there is no end for him. Life will go on and he needs to just keep going along as well

I enjoyed this on many levels

Alto Reed on a Tenor Sax
07-05-2010, 04:14 PM
* I will spoil important parts of movies on ARoTS list. and yes I added it as a category, though most were already on my 1001 anyway.
Heh, flattered. Can't wait to come back and read this one.

banshun
07-05-2010, 07:14 PM
The 400 Blows

Glad you saw this and liked it. Spielberg is a fan of Truffaut fan and cast Truffaut in a small part in CE3K. You can see that they both have a strong affection for the children that populate their movies. The 400 Blows is the most complex movie dealing with life from a kid’s perspective through 1959, and I’d stack it against anything that’s come next. It was quite autobiographical for Truffaut. Love the scene in the police station as Antoine explains his perspective on the pressures he’s under. The last scene has really grown on me. Antoine has run away as far as he can, reaching the shore. The camera catches him in one of the most famous freeze frames in film history, a close-up on his eye, catching him at the key moment in which his life can proceed one way or another. We're left to ponder what thoughts are going on in that head and what path he will take. It’s not a very tidy ending but it makes you think long after the movie’s over. Plus, there are sequels so you can see how his life unfolds if you’re curious. This movie was the big one to kick off the French New Wave, in which some French critics took matters into their own hands to make the kind of movies that they wanted, rather than the uninteresting ones they critiqued weekly.

Jonas Grumby
07-05-2010, 09:39 PM
The 400 Blows

Glad you saw this and liked it. Spielberg is a fan of Truffaut fan and cast Truffaut in a small part in CE3K. You can see that they both have a strong affection for the children that populate their movies. The 400 Blows is the most complex movie dealing with life from a kid’s perspective through 1959, and I’d stack it against anything that’s come next. It was quite autobiographical for Truffaut. Love the scene in the police station as Antoine explains his perspective on the pressures he’s under. The last scene has really grown on me. Antoine has run away as far as he can, reaching the shore. The camera catches him in one of the most famous freeze frames in film history, a close-up on his eye, catching him at the key moment in which his life can proceed one way or another. We're left to ponder what thoughts are going on in that head and what path he will take. It’s not a very tidy ending but it makes you think long after the movie’s over. Plus, there are sequels so you can see how his life unfolds if you’re curious. This movie was the big one to kick off the French New Wave, in which some French critics took matters into their own hands to make the kind of movies that they wanted, rather than the uninteresting ones they critiqued weekly.

The ending of that movie made me so wistful, which is probably what Truffaut intended. I did wonder for years after seeing it what people made of it at the time. The ambiguous ending is a lot more familiar now than it was then...did some critics complain? Did the public balk? Or was all that cahier du cinema output never aimed at the broad public? I'd like to read a good book on the topic if you know one. All I have is Hitchcock/Truffaut, which is entertaining but uninformative.

Patience
07-05-2010, 09:48 PM
The ending of that movie made me so wistful, which is probably what Truffaut intended. I did wonder for years after seeing it what people made of it at the time. The ambiguous ending is a lot more familiar now than it was then...did some critics complain? Did the public balk? Or was all that cahier du cinema output never aimed at the broad public? I'd like to read a good book on the topic if you know one. All I have is Hitchcock/Truffaut, which is entertaining but uninformative.

for a movie that is about a life, especially a young life I believe we must realize there is no neat ending, just possibilities. Possibly what they wanted to convey in No Country, but while watching I wasn't viewing as a slice of life - but as a story with an ending. So for me the ending worked here.

Interesting perspective with Banshun's comment on running as far as possible. I was actually thinking of all the comments about never seeing the ocean, and he got to accomplish that. Maybe a message that he can achieve things. It was even the one caring moment from his mother

Patience
07-05-2010, 09:59 PM
two more non-listers because they were on, both nom for best actress - both with Jeremy Irons - all purely coincidence

Being Julia (2004) - nice movie, with a radiant (as usual) Annette Benning in a All About Eve tyoe of inside the theature look. Loved the scene near the end during the play

The French Lieutenants Woman (1981) ok, this was a very well acted and incredibly boring movie. A bit soapy and just didn't care who got whom. The one intersting aspect was the parellel story based on the actors who were making the movie, as an additional fictional story with the same actors playing the actors making the movie which I also found somewhat boring.

banshun
07-06-2010, 10:03 AM
I don't know how the audiences of the time felt about The 400 Blows. I'd guess that they average moviegoer didn't get exactly what they planned on but it might have stuck with them anyway. The critics seemed to like it, as it did well in some of the European film festivals and scored a Best Screenplay nomination at the Oscars. I have the same Truffaut/Hitchcock book but no others that focus on the French New Wave. I don't know how broadly the movie was distributed. In the US, I'd guess it made the art house circuit, which got a jump start in 1950 with Rashomon and then through the 1950s with Bergman and others. I'd be surprised if it got a wider release such as for a contemporary blockbuster like Ben-Hur.

Patience
07-06-2010, 10:25 AM
I don't know how the audiences of the time felt about The 400 Blows. I'd guess that they average moviegoer didn't get exactly what they planned on but it might have stuck with them anyway. The critics seemed to like it, as it did well in some of the European film festivals and scored a Best Screenplay nomination at the Oscars. I have the same Truffaut/Hitchcock book but no others that focus on the French New Wave. I don't know how broadly the movie was distributed. In the US, I'd guess it made the art house circuit, which got a jump start in 1950 with Rashomon and then through the 1950s with Bergman and others. I'd be surprised if it got a wider release such as for a contemporary blockbuster like Ben-Hur.

if you are talking about the IMDB bump, that was since November it went from a 7.8 to an 8.1. That is hard to do. As for its 1950's popularity, I do not know - but I will say it has aged very well and remains very relevant. Also, for wide release, even if not a better movie, the star power of a Charleton Heston is huge in box office domestically and internationally.
Any Oscar nomination for a foreign (non-English) film is huge in the respect it has garnered. Funny Wild Strawberries was up for the same award that year and both lost to Pillow Talk, might not have bothered me as much is lost to North By Northwest. Oddly neither film was nominated for Best Foreign Language film

Also, the title is pretty interesting

1) 400 Blows is a totally screwed up translation of what I guess is a French "turn of phrase" - like "my two cents" which might be totally meaningless to another culture. It is actually means life is just playing dirty tricks on an individual.

2) Most foreign films seem to operate under their original language name. This one tends to be known by its English title more often than not.

Han Solo
07-06-2010, 11:08 AM
two non-listers

Julie and Julia - I always figure if it has Streep it is worth the time, and I find Child an intriguing character. I liked the movie, but found it slow and like many true stories, when you know how it all ends, it needs to work much harder at keeping it interesting (I thought Apollo 13 did a particularly good job at that).Agreed about it being too slow. It did not hold my interest, and my wife actually fell asleep during it, which probably does not say much for the movie.

Lost Boys - another $4 film and some curiousity. Very campy, with some stuff that didn't work at all for me. The ending was just too random how Ed Hermann was killed. How did Bernard Hughes even know what was going on? The teenage vampire hunters. Abd they were prepping for a battle. Why not holy water - water balloons? Booby traps, not just poorly working squirt guns?But it had Corey Haim AND Corey Feldman in it!!!!! How could an 80's movie go wrong with that formula?
Doesn't grandpa know all about the vampire infestation in the town from the start? He probably figured out what was going on from the older brother's actions.Not that campy-ness always needs explaining though.

Patience
07-06-2010, 11:13 AM
But it had Corey Haim AND Corey Feldman in it!!!!! How could an 80's movie go wrong with that formula?

The Corey thing had a reverse appeal for me. if anything. Now for Feldman & Sutherland - I would rather watch Stand By Me. Glad Haim didn't have the Will Wheaton role

Doesn't grandpa know all about the vampire infestation in the town from the start? He probably figured out what was going on from the older brother's actions.Not that campy-ness always needs explaining though.

He knew about the vampires, but he didn't join the fight, or have any precautions in the house we know of. He was gone for at least an hour, let us say he knew there was no date and realized it must be vampire trouble at the house. But to crash through the wall, and send wood flying to kill the one bad guy and hurt no one else, just in the knick of time? Too much and too easy

Patience
07-06-2010, 01:32 PM
Banshun: (or anyone else with insight)

There are 62 winners (honorary or awarded) Oscar winners for best foreign language film. Of these 33 are not already on my list and/or I have not already seen. So, since they are not on my pretentious 1001 list or ARoTS pretentious 100 list - I am wondering if it is worth adding to my viewing. So many foreign films are listed, many not even nominated, I wonder if there is enough of a flaw in the system.

Any way your opinion is welcome. These are the movies (nominated name) (release name) (oscar year)

Shoe-Shine {Sciuscià} 1947
Monsieur Vincent {Monsieur Vincent} 1948
Walls of Malapaga, The {Au-delà des grilles !French {Le mura di Malapaga}} 1950
Gate of Hell {Jigokumon} 1954
Samurai, The Legend of Musashi {Miyamoto Musashi} 1955
Virgin Spring, The {Jungfrukällan} 1960
Sundays and Cybele {Les Dimanches de Ville d'Avray} 1962
Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow {Ieri, oggi, domani} 1964
Man and a Woman, A {Un homme et une femme} 1966
War and Peace {Voyna i mir} 1968
Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion {Indagine su un cittadino al di sopra di ogni sospetto} 1970
Black and White in Color {La Victoire en chantant [M]} 1976
Madame Rosa {La Vie devant soi} 1977
Get Out Your Handkerchiefs {Préparez vos mouchoirs} 1978
Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears {Moskva slezam ne verit} 1980
Mephisto {Mephisto} 1981
Volver a Empezar ('To Begin Again') {Volver a empezar} 1982
Dangerous Moves {La Diagonale du fou} 1984
Assault, The {De Aanslag} 1986
Pelle the Conqueror {Pelle Erobreren} 1988
Journey of Hope {Reise der Hoffnung} 1990
Mediterraneo {Mediterraneo} 1991
Indochine {Indochine} 1992
Belle Époque {Belle Époque} 1993
Burnt by the Sun {Utomlyonnye solntsem} 1994
Antonia's Line {Antonia} 1995
Kolya {Kolja} 1996
Character {Karakter} 1997
Nowhere in Africa {Nirgendwo in Afrika} 2002
Sea Inside, The {Mar adentro} 2004
Counterfeiters, The {Die Fälscher} 2007
Departures {Okuribito} 2008
Secret in Their Eyes, The {El secreto de sus ojos} 2009

3rookie
07-06-2010, 01:55 PM
Add these 33 to your viewing. No question. I'm pleasantly surprised that some that I loved from this list actually won Oscars.

banshun
07-06-2010, 02:19 PM
I’ll see all of these eventually. I'll them up into recommendations for you given what I know…

You should see – movies I like and recommend
Shoe-Shine {Sciuscià} 1947
Samurai, The Legend of Musashi {Miyamoto Musashi} 1955 (part of a trilogy)
Indochine {Indochine} 1992
Burnt by the Sun {Utomlyonnye solntsem} 1994

You should see – movies I didn’t like but recommend because of their fame
Virgin Spring, The {Jungfrukällan} 1960 <- This is the odd Bergman that I don’t like much but it’s famous & influential enough that I would include it.
Man and a Woman, A {Un homme et une femme} 1966 – I hated this one but recommend seeing it due to its popularity. I don't think you'll like it.

You should see – movies I didn’t like much but recommend because I think you might like it more than I did.
Journey of Hope {Reise der Hoffnung} 1990 – you might like this but it didn’t leave much of a

You should see – movies I haven’t seen but am avidly looking forward to
Sundays and Cybele {Les Dimanches de Ville d'Avray} 1962 – would love to see this but not sure how I will get a hold of it.
War and Peace {Voyna i mir} 1968 – I haven’t seen it yet but will. It’s very long but supposed to be a spectacular adaptation of this long book.
Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion {Indagine su un cittadino al di sopra di ogni sospetto} 1970
Black and White in Color {La Victoire en chantant [M]} 1976
Madame Rosa {La Vie devant soi} 1977
Get Out Your Handkerchiefs {Préparez vos mouchoirs} 1978
Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears {Moskva slezam ne verit} 1980
Mephisto {Mephisto} 1981
Assault, The {De Aanslag} 1986

Not good enough (imo) to recommend you add to your gigantic list
Monsieur Vincent {Monsieur Vincent} 1948
Walls of Malapaga, The {Au-delà des grilles !French {Le mura di Malapaga}} 1950
Gate of Hell {Jigokumon} 1954
Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow {Ieri, oggi, domani} 1964 – Sophia Loren and Marcello Mastoianni are always worth the time but I don’t like all of this one well enough to add it to your list.
Mediterraneo {Mediterraneo} 1991
Character {Karakter} 1997

Haven’t seen – and don’t know much about so can’t even suggest that you ought to be interested
Volver a Empezar ('To Begin Again') {Volver a empezar} 1982
Dangerous Moves {La Diagonale du fou} 1984
Pelle the Conqueror {Pelle Erobreren} 1988
Belle Époque {Belle Époque} 1993
Antonia's Line {Antonia} 1995
Kolya {Kolja} 1996
Nowhere in Africa {Nirgendwo in Afrika} 2002
Sea Inside, The {Mar adentro} 2004
Counterfeiters, The {Die Fälscher} 2007
Departures {Okuribito} 2008
Secret in Their Eyes, The {El secreto de sus ojos} 2009

Patience
07-06-2010, 02:28 PM
since you only eliminate 6, I might as well add them all

Thanks

banshun
07-06-2010, 02:29 PM
That's the spirit!

Patience
07-07-2010, 10:01 AM
That's the spirit!

so my list has grown by 33 movies.

Broken Blossoms (1919) (1001, ARoTS) I will spoil this all and do a second layer of spoilers for plot give-a-way.

I will start by saying I am not a movie historian and all the movies I have seen before 1925 are DW Griffith, so it is hard to judge how good he is. My biggest issues are I feel he overly narrates. He states the obvious and gets too flowery doing it. The actors can do fine conveying what we are seeing. It is almost an implication he feels the audience is dumb. I also feel like he does little research beyond what the everyman on the street thinks and that is a shame because he does attempt to be worldly.

I think Lillian Gish portrayed her pain and lonliness beautifully. She didn't do a lot after the silent era, but was an American icon, and lived to almost 100. Donald Crisp made a lot of movies well after the silent era and is quite recognizable.

as for the movie, I liked it. It had a solid story, though a bit simplistic and one dimensional and was of reasonable length. I hated that he called her "white blossom" half way through the movie, it became painfully obvious as to the conclusion. It wasn't needed. It bothered me the peaceful man of Buddha had a gun. I believe he tried to convey the Chinese as a peaceful people and the Londoners as brutes and low lifes, and the priest going to China to convert the heathens was a nice irony. But we only met two Chinese and Evil Eye was not a good peaceful man. So I am not sure if it was meant as a compliment to the culture or just the person. especially as they got into the opium smoking. They downplayed the visible brutality, which was probably needed. I really wanted him to know martial arts, and beat up the boxer. All in all a solid film and I need to see more from that early era to truly judge. Griffith seems to try and impart a moral story in movies, but tends to do it a bit heavy handedly. Again, I need more of the era

banshun
07-07-2010, 02:55 PM
Broken Blossoms

Watching the Griffith movies was like eating vegetables. I watched them because he had such a profound impact on film but disliked the experience for all of the reasons that you mention. Broken Blossoms is his biggest ‘artistic’ statement but, as you’ve pointed out, there’s excessive emoting on every point throughout it. It’s too bad that this is what people generally think of as silent film acting. There were many movies with far more restrained acting styles. I number some silents among my all-time favorites but find these Griffith movies tough going. The film by him I like the best is one called Orphans of the Storm with Lillian and Dorothy Gish as sisters during the French Revolution. Way Down East was decent, too. I agree with you that Gish is very good in Broken Blossoms. Here greatest acting may be in The Wind from 1928. It’s nice to see here years later in The Night of the Hunter. The scene in which she hides in the closet while her drunken, abusive father rampages outside is justly celebrated.

Patience
07-07-2010, 03:17 PM
Broken Blossoms

Watching the Griffith movies was like eating vegetables. I watched them because he had such a profound impact on film but disliked the experience for all of the reasons that you mention. Broken Blossoms is his biggest ‘artistic’ statement but, as you’ve pointed out, there’s excessive emoting on every point throughout it. It’s too bad that this is what people generally think of as silent film acting. There were many movies with far more restrained acting styles. I number some silents among my all-time favorites but find these Griffith movies tough going. The film by him I like the best is one called Orphans of the Storm with Lillian and Dorothy Gish as sisters during the French Revolution. Way Down East was decent, too. I agree with you that Gish is very good in Broken Blossoms. Here greatest acting may be in The Wind from 1928. It’s nice to see here years later in The Night of the Hunter. The scene in which she hides in the closet while her drunken, abusive father rampages outside is justly celebrated.

and you can only imagine how powerful it all was at the time

btw, all the ones you mention are on my list, though of the Griffith's Blossoms may be the only under 2 1/2 hours. It was a very tidy 90 minutes

banshun
07-07-2010, 03:24 PM
One other thing to mention on Broken Blossoms - Griffith caught a lot of flack for his unenlightened take on race in Birth of a Nation. Intolerance was made as an answer to the criticism he received. I haven't read this specifically but I imagine that Broken Blossoms and it's sensitivity to race comes as a result of the sting of the earlier criticism.

Patience
07-07-2010, 03:28 PM
One other thing to mention on Broken Blossoms - Griffith caught a lot of flack for his unenlightened take on race in Birth of a Nation. Intolerance was made as an answer to the criticism he received. I haven't read this specifically but I imagine that Broken Blossoms and it's sensitivity to race comes as a result of the sting of the earlier criticism.

Possibly, though "Yellow man", "Evil eye" and chink, aren't the most flattering ways to refer to them. and again, he spect a bit of time on the opium dens. I felt like he elevated Yellow man, above the race, though he seemed to praise those who follow Budha. I accept chink and even when she says "why are you so nice to me, chinky" as ignorant terms of the day being used by the locals

As an aside, and I notice this is other silents as well. Why so many nicknames and descriptives - rather than giving a character a name?

banshun
07-07-2010, 03:30 PM
You got me there. I am not sure.

Patience
07-10-2010, 09:46 AM
Last night was favorite stars and award winning music

Love is a Many Slendored Thing (1955) (Best Pic Nom) First I am a huge William Holden fan. Second I do not like romance movies. It had exotic settings and was not overly soapy in feeling. But #2 wins out. This did not do it for me. Very heavily nominated for the Oscars. Picture, actress, costume, music.

The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) (1001, 500) Hitchcock's remake of his own 1930's film is a very solid spy movie. A huge Jimmy Stewart fan. His marriage to Doris Day had a ring of truth to it, neither too much in love with occasional squabbles. When she sang Que Sera Sera, I thought how cute to work that in, not realizing this is where she first became associated with the song. For a story of the everyday man dealing with things beyond his control, it was all very believable in what he accomplished - without climbing monuments or beating up professionals.

banshun
07-10-2010, 10:03 AM
I haven't seen Love is a Many Splendored Thing. I was surprised last time that I saw The Man Who Knew Too Much how much I liked it. I switched my thinking from the previous opinion that the 1930s version was superior. Hitchcock was at the top of his game in the 1950s and this comes smack in the middle of his most creative period. The storytelling is so smooth and comfortably Hitchcockian that it's a fun popcorn film throughout. An aside - there's a quick comment made in the restaurant about rock and roll music, which is one of the earliest mentions of it that I've seen in film, and of course, the point is to ridicule it. It was a number of years before the old guard making movies began to take the new music seriously.

Patience
07-10-2010, 10:38 AM
I haven't seen Love is a Many Splendored Thing. I was surprised last time that I saw The Man Who Knew Too Much how much I liked it. I switched my thinking from the previous opinion that the 1930s version was superior. Hitchcock was at the top of his game in the 1950s and this comes smack in the middle of his most creative period. The storytelling is so smooth and comfortably Hitchcockian that it's a fun popcorn film throughout. An aside - there's a quick comment made in the restaurant about rock and roll music, which is one of the earliest mentions of it that I've seen in film, and of course, the point is to ridicule it. It was a number of years before the old guard making movies began to take the new music seriously.

I remember a comment on bebop, don't remember mention of rock and roll

Patience
07-10-2010, 10:42 AM
The Lavendar Hill Mob (1951) (1001) An excellent Alec Guiness caper movie. Not much more needs to be said. Very Brittish and quite funny. He was nominated for this role.

banshun
07-10-2010, 12:04 PM
I thought the comment was referring to this song (or at least style)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be-Bop-A-Lula
Since the movie and the song are both 1956, it's not likely, unless it's a last minute ad lib/script addition.
So, maybe it is referring to jazz after all...

Patience
07-10-2010, 12:13 PM
Compulsion (1959) (500) Ok, this is a fiction based on the Leopold and Loeb case of the early 1920's. I read the book 30+ years ago. Very compelling psychological drama. Let me also say I was a Clarence Darrow groupie and loved this book, as well as Inherit the Wind, play and movie. As for Leoplold & Loeb, Rope captures the psychological feeling much better. Orson Welles as Darrow is excellent, though still prefer Tracy. They overplayed the intial portion too much and it just didn't grab me. Welles and his closing speech was the best part.

Patience
07-10-2010, 12:14 PM
I thought the comment was referring to this song (or at least style)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be-Bop-A-Lula
Since the movie and the song are both 1956, it's not likely, unless it's a last minute ad lib/script addition.
So, maybe it is referring to jazz after all...

In context I assumed the style, but who can say what was a relavent topical comment 50 years ago

Patience
07-10-2010, 04:03 PM
The Kid (1921) (400, IMDB) For as much as Griffith talks too much, Chaplain minimizes and it works. He is a pleasure to watch. The child was excellect as well and for those who don't know he grows up to be Uncle Fester. Many people think of Chaplain as slapstick, but really these are very sweet stories. A very neat 50 minutes. I liked this simple story a bit more than City Lights or Modern Times. Gold Rush had a bit more schtick and action. As an aside I am wearing my Modern Times watch my kids gave me.

banshun
07-10-2010, 06:07 PM
I liked The Lavender Hill Mob (and all of the Ealing comedies). Also, liked The Kid a lot, and always like Chaplin so no surprise there. I liked Compulsion, too.

Patience
07-11-2010, 05:36 PM
Nosferatu, A Symphony of Terror (1922) (1001, ARoTS) nothing to spoil here as I am sure all are aware of the plot line. For the time I am sure this was quite scary, and when my cable went out with 3 minutes left I was very into it. The early movies seem to have a lack of blood and real violence. The terrible werewolf was a hyena and to be a vampire is not an obvious monster, but quite human in appearance, actually charming. The fact this was based on Dracula, but so different, with no real personality for Count Olaf all left me quite disappointed. Again this is all from experiences and stories from many years later and I am sure in context of the time this was quite terrifying.

The Cheat (1915) (400) After 3 DW Griffiths, A horror film and a bunch of comedies I really wanted another drama from this early era. I enjoyed this film. Interesting plot, theft, infidelity, attempted rape. Spoiled rich women from Long Island, noble hardworking husbands and an interesting courtroom scene.

and an Asian Character, played by an Asian without one racial slur in the entire film, even though he was not a nice person (DWG you know I am talking about you) and no extreme close-ups of horror or pain. Produced by Cecil B DeMille, so known for his epics. Maybe it is perspective from the time but no idea why DWG so highly acclaimed and this film has so little notice, though nice recognition for the 400, surprised not considered one of the 50 best courtrooms scenes

banshun
07-11-2010, 10:27 PM
I need to see Nosferatu again. I don't remember much but I'm a Murnau fan so I need to see it again.

I'm with you on DeMille. I like his silent movies more than his 1950s bloated behemoths. Cleopatra (you have to be willing to accept New Yorker Claudette Colbert as Cleopatra, but it's so wrong that it becomes part of the entertainment), The King of Kings, and The Ten Commandments (1923) are all very entertaining. I liked The Cheat, as well. Much more entertaining than you'd think a 1915 movie would be. Although there are not racial slurs, the movie gets some grief for making the Asian lead such an insidious Asian chap.
From the did ya know department - the actor who plays him is the camp commander in Bridge on the River Kwai.

Patience
07-12-2010, 09:46 AM
I need to see Nosferatu again. I don't remember much but I'm a Murnau fan so I need to see it again.

I'm with you on DeMille. I like his silent movies more than his 1950s bloated behemoths. Cleopatra (you have to be willing to accept New Yorker Claudette Colbert as Cleopatra, but it's so wrong that it becomes part of the entertainment), The King of Kings, and The Ten Commandments (1923) are all very entertaining. I liked The Cheat, as well. Much more entertaining than you'd think a 1915 movie would be. Although there are not racial slurs, the movie gets some grief for making the Asian lead such an insidious Asian chap.
From the did ya know department - the actor who plays him is the camp commander in Bridge on the River Kwai.

cool "did ya know" need to tell my daughter. It didn't bother me that the Asian was a bad chap, as it never seemed it was because he was Asian. and it added that even though he was a part of their society he was still an outsider to some degree.

As for Colbert, is she any worse than Liz Taylor in that role? Looks like Angelina Jolie will be giving it a try next year. I see Vivian Leigh played her in the 40's. I would actually bet on Angelina pulling it off the best of this bunch (and don't get me wrong I respect their acting talents, but it is such a hard role to mix the period and the modern and not seem too silly either way)

banshun
07-12-2010, 10:04 AM
There was so much over-the-top oddness in the DeMille version that Colbert's Manhattan waitress take on the Queen of the Nile fit the production and provided just one more facet to chuckle at and admire it for. Taylor could act (she's phenomenal in Virginia Woolf - have you seen it?) but, yeah, a bit out of place, except that Burton and she fit like a glove and you couldn't swap her out of the movie without swapping him out as well.

Patience
07-12-2010, 10:16 AM
There was so much over-the-top oddness in the DeMille version that Colbert's Manhattan waitress take on the Queen of the Nile fit the production and provided just one more facet to chuckle at and admire it for. Taylor could act (she's phenomenal in Virginia Woolf - have you seen it?) but, yeah, a bit out of place, except that Burton and she fit like a glove and you couldn't swap her out of the movie without swapping him out as well.

I think Taylor is a fantastic actress, (seen VW, Cat on A Hot Tin Roof, Giant, A Place In The Sun, Father of the Bride & Dividend, National Velvet and a few i am missing, I am sure or not listing - Flintstones) actually a bit under rated which happens when you are so measured by your looks. But was awful as Cleopatra. Then again Edgar G Robinson didn't exactly work in Ten Commandments

Alto Reed on a Tenor Sax
07-13-2010, 02:18 PM
Broken Blossoms (1919) (1001, ARoTS) I will spoil this all and do a second layer of spoilers for plot give-a-way.

I really wanted him to know martial arts, and beat up the boxer. All in all a solid film and I need to see more from that early era to truly judge. Griffith seems to try and impart a moral story in movies, but tends to do it a bit heavy handedly. Again, I need more of the era[/spoiler]:lol: I totally thought that's what was going to happen!


As an aside, and I notice this is other silents as well. Why so many nicknames and descriptives - rather than giving a character a name?In this movie, my take would be...making the characters be "characters" rather than "people" emphasizes the timelessness of these roles. Broken Blossoms plot is an archetype, and the roles therein are as old as drama itself.

I don't know if I can generalize that to other movies, because it does happen in other silents. What is the virtue of calling Chaplin's character "The Tramp," rather than naming him? Is Clint Eastwood's nameless character more potent in his spaghetti western trilogy for lacking a name, or less so? Food for thought.

Patience
07-13-2010, 11:02 PM
To Be Or Not To Be (1942) (1001, 400, ARoTS) Let me start by saying I was a fan of the 1983 version, Charles Durning an Oscar nom and Anne Bancroft who few knew was an hysterically funny person in real life, getting to exercise her comedy chops, even in The Graduate she was not a comic actress. I didn't feel anything I left open would ruin the movie.

I loved the original, especially when you realize that it was released early 1942 as a war comedy. Jack Benny (Benny Kubelsky) is someone I always thought as a stand-up more than an actor, (ok, as a kid I would watch The Horn Blows At Midnight, from my parents bed forcing to stay up for New Years, but he plays this beautifully and I love the comic timing between he and Lombard. He usually just plays Jack Benny, and you see his trademark mannerisms, but it is more. You really need to pay attention when he speaks, especially after Sobinski returns. Some very funny lines could get lost. A very young Elliot Ness mostly plays it straight as does Siletsky which helps elevate the comedy. Sig Ruman who spends so much time yelling Schultz, played Schultz in Stalag 17 - a decade later, which was the inspiration for Hogan's Heroes (for those who don't get the latter Schultz reference). This is an excellent satire and it seems to get better as it rolls along.

Also, it felt to be a very stagey film, people walked off the camera, more than the camera followed them. This seemed to work very well as it is about a theature troop. This was especially true with the death of Siletsky Not sure if I am reading too much into this.

also from IMDB Unfortunately, at its release, Pearl Harbor had been attacked, Germany was sweeping across Europe, and the film's star, Carole Lombard, was killed in a plane crash while on a war-bond selling tour. Therefore, neither critics nor public were in the mood to laugh, finding the picture tasteless and callous. Over the years, however, it recovered its production costs and became a classic."

Patience
07-14-2010, 09:53 AM
An additional point on TBONTB

I don't believe they ever spoke about Jewish issues. This was a war of countries. They spoke of concentration camps, which I thought was strange they would use that terminology - as opposed to work camp or detention center. But it was for all the citizens, not a Jewish issue - I believe.

Anyway Greenberg - an obviously Jewish name. To be obvious from the Polish names which may or may not be Jewish. and his comment that he doesn't eat ham. Jack Benny orders a salami and cheese, which I took as his way of saying he wasn't Jewish. The Shylock speeches and the end where I believe it is his Jewishness, as much as just coming out of the ladies' room. But I don't believe the word Jew or Jewish was ever said. Nothing about rounding up the Jews was ever said. Was it unknown? Was it needed to be done subtly to avoid crossing into true bad taste?

banshun
07-14-2010, 10:23 AM
Very glad you loved this one. I've seen a rare reaction on occasion that the film is in poor taste, but for most people he makes the concept of it work while still showing respect to the seriousness of the times. I don't have any answers regarding the lack of the word 'Jew' in the film. I thought that it was inferred strongly at times. I think there was a lot of caution in Hollywood about creating any waves with any group, regardless that history has shown that their approach was too cautious. This movie premiered on February 15 1942 so it was probably already nearly assembled during the Pearl Harbor attack. Had this been made a year later, they might have been more explicit. Then again, the film has to walk such a slender thread of a tightrope that these changes to the script may very well have made it not work.

Patience
07-14-2010, 11:04 AM
Very glad you loved this one. I've seen a rare reaction on occasion that the film is in poor taste, but for most people he makes the concept of it work while still showing respect to the seriousness of the times. I don't have any answers regarding the lack of the word 'Jew' in the film. I thought that it was inferred strongly at times. I think there was a lot of caution in Hollywood about creating any waves with any group, regardless that history has shown that their approach was too cautious. This movie premiered on February 15 1942 so it was probably already nearly assembled during the Pearl Harbor attack. Had this been made a year later, they might have been more explicit. Then again, the film has to walk such a slender thread of a tightrope that these changes to the script may very well have made it not work.

less bad taste then a number of Mel Brook's films (Springtime for Hitler, the remake of this, The Spanish Inquisition in History of the World) -- too many people are too thin skinned, though I could understand the feeling at the time.

and also, consider the source - Lubitsch was a German Jew

also from IMDB Took his father to see To Be or Not to Be (1942), but he left the theatre disgusted when he saw Jack in a Nazi uniform. It wasn't until years later that Jack finally managed to convince him that he was making fun of Nazis not supporting them. His father saw the movie again and loved it.

Patience
07-17-2010, 04:37 PM
Nanook of the North (1922) (1001) Many sources list this as the first documentary. Interestingly the film maker was up north and was filming the eskimoos he was living with, but the film was destroyed so he went back and decided to focus on one family. There is many enjoyable and interesting scenes of northern life, but it was all staged and one woman wasn't actually his wife. Sort a Man vs Wild (with family) scenerio. Gets a little tedious, but interesting just the same, especially with how much more sheltered the general population was from this type of story. This was such new stuff.

We find out at the beginning that the main character starved to death on ahunting trip just a few months after.

There was no dialogue, just naration. Now we know that original movies were silent with live music. Then soundtracks were added, but talkies were hard due to sync and actually picking up voices. Anyway - I was wondering if on a documentary like this if anyone ever considered a voice over recording with the music.

As an aside several Chaplin films offered a voice over option instead of cards (done by Charlie, though I assume at a later date.

Patience
07-18-2010, 11:05 AM
Rashomon (1950) (1001, IMDB, Best Foreign, ARoTS) Excellent film, beautifully filmed, great camera angles and use of lighting. It has been done so many times since, not sure how many before - a murder told from different perspectives. Told through remembrances while waiting out a storm and in the intergegation from unseen and unheard police.

What makes it more interesting is it is not about the murder. It is a vehicle for reflections of life and people as the three waiting out the storm are an optimist, a pessimist and a realist on views of man and truth.

banshun
07-19-2010, 09:34 AM
Rashomon

Rashomon is famous for its multiple perspectives on the event, none of which quite jibe with the others (thus making it a meditation on the elusive nature of truth). It’s very entertaining, with that amazing storytelling that Kurosawa had in which his camerawork and editing just grab you and lead you through the story with no effort. Almost all of his 1950s movies are very worthwhile, with several masterpieces scattered among them. That tracking shot of the sun through the trees as a stand-in for the rape is a famous one. The only facet that misses for me is Toshira Mifune’s crazy acting. I’ve read that he was given the direction to act like a tiger but it always seems a bit silly to me. He’s different in the remembrances of each of the participants and it’s his sequence in which he remembers his actions through his own vanity that seems silly to me rather than boastful. This movie was the big Japanese crossover hit to US audiences & helped boost the foreign film art house circuit.

Nanook
I think there’s a lot to admire in Nanook. Getting the camera crew to the frozen tundra and filming this was quite an achievement. Then, there’s the other side which carps about the staging of the events. I think I’ve settled at the point at which I believe that the staged events are really no less ‘true’ than the events that often pass for truth in unstaged documentaries, which no less frame their subject, select the scenes to be edited together, and decide where to place their own trust. In addition, I like considering that the American public first had a chance to journey vicariously to a place they’d never see otherwise in their lifetimes.

Patience
07-20-2010, 07:10 AM
Rashomon

Rashomon is famous for its multiple perspectives on the event, none of which quite jibe with the others (thus making it a meditation on the elusive nature of truth). It’s very entertaining, with that amazing storytelling that Kurosawa had in which his camerawork and editing just grab you and lead you through the story with no effort. Almost all of his 1950s movies are very worthwhile, with several masterpieces scattered among them. That tracking shot of the sun through the trees as a stand-in for the rape is a famous one. The only facet that misses for me is Toshira Mifune’s crazy acting. I’ve read that he was given the direction to act like a tiger but it always seems a bit silly to me. He’s different in the remembrances of each of the participants and it’s his sequence in which he remembers his actions through his own vanity that seems silly to me rather than boastful. This movie was the big Japanese crossover hit to US audiences & helped boost the foreign film art house circuit.

Agree on Mifune. imo he was too crazy, and dirty to be the type of "bad guy" who could easily seduce the "bored housewife". As for he in the remembrances, I felt all three came out of the "true" story looking weak and greatly flawed and instead of completely rewriting the story, they wanted to add some nobility to the end. What I couldn't figure was why a famous bandit and a guy in a samuri hat were incapable of fighting. At first they were reluctant, but it became kill or be killed. So that means both lived lies and even the bandit was not accomplished.


Nanook
I think there’s a lot to admire in Nanook. Getting the camera crew to the frozen tundra and filming this was quite an achievement. Then, there’s the other side which carps about the staging of the events. I think I’ve settled at the point at which I believe that the staged events are really no less ‘true’ than the events that often pass for truth in unstaged documentaries, which no less frame their subject, select the scenes to be edited together, and decide where to place their own trust. In addition, I like considering that the American public first had a chance to journey vicariously to a place they’d never see otherwise in their lifetimes.

I agree completely. Today they would have revealed it was staged in the credits. Still something amazing to see for that period

Patience
07-20-2010, 07:39 AM
Battleship Potemkin, The (1925) (1001, ARoTS) wow, very powerful. remember all the comments about this era downplaying the violence and blood - Not in Russia. Including shooting and trampling a child then shooting his mother holding the baby as she protests to the soldiers.

I have no idea why the religious fanatic was on the ship. At first I thought he was imagry, but he was very real - on a war vessel.

Second I was intrigued at the rally when the workers are coming together, one well dressed man tries to get calm and yelled to "crush the Jews" (forgot to write down the exact verb} and the crowd turns on him and pummels him down. Not exactly sure of the sentiment at the time. The director was named Eisenstein.

Lastly the Red flag was visually amazing. Not sure if anything like that had been done before.

Man with the Movie Camera, The (1929) (1001, ARoTS)
this one I took notes and like a piece of art, you will or will not appreciate this no sets, no actors, no dialogue

Starts with theature special effects as the audience comes in. Then I thought it was just artistic shots, but you realize and there is a theme and you are seeing the town asleep. and they run through other themes of waking, getting the world in focus, machinery, the fast pace of the world, communication, transportation, vacation, recreation, marriage, divorce death and life (very vividly).

But you are not actually watching what the "man" is filming as you can see him filming, even in the final product.

I liked it, but like Fantasia, I sometimes wished it would move on


Sunshine Cleaning (2009) (cheap puchase 7-11) Great length for watching on a plane. Very enjoyable film. Likeable characters, a familiar story - but done uniquely at least in terms of the career choice.

The Hangover (2009)(SSH top 20 (or however many there are)) - I expected more. Maybe being overhyped ruined it for me. and I figured out where Doug was.

banshun
07-20-2010, 10:24 AM
The Battleship Potemkin
You’ll see that Odessa stairs scene referenced often in movies - a familiar example is The Untouchables (remember the baby carriage & the slow-mo shootout? His two Ivan the Terrible movies in the 1940s are of a different style than the silent era ones and are fascinating in their own way.

The Man with the Movie Camera
like a piece of art, you will or will not appreciate this
Yes! Really, some people won’t get this movie no matter how much its explained to them. Others won’t understand what’s not to get.
I liked it, but like Fantasia, I sometimes wished it would move on
I agree here as well. OK, we get the point. Move along now.

Patience
07-21-2010, 03:12 PM
Inglorious Basterds (2009) (Best Pic Nom, IMDB) I liked it, but wanted more. I just felt no connection to the characters and felt it just didn't flow well or as quirky as I expected. I liked the first two scenes a lot and it had a very spaghetti western feel to me, and would have preferred if that played throughout. Plus I found the subtitles to be too quick in many instances

The Boy In The Strped Pajamas (2009) (cheap DVD good length for a flight) I thought this was a very interesting and unique perspective of concentration camps as seen through innocent outside eyes.

Patience
07-22-2010, 09:58 AM
Foolish Wives (1923) (1001) ok, first this was done by Erich von Streiheim best know for Max in Sunset Blvd.

2nd the original production was 8 hours long, cut down to 3 1/2 hours by the studio. What I watched was a restored version of 2 1/2 hours - which I thought was the full length and when I heard it was cut to 1/3 I thought it was cut down to 45-50 minutes -- which in all honesty would have been perfect. IMDB list the American version at 117 ,minutes - so maybe this was the Canadian, which I wish I knew when I started this at 10:00. IMDB trivia also says it was 6 hrs editted to 130 minutes.

It was a good plot, counterfeiting, seducing rich women for money, monte carlo. But I was bored. I believe the dialogue was actually funny and witty, but I kept missing it because the scenes were endless with nothing of note happening. and the dialogue was very minimized at points as well.

I believe this was the first $1m production ($250k budget) and the film made a profit

some cool stuff off the trivia
The most expensive part of the movie were the lavish sets, built at Universal Studios in California. The sets featured a full exterior replica of Monte-Carlo, complete with an artificial lake. The total cost of the sets was $421,000. Stroheim said in an interview that he ought to know what Monte Carlo looked like, for he had been "busted there twice."

As the production costs of the movie skyrocketed, Universal Pictures attempted to gain some publicity for the film. The studio erected an electronic sign on a rooftop overlooking Broadway, across the street from its New York offices. The sign read "Universal Pictures and Erich von Stroheim will spend $XXX,XXX to entertain you with 'Foolish Wives.'" Each week, the numbers of the production costs were updated on the electronic sign, telling how much more the picture had cost. In the end, the total cost of the film, as reported by Universal, was $1,103,736.38. Stroheim later claimed that the total cost was only around $700,000.

Initially budgeted at $250,000, the film's production soared above $1 million, thanks to Stroheim's excesses. Beginning in July, 1920, Stroheim filmed the movie over 11 months, until he was taken off the picture in June, 1921. Afraid that the movie might bankrupt Universal Studios, Carl Laemmle sent his assistant, 21-year-old Irving Thalberg, from New York to Hollywood to try to get Stroheim to finish the film. When Thalberg threatened to replace Stroheim with another director, Stroheim laughed in his face, pointing out that he was the star of the movie as well as the director. If he were replaced, the movie would never be finished. However, Thalberg outsmarted Stroheim. He carefully watched production on the picture and, when he thought enough footage had been shot to make up a story, took Stroheim's cameras away, reminding the director that they were studio property. For proving his mettle against Stroheim, Laemmle made Thalberg the new head of production at Universal Pictures.

Stroheim's excesses on the film also included ordering lavish evening gowns from Paris, silk stockings, and monogrammed silk underwear for his actors to wear so they could "feel more like aristocrats." He decorated his sets with real porcelain, tapestries, and crystal chandeliers. At banquet scenes, he insisted on using real champagne and caviar. When asked by a studio executive why he couldn't substitute ginger ale and blackberry jam as props for the champagne and caviar, Stroheim replied, "Because my actors will know the difference, I will know the difference, and the camera will know the difference."

banshun
07-22-2010, 10:46 AM
I like this one a lot but it's been a while so I don't remember many of the specifics. Von Stroheim career was squelched by the late 1920s due to his blowing the budgets each time out. I'm a fan of most of his directed movies (love his acting in Sunset Blvd. and The Grand Illusion, too). There's a lascivious depth to his movies that you don't get with anyone else. I love the way his movies focus so adriotly on the perverse side of human nature. There's less of this in Foolish Wives than in later movies like Greed and Queen Kelly.

Patience
07-22-2010, 10:50 AM
I like this one a lot but it's been a while so I don't remember many of the specifics. Von Stroheim career was squelched by the late 1920s due to his blowing the budgets each time out. I'm a fan of most of his directed movies (love his acting in Sunset Blvd. and The Grand Illusion, too). There's a lascivious depth to his movies that you don't get with anyone else. I love the way his movies focus so adriotly on the perverse side of human nature. There's less of this in Foolish Wives than in later movies like Greed and Queen Kelly.

Greed is on the list - Queen Kelly is not, but looks intriguing - especially with Miss Swanson

Gran Illusion also on the list

banshun
07-22-2010, 11:29 AM
One neat thing about Queen Kelly is it's connection to Sunset Blvd. so worth finding if you can, but its unfinished unfortunately. What's there is fascinating.

The neat twist is that Von Stroheim was the tyrannical director of Gloria Swanson in Queen Kelly, but in Sunset Blvd. her character had all of the power in their relationship and he is her butler. The old film footage they're watching in Sunset Blvd. is from Queen Kelly.

I *am* big. It's the *pictures* that got small.

Patience
07-22-2010, 11:48 AM
One neat thing about Queen Kelly is it's connection to Sunset Blvd. so worth finding if you can, but its unfinished unfortunately. What's there is fascinating.

The neat twist is that Von Stroheim was the tyrannical director of Gloria Swanson in Queen Kelly, but in Sunset Blvd. her character had all of the power in their relationship and he is her butler. The old film footage they're watching in Sunset Blvd. is from Queen Kelly.

Of course you don't know what their relationship was when he was still directing her. and her power in Sunset was not that he was being dominated, he was fully aware (possibly the only one who was) and was happy to do it to keep her happy. When her power was real, it is possible he used exerted his power over her as well and needed to to control her. But he couldn't see her as weak and did everything in his power to make her believe she still was who she used to be

banshun
07-22-2010, 12:01 PM
I agree completely about Sunset. He played the role of the subservient butler but really wielded considerable power and created a cushion for her to live her fantasy. He had the rep of a tyrannical director in the 1920s but since Swanson was having an affair with Joseph Kennedy who was financing Queen Kelly, I don't think that she had to put up with too much from him.

Patience
07-25-2010, 01:33 PM
Cabin in The Sky (1943) (400) All black cast - musical / fantasy. Based on a show, a bit stagey - but with Ethel Waters, Lena Horne, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington - and a bunch of very talented lessor names - very entertaining. Add in Eddie 'Rochester" Anderson and Butterfly McQueen

Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain {Amelie} (2001) (1001, IMDB) An enjoyable and quirky film that is just a pleasure. Nominated for 5 oscars (can't find the most nominated foreign language film - a few have won 3). and I believe the inspiration for Travocity's roaming gnome, but was not the best foreign language film.

banshun
07-25-2010, 07:34 PM
I loved Cabin in the Sky & am glad you found it entertaining!

Patience
07-26-2010, 09:51 AM
I loved Cabin in the Sky & am glad you found it entertaining!

I have to admit I almost missed the very end. It was 98 minutes starting at 10:00 and Amelie started at 11:40 - but Cabin was on TCM and I forgot about the beginning small talk. But was able to do some quick flips and lose little if anything from both films.

An enjoyable showcase of talent. I am curious how many mainstream white people went to a film like this in 1943. Lena Horne was only 26. Louis Armstrong was 4th bill, but had a very small role.

banshun
07-26-2010, 10:16 AM
It's a great cast. I couldn't even guess as to the demographic pull this movie had region by region. The only moment that dragged for me was in the last hour when it gives the great musicians time to do their stuff. I'm grateful that it's recorded on film and wouldn't take it out of the movie but I was so caught up with Little Joe and Petunia's situation that I didn't want to take a break from their story.

Patience
07-26-2010, 10:49 AM
also, need to note a early (1st) Vicente Minelli and with music by Harold Arlen. Wonder if the obvious Judy Garland connection is coincidence.

Patience
07-26-2010, 11:01 AM
as an aside looking at trivia - I don't believe I ever realized Liza Minelli (daughter of Dorothy) was married to Jack Haley Jr. (son of the Tin Man)

Patience
07-28-2010, 01:37 PM
Zombieland (SSH Top 16 - 2009) - This was a very nice romantic comedy. Not laugh out loud funny, but quite a few chuckles.

Might have been better if Shaun of the Dead wasn't so recent

for what it is worth, the SSH top 16 is the only list that expires. If it is on that and I don't see it before I get a chance to vote I do not keep it on my list.

Guerilla poster
07-28-2010, 01:40 PM
Inglorious Basterds (2009) (Best Pic Nom, IMDB) I liked it, but wanted more. I just felt no connection to the characters and felt it just didn't flow well or as quirky as I expected. I liked the first two scenes a lot and it had a very spaghetti western feel to me, and would have preferred if that played throughout. Plus I found the subtitles to be too quick in many instances

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That is taratino more or less, great at putting scenes and dialogue together but not really into character building/connection. You just have to enjoy the ride.

Patience
07-28-2010, 01:44 PM
That is taratino more or less, great at putting scenes and dialogue together but not really into character building/connection. You just have to enjoy the ride.

the problem was the two stories didn't mesh for me. I either wanted more background on the basterds (and no, I didn't want a 3 hr movie) or a lot less.

In Pulp fiction with all the intertwining stories, I felt they all developed and balanced very well. Maybe if this intertwined more as opposed to just a colission course

Patience
07-30-2010, 10:37 AM
Our Hospitality (1923) (1001) Solid Buster Keaton film, with a very interesting train sequence - quite unlike The General. Very similar to Steamboat Bill Jr as he falls for the daughter of his family's enemy. All in all though I mostly prefer the physical comedy in these early silents, and this one didn't have quite enought until the last part, where it had some amazing sequences. Of the physical comedies (Keaton, Chaplain, LLoyd) on my lists, I believe only Lloyd's Safety Last was released earlier than Our Hospitality.

I am attaching the IMDB trivia as I found it all quite intersting


During the shooting of the climatic waterfall scene, Buster Keaton inhaled so much water that he had to have first aid.

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During the filming of the scene in which Buster Keaton is being swept downstream towards the waterfall, he was attached to a 'holdback' cable, concealed in the river. During the filming of the scene, the cable broke, and he was hurled down the rapids, battered by rocks and limbs, and was only barely able to grab an overhanging branch, which held him just long enough for the crew to reach and rescue him. This scene remains in the final print, and is fairly easy to spot. Just look for the point at which Keaton is being pulled downriver and 1) he suddenly looks back towards the camera, and 2) his speed in the water doubles, almost causing him to fly out of frame.

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The climactic waterfall rescue scenes were filmed on a set built over the swimming pool on the Keaton lot. Production stills kept secret until decades after the film was released show the entire set, including the miniature valley constructed below the pool for the long overlooking shots.

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Joe Roberts, Buster Keaton's career "heavy", made his last appearance in this film. Big Joe suffered a stroke during the filming, and was hospitalized. He insisted on returning to work, however, and died very shortly after the end of filming.
I thought he looked noticably thinner in the later shots
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The diminutive steam engine used in the film was a faithful, mechanically accurate re-creation of Stephenson's Rocket. Equally accurate was the replica of the early bicycle ridden by Willie near the start of the film - so accurate, in fact, that according to Buster Keaton it was requested by the Smithsonian Institute for display. (I was wondering since the bike was peddleless)

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07-30-2010, 10:54 AM
the problem was the two stories didn't mesh for me. I either wanted more background on the basterds (and no, I didn't want a 3 hr movie) or a lot less.

In Pulp fiction with all the intertwining stories, I felt they all developed and balanced very well. Maybe if this intertwined more as opposed to just a colission course


Agree, he has gone downhill since PF. But still enjoy his work more than most of the other stuff out there these days.

Patience
07-30-2010, 11:15 AM
Agree, he has gone downhill since PF. But still enjoy his work more than most of the other stuff out there these days.

define downhill? Pulp Fiction was his masterpiece, if you can't recreate that I don't see it as going downhill

what did he do before besides Reservoir Dogs? After Dusk to Dawn, Kill Bill, Jackie Brown - I liked all those, this one for some reason left me flat.

He hasn't exactly fallen off the cliff, but odds are there won't be an equal to PF

btw Interesting that he wrote Natural Born Killers, but didn't direct or produce it (on my list)

also see a Kill Bill III on the list

banshun
07-30-2010, 11:36 AM
Solid Buster Keaton film, with a very interesting train sequence - quite unlike The General.
Remind me what you thought of The General... Are you saying that The General wasn't solid, didn't have an interesting train sequence, or just had a very different train sequence than Our Hospitality? I like both movies. Keaton could really do no wrong in the 1920s, imo, with only a couple of his short films underwhelming me. I hope you have The Cameraman on one of your lists. Regarding, Our Hospitality, I found the humor which played with the social customs of the south, very funny, and always love the genius physical humor that Keaton sews into all of his films.

Patience
07-31-2010, 10:30 AM
Remind me what you thought of The General... Are you saying that The General wasn't solid, didn't have an interesting train sequence, or just had a very different train sequence than Our Hospitality? I like both movies. Keaton could really do no wrong in the 1920s, imo, with only a couple of his short films underwhelming me. I hope you have The Cameraman on one of your lists. Regarding, Our Hospitality, I found the humor which played with the social customs of the south, very funny, and always love the genius physical humor that Keaton sews into all of his films.

I meant the train sequence was quite different. The Hospitality train was an absurd creation. The Cameraman is not on the list. The General, so far, has been my favorite of his.

Sherlock Jr (1924) (1001, ARoTS) Another solid Keaton. Some of the stunts were just amazing as well as some dream/fantasy sequences that I assume are incredibly original curious as to the originality of the banana peel and fly paper segments

Came as a double feature with Our Hospitality

United 93 (2006) (1001) This was a very hard watch for me. 9/11 was very hard for me and the movie did an excellent job. It never went over the top, either in the grief, the terrorists, or the heroism. So many of those on the ground played themselves. I wished to know more of the individuals, but they avoided phony conversations just to let the audience know stuff. I thought I was ready for this - I was mistaken.

banshun
07-31-2010, 10:25 PM
I like Sherlock Jr a lot as well, and I have The General slotted as my favorite of his. The 'metacinema' aspects of Sherlock Jr are great stuff, and were fairly original, I think, in their complexity. Woody Allen's The Purple Rose of Cairo owes a debt to it. The fly paper gag is a great illustration of how Keaton could take a comic situation and play it brilliantly with a concluding gag that flows effortlessly in its timing and delivery. He was amazing. I also love the turns that the dollar-in-the-trash gag takes. Great stuff!

Patience
08-01-2010, 07:02 AM
I like Sherlock Jr a lot as well, and I have The General slotted as my favorite of his. The 'metacinema' aspects of Sherlock Jr are great stuff, and were fairly original, I think, in their complexity. Woody Allen's The Purple Rose of Cairo owes a debt to it. The fly paper gag is a great illustration of how Keaton could take a comic situation and play it brilliantly with a concluding gag that flows effortlessly in its timing and delivery. He was amazing. I also love the turns that the dollar-in-the-trash gag takes. Great stuff!

A lot of early comedy is not understood because so many people just don't realize how brilliant, fresh and original the routines were, especially after being copied so many times,

Even Abbott and Costello, who have no movies that would be considered "great" - but so many of their routines were absolutely brilliant in their simplicity, especially the word play.

It is also amazing how guys like Keaton were willing to sacrifice their bodies for their craft

Patience
08-01-2010, 08:50 PM
No Man's Land (2001) (1001, Best Foreign Film) Really fascinating look at war. The politics of war are not involved, but more so looks at two individuals - enemies thrown together - plus the politics of the international peace keepers. Truly a different perspective. Very well done ands engrossing.

Patience
08-02-2010, 10:25 AM
Phantom Of The Opera (1925) (1001, 400) I liked this more than Nosferatu. I thought it flowed better, and more suspense than true horror, though I believe his face was shocking at the time on the big screen. Lon Chaney was a genious at doing his own make-up. This movie was complete with the villagers carrying torches chasing the villian, There was also a briliant use of color, which I believe was better at the time.

Several sequences were shot in various color processes for the top general release prints. Technicolor was used for scenes from FAUST and the Bal Masque scene, Prizmacolor sequences were shot for the "Soldier's Night" introduction, and Handschiegel (a process that uses stamps to hand-color prints) for the Phantom's notes and red cape on the rooftop. Only the Technicolor Bal Masque sequence is known to survive (an IB print from the 1929 re-release).


I found it funny that the first word of the movie "Sanctuary" in describing the Opera house is such a pivotal word in Hunchback, Chaney's prior big horror movie.

I did not care for Mary Philbin (female lead - who might have the longest bio I ever saw in IMDB, especially for making 30 films). I just thought she overacted terribly, especially compared to the male leads.

Also, early on there were some real comic moments I have to believe was intentional. The stage hand popping up through a lift and the over reaction the the ghost stories

Patience
08-02-2010, 11:15 PM
Grand Illusion (1937) (1001, Best Pic Nom, ARoTS) Wow, great film. You feel so much that led to Stalag 17 and Great Escape. Just very well done, well acted foreign film. WWI prisoner of war camp, interactions of the prisoners and the ever yearning to escape regardless of how comfortable things are. Plus views of rank, class, religion all done extremely well, with less anamosity then came in the WWII similar stories.

Good Night and Good Luck (2005)(Best Pic Nom) Very solid, well acted bio. Not as much about Edward Murrow as his relationship/interaction with McCarthy. Excellent cast. The B&W help set the mood of the era and made the cuts to real footage less obvious. I have now seen every nominee since 2001.

Avatar (2009) (250, Best Pic Nom) I liked this, didn't love it, but liked it. Didn't see it on the big screen or in 3-D. The story is not completely new. Felt I needed something original or a parellel I could latch onto, but it was 20th century marines - in the future, with weapons barely upgraded from today - if even that advanced, aside from some human activated robots. The setting was a tropical rain forest, but these were horse riding, bow and arrow carrying 19th century Native Americans. There was a disconnect I couldn't get past.

banshun
08-03-2010, 12:44 PM
I like The Grand Illusion a lot. The Nazis declared this movie to be ‘cinematic enemy #1’, all this for an anti-war movie which doesn’t have a single battle scene but instead makes its case against war by showing the commonality between people beyond ethnicity, class, and geography. Von Stroheim is very memorable and the scene with the flower is one of the greats of the 1930s, I’d say.

Patience
08-04-2010, 06:52 PM
Secret in Their Eyes, The {El secreto de sus ojos} (2009) (Best Foreign, IMDB*)

* Currently IMDB top 250, but not when I added my list

Excellent who-done-it with a lot of additional under tones of love, friendship, lost and missed opportunities. A very interesting ending, which can evoke a tremendous amount of discussion. I am curious what translates to Schmuck.

Passion of Joan of Arc, The (1928) (1001, ARoTS) Fantasic film. Amazingly filmed, subtly acted - especially considering the topic. Loved the job the main actress did. Would have liked translation at the beginning and end on the restoration. and the version I saw had no music whic was off putting initially. The dialogue was also very minimized, which bothered me somewhat. Also very creative camera angles, sometimes a bit too much, but very well done.

Hotel Rwanda (2004) (IMDB) Shockingly this is not on the 400 list. Powerful disturbing movie that can best be described as Schindler's List in Africa. Be thankful for the bad guys who really don't care about the cause and are easily bribed.

banshun
08-04-2010, 10:13 PM
Great movie -

from Wikipedia:
Pauline Kael wrote that Falconetti's portrayal of Joan of Arc "may be the finest performance ever recorded on film."...
The original version of the film was lost for decades after a fire destroyed the master negative. Dreyer himself attempted to reassemble a version from out-takes and surviving prints, but he died believing his original cut was lost forever. In one of the most important discoveries in cinema history, a virtually complete print of Dreyer's original version was found in 1981 in a janitor's closet of an Oslo mental institution.[9] This version is now available on DVD.

Patience
08-05-2010, 08:48 AM
Great movie -

from Wikipedia:

It was a great performance. I find subtlety in these early movies to make them work much better.



The Age of Gold (1930) Âge d'or, L' (1001, AroTS) uhm, ok. From IMDB

For various legal reasons, this film was withdrawn from circulation in 1934 by the Le Vicomte de Noailles (1891-1981) and Vicomtesse Marie-Laure de Noailles (1902-1970) who had financed the film. The US premiere was on 1 November 1979 at the Roxie Cinema in San Francisco.

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This film was granted a screening permit after being presented to the Board of Censors as the dream of a madman. Opening at Studio 28 in Paris in October 1930, word spread about the film's bizarre content. On the evening of 3 December 1930, the fascist League of Patriots and other groups began (halfway through the film) to throw purple ink at the screen, then rushed out into the lobby of the theater, slashing paintings by Yves Tanguy, Salvador Dalí, Joan Miró, and Man Ray. The producers of the film, Le Vicomte de Noailles and Marie-Laure de Noailles, soon withdrew the film from circulation. The (legal) US premiere of subtitled prints of this film took place 1-15 November 1979 at the Roxie Cinema, San Francisco.

ok, didn't really enjoy it much more than those described here. A basic plot, scattered with surrealist images and actions. I don't believe it is intended to be literally translated, but more of a general message on the government, acristocrats and religion. Salvadore Dali is one of the directors and I like and appreciate his art. Also had a role with Max Ernst. At 1 hr, it was short and actually did not really drag. But was not something I felt I got anything out of

banshun
08-05-2010, 09:22 AM
The Age of Gold (1930)

I like this a lot - much better than the more famous Un chien andalou (with the eyeball scene) - but can't defend it since by its very nature it's illogical. I suppose it either clicks with someone or it doesn't. It's been some time since I saw it but I remember the rampant statue toe-sucking and the chilling & horrific sequence near the end. Some of this surreal film has stuck in my memory so I've got to give it credit for that.

Patience
08-05-2010, 10:18 AM
The Age of Gold (1930)

I like this a lot - much better than the more famous Un chien andalou (with the eyeball scene) - but can't defend it since by its very nature it's illogical. I suppose it either clicks with someone or it doesn't. It's been some time since I saw it but I remember the rampant statue toe-sucking and the chilling & horrific sequence near the end. Some of this surreal film has stuck in my memory so I've got to give it credit for that.

I think I made a comment for Man With A Movie Camera - that either it will work for you or not. Same applies here. I am a very literal person, but lacking that I at least want to be able to draws clean parallel in the meaning of things, or lacking that, want to appreciate it as a work of art for arts sake. For me it lacked all three.

It was interesting watching this with my French speaking artist daughter - who also did not appreciate it. Have been warned about Un chien andalou and fear it, as i had enough problems with the eye rubbing seen in Eraserhead (not to mention Eye Of The Needle)

Patience
08-07-2010, 10:23 AM
Boyz N' The Hood (1991) (500, 1001) Not what I expected and actually much better. Laurence Fisburne was excellent and so many of the others (Ice Cube, Cuba Gooding, Regina King, Angela Bassett, Morris Chestnut) were hardly known. Depressing, yet positive and a bit too predictable.

Patience
08-14-2010, 09:14 PM
No list, just on the outdoor screen on my cruise. Have to consider my criteria for including a movie here - most likely just for anything that is new to me.

Invictus (2009) Good solid movie. Excellent acting from Freeman and Damon. Exccellent political overtones and history. The sports scenes just didn't get me as excited as I would hope

Letters To Julliet (2010) Ok romanic comedy. Too slow at times. I don't really care for Amanda Seyfried. A bit predictable

Patience
08-14-2010, 09:18 PM
Based on my logic in the prior post I might as well include this too

Grown-ups (2010) I liked this. The initial characterizations were too over the top, but I felt it took a nice direction and I had quite a few laughs. Didn't like the Rock or Schneider characters as much and the other three played themselves and it worked. Oh, and Selma Hayak is gorgeous. I think this works more for someone 40s or older with kids.

Patience
08-15-2010, 09:00 AM
Cimarron (1931) (Best Pic, 400) I liked this film. I liked it better then some other reknowned pictures covering long eras such as Giant or Cavalcade. A tad over acted, but straight out of the silent era I can accept that. For the era, a lot of sensitvity to the Native American, Jews and Blacks - though all were portrayed rather steriotypically. Also, though flawed for a wide open western the sound was actually quite well done. This is the lowest IMDB rated best picture winner and I am surprised by that, also nominated for both actor awards and director. The first western to win (ok, everyone keeps writing that, but the oscars only started a few years before and westerns rarely win, if even nominated anyway, so what is the big deal) and the first picture to be nominated for all the majors.

Patience
08-20-2010, 12:02 AM
Madam Curie (1943) (Best Pic Nom) Very solid bio. 7 Oscar noms, including picture and both actors. A tad melodramatically acted at times, but overall quite good, with some funny moments as well. I love the social awkardness of these brilliant mathematicians and scientists - it felt quite real amd familiar. I also find it quite interesting as Marie and Piere Curie may be amonst the best known scientists of all time, but what they did and what it took I don't believe is actually all that known. Would have liked more on their personal lives - they had children, but they were hardly mentioned over four years of research. and even with two nobel prizes she was excluded from teaching at some prestigous French institutions which was not covered at all. Her gender was mentioned and questioned as to her abilities, but it was more attributed to her youth and little of the sexual predjudice.

This was based on her daughter's book

Patience
08-20-2010, 09:35 AM
Earth (1930) (1001, ARoTS) First if you want to IMDB this I could not find it under Earth, but only its Russian name Zemlya. Second this is a polictical movie and who is with whom gets confusing. Third it is not about the story as much of the art of making the film. A review from IMDB

To be truthful there isn't much of a story--that's secondary in this film. The imagery is what counts and it's truly stunning. It contains some of the most gorgeous footage I've ever seen of nature and, in images, clearly documents man's love of the earth. There are characters and a minor story but they're actually pretty bad--the story is painfully slow, the acting horrendous (one very good-looking actor just stands there with a big beautiful grin on his face no matter WHAT the scene is about) and has some of the most laughable dialogue cards I've ever seen (I'm assuming it doesn't translate well from Russian). Also the "restored" print looks pretty terrible. Still the images are incredible and there's a beautiful music score going along with it.


My problem is the restored is not good and I couldn't really get the beautiful images for the most part, the still lifes were lost on me.

Lastly, any movie that starts with an explanation as to why the people it was made for didn't care for it, is already on the edge.

There are a few memorable shots, but for me, all in all it didn't work