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KidCA
10-28-2010, 01:11 PM
http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/oct/26/to-man-arrested-in-connection-with-ponzi-scheme/



Federal authorities arrested a Thousand Oaks man Tuesday for allegedly operating a Ponzi scheme that cheated investors out of more than $18 million.
Louis “Jim” Borstelmann, 68, was taken into custody by a.inline_topic:hover { background-color: #EAEAEA;}FBI (http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/news/topic/federal-bureau-of-investigation/) and Internal Revenue Service agents and charged with wire fraud, mail fraud and money laundering.
The FBI office in Portland and Oregon Division of Finance and Corporate Securities had been investigating Borstelmann for at least a year in connection with his business activities at Sunburst Associates Inc., which he operated for 30 years, the last few at 199 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 106.
Borstelmann reportedly got people to invest in second mortgages he sold to homeowners, promising high rates of return and a security interest in the property allegedly pledged to secure the investment. Many of the investors are in Oregon and are over 65.
According to the indictment, Borstelmann spent the investors’ money on personal items, including a car and a home.
Borstelmann’s arrest occurred just after 6 a.m. at his house in Greenmeadow Estates in Thousand Oaks, according to his neighbor, Peggi Clemens, who watched it happen.
Clemens said three vehicles showed up with eight to 10 agents. They handcuffed Borstelmann, took him away, and had his 2005 Lexus RX330 towed. The vehicle is described in the indictment as forfeitable property.
Investors stopped hearing from Borstelmann after he sent them a letter in January 2009 that read:
“Dear investor, I regret I have to tell you that your investments with Sunburst have no value. The current crash of the housing market has wiped out any equity. I have no money or assets left and am $500,000 in debt. All I have left is my Social Security. Given the situation, I am closing Sunburst and will likely file bankruptcy.”
Stephanie McKenzie of Florence, Ore., invested $55,000 with Borstelmann and was glad to hear he was arrested Tuesday.
“It’s a great day,” she said. “None of us expect to get anything back, I’d just like to see him behind bars.”
Miles Weiss, senior deputy district attorney who oversees the Real Estate Fraud Unit in Ventura County, consulted with federal authorities in the early stages of the investigation. He was pleased to get word of the indictment.
“Our office alone received five distinct real estate fraud complaints related to this defendant and we’re glad to see them encompassed in the approximate 100 victims associated with this prosecution,” he said.
Borstelmann will be arraigned Nov. 8 before Judge Thomas Coffin in the U.S. District Court in Eugene, Ore.


Read more: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/oct/26/to-man-arrested-in-connection-with-ponzi-scheme/#ixzz13frT8FSG
- vcstar.com




What's funny is that this dbaggy guy would issue HOA citations to me for not moving my car over a 3-day weekend or leaving my garage door open overnight. He would cover and double park his Lexus, too, which just made you want to throw a paint can on it. What a satisfying read for me.

The other neighbor quoted in the article, Peggi, is a real crazy biznatch, but oddly entertaining at arms length. EDITED OUT

Mr. Micro
10-28-2010, 01:41 PM
http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/oct/26/to-man-arrested-in-connection-with-ponzi-scheme/


Federal authorities arrested a Thousand Oaks man Tuesday for allegedly operating a Ponzi scheme that cheated investors out of more than $18 million.
Louis “Jim” Borstelmann, 68, was taken into custody by a.inline_topic:hover { background-color: #EAEAEA;}FBI (http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/news/topic/federal-bureau-of-investigation/) and Internal Revenue Service agents and charged with wire fraud, mail fraud and money laundering.
The FBI office in Portland and Oregon Division of Finance and Corporate Securities had been investigating Borstelmann for at least a year in connection with his business activities at Sunburst Associates Inc., which he operated for 30 years, the last few at 199 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite 106.
Borstelmann reportedly got people to invest in second mortgages he sold to homeowners, promising high rates of return and a security interest in the property allegedly pledged to secure the investment. Many of the investors are in Oregon and are over 65.
According to the indictment, Borstelmann spent the investors’ money on personal items, including a car and a home.
Borstelmann’s arrest occurred just after 6 a.m. at his house in Greenmeadow Estates in Thousand Oaks, according to his neighbor, Peggi Clemens, who watched it happen.
Clemens said three vehicles showed up with eight to 10 agents. They handcuffed Borstelmann, took him away, and had his 2005 Lexus RX330 towed. The vehicle is described in the indictment as forfeitable property.
Investors stopped hearing from Borstelmann after he sent them a letter in January 2009 that read:
“Dear investor, I regret I have to tell you that your investments with Sunburst have no value. The current crash of the housing market has wiped out any equity. I have no money or assets left and am $500,000 in debt. All I have left is my Social Security. Given the situation, I am closing Sunburst and will likely file bankruptcy.”
Stephanie McKenzie of Florence, Ore., invested $55,000 with Borstelmann and was glad to hear he was arrested Tuesday.
“It’s a great day,” she said. “None of us expect to get anything back, I’d just like to see him behind bars.”
Miles Weiss, senior deputy district attorney who oversees the Real Estate Fraud Unit in Ventura County, consulted with federal authorities in the early stages of the investigation. He was pleased to get word of the indictment.
“Our office alone received five distinct real estate fraud complaints related to this defendant and we’re glad to see them encompassed in the approximate 100 victims associated with this prosecution,” he said.
Borstelmann will be arraigned Nov. 8 before Judge Thomas Coffin in the U.S. District Court in Eugene, Ore.


Read more: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/oct/26/to-man-arrested-in-connection-with-ponzi-scheme/#ixzz13frT8FSG
- vcstar.com


What's funny is that this dbaggy guy would issue HOA citations to me for not moving my car over a 3-day weekend or leaving my garage door open overnight. He would cover and double park his Lexus, too, which just made you want to throw a paint can on it. What a satisfying read for me.

The other neighbor quoted in the article, Peggi, is a real crazy biznatch, but oddly entertaining at arms length. She likes to sit at the edge of her driveway in a mudmask, star&moon pajamas, and clip her toenails while smoking a cig--classy lady.


You live next to a guy who brought home $18 million? And why is this guy driving a 2005 Lexus?

Is it more likely he took $100,000 from investors but on paper he owed them $18 million?

rekrap
10-28-2010, 01:44 PM
I bet he didn't use any of it to pay for his half of the fence, either.

Loner
10-28-2010, 01:46 PM
You live next to a guy who brought home $18 million? And why is this guy driving a 2005 Lexus?

Is it more likely he took $100,000 from investors but on paper he owed them $18 million?

The $18 million is probably a "total fraud" figure that includes payouts for investors' withdrawals to keep the scam going. He probably netted a couple million.

SamTheEagle
10-28-2010, 01:50 PM
I wonder about these things. Did it start out as a legitimate investment scheme that went south and he turned to fraud to keep the wheels turning, or did he start day 1 intending to scam people?

KidCA
10-28-2010, 02:03 PM
You live next to a guy who brought home $18 million? And why is this guy driving a 2005 Lexus?

Is it more likely he took $100,000 from investors but on paper he owed them $18 million?

He is an old neighbor (I rent out the townhouse now) and he bought the Lexus new around 2005, which I'm guessing was the height of his scheme.

@Sam, I think it became a scam the day he spent the investment money on personal items. I wonder too if that was before or after inception.
The article says probably over 100 victims in this case. If on average they invested $60k (which may be an underestimate when dealing with 65+ retirees) , that's $6M right there. And, yea, guarantees of 10-20%+/year would amount to quite a bit over 5-10 years.

I just wish he were arrainged here in SoCal, so I could attend and let him know he left his garage door open, and I have to submit a citation.

Meshuga
10-28-2010, 02:05 PM
You live next to a guy who brought home $18 million? And why is this guy driving a 2005 Lexus?

Is it more likely he took $100,000 from investors but on paper he owed them $18 million?
only 1550 square foot. kind of small. i would have bought something bigger and newer.

KidCA
10-28-2010, 02:13 PM
only 1550 square foot. kind of small. i would have bought something bigger and newer.

I think he must've bought a house somewhere else.. I'm confused by that. He's lived in that townhouse since at least 2002, when I moved in. His tax basis is near half of what mine is (meaning home value at purchase is half), so I'm guessing his ownership comes from somewhere in the 1990s.

The neighborhood is decent, but not a place you expect to find millionaires living.

Jack
10-28-2010, 02:16 PM
HOAs are for commies.

Mount St. Helens
10-28-2010, 03:57 PM
HOAs are for commies.
No! They're also for fraudulent capitalists!

tommie frazier
11-03-2010, 02:53 PM
ah, well, just when I thought I'd report my first post ever (I think) it had already been deleted.

phew. that was some ugly stuff there.

KidCA
11-03-2010, 02:55 PM
ah, well, just when I thought I'd report my first post ever (I think) it had already been deleted.

phew. that was some ugly stuff there.

it's fine, I tried to post back, it's really not that bad, just sounded that way.

General Apathy
11-03-2010, 03:05 PM
What was it??

tommie frazier
11-03-2010, 03:14 PM
someone mentioned in the OP (a neighbor, maybe not the alleged ponzi neighbor) basically flamed KidCA, used a real life name, threw some more comments in about what makes for a bad neighbor, etc.

it was a weird (for here even) ad hominem attack.

Hugh Jass
11-03-2010, 03:16 PM
What was it??

someone mentioned in the OP (a neighbor, maybe not the alleged ponzi neighbor) basically flamed KidCA, used a real life name, threw some more comments in about what makes for a bad neighbor, etc.

it was a weird (for here even) ad hominem attack.

yeah, it was...bizzare.

SamTheEagle
11-03-2010, 03:20 PM
Damn, missed it.

the BS method
11-03-2010, 03:20 PM
if someone promises you $200 tomorrow for $100 today--and you accept--is there really a victim, or is it just a couple of idiots?

i'm going to go practice my flying yoga now and ponder that

Inconceivable
11-03-2010, 04:03 PM
Why was my post deleted?

Hugh Jass
11-03-2010, 04:04 PM
Why was my post deleted?

because you are a bad person

tommie frazier
11-03-2010, 04:08 PM
you wuoted it

Inconceivable
11-03-2010, 04:11 PM
Oh that makes sense. It was still hilarious and mods should have just removed the quote. You know, to make the AO a better place, instead of the crap pile that it is now that it's gone. For shame.

KidCA
11-03-2010, 04:42 PM
I'm handling everything in person here, thanks for some of the messages I've received, and I'm happy to explain anything through PM.

I started with making some of the comments, so I'm owning up to that and taking responsibility.

Sorry if funny posts got deleted in the crossfire.

Again, PM me for anything more and we can let this thread pass on.

Falkland Islands
11-04-2010, 12:21 AM
it's fine, I tried to post back, it's really not that bad, just sounded that way.

it was a weird (for here even) ad hominem attack.

So it not only just sounded that way, it was spelled the same too?