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Here is a recap from my single table tournament from tonight, well at least the tv version (edited out the small and boring hands).

I've already found a couple of plays that i would do differently but would be interested in your comments on any of the hands.

I left the hands numbered so you get an idea of how much time has passed.


*********** # 4 **************
PokerStars Game #204017019: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2003/12/09 - 22:14:55 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Shouseman (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: walt4455 (1450 in chips)
Seat 3: tremco2 (1560 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (1460 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (1860 in chips)
Seat 6: spikiemikie (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: lews (1210 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: eYecallU (1500 in chips)
coltrain STL: posts small blind 10
spikiemikie: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [9c 7d]
lews: folds
bridgemaster: calls 20
eYecallU: raises 60 to 80
Shouseman: folds
walt4455: folds
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: folds
coltrain STL: folds
spikiemikie: folds
bridgemaster: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Qs Jd Jc]
bridgemaster: bets 20
eYecallU: calls 20
*** TURN *** [Qs Jd Jc] [9s]
bridgemaster: bets 180
eYecallU: calls 180
*** RIVER *** [Qs Jd Jc 9s] [Qc]
bridgemaster: bets 1200 and is all-in
eYecallU: calls 1200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bridgemaster: shows [Ad Qd] (a full house, Queens full of Jacks)
eYecallU: shows [Ac Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Queens)
bridgemaster collected 2990 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2990 | Rake 0
Board [Qs Jd Jc 9s Qc]
Seat 1: Shouseman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: walt4455 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tremco2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: spikiemikie (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: lews folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bridgemaster showed [Ad Qd] and won (2990) with a full house, Queens full of Jacks
Seat 9: eYecallU showed [Ac Jh] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of Queens

*********** # 9 **************
PokerStars Game #204024962: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2003/12/09 - 22:21:35 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Shouseman (1080 in chips)
Seat 2: walt4455 (1310 in chips)
Seat 3: tremco2 (1540 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (1460 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (1710 in chips)
Seat 6: spikiemikie (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: lews (1290 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (3640 in chips)
walt4455: posts small blind 15
tremco2: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Jh 6s]
SP0NGE: folds
coltrain STL: folds
spikiemikie: calls 30
lews: calls 30
bridgemaster: raises 30 to 60
Shouseman: folds
walt4455: calls 45
tremco2: calls 30
spikiemikie: calls 30
lews: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [Ac 9h Ts]
walt4455: checks
tremco2: checks
spikiemikie: bets 30
lews: calls 30
bridgemaster: raises 210 to 240
walt4455: folds
tremco2: folds
spikiemikie: raises 210 to 450
lews: folds
bridgemaster: calls 210
*** TURN *** [Ac 9h Ts] [Qh]
spikiemikie: bets 960 and is all-in
bridgemaster: calls 960
Seat 6: spikiemikie showed [Tc As]
Seat 8: bridgemaster showed [Ad Kd]
*** RIVER *** [Ac 9h Ts Qh] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
spikiemikie: shows [Tc As] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
bridgemaster: shows [Ad Kd] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
bridgemaster collected 3150 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3150 | Rake 0
Board [Ac 9h Ts Qh Kc]
Seat 1: Shouseman (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: walt4455 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: tremco2 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: SP0NGE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: coltrain STL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: spikiemikie showed [Tc As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 7: lews folded on the Flop
Seat 8: bridgemaster showed [Ad Kd] and won (3150) with two pair, Aces and Kings

*********** # 11 **************
PokerStars Game #204028005: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2003/12/09 - 22:24:05 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Shouseman (1080 in chips)
Seat 2: walt4455 (1250 in chips)
Seat 3: tremco2 (1680 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (1260 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (1710 in chips)
Seat 7: lews (1200 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (5320 in chips)
SP0NGE: posts small blind 15
coltrain STL: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [4s 2d]
lews: folds
bridgemaster: folds
Shouseman: calls 30
walt4455: calls 30
tremco2: raises 30 to 60
SP0NGE: folds
coltrain STL: folds
Shouseman: calls 30
walt4455: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [3s Kh 8d]
Shouseman: checks
walt4455: checks
tremco2: checks
*** TURN *** [3s Kh 8d] [7d]
Shouseman: checks
walt4455: bets 120
tremco2: raises 120 to 240
Shouseman: raises 780 to 1020 and is all-in
walt4455: raises 170 to 1190 and is all-in
tremco2: calls 950
Seat 1: Shouseman showed [5c 5s]
Seat 2: walt4455 showed [7s Kc]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) showed [8h 8s]
*** RIVER *** [3s Kh 8d 7d] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
walt4455: shows [7s Kc] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
tremco2: shows [8h 8s] (four of a kind, Eights)
tremco2 collected 340 from side pot
Shouseman: shows [5c 5s] (two pair, Eights and Fives)
tremco2 collected 3285 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3625 Main pot 3285. Side pot 340. | Rake 0
Board [3s Kh 8d 7d 8c]
Seat 1: Shouseman showed [5c 5s] and lost with two pair, Eights and Fives
Seat 2: walt4455 showed [7s Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) showed [8h 8s] and won (3625) with four of a kind, Eights
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: coltrain STL (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: lews folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bridgemaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 12 **************
PokerStars Game #204029386: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2003/12/09 - 22:25:13 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (4055 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (1245 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (1680 in chips)
Seat 7: lews (1200 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (5320 in chips)
coltrain STL: posts small blind 15
lews: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [6d As]
walt4455 [observer] said, "vvvv n"
bridgemaster: calls 30
tremco2: calls 30
tremco2 said, "ty"
SP0NGE: raises 90 to 120
coltrain STL: calls 105
lews: folds
bridgemaster: calls 90
tremco2: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [Ad 6s 7h]
coltrain STL: bets 60
bridgemaster: calls 60
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: raises 1065 to 1125 and is all-in
coltrain STL: folds
bridgemaster: calls 1065
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) showed [6d As]
Seat 8: bridgemaster showed [8s 5s]
*** TURN *** [Ad 6s 7h] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [Ad 6s 7h Jd] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bridgemaster: shows [8s 5s] (a pair of Jacks)
SP0NGE: shows [6d As] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
SP0NGE collected 2820 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2820 | Rake 0
Board [Ad 6s 7h Jd Jh]
Seat 3: tremco2 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) showed [6d As] and won (2820) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 5: coltrain STL (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: lews (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: bridgemaster showed [8s 5s] and lost with a pair of Jacks

*********** # 48 **************
PokerStars Game #204064545: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2003/12/09 - 22:52:09 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (3775 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (2585 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (2385 in chips)
Seat 7: lews (1355 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (3400 in chips)
lews: posts small blind 75
bridgemaster: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ts 7h]
tremco2: raises 150 to 300
SP0NGE: folds
coltrain STL: folds
lews: raises 1055 to 1355 and is all-in
bridgemaster: calls 1205
tremco2: folds
Seat 7: lews (small blind) showed [Qd As]
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) showed [Qc Jc]
*** TURN *** [2c Th 6d] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [2c Th 6d 9c] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lews: shows [Qd As] (high card Ace)
bridgemaster: shows [Qc Jc] (a flush, Queen high)
bridgemaster collected 3010 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3010 | Rake 0
Board [2c Th 6d 9c 5c]
Seat 3: tremco2 folded before Flop
Seat 4: SP0NGE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: lews (small blind) showed [Qd As] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) showed [Qc Jc] and won (3010) with a flush, Queen high

*********** # 51 **************
PokerStars Game #204067053: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2003/12/09 - 22:54:06 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (3025 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (2885 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (1485 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (6105 in chips)
coltrain STL: posts small blind 75
bridgemaster: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [5d 8s]
tremco2: raises 300 to 450
SP0NGE: folds
coltrain STL: calls 375
bridgemaster: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd 7h Ah]
coltrain STL: checks
tremco2: bets 400
coltrain STL: raises 635 to 1035 and is all-in
tremco2: calls 635
Seat 3: tremco2 showed [Jc Ad]
Seat 5: coltrain STL (small blind) showed [Kc Ac]
*** TURN *** [Kd 7h Ah] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [Kd 7h Ah 8d] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
coltrain STL: shows [Kc Ac] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
tremco2: shows [Jc Ad] (a pair of Aces)
coltrain STL collected 3120 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3120 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 7h Ah 8d 6h]
Seat 3: tremco2 showed [Jc Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (small blind) showed [Kc Ac] and won (3120) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 54 **************
PokerStars Game #204069022: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2003/12/09 - 22:55:38 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (1315 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (2960 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (3120 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (6105 in chips)
SP0NGE: posts small blind 75
coltrain STL: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [5c 8h]
bridgemaster: folds
tremco2: calls 150
SP0NGE: calls 75
coltrain STL: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 6c 5d]
SP0NGE: checks
coltrain STL: bets 150
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: calls 150
*** TURN *** [9c 6c 5d] [8d]
SP0NGE: bets 300
coltrain STL: calls 300
*** RIVER *** [9c 6c 5d 8d] [6h]
SP0NGE: bets 300
coltrain STL: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [5c 8h] (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
coltrain STL: shows [Kh 9h] (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
coltrain STL collected 1950 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1950 | Rake 0
Board [9c 6c 5d 8d 6h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [5c 8h] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sixes
Seat 5: coltrain STL (big blind) showed [Kh 9h] and won (1950) with two pair, Nines and Sixes
Seat 8: bridgemaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 59 **************
PokerStars Game #204073339: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2003/12/09 - 22:59:04 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (1540 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (2210 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (3495 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (6255 in chips)
coltrain STL: posts small blind 75
bridgemaster: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ks 3s]
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: raises 300 to 450
coltrain STL: calls 375
bridgemaster: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [9c Td Qh]
coltrain STL: checks
bridgemaster: checks
SP0NGE: checks
*** TURN *** [9c Td Qh] [6c]
coltrain STL: bets 300
bridgemaster: calls 300
SP0NGE: folds
*** RIVER *** [9c Td Qh 6c] [9d]
coltrain STL: bets 450
bridgemaster: calls 450
*** SHOW DOWN ***
coltrain STL: shows [Ac 4c] (a pair of Nines)
bridgemaster: shows [8d 8h] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
bridgemaster collected 2850 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2850 | Rake 0
Board [9c Td Qh 6c 9d]
Seat 3: tremco2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: coltrain STL (small blind) showed [Ac 4c] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) showed [8d 8h] and won (2850) with two pair, Nines and Eights

*********** # 66 **************
PokerStars Game #204078579: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2003/12/09 - 23:03:13 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (1015 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (1885 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (2895 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (7705 in chips)
SP0NGE: posts small blind 100
coltrain STL: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [3c 3s]
bridgemaster: calls 200
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: raises 400 to 600
coltrain STL: calls 400
bridgemaster: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [4d Kh 3h]
SP0NGE: bets 1285 and is all-in
coltrain STL: calls 1285
bridgemaster: folds
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [3c 3s]
Seat 5: coltrain STL (big blind) showed [Kd Ad]
*** RIVER *** [4d Kh 3h 9c] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [3c 3s] (three of a kind, Threes)
coltrain STL: shows [Kd Ad] (a pair of Kings)
SP0NGE collected 4370 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4370 | Rake 0
Board [4d Kh 3h 9c 6h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [3c 3s] and won (4370) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 5: coltrain STL (big blind) showed [Kd Ad] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 8: bridgemaster folded on the Flop

*********** # 70 **************
PokerStars Game #204082587: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2003/12/09 - 23:06:20 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (815 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (4670 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (610 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (7405 in chips)
SP0NGE: posts small blind 100
coltrain STL: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [9s 4d]
bridgemaster: folds
tremco2: calls 200
SP0NGE: folds
coltrain STL: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c Kc 4s]
coltrain STL: bets 410 and is all-in
tremco2: calls 410
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) showed [Ks 6s]
Seat 5: coltrain STL (big blind) showed [Jc Js]
*** RIVER *** [3c Kc 4s 8h] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
coltrain STL: shows [Jc Js] (a pair of Jacks)
tremco2: shows [Ks 6s] (a pair of Kings)
tremco2 collected 1320 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1320 | Rake 0
Board [3c Kc 4s 8h 7h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) showed [Ks 6s] and won (1320) with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: coltrain STL (big blind) showed [Jc Js] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 8: bridgemaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 80 **************
PokerStars Game #204088366: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2003/12/09 - 23:10:45 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (2425 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (3370 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (7705 in chips)
bridgemaster: posts small blind 100
tremco2: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ad Kc]
SP0NGE: raises 200 to 400
bridgemaster: folds
tremco2: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [8d 5h 9h]
tremco2: checks
SP0NGE: checks
*** TURN *** [8d 5h 9h] [8c]
tremco2: checks
SP0NGE: checks
*** RIVER *** [8d 5h 9h 8c] [3h]
tremco2: bets 500
SP0NGE: calls 500
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tremco2: shows [Qh 4h] (a flush, Queen high)
SP0NGE: mucks hand
tremco2 collected 1900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1900 | Rake 0
Board [8d 5h 9h 8c 3h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (big blind) showed [Qh 4h] and won (1900) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) mucked [Ad Kc] - a pair of Eights
Seat 8: bridgemaster (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 84 **************
PokerStars Game #204090783: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2003/12/09 - 23:12:38 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (3625 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (2270 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (7605 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts the ante 25
bridgemaster: posts the ante 25
tremco2: posts small blind 100
SP0NGE: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ad As]
bridgemaster: calls 200
tremco2: calls 100
SP0NGE: raises 400 to 600
bridgemaster: calls 400
tremco2: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qh 7d 7h]
SP0NGE: bets 400
bridgemaster: calls 400
*** TURN *** [Qh 7d 7h] [Kd]
SP0NGE: bets 400
bridgemaster: calls 400
*** RIVER *** [Qh 7d 7h Kd] [Jd]
SP0NGE: bets 400
bridgemaster: calls 400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [Ad As] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
bridgemaster: mucks hand
SP0NGE collected 3875 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3875 | Rake 0
Board [Qh 7d 7h Kd Jd]
Seat 3: tremco2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: SP0NGE (big blind) showed [Ad As] and won (3875) with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 8: bridgemaster (button) mucked [3c Qc] - two pair, Queens and Sevens

*********** # 96 **************
PokerStars Game #204098819: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2003/12/09 - 23:18:53 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (5512 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (5070 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (2918 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts the ante 25
bridgemaster: posts the ante 25
tremco2: posts small blind 100
SP0NGE: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [8s Kc]
bridgemaster: calls 200
tremco2: raises 200 to 400
SP0NGE: folds
bridgemaster: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [9h 4c Js]
tremco2: bets 200
bridgemaster: calls 200
*** TURN *** [9h 4c Js] [5h]
tremco2: bets 200
bridgemaster: calls 200
*** RIVER *** [9h 4c Js 5h] [5d]
tremco2: bets 500
bridgemaster: raises 500 to 1000
tremco2: calls 500
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bridgemaster: shows [Ad 5c] (three of a kind, Fives)
tremco2: shows [6h 6s] (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
bridgemaster collected 3875 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3875 | Rake 0
Board [9h 4c Js 5h 5d]
Seat 3: tremco2 (small blind) showed [6h 6s] and lost with two pair, Sixes and Fives
Seat 4: SP0NGE (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: bridgemaster (button) showed [Ad 5c] and won (3875) with three of a kind, Fives

*********** # 100 **************
PokerStars Game #204102100: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2003/12/09 - 23:21:26 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (3387 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (4845 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (5268 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts the ante 25
bridgemaster: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts small blind 200
bridgemaster: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [As Qs]
tremco2: calls 400
SP0NGE: raises 800 to 1200
bridgemaster: folds
tremco2: calls 800
*** FLOP *** [3s Ac Qh]
SP0NGE: checks
tremco2: checks
*** TURN *** [3s Ac Qh] [Qc]
SP0NGE: checks
tremco2: checks
*** RIVER *** [3s Ac Qh Qc] [6h]
SP0NGE: bets 800
tremco2: calls 800
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [As Qs] (a full house, Queens full of Aces)
tremco2: mucks hand
SP0NGE collected 4475 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4475 | Rake 0
Board [3s Ac Qh Qc 6h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) mucked [7d 6d] - two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [As Qs] and won (4475) with a full house, Queens full of Aces
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 101 **************
PokerStars Game #204102800: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2003/12/09 - 23:22:00 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (1362 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (7295 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (4843 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts the ante 25
bridgemaster: posts the ante 25
bridgemaster: posts small blind 200
tremco2: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [2h 6d]
SP0NGE: folds
bridgemaster: calls 200
tremco2: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kc 9s Jd]
bridgemaster: bets 400
tremco2: raises 537 to 937 and is all-in
bridgemaster: calls 537
Seat 3: tremco2 (big blind) showed [Ts Kd]
Seat 8: bridgemaster (small blind) showed [Ac Th]
*** RIVER *** [Kc 9s Jd 3c] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bridgemaster: shows [Ac Th] (high card Ace)
tremco2: shows [Ts Kd] (a pair of Kings)
tremco2 collected 2749 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2749 | Rake 0
Board [Kc 9s Jd 3c 4d]
Seat 3: tremco2 (big blind) showed [Ts Kd] and won (2749) with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (small blind) showed [Ac Th] and lost with high card Ace

*********** # 106 **************
PokerStars Game #204106754: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2003/12/09 - 23:25:09 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (1724 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (8720 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (3056 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts the ante 25
bridgemaster: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts small blind 200
bridgemaster: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [2d 5s]
tremco2: calls 400
SP0NGE: folds
bridgemaster: checks
*** FLOP *** [9d Kh 7s]
bridgemaster: checks
tremco2: bets 400
bridgemaster: calls 400
*** TURN *** [9d Kh 7s] [8s]
bridgemaster: bets 400
tremco2: raises 499 to 899 and is all-in
bridgemaster: calls 499
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) showed [Kc Td]
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) showed [6h Ad]
*** RIVER *** [9d Kh 7s 8s] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bridgemaster: shows [6h Ad] (high card Ace)
tremco2: shows [Kc Td] (a pair of Kings)
tremco2 collected 3673 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3673 | Rake 0
Board [9d Kh 7s 8s 2c]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) showed [Kc Td] and won (3673) with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) showed [6h Ad] and lost with high card Ace

*********** # 115 **************
PokerStars Game #204112916: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2003/12/09 - 23:30:06 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (5098 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (7920 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (482 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts the ante 25
bridgemaster: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts small blind 200
bridgemaster: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [8d Ad]
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: raises 400 to 800
bridgemaster: calls 57 and is all-in
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [8d Ad]
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) showed [Ts 9d]
*** FLOP *** [Jd 9c Tc]
SP0NGE said, "lol"
*** TURN *** [Jd 9c Tc] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 9c Tc 6s] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [8d Ad] (high card Ace)
bridgemaster: shows [Ts 9d] (two pair, Tens and Nines)
bridgemaster collected 989 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 989 | Rake 0
Board [Jd 9c Tc 6s 5h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [8d Ad] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) showed [Ts 9d] and won (989) with two pair, Tens and Nines

*********** # 117 **************
PokerStars Game #204114176: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2003/12/09 - 23:31:10 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (4648 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (7413 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (1439 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 50
SP0NGE: posts the ante 50
bridgemaster: posts the ante 50
tremco2: posts small blind 300
SP0NGE: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [6d 6s]
bridgemaster: folds
tremco2: raises 600 to 1200
SP0NGE: raises 600 to 1800
tremco2: raises 600 to 2400
SP0NGE: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [Ks 2c 8s]
tremco2: bets 600
SP0NGE: folds
tremco2 collected 4950 from pot
tremco2: shows [Ad As] (a pair of Aces)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4950 | Rake 0
Board [Ks 2c 8s]
Seat 3: tremco2 (small blind) collected (4950)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: bridgemaster (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 118 **************
PokerStars Game #204115523: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2003/12/09 - 23:32:22 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (7148 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (4963 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (1389 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 50
SP0NGE: posts the ante 50
bridgemaster: posts the ante 50
SP0NGE: posts small blind 300
bridgemaster: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ks 5d]
SP0NGE said, "ty"
tremco2: folds
tremco2 said, "yw"
SP0NGE: raises 1200 to 1800
bridgemaster: calls 739 and is all-in
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [Ks 5d]
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) showed [Jd As]
*** FLOP *** [Kc Kh Qc]
*** TURN *** [Kc Kh Qc] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [Kc Kh Qc Ts] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [Ks 5d] (a full house, Kings full of Fives)
bridgemaster: shows [Jd As] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
tremco2 said, "lol"
SP0NGE collected 2828 from pot
SP0NGE said, "lol sry"
tremco2 said, "nhs"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2828 | Rake 0
Board [Kc Kh Qc Ts 5h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [Ks 5d] and won (2828) with a full house, Kings full of Fives
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) showed [Jd As] and lost with a straight, Ten to Ace

*********** # 123 **************
PokerStars Game #204117582: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2003/12/09 - 23:34:12 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (9298 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (4202 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 50
SP0NGE: posts the ante 50
SP0NGE: posts small blind 300
tremco2: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Qc Qh]
SP0NGE: calls 300
tremco2: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qd Kd Qs]
tremco2: checks
SP0NGE: checks
*** TURN *** [Qd Kd Qs] [6c]
tremco2: checks
SP0NGE: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qd Kd Qs 6c] [Ks]
tremco2: bets 600
SP0NGE: raises 2952 to 3552 and is all-in
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE collected 2500 from pot
SP0NGE: shows [Qc Qh] (four of a kind, Queens)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2500 | Rake 0
Board [Qd Kd Qs 6c Ks]
Seat 3: tremco2 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) (small blind) collected (2500)

*********** # 125 **************
PokerStars Game #204118896: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2003/12/09 - 23:35:20 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (9898 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (3602 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 50
SP0NGE: posts the ante 50
SP0NGE: posts small blind 300
tremco2: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ad Jd]
SP0NGE: raises 600 to 1200
tremco2: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [3c 4s Jc]
tremco2: bets 600
SP0NGE: raises 1752 to 2352 and is all-in
tremco2: calls 1752
Seat 3: tremco2 (big blind) showed [4h Qd] and won (7204)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) (small blind) showed [Ad Jd]
*** TURN *** [3c 4s Jc] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [3c 4s Jc 6d] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tremco2: shows [4h Qd] (three of a kind, Fours)
SP0NGE: shows [Ad Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Fours)
SP0NGE said, "lol"
tremco2 said, "gg"
SP0NGE said, "gg"
tremco2 collected 7204 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7204 | Rake 0
Board [3c 4s Jc 6d 4d]
Seat 3: tremco2 (big blind) showed [4h Qd] and won (7204) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) (small blind) showed [Ad Jd] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Fours

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[Bama Gambler]

*********** # 12 **************
PokerStars Game #204029386: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2003/12/09 - 22:25:13 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (4055 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (1245 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (1680 in chips)
Seat 7: lews (1200 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (5320 in chips)
coltrain STL: posts small blind 15
lews: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [6d As]
walt4455 [observer] said, "vvvv n"
bridgemaster: calls 30
tremco2: calls 30
tremco2 said, "ty"
SP0NGE: raises 90 to 120
coltrain STL: calls 105
lews: folds
bridgemaster: calls 90
tremco2: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [Ad 6s 7h]
coltrain STL: bets 60
bridgemaster: calls 60
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: raises 1065 to 1125 and is all-in
coltrain STL: folds
bridgemaster: calls 1065
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) showed [6d As]
Seat 8: bridgemaster showed [8s 5s]
*** TURN *** [Ad 6s 7h] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [Ad 6s 7h Jd] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bridgemaster: shows [8s 5s] (a pair of Jacks)
SP0NGE: shows [6d As] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
SP0NGE collected 2820 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2820 | Rake 0
Board [Ad 6s 7h Jd Jh]
Seat 3: tremco2 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) showed [6d As] and won (2820) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 5: coltrain STL (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: lews (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: bridgemaster showed [8s 5s] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Whoa! I don't like this flop play. How do you know someone didn't flop a set or top two pair? It's very likely someone has Ax where x>6, and they have at least 6 outs to beat you (and any running pair higher than 7). Another thing I've learned is it's better to protect your hand on the turn rather than the flop. I used to always bet strong on the flop when I had two pair and a flush draw was on the board. But they are going to call with a flush draw on the flop where they might fold to a large bet on the turn. How about a raise to something like 300 on the flop? I would be concerned about the guy who called the 60. If I limped preflop with 77 and someone from late position raised to 120 and two more called I would call too. Then if I flopped a set and someone bet 60 into the pot and there was one to act behind me I would just call.

[Bama Gambler]

*********** # 54 **************
PokerStars Game #204069022: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2003/12/09 - 22:55:38 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (1315 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (2960 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (3120 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (6105 in chips)
SP0NGE: posts small blind 75
coltrain STL: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [5c 8h]
bridgemaster: folds
tremco2: calls 150
SP0NGE: calls 75
coltrain STL: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 6c 5d]
SP0NGE: checks
coltrain STL: bets 150
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: calls 150
*** TURN *** [9c 6c 5d] [8d]
SP0NGE: bets 300
coltrain STL: calls 300
*** RIVER *** [9c 6c 5d 8d] [6h]
SP0NGE: bets 300
coltrain STL: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [5c 8h] (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
coltrain STL: shows [Kh 9h] (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
coltrain STL collected 1950 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1950 | Rake 0
Board [9c 6c 5d 8d 6h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [5c 8h] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sixes
Seat 5: coltrain STL (big blind) showed [Kh 9h] and won (1950) with two pair, Nines and Sixes
Seat 8: bridgemaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I don't know if I would call preflop (I might but I would prob need more limpers). How about a check raise on the flop? You prob put him on two over cards, right? Why call on the flop and let him draw to his overcards. On the flop I would check. Since he bet a small amount (150) I would raise to 450.

[Bama Gambler]

*********** # 59 **************
PokerStars Game #204073339: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2003/12/09 - 22:59:04 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (1540 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (2210 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (3495 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (6255 in chips)
coltrain STL: posts small blind 75
bridgemaster: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ks 3s]
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: raises 300 to 450
coltrain STL: calls 375
bridgemaster: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [9c Td Qh]
coltrain STL: checks
bridgemaster: checks
SP0NGE: checks
*** TURN *** [9c Td Qh] [6c]
coltrain STL: bets 300
bridgemaster: calls 300
SP0NGE: folds
*** RIVER *** [9c Td Qh 6c] [9d]
coltrain STL: bets 450
bridgemaster: calls 450
*** SHOW DOWN ***
coltrain STL: shows [Ac 4c] (a pair of Nines)
bridgemaster: shows [8d 8h] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
bridgemaster collected 2850 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2850 | Rake 0
Board [9c Td Qh 6c 9d]
Seat 3: tremco2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: coltrain STL (small blind) showed [Ac 4c] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) showed [8d 8h] and won (2850) with two pair, Nines and Eights Look at the stack sizes. You are in 3rd position and only the top three get paid. I don't think you can afford to steal this pot. The chip leader is on the BB. This makes it much harder to steal. When it get close to the money try to pick on the medium stacks. They have the most to lose. Big stacks can afford to call and small stacks have to gamble. Medium stacks like to fold and wait for the small stack to bust. When I'm a big stack and close to the money I like to pick on the medium stacks too. I usually won't call a short stack unless I have a strong hand. I have a very important rule: DO NOT FEED THE SHORT STACK! I like for the medium stacks to battle with the short stack. That way if he loses then he is a short stack. If the large stack battles with the small stack and the small stack wins, then there might not be a small stack anymore. If there is not a small stack, then I can't pick on the medium stacks!

[Bama Gambler]

*********** # 66 **************
PokerStars Game #204078579: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2003/12/09 - 23:03:13 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (1015 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (1885 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (2895 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (7705 in chips)
SP0NGE: posts small blind 100
coltrain STL: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [3c 3s]
bridgemaster: calls 200
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: raises 400 to 600
coltrain STL: calls 400
bridgemaster: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [4d Kh 3h]
SP0NGE: bets 1285 and is all-in
coltrain STL: calls 1285
bridgemaster: folds
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [3c 3s]
Seat 5: coltrain STL (big blind) showed [Kd Ad]
*** RIVER *** [4d Kh 3h 9c] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [3c 3s] (three of a kind, Threes)
coltrain STL: shows [Kd Ad] (a pair of Kings)
SP0NGE collected 4370 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4370 | Rake 0
Board [4d Kh 3h 9c 6h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [3c 3s] and won (4370) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 5: coltrain STL (big blind) showed [Kd Ad] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 8: bridgemaster folded on the Flop
Same as the last post. This is a must fold pre-flop. What if you don't flop a three? You know there is going to be three overcards. You just put 1/3 of your stack in the middle on a pair of three's against the chip leader and others to act behind you. If you don't flop a three, then you are a small stack and are battleing to stay alive. Patience.

[Bama Gambler]

*********** # 80 **************
PokerStars Game #204088366: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2003/12/09 - 23:10:45 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (2425 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (3370 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (7705 in chips)
bridgemaster: posts small blind 100
tremco2: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ad Kc]
SP0NGE: raises 200 to 400
bridgemaster: folds
tremco2: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [8d 5h 9h]
tremco2: checks
SP0NGE: checks
*** TURN *** [8d 5h 9h] [8c]
tremco2: checks
SP0NGE: checks
*** RIVER *** [8d 5h 9h 8c] [3h]
tremco2: bets 500
SP0NGE: calls 500
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tremco2: shows [Qh 4h] (a flush, Queen high)
SP0NGE: mucks hand
tremco2 collected 1900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1900 | Rake 0
Board [8d 5h 9h 8c 3h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (big blind) showed [Qh 4h] and won (1900) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) mucked [Ad Kc] - a pair of Eights
Seat 8: bridgemaster (small blind) folded before Flop
If you are willing to call 500 on the river when the flush card comes and you didn't hit a pair, why not bet the 500 on the flop and try to pick up the pot? If he calls the 500 and checks the turn you can either give up or put him on a flush draw and really make a move at the pot. I think you played this hand weak-tight.

[Bama Gambler]

*********** # 84 **************
PokerStars Game #204090783: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2003/12/09 - 23:12:38 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (3625 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (2270 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (7605 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts the ante 25
bridgemaster: posts the ante 25
tremco2: posts small blind 100
SP0NGE: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ad As]
bridgemaster: calls 200
tremco2: calls 100
SP0NGE: raises 400 to 600
bridgemaster: calls 400
tremco2: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qh 7d 7h]
SP0NGE: bets 400
bridgemaster: calls 400
*** TURN *** [Qh 7d 7h] [Kd]
SP0NGE: bets 400
bridgemaster: calls 400
*** RIVER *** [Qh 7d 7h Kd] [Jd]
SP0NGE: bets 400
bridgemaster: calls 400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [Ad As] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
bridgemaster: mucks hand
SP0NGE collected 3875 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3875 | Rake 0
Board [Qh 7d 7h Kd Jd]
Seat 3: tremco2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: SP0NGE (big blind) showed [Ad As] and won (3875) with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 8: bridgemaster (button) mucked [3c Qc] - two pair, Queens and Sevens
Ok, since he called on the river I'm guessing he had a Queen. But you don't know that. Before the river call, I though he might have a flush draw. Why let him draw so cheaply on the turn? I'm allin on the turn. What was your purpose in betting 400 each round (flop, turn and river)?

[Expunge]

*********** # 12 **************
PokerStars Game #204029386: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2003/12/09 - 22:25:13 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (4055 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (1245 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (1680 in chips)
Seat 7: lews (1200 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (5320 in chips)
coltrain STL: posts small blind 15
lews: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [6d As]
walt4455 [observer] said, "vvvv n"
bridgemaster: calls 30
tremco2: calls 30
tremco2 said, "ty"
SP0NGE: raises 90 to 120
coltrain STL: calls 105
lews: folds
bridgemaster: calls 90
tremco2: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [Ad 6s 7h]
coltrain STL: bets 60
bridgemaster: calls 60
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: raises 1065 to 1125 and is all-in
coltrain STL: folds
bridgemaster: calls 1065
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) showed [6d As]
Seat 8: bridgemaster showed [8s 5s]
*** TURN *** [Ad 6s 7h] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [Ad 6s 7h Jd] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bridgemaster: shows [8s 5s] (a pair of Jacks)
SP0NGE: shows [6d As] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
SP0NGE collected 2820 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2820 | Rake 0
Board [Ad 6s 7h Jd Jh]
Seat 3: tremco2 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) showed [6d As] and won (2820) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 5: coltrain STL (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: lews (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: bridgemaster showed [8s 5s] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Whoa! I don't like this flop play. How do you know someone didn't flop a set or top two pair? It's very likely someone has Ax where x>6, and they have at least 6 outs to beat you (and any running pair higher than 7). Another thing I've learned is it's better to protect your hand on the turn rather than the flop. I used to always bet strong on the flop when I had two pair and a flush draw was on the board. But they are going to call with a flush draw on the flop where they might fold to a large bet on the turn. How about a raise to something like 300 on the flop? I would be concerned about the guy who called the 60. If I limped preflop with 77 and someone from late position raised to 120 and two more called I would call too. Then if I flopped a set and someone bet 60 into the pot and there was one to act behind me I would just call.

Yup I agree, it was a dangerous move. Ax x>6 really only has 3 outs right or am i missing something? with the rainbow flop the flush possibilities are quite low. This was a $5 single table and you do get quite a few weak calls earlier in these kinds of tournaments. but yes i agree a dangerous move yet AA would have reraised pre flop and i took the chance that if 66 or 77 flopped a set that they would have either bet more or reraised before it got to me.

[Bama Gambler]

Ax x>6 really only has 3 outs right or am i missing something? Any x (three of them) or any 7 (three of them). If the 7 pairs, then he out kicks ya. Of course if his x is close to 7 then you have some re-draws to split the pot.

[Bama Gambler]

*********** # 100 **************
PokerStars Game #204102100: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2003/12/09 - 23:21:26 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (3387 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (4845 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (5268 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts the ante 25
bridgemaster: posts the ante 25
SP0NGE: posts small blind 200
bridgemaster: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [As Qs]
tremco2: calls 400
SP0NGE: raises 800 to 1200
bridgemaster: folds
tremco2: calls 800
*** FLOP *** [3s Ac Qh]
SP0NGE: checks
tremco2: checks
*** TURN *** [3s Ac Qh] [Qc]
SP0NGE: checks
tremco2: checks
*** RIVER *** [3s Ac Qh Qc] [6h]
SP0NGE: bets 800
tremco2: calls 800
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [As Qs] (a full house, Queens full of Aces)
tremco2: mucks hand
SP0NGE collected 4475 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4475 | Rake 0
Board [3s Ac Qh Qc 6h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) mucked [7d 6d] - two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [As Qs] and won (4475) with a full house, Queens full of Aces
Seat 8: bridgemaster (big blind) folded before Flop This hand you played beautifully!! Your bet size on the river was absolutely perfect!

[Expunge]

*********** # 54 **************
PokerStars Game #204069022: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2003/12/09 - 22:55:38 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (1315 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (2960 in chips)
Seat 5: coltrain STL (3120 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (6105 in chips)
SP0NGE: posts small blind 75
coltrain STL: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [5c 8h]
bridgemaster: folds
tremco2: calls 150
SP0NGE: calls 75
coltrain STL: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 6c 5d]
SP0NGE: checks
coltrain STL: bets 150
tremco2: folds
SP0NGE: calls 150
*** TURN *** [9c 6c 5d] [8d]
SP0NGE: bets 300
coltrain STL: calls 300
*** RIVER *** [9c 6c 5d 8d] [6h]
SP0NGE: bets 300
coltrain STL: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [5c 8h] (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
coltrain STL: shows [Kh 9h] (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
coltrain STL collected 1950 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1950 | Rake 0
Board [9c 6c 5d 8d 6h]
Seat 3: tremco2 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [5c 8h] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sixes
Seat 5: coltrain STL (big blind) showed [Kh 9h] and won (1950) with two pair, Nines and Sixes
Seat 8: bridgemaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I don't know if I would call preflop (I might but I would prob need more limpers). How about a check raise on the flop? You prob put him on two over cards, right? Why call on the flop and let him draw to his overcards. On the flop I would check. Since he bet a small amount (150) I would raise to 450.

At this point i was starting to get a read on coltran and bridgemaster. I called preflop because i was in the big blind it was only 4 handed and i had to mix it up sometime. On the flop i took it that coltrain was either two overs or Ace and paired on the board. I didn't want to raise here because i was pretty sure i was on a draw and didn't want to commit too much. The river bet was week, and I would definately take that bet back. I had that gut feeling he had me but for some reason i still bet. :duh:

[Bama Gambler]

*********** # 117 **************
PokerStars Game #204114176: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2003/12/09 - 23:31:10 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (4648 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (7413 in chips)
Seat 8: bridgemaster (1439 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 50
SP0NGE: posts the ante 50
bridgemaster: posts the ante 50
tremco2: posts small blind 300
SP0NGE: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [6d 6s]
bridgemaster: folds
tremco2: raises 600 to 1200
SP0NGE: raises 600 to 1800
tremco2: raises 600 to 2400
SP0NGE: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [Ks 2c 8s]
tremco2: bets 600
SP0NGE: folds
tremco2 collected 4950 from pot
tremco2: shows [Ad As] (a pair of Aces)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4950 | Rake 0
Board [Ks 2c 8s]
Seat 3: tremco2 (small blind) collected (4950)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: bridgemaster (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Did yall switch to limit hold'em? :D I don't like the way tremco2 played this hand. What kind of hand did you put him on when he re-raised your re-raise? Where you just hoping to flop a set or be done with the hand? Or were you ready to go if no Ace or King showed up? I'm curious. I want to talk to Freeman about this hand.

[Bama Gambler]

*********** # 125 **************
PokerStars Game #204118896: Tournament #667068, Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2003/12/09 - 23:35:20 (ET)
Table '667068 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: tremco2 (9898 in chips)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (3602 in chips)
tremco2: posts the ante 50
SP0NGE: posts the ante 50
SP0NGE: posts small blind 300
tremco2: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ad Jd]
SP0NGE: raises 600 to 1200
tremco2: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [3c 4s Jc]
tremco2: bets 600
SP0NGE: raises 1752 to 2352 and is all-in
tremco2: calls 1752
Seat 3: tremco2 (big blind) showed [4h Qd] and won (7204)
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) (small blind) showed [Ad Jd]
*** TURN *** [3c 4s Jc] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [3c 4s Jc 6d] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tremco2: shows [4h Qd] (three of a kind, Fours)
SP0NGE: shows [Ad Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Fours)
SP0NGE said, "lol"
tremco2 said, "gg"
SP0NGE said, "gg"
tremco2 collected 7204 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7204 | Rake 0
Board [3c 4s Jc 6d 4d]
Seat 3: tremco2 (big blind) showed [4h Qd] and won (7204) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 4: SP0NGE (button) (small blind) showed [Ad Jd] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Fours Unlucky! Overall I say you played ok. I know you can play better. The hardest thing to is to keep that thinking cap on a the table. Pay attention to opponents stack size!! It's very helpful in putting them on a hand and even more helpful in deciding if they will call or fold. I used to have a BIG problem where I couldn't think when I was involved in a hand. For some reason my brain just shutdown. I would raise without reason and worse call without reason. I still can't anaylze a hand I'm involved in as well as I can when I'm not playing the hand. I'm getting better though.

[MNBridge]

OK I'll jump in here.

NL tourney Blind are at 1000 - 2000 about 80 people left out of 260. Everyone started with 4,000 (after rebuy) so average person has about 12,000 at this point.

Blind (6,000 ish) -- due to a player getting knocked out hand before there is only a big blind.
Bettor (18,000 ish)
Me (12,000) On button.

I figure if I can double up one more time I should have a decent chance at the money (23 spots).

Big Bling posts 2,000
Bettor makes it 5,000
Me --- AK --- I raise all in. The person who bet has been raising with Ax all day, I'm hoping this is what he has again and will lay it down or play (I don't really care at this point) and if he does have a pair I'm still at 50 / 50.
Big Blind folds.

He calls shows 10's, I'm gone.

Should I have played this differently?

I'm thinking he could have Ax which makes it very hard for me to bet any flop except Kxx or AKx. Because his second card could be anything, although I don't think he would play Kx, so a king flop should be good.

Actual flop came Jxx, turn x, river Q (The x's were not anything special and no flush possibilities.)

Thoughts?

[Expunge]

I agree with your analysis on hands 59,66. Although at this point i already had the impression that bridge was the weakest remaining, coltran was the next weakest, and myself and tremco were about equal. Some of this read obviously comes from the more boring and small pot hands.
Hand 80- tremco would have folded most hands in this situation pre flop. my raise preflop doen't really indicate that i would have benefitted from the flop. I took a chance that he was buying the pot on the river, and wanted to get a read on what that size of a bet after all those checks was for. Was it to steal or was it a chance he actually had it.
Thx for the compliment on 100.
Hand 117- His re-raise told me he had an absolute minimum of AQ. I called the reraise at this point trying to flop a set, maybe a go if i flop an open ended straight draw, but i was likely to bail at the flop. I used some substantial time before making either the call preflop or the fold on the flop. (actually think i had that phil ivey look into space thinking what he could have look on my face). At this point the blinds are big enough that the limit raises got the point across, yet were substantial enough to prevent weak calls. I thanked him for the show of the aces. I think my play was good here, maybe should have mucked after his reraise before the flop, but other that that getting out of a pair against AA two handed without losing all your chips is not too bad. This type of hand dooms most players that i have seen in a heads up situation.
125- do you agree the preflop raise was correct? If so what would you do on the flop? Would you fold this on the flop, just call? I was pretty sure he wasn't on 34, thats about the worst hand headsup. im not sure he calls even with j3 or j4. he could have had 33 or 44, but thats a risk you need to take. he either had 2 overcards, or made a pair on the board. Usually this calls for atleast a raise, the minimum raise leaves me with less than 1200 (with blinds 300/600 this leaves you reliant on luck to hit you with a couple of hands soon. i think it was a week call on his part as if he didn't outdraw i would have had the chip lead.

[Bama Gambler]

125- do you agree the preflop raise was correct?I think you played the final hand perfect, just got unlucky.

[Bama Gambler]

Thoughts?Tough. One VERY important point is he has more chips than you do. Also note if he is willing to put 5000 there he is not going to fold to an additional 7000. Since you know he will not fold to re-raise and calling for 5000 when you only have 12000 sounds pretty crazy to me, I think you have to fold this one. When the blinds are this high, I think you need to be the first one in the pot or have a VERY strong hand.

[Expunge]

OK I'll jump in here.

NL tourney Blind are at 1000 - 2000 about 80 people left out of 260. Everyone started with 4,000 (after rebuy) so average person has about 12,000 at this point.

Blind (6,000 ish) -- due to a player getting knocked out hand before there is only a big blind.
Bettor (18,000 ish)
Me (12,000) On button.

I figure if I can double up one more time I should have a decent chance at the money (23 spots).

Big Bling posts 2,000
Bettor makes it 5,000
Me --- AK --- I raise all in. The person who bet has been raising with Ax all day, I'm hoping this is what he has again and will lay it down or play (I don't really care at this point) and if he does have a pair I'm still at 50 / 50.
Big Blind folds.

He calls shows 10's, I'm gone.

Should I have played this differently?

I'm thinking he could have Ax which makes it very hard for me to bet any flop except Kxx or AKx. Because his second card could be anything, although I don't think he would play Kx, so a king flop should be good.

Actual flop came Jxx, turn x, river Q (The x's were not anything special and no flush possibilities.)

Thoughts?

Were you suited, i'm guessing not. This is where the blinds are too big for the average stack and bama and I will probabily disagree. One thing to remember about the average chip amount is that it is usually skewwed. There are almost always more players below the average than above.
Yet with the read you were getting off the bettor you probabily should have assumed he would call you with Ax and would have those 3 outs the whole hand. You definately take the chance that he has a pair and has you beat. If you stay in the pot i like your bet, to call means putting half your stack in without gaining information on the bettor. To raise a smaller amount is almost useless as it will get called by the bettor. To fold seems weak, but i'm guessing thats bamas suggestion.
Again I don't think in person tournaments get blinds this large compaired to average stack size, and therefore online tournies force you to take your chances. Maybe i should keep a closer eye on the blinds to avg chip stack when the wpt or wsop in on tv.

[Expunge]

Thinking about these tournament styles some more maybe we should look closer at the style of the two people to your right. If you have aggresive players to your right following bama's style you either have to get lucky and get good hands when they havn't raise to you, or you have to be the aggressor when the person to your right doesn't with less respect to the cards you get. This also relys on tight players to your left, and luck that they don't hit hands when your the aggressor. If you have more passive players to your right maybe bama's style is bettor. Now if the player to your right is weak regardless of style you may also be better to wait him out and see what happens with the new guy. If you have an aggressive player to your right maybe you are forced to gamble with pots that you are the favorite, but you may be out drawn.

[CAPTAIN_MORGAN]

... bettor...

ENGLISH ISN'T YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE IS IT? :(

BETTOR LUCK WITH YOU'RE NEXT POSTE

[FSAme]

... bettor...

ENGLISH ISN'T YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE IS IT? :(

BETTOR LUCK WITH YOU'RE NEXT POSTE

Is there way to screen out posts by certain users?

[Expunge]

... bettor...

ENGLISH ISN'T YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE IS IT? :(

BETTOR LUCK WITH YOU'RE NEXT POSTE


bet·tor also bet·ter ( P ) Pronunciation Key (btr)
n.
One that bets or places a bet.

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Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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bettor

\Bet"tor\, n. One who bets; a better. --Addison.


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


bettor

n : someone who bets [syn: better, wagerer, punter]



English sure is my first language, i make plenty of typos and spelling mistakes but this is not one of them.

better luck on your next post.

edited to quote the source.

[Bama Gambler]

The bottom line is you can't win a tournament from the rail. In other words, survival is the #1 goal. Period. Building your stack is #2. Expunge, you think all I do is wait for a good hand, but you are wrong. I wait for a good time. When someone with more chips than you puts 5000 into a pot b4 the flop and you have AK and 12,000 in chips and people are still left to act behind you, this is NOT a good time to put your chips in the middle. If I'm on the BB and everyone folds to me after this guy raised to 5,000 then I might put all my chips in the middle. Then I know it is head's up and most likely I'm at least 50/50. Now if MNPoker only had 5000 left to start the hand then he has to call since he is in the "danger zone". Now he has to gamble. With 12,000 it's not time to gamble. Wait for a hand where everyone folds to you and you can raise first! You don't need a hand to do this. I can tell a BIG weakness in your game is overplaying AK and JJ. AK and JJ are not calling hands (especially when you are not in danger). They are raising hands. They are hands you need to win uncontested.

[Expunge]

I understand what you are saying about timing, but with blinds as large as they are i'm not sure how long you can wait for a good time. especially when you have an agressive person to your right. at this point with what i'm guessing are 100 antes, he is already in the 3 rounds of poker before being blinded off. not including upcoming blind increases.

Maybe i've just hand a couple of bad experiences being patient waiting for the time, the time doesn't come, and i'm stuck with one round to go and even if i win in that round the blinds go up again and i still have one round to go.

[Bama Gambler]

He didn't say anything about antes, especially 100 antes. That would change a lot. The idea is this, if you keep putting your whole stack at risk on a coin flip you are going to bust out of a lot of tournaments before the money. If this guy raises every hand you have to go or even every other hand, but I doubt this is the case.

[Expunge]

Bama,

at what stage do you consider yourself in Danger. how many rounds of folding can you play? Does this increase / decrease when playing short handed ie 4 5 or 6 at your table. (either the final table or the second to final table)

[O. Hannah]

I'd try to get in at more tables with Bridgemaster. lol.

[Bama Gambler]

Bama,

at what stage do you consider yourself in Danger. how many rounds of folding can you play? Does this increase / decrease when playing short handed ie 4 5 or 6 at your table. (either the final table or the second to final table)We're still thinking on this one. I know it's more than a function of the blind sizes though. A big factor is the size of the stacks at your table. Can make a raise that will get enough respect to make people fold? If you can't then you are in danger.

[Expunge]

Bama,

at what stage do you consider yourself in Danger. how many rounds of folding can you play? Does this increase / decrease when playing short handed ie 4 5 or 6 at your table. (either the final table or the second to final table)We're still thinking on this one. I know it's more than a function of the blind sizes though. A big factor is the size of the stacks at your table. Can make a raise that will get enough respect to make people fold? If you can't then you are in danger.

I think this is where our disagreement is based, not in the overplaying of JJ and AK, i know what my odds are of winning those hands. Its just where i want to take my chances. In single tables i agree that making sure you cash is an important part of the strategy. In the standard multitable, i disagree, finishing just in the money gets your entry fee back, the money comes from finishing higher up. Although if you could guarantee finishing in the money in every tourny i'd take it.

[Bama Gambler]

finishing just in the money gets your entry fee back, the money comes from finishing higher up.I agree, but you have to make it to the money to finish higher up. You can gamble once you have made the money. If you stay around average until the money, it just takes two hands to go from average to chip leader. The middle part of the tournament is not for gambling. Average size stacks shouldn't gamble. Gambling is for small and large stacks.

[Expunge]

from the other thread, the tournament that i finished 6th in, i totally agree i over played AQ. After that i sat there patiently and watched the small stack outdraw not only on the Q9 but also he was all in with AT vs JJ and survived that as well. This results in me being pushed to or toward the small stack and being in danger.

Do you until you're in danger to start to act, or do you try to act just before you become in danger?

[Bama Gambler]

Do you until you're in danger to start to act, or do you try to act just before you become in danger?When I feel I'm getting close to danger I start thinking steal the blinds. First I look around the table and see who is most likely to fold their BB. Stack size, player's ability, and my position realitve to this player are very important. Then it's all about timing. If I'm really low then I need to be the first one in. If I getting close to low but not too low, then I might be able to make a move against one limper. You have to really step into the limper's shoes and ask is he willing to fold to a raise. If his stack is too big or too small, then he probably won't. If he won't then you have to fold your hand and look for another opportunity.

[MNBridge]

Think I'm going to have to agree wtih Bama on my hand. Should have folded, actually considered it (granted very breifly) before pushing all my chips in.

I got to the level I was at by picking off small stacks, but then when I got a good hand I paniced and thought AK I CAN"T fold AK!!

[Bama Gambler]

Think I'm going to have to agree wtih Bama on my hand. Should have folded, actually considered it (granted very breifly) before pushing all my chips in.

I got to the level I was at by picking off small stacks, but then when I got a good hand I paniced and thought AK I CAN"T fold AK!!I talked with Freeman about this hand. Intially he thought go all-in too. After I told him my reasoning he aggreed folding is the best move, with going all-in the 2nd best move.

[hardinda]

I talked with Freeman about this hand. Intially he thought go all-in too. After I told him my reasoning he aggreed folding is the best move, with going all-in the 2nd best move.

Bama, you are such a tight player - telling ppl to fold AK when they have 6x bb.

[Bama Gambler]

Bama, you are such a tight player - telling ppl to fold AK when they have 6x bb.:tup: