Attempt on the life of a Virginia Congressman?

[Y2A]

This is what happens when you continue to provoke these unstable people with the hopes of getting some political benefit out of it. This is now getting dangerous.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/24/fbi-investigating-perriello-incident-in-virginia/?fbid=QqzJOFInPQh
FBI investigating Perriello incident in Virginia
Posted: March 24th, 2010 01:46 PM ET

Washington (CNN) - Days after his address was posted online by a Virginia Tea Party activist, the FBI and local law enforcement officials are investigating a "suspicious incident" at the home of Rep. Tom Perriello's brother.

A line to the propane tank on his brother's gas grill had been "severed," an aide to the Democratic congressman told CNN.

"It was enough that he could smell the gas," the aide said.

The Albemarle County Fire Marshal's office confirmed they are investigating the incident - which took place in Ivy, Virginia - along with the FBI.

"While officials are not willing to characterize the exact nature of the incident because of the ongoing investigation, it did not involve an immediate threat to occupants of the residence," Lee Catlin, Community Relations Director for the Fire Marshal, told CNN. "However officials are taking the incident very seriously and conducting a vigorous investigation. Additional details will be released as the investigation continues."

Catlin said county officials joined the investigation late Tuesday after a request from the FBI.

Politico reported Monday that a Tea Party activist in Lynchburg, angry over Perriello's vote in favor of health care reform legislation, had posted the address of Perriello's brother online and encouraged other activists to "stop by" and weigh in on the bill. The activist had apparently meant to post the congressman's home address but mistakenly published his brother's.

Perriello, who represents Virginia's conservative-leaning 5th congressional district, encompassing central and southern parts of the state. He was narrowly elected to his first term in 2008 and is considered one of the most vulnerable House Democrats in 2010.

On Wednesday, Perriello's office issued the following statement:

“My number one priority right now is ensuring the safety of my brother’s family, and I am grateful to law enforcement for their excellent work. While it is too early to say anything definitive regarding political motivations behind this act, it’s never too early for political leaders to condemn threats of violence, particularly as threats to other Members of Congress and their children escalate. And so I ask every member of House and Senate leadership to state unequivocally tonight that it is never OK to harm or threaten elected officials and their families with anything more than political retribution. Here in America, we settle our political differences at the ballot box.”

[zeuz]

"Here in America, we settle our political differences at the ballot box."

:rofl: I guess George Washington et. al. were voting in 1776.

[gomer_tree]

This is what happens when you continue to provoke these unstable people with the hopes of getting some political benefit out of it. This is now getting dangerous.

:roll:

Stupid and irrationally emotional people are on both sides of the aisle, and people from both political parties are at risk from nutjobs on the other side.

Nobody is out encouraging violence. People are upset and angry about politics, as often happens depending on the fight of the day. A lot of people say a lot of things.

[Chuck]

Whoever does such things (like this, the racist comments, the gay bashing, the spitting whatever), from whatever side, should be uniformly condemned, prosecuted, etc.

But maybe, just maybe, the leaders on the left could also just step back and think just a little bit about the constant demonization and scapegoating of the evil insurance industry (and others that they constantly bash). I have friends at AIG who were afraid to go to work on some days because of the angry protests and things being said when that was all taking place.

Continue such talk as a means to make political gains, and it is only a matter of time before the angry mobs on the left pick up their torches and storm your head office.

Chuck

[zeuz]

Whoever does such things (like this, the racist comments, the gay bashing, the spitting whatever), from whatever side, should be uniformly condemned, prosecuted, etc.


Chuck

Our forefathers did these things. They tarred and feathered evil people, who supported the king.

[gomer_tree]

The things some of the politicians said about AIG and others was far worse. I believe they actually referenced pitchforks and mobs. While not precisely a call to violence, even alluding to such imagery was destructive. Some other idiot actually made some "joke" about them committing suicide (and I think that was a Republican, so it went both ways).

The Health Care debate has been very heated, but the comments from pols during the bailouts were much more irresponsible.

[Omikron]

This is just astro-turf.

[The President]

Stupid and irrationally emotional people are on both sides of the aisle, and people from both political parties are at risk from nutjobs on the other side.

Sure, but then you go back and see the same themes from supporters at McCain Palin rallies in 2008. The anger is coming out of the right, and it is much more hostile than anything I have seem come from either side of the aisle for as long as I can remember. Did you ever feel there were real threats out there against the lives of Bush and the GOP in 2000-2004? Honest question - I don't think that level of hostility was ever there, but it is also harder to see it from the side I am sitting on.

[Aaron Brachowitz]

CBS did a dramatic piece about all the death threats on Rep. Stupak. Only one problem -- no death threats.

"I hope you die" <> "I'm going to kill you"
"You will rue the day" <> "I'm going to kill you"
etc.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001091-503544.html?tag=stack

[Wigmeister General]

http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

Yeah the left was as pure as the wind-driven snow.

:rolleyes:

[Wigmeister General]

Sure, but then you go back and see the same themes from supporters at McCain Palin rallies in 2008. The anger is coming out of the right, and it is much more hostile than anything I have seem come from either side of the aisle for as long as I can remember. Did you ever feel there were real threats out there against the lives of Bush and the GOP in 2000-2004? Honest question - I don't think that level of hostility was ever there, but it is also harder to see it from the side I am sitting on.


http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

[Wigmeister General]

http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

the left is filled with only nice, kind people.

[Wigmeister General]

http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

I love the kind-hearted, soft-spoken radicals

[Wigmeister General]

http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

[Wigmeister General]

On July 11, 2007, Nobel Peace Prize laureate Betty Williams gave the keynote speech to the International Women’s Peace Conference in Dallas, Texas, and said (to laughter and applause from the audience):

“I mean right now, I could kill George Bush , no problem. No, I don’t mean that. I mean — how could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that .”

You can hear the audiotape of her threat on Breitbart.TV

. Despite the fact that threatening to kill the president is a crime, the Secret Service refused to question her or detain her; according to the Dallas Morning News , “Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren in Washington declined to comment, but a Dallas agent said Ms. Williams had not been questioned and there were no plans to do so.” However, the people who emailed the conference in anger about her threats — they were the ones investigated: “Conference organizers reported that a Dallas police detective was working with hotel security to review about 40 hateful e-mails received in response to Ms. Williams’ speech.”
Earlier, Betty Williams said essentially the same thing

in a speech in Australia on July 24, 2006, proving that this was not just a slip of the tongue but something she thinks about frequently:
“I have a very hard time with this word ‘non-violence,’ because I don’t believe that I am non-violent…. Right now, I would love to kill George Bush …. I don’t know how I ever got a Nobel Peace Prize, because when I see children die the anger in me is just beyond belief.”

Was Betty Williams ever questioned or investigated for making a threat against Bush? No.

(Source: wikipedia

[Wigmeister General]

Threats against Bush by celebrities which were never investigated

John Kerry

The picture above shows John Kerry as he was being interviewed by Bill Maher in October of 2006 on the HBO show Real Time . As can be seen in this video exclusively on the ongoodmove blog

, starting at about one minute into the clip Kerry says what can only be interpreted as a threat to kill Bush:
Maher : You could have went to New Hampshire and killed two birds with one stone.

Kerry : Or, I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone .

Full transcript of the interview here

.
Was John Kerry ever questioned or investigated for making a threat against Bush? No.

(Source: National Review

[Wigmeister General]

I think I've made the point.

Lefties, get over it! You started the insanity.

[Scars]

I think I've made the point.

Lefties, get over it! You started the insanity.

I'm not a "leftie" but come on... The "you started it" claim?
Is this grade school?

[zeuz]

:rofl:

[The President]

http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

I love the kind-hearted, soft-spoken radicals
I did say, honest question. :shrug:

[Andy The Clown]

One has to remember one of the oldest tricks in the world of politics, is to attack your own headquarters and blame the other side.

[lennie]

CBS did a dramatic piece about all the death threats on Rep. Stupak. Only one problem -- no death threats.

"I hope you die" <> "I'm going to kill you"
"You will rue the day" <> "I'm going to kill you"
etc.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001091-503544.html?tag=stack
I hope Ted Kennedy stays dead a LONG time.

[Omikron]

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."

Good old Abe. You think times are different now? Pfft.

[Rickson]

This is just astro-turf.

+1, to make the pissed off people that don't want to be pushed into neoserfdom looks like they are violent nuts.

[Rickson]

One has to remember one of the oldest tricks in the world of politics, is to attack your own headquarters and blame the other side.

Hence OKC!!!!!
Hence 9/11!!!!!

[Scars]

Hence OKC!!!!!
Hence 9/11!!!!!

Ah damn, you caught us. We wanted to kill thousands of innocent men, women and children just so we could rile up America. You're good. Well played.

Lets scale it back a touch and perhaps remember that in Colorado a year ago (or so) a Democratic support broke a window (or two?) at the DNC's building in Denver...

[Rickson]

Ah damn, you caught us. We wanted to kill thousands of innocent men, women and children just so we could rile up America. You're good. Well played.

Lets scale it back a touch and perhaps remember that in Colorado a year ago (or so) a Democratic support broke a window (or two?) at the DNC's building in Denver...

What's the difference?

Sadly a few thousand people is nothing for the folks that run our country.

The bigger the disaster the more the sheeple will pull their butt cheeks part.

[Scars]

What's the difference?

Sadly a few thousand people is nothing for the folks that run our country.

The bigger the disaster the more the sheeple will pull their butt cheeks part.

The difference is that one is mass murder/act of war and the other is vandalism.

I'm not big on conspiracy theories, so this probably won't go anywhere for you.

[Rickson]

The difference is that one is mass murder/act of war and the other is vandalism.

I'm not big on conspiracy theories, so this probably won't go anywhere for you.

You really think a few thousand lives is that big of a deal to the people that make almost limitless money?

[SirVLCIV]

I'm starting to believe that Americans deserve what they get.

Thank goodness I don't have children.

[gomer_tree]

Sure, but then you go back and see the same themes from supporters at McCain Palin rallies in 2008. The anger is coming out of the right, and it is much more hostile than anything I have seem come from either side of the aisle for as long as I can remember. Did you ever feel there were real threats out there against the lives of Bush and the GOP in 2000-2004? Honest question - I don't think that level of hostility was ever there, but it is also harder to see it from the side I am sitting on.

You can't be serious.


ETA: I see by the following posts that this has been addressed.

Post left for posterity.

[DeadActorII]

Might have been his neighbor who is tired of grill smoke floating across his pool deck or something...did we canvass the neighborhood?

[Gary Wright]

CBS did a dramatic piece about all the death threats on Rep. Stupak. Only one problem -- no death threats.

"I hope you die" <> "I'm going to kill you"
"You will rue the day" <> "I'm going to kill you"
etc.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001091-503544.html?tag=stack

Typical democrat trick after unloading control-oriented legislation. Attempt to distract constituents from examining the fact that the legislation is shit and way out of bounds by associating anyone against the legislation as supporting death threats, and then claim far more death threats than there in a game of "real issues camoflage".

Such threats happen no matter what side of the aisle you're on (if no such things happened, there'd be no need for the secret service), but I don't hear them blown so far out of proportion when republicans are involved.

[Aaron Brachowitz]

Typical democrat trick after unloading control-oriented legislation. Attempt to distract constituents from examining the fact that the legislation is shit and way out of bounds by associating anyone against the legislation as supporting death threats, and then claim far more death threats than there in a game of "real issues camoflage".

Don't forget the alleged "racial epithets" -- which at this point (I believe) remain totally unsubstantiated.

[remilard]

At the risk of stating the obvious:

1. Emptying a 20 lb propane tank outdoors isn't all that risky
2. Sometimes hoses get severed outdoors for reasons other than murder.

[Tim><]

And now an attempt on a Republican?

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/25/house-gop-no-2-someone-shot-at-my-office/?hpt=T2

[MountainHawk]

You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. At some point, people are going to realize who the real fools are, and we'll see if Rickson is right and Washington really is willing to use the army to put down a popular revolt.

[gomer_tree]

And now an attempt on a Republican?

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/25/house-gop-no-2-someone-shot-at-my-office/?hpt=T2

Like I said, goes both ways with stupid people.

And while I am a conservative, this is kind of funny - I switched a couple paragraphs in the article for illustrative purposes:

"Legitimate threats should be treated as security issues, and they should be dealt with by the appropriate law enforcement officials," Cantor told reporters on Capitol Hill. "It is reckless to use these incidents as media vehicles for political gain. ... Enough is enough. It has to stop."


He also accused Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine and Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland[ - a member of the Democratic House leadership - of "fanning the flames" of violence by using threats that have been made against Democratic members "as political weapons."




Can't we just do what they do in Japan and have our politicians get into fistfights on the floor of the House and leave it at that?

[gomer_tree]

You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. At some point, people are going to realize who the real fools are, and we'll see if Rickson is right and Washington really is willing to use the army to put down a popular revolt.

Something unsettling is going on, not just here, but in a lot of places.

We haven't seen the news coverage to provide a glimpse into how many places there are uprisings among general populations, for all sorts of different reasons. Between Greece, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy and even England there are plenty of places in Europe where there is either trouble, or there was trouble that has calmed down but the causes haven't been addressed. In the U.S. I don't think we're there yet, but there sure seems like more of a sentiment that there is an ultimate possibility of that. And it's from both the right and the left, depending on the issue.

If one place in Europe really goes up in flames, it could be a powder keg whose tentacles reach to a number of places. (I know, powder kegs don't have tentacles, but I can live with mixed metaphors if need be.)

[Omikron]

the tea party isn't the conduit for a populist revolution. on 9/12 people were singing "god bless america". there were vets in wheelchairs and grandparents in the crowd. what's grandma gonna do? hurl a molatav cocktail at the white house? give me a break.

[Louis Rich]

what's grandma gonna do?
http://www.wsvn.com/images/news_articles/389x205/080423_gangster_granny_lake_worth.jpg

[Ron Weasley]

A line to the propane tank on his brother's gas grill had been "severed," an aide to the Democratic congressman told CNN.

I call whip-up-hysteria foul. The last time I had a "severed" line coming from the propane tank on my gas grill, I replaced the dry rotted thing and went ahead and rebuilt the rest of the grill.

Not to mention, with all of the safety valves, etc, you could cut clean through the line and set it on fire without causing an explosion since it was outdoors. The biggest risk would be starting a fire.

[ditkaworshipper]

Can't we just do what they do in Japan and have our politicians get into fistfights on the floor of the House and leave it at that?
:link:?
Something unsettling is going on, not just here, but in a lot of places.

We haven't seen the news coverage to provide a glimpse into how many places there are uprisings among general populations, for all sorts of different reasons. Between Greece, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy and even England there are plenty of places in Europe where there is either trouble, or there was trouble that has calmed down but the causes haven't been addressed. In the U.S. I don't think we're there yet, but there sure seems like more of a sentiment that there is an ultimate possibility of that. And it's from both the right and the left, depending on the issue.

If one place in Europe really goes up in flames, it could be a powder keg whose tentacles reach to a number of places. (I know, powder kegs don't have tentacles, but I can live with mixed metaphors if need be.)
I've noticed this too. Also, don't think revolution is necessarily out of the question here. I have several friends who are into the idea, and I don't hang out in with what you would call radicals. But they are young and educated, which is really a dangerous crowd to piss off when you're talking about revolution. It's been really interesting to see the shift from socialist to anti-government among my age group. It just so happened that it happened during an economic crisis. Who'da thunk it?

People are fed up enough with the charade in Washington, and it's only a matter of time for revolt if they don't get their act together.

[gomer_tree]

I call whip-up-hysteria foul. The last time I had a "severed" line coming from the propane tank on my gas grill, I replaced the dry rotted thing and went ahead and rebuilt the rest of the grill.

Not to mention, with all of the safety valves, etc, you could cut clean through the line and set it on fire without causing an explosion since it was outdoors. The biggest risk would be starting a fire.

I was so quick to dismiss the point about blaming GOP hysteria for attempted murder to even catch the fact that the crime in question is a severed gas line to a gas grill.

:lol:

Seriously...

[gomer_tree]

:link:?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djdy_fhvZuM

http://amazing-events.blogspot.com/2009/04/extreme-parliament-fight-in-japan.html

Though, in researching, it looks like this extends well beyond Japan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pqhnf6XKC8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu8uqMEmyRE&feature=related (this one's kind of nasty)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfaNHtKkffA&feature=related

[SamTheEagle]

Our politicians did use to beat the crap out of each other. And sometimes even shoot each other. Those were the good old days.

[SamTheEagle]

We really could use some good tar and featherings.

[MountainHawk]

Obama and Pelosi vs Bush and Delay in a duel at sunrise on Capitol Hill.

Sounds like fun

[Guerilla poster]

Obama and Pelosi vs Bush and Delay in a duel at sunrise on Capitol Hill.

Sounds like fun


We have to get Kerry and Cheney involved somehow. Kerry can get a few more purple hearts

[win diesel]

lol someone sent white powder to Weiner of NY

[gomer_tree]

:shake:

It's talk like this that gets people killed.

You never know when an unstable actuary will try to rig a Congressman's calculator to explode at the typing of some random number calculation.

(knowing the average Senator, a good bet would be 55378008...)

[MightySchoop]

:shake:

It's talk like this that gets people killed.

You never know when an unstable actuary will try to rig a Congressman's calculator to explode at the typing of some random number calculation.

(knowing the average Senator, a good bet would be 55378008...)

Gomer, Senators don't know how to use calculators.

[Ron Weasley]

Gomer, Senators don't know how to use calculators.

Then how do they make political calculations?

[gomer_tree]

Breaking news: someone just tried to kill our local Congressman by cutting the brake lines on his riding lawnmower.

[Ron Weasley]

Breaking news: someone just tried to kill our local Congressman by cutting the brake lines on his riding lawnmower.

Oh my. I hope he didn't have any gasoline in the tank. That stuff is explosive!

[DeadActorII]

Breaking news: someone just tried to kill our local Congressman by cutting the brake lines on his riding lawnmower.

Do you live in Arkansas?

:toth:

[DeadActorII]

...
(knowing the average Senator, a good bet would be 55378008...)

:notworth: