View Full Version : Hold 'em Tourney Hand History
FSAme
12-19-2003, 09:55 AM
For those that are interested, I've posted the hand history of the $30 NL ST tourney that I was in last night. This is the abridged version, but still rather long.... but It's only 26 hands.
I've included all hands that either knocked someone out, or that I had significant action in. I actually enjoy reading thru these, being the poker junkie that I am, so I'm sure others like it as well, but I could be wrong
Feel free to critique my play or to tell me never to post this stuff again......
enjoy.
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***** Hand History for Game 289908621 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:22:45 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: chazz2323 (725)
Seat 2: Score7 (785)
Seat 3: JOHNNYGWIZ (740)
Seat 4: FSAme (770)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (800)
Seat 6: hugap0rnstar (710)
Seat 7: exmarine (785)
Seat 8: Rook1 (880)
Seat 9: kor44 (775)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1030)
Score7 posts small blind (10)
JOHNNYGWIZ posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 2d, Qc ]
FSAme folds.
DollarThrill calls (15)
hugap0rnstar folds.
exmarine folds.
Rook1 folds.
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
chazz2323 calls (15)
Score7 calls (5)
JOHNNYGWIZ raises (110) to 125
DollarThrill calls (110)
chazz2323 folds.
Score7 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 2s, 4d ]
JOHNNYGWIZ checks.
DollarThrill checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9s ]
JOHNNYGWIZ checks.
DollarThrill checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ Ks ]
JOHNNYGWIZ bets (75)
DollarThrill raises (225) to 225
JOHNNYGWIZ raises (540) to 615
JOHNNYGWIZ calls all-In.
DollarThrill calls (390)
Creating Main Pot with $1510 with JOHNNYGWIZ
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1510 |
Board: [ Th 2s 4d 9s Ks ]
chazz2323 balance 710, lost 15 (folded)
Score7 balance 770, lost 15 (folded)
JOHNNYGWIZ balance 0, lost 740 [ Ts Tc ] [ three of a kind, tens --
Ks,Ts,Tc,Th,9s ]
FSAme balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
DollarThrill balance 1570, bet 740, collected 1510, net +770 [ Qh Js ] [
a straight, nine to king -- Ks,Qh,Js,Th,9s ]
hugap0rnstar balance 710, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 785, didn't bet (folded)
Rook1 balance 880, didn't bet (folded)
kor44 balance 775, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 1030, didn't bet (folded)
JOHNNYGWIZ finished in tenth place.
***** Hand History for Game 289912167 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:25:07 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: chazz2323 (710)
Seat 2: Score7 (770)
Seat 4: FSAme (755)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (785)
Seat 6: hugap0rnstar (710)
Seat 7: exmarine (1585)
Seat 8: Rook1 (880)
Seat 9: kor44 (775)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1030)
DollarThrill posts small blind (10)
hugap0rnstar posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Td, Ac ]
exmarine calls (15)
Rook1 raises (150) to 150
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo calls (150)
chazz2323 calls (150)
Score7 folds.
FSAme folds.
DollarThrill folds.
hugap0rnstar folds.
exmarine folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4h, 4s, Js ]
Rook1 bets (150)
papageorgeo calls (150)
chazz2323 raises (300) to 300
Rook1 folds.
papageorgeo calls (150)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3c ]
papageorgeo checks.
chazz2323 bets (260)
chazz2323 calls all-In.
papageorgeo calls (260)
** Dealing River ** : [ 6h ]
Creating Main Pot with $1760 with chazz2323
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1760 |
Board: [ 4h 4s Js 3c 6h ]
chazz2323 balance 0, lost 710 [ Th Jh ] [ two pairs, jacks and fours --
Jh,Js,Th,4h,4s ]
Score7 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 755, didn't bet (folded)
DollarThrill balance 775, lost 10 (folded)
hugap0rnstar balance 695, lost 15 (folded)
exmarine balance 1570, lost 15 (folded)
Rook1 balance 580, lost 300 (folded)
kor44 balance 775, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2080, bet 710, collected 1760, net +1050 [ Qd Jd ] [
two pairs, jacks and fours with queen kicker -- Qd,Jd,Js,4h,4s ]
chazz2323 finished in ninth place.
***** Hand History for Game 289914072 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:26:23 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: Score7 (770)
Seat 4: FSAme (755)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (775)
Seat 6: hugap0rnstar (695)
Seat 7: exmarine (1570)
Seat 8: Rook1 (580)
Seat 9: kor44 (775)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2080)
hugap0rnstar posts small blind (10)
exmarine posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9s, Ad ]
Rook1 folds.
kor44 calls (15)
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (15)
DollarThrill calls (15)
hugap0rnstar calls (5)
exmarine checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4d, 7h, Tc ]
hugap0rnstar bets (30)
exmarine folds.
kor44 folds.
FSAme calls (30)
DollarThrill folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8d ]
hugap0rnstar bets (45)
FSAme calls (45)
** Dealing River ** : [ Qh ]
hugap0rnstar bets (45)
FSAme folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 270
Board: [ 4d 7h Tc 8d Qh ]
Score7 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 665, lost 90 (folded)
DollarThrill balance 760, lost 15 (folded)
hugap0rnstar balance 830, bet 135, collected 270, net +135
exmarine balance 1555, lost 15 (folded)
Rook1 balance 580, didn't bet (folded)
kor44 balance 760, lost 15 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2080, didn't bet (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289915255 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:27:09 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: Score7 (770)
Seat 4: FSAme (665)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (760)
Seat 6: hugap0rnstar (830)
Seat 7: exmarine (1555)
Seat 8: Rook1 (580)
Seat 9: kor44 (760)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2080)
exmarine posts small blind (10)
Rook1 posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Ts, Tc ]
kor44 raises (30) to 30
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (30)
DollarThrill folds.
hugap0rnstar folds.
exmarine folds.
Rook1 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qh, Ad, 9s ]
kor44 bets (50)
FSAme calls (50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
kor44 bets (15)
FSAme calls (15)
** Dealing River ** : [ Kc ]
kor44 bets (500)
FSAme folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 715
Board: [ Qh Ad 9s 5h Kc ]
Score7 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 570, lost 95 (folded)
DollarThrill balance 760, didn't bet (folded)
hugap0rnstar balance 830, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 1545, lost 10 (folded)
Rook1 balance 565, lost 15 (folded)
kor44 balance 880, bet 595, collected 715, net +120
papageorgeo balance 2080, didn't bet (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289927389 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:35:11 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: Score7 (1030)
Seat 4: FSAme (525)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (725)
Seat 6: hugap0rnstar (560)
Seat 7: exmarine (1485)
Seat 8: Rook1 (400)
Seat 9: kor44 (970)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2305)
kor44 posts small blind (15)
papageorgeo posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 6s, As ]
Score7 calls (30)
FSAme calls (30)
DollarThrill folds.
hugap0rnstar raises (150) to 150
exmarine calls (150)
Rook1 folds.
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (120)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9h, 7c, 8s ]
FSAme bets (375)
FSAme calls all-In.
hugap0rnstar calls (375)
exmarine folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2c ]
Creating Main Pot with $1275 with FSAme
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1275 |
Board: [ 9h 7c 8s 5h 2c ]
Score7 balance 1000, lost 30 (folded)
FSAme balance 1275, bet 525, collected 1275, net +750 [ 6s As ] [
a straight, five to nine -- 9h,8s,7c,6s,5h ]
DollarThrill balance 725, didn't bet (folded)
hugap0rnstar balance 35, lost 525 [ Ac Kd ] [ high card ace --
Ac,Kd,9h,8s,7c ]
exmarine balance 1335, lost 150 (folded)
Rook1 balance 400, didn't bet (folded)
kor44 balance 955, lost 15 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2275, lost 30 (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289928946 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:36:13 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: Score7 (1000)
Seat 4: FSAme (1275)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (725)
Seat 6: hugap0rnstar (35)
Seat 7: exmarine (1335)
Seat 8: Rook1 (400)
Seat 9: kor44 (955)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2275)
papageorgeo posts small blind (15)
Score7 posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9d, 3c ]
FSAme folds.
DollarThrill calls (30)
hugap0rnstar raises (35) to 35
hugap0rnstar calls all-In.
exmarine calls (35)
Rook1 calls (35)
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo calls (20)
Score7 calls (5)
DollarThrill calls (5)
Creating Main Pot with $210 with hugap0rnstar
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9s, As, Tc ]
papageorgeo checks.
Score7 checks.
DollarThrill bets (125)
exmarine folds.
Rook1 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ts ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6h ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 210 | Side Pot 1: 125
Board: [ 9s As Tc Ts 6h ]
Score7 balance 965, lost 35 (folded)
FSAme balance 1275, didn't bet (folded)
DollarThrill balance 900, bet 160, collected 335, net +175 [ Ac 4s ] [
two pairs, aces and tens -- Ac,As,Tc,Ts,9s ]
hugap0rnstar balance 0, lost 35 [ 3d Qs ] [ a pair of tens --
As,Qs,Tc,Ts,9s ]
exmarine balance 1300, lost 35 (folded)
Rook1 balance 365, lost 35 (folded)
kor44 balance 955, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2240, lost 35 (folded)
hugap0rnstar finished in eighth place.
***** Hand History for Game 289930372 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:37:10 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Score7 (965)
Seat 4: FSAme (1275)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (900)
Seat 7: exmarine (1300)
Seat 8: Rook1 (365)
Seat 9: kor44 (955)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2240)
Score7 posts small blind (25)
FSAme posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 4d, 6d ]
DollarThrill folds.
exmarine folds.
Rook1 folds.
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 75
Score7 balance 940, lost 25 (folded)
FSAme balance 1300, bet 50, collected 75, net +25 [ 4d 6d ] [ high
card six -- 6d,4d ]
DollarThrill balance 900, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 1300, didn't bet (folded)
Rook1 balance 365, didn't bet (folded)
kor44 balance 955, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2240, didn't bet (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289930681 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:37:22 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Score7 (940)
Seat 4: FSAme (1300)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (900)
Seat 7: exmarine (1300)
Seat 8: Rook1 (365)
Seat 9: kor44 (955)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2240)
FSAme posts small blind (25)
DollarThrill posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9s, Qd ]
exmarine folds.
Rook1 folds.
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme raises (75) to 100
DollarThrill calls (50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7c, 3h, 8d ]
FSAme bets (250)
DollarThrill folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 450
Board: [ 7c 3h 8d ]
Score7 balance 940, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 1400, bet 350, collected 450, net +100
DollarThrill balance 800, lost 100 (folded)
exmarine balance 1300, didn't bet (folded)
Rook1 balance 365, didn't bet (folded)
kor44 balance 955, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2240, didn't bet (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289932188 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:38:22 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Score7 (940)
Seat 4: FSAme (1400)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (700)
Seat 7: exmarine (1450)
Seat 8: Rook1 (365)
Seat 9: kor44 (905)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2240)
exmarine posts small blind (25)
Rook1 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9d, Td ]
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (50)
DollarThrill folds.
exmarine calls (25)
Rook1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ts, 5c, 3h ]
exmarine bets (50)
Rook1 folds.
FSAme raises (100) to 100
exmarine folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
Board: [ Ts 5c 3h ]
Score7 balance 940, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 1550, bet 150, collected 300, net +150 [ 9d Td ] [ a
pair of tens -- Td,Ts,9d,5c,3h ]
DollarThrill balance 700, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 1350, lost 100 (folded)
Rook1 balance 315, lost 50 (folded)
kor44 balance 905, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2240, didn't bet (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289938926 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:42:47 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Score7 (815)
Seat 4: FSAme (1475)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (895)
Seat 7: exmarine (1575)
Seat 8: Rook1 (630)
Seat 9: kor44 (805)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1805)
DollarThrill posts small blind (25)
exmarine posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Kc, Qd ]
Rook1 folds.
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (50)
DollarThrill calls (25)
exmarine checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6h, Th, 7h ]
DollarThrill checks.
exmarine bets (225)
FSAme folds.
DollarThrill folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 375
Board: [ 6h Th 7h ]
Score7 balance 815, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 1425, lost 50 (folded)
DollarThrill balance 845, lost 50 (folded)
exmarine balance 1675, bet 275, collected 375, net +100 [ 9h 8d ] [ a
straight, six to ten -- Th,9h,8d,7h,6h ]
Rook1 balance 630, didn't bet (folded)
kor44 balance 805, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 1805, didn't bet (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289939885 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:43:26 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Score7 (815)
Seat 4: FSAme (1425)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (845)
Seat 7: exmarine (1675)
Seat 8: Rook1 (630)
Seat 9: kor44 (805)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1805)
exmarine posts small blind (50)
Rook1 posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9h, 6c ]
FSAme: nice
kor44 raises (300) to 300
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme folds.
exmarine: ty
DollarThrill calls (300)
exmarine folds.
Rook1 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5c, 2s, As ]
exmarine: take them when i can get them
kor44 bets (505)
kor44 calls all-In.
DollarThrill calls (505)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Js ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Ah ]
Creating Main Pot with $1760 with kor44
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1760 |
Board: [ 5c 2s As Js Ah ]
Score7 balance 815, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 1425, didn't bet (folded)
DollarThrill balance 1800, bet 805, collected 1760, net +955 [ Ac Tc ] [
three of a kind, aces -- Ac,As,Ah,Js,Tc ]
exmarine balance 1625, lost 50 (folded)
Rook1 balance 530, lost 100 (folded)
kor44 balance 0, lost 805 [ 7h 7c ] [ two pairs, aces and sevens --
As,Ah,Js,7h,7c ]
papageorgeo balance 1805, didn't bet (folded)
kor44 finished in seventh place.
***** Hand History for Game 289940995 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:44:10 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Score7 (815)
Seat 4: FSAme (1425)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (1800)
Seat 7: exmarine (1625)
Seat 8: Rook1 (530)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1805)
Rook1 posts small blind (50)
papageorgeo posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Ad, Jd ]
FSAme: had to with that flush draw
Score7 folds.
FSAme raises (350) to 350
DollarThrill folds.
exmarine folds.
Rook1 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
exmarine: that did worry me!
** Summary **
Main Pot: 500
Score7 balance 815, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 1575, bet 350, collected 500, net +150 [ Ad Jd ] [
high card ace -- Ad,Jd ]
DollarThrill balance 1800, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 1625, didn't bet (folded)
Rook1 balance 480, lost 50 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 1705, lost 100 (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289942214 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:44:57 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Score7 (715)
Seat 4: FSAme (1575)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (1800)
Seat 7: exmarine (1625)
Seat 8: Rook1 (480)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1805)
Score7 posts small blind (50)
FSAme posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Qc, 7c ]
DollarThrill folds.
FSAme: I guess
exmarine: on dial up?
exmarine folds.
Rook1 folds.
Score7: ok
papageorgeo raises (200) to 200
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (100)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, Qh, 4s ]
FSAme bets (200)
papageorgeo calls (200)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kd ]
FSAme bets (400)
papageorgeo folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1250
Board: [ Ac Qh 4s Kd ]
Score7 balance 665, lost 50 (folded)
FSAme balance 2025, bet 800, collected 1250, net +450
DollarThrill balance 1800, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 1625, didn't bet (folded)
Rook1 balance 480, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 1405, lost 400 (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289944564 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:46:32 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Score7 (665)
Seat 4: FSAme (1975)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (1400)
Seat 7: exmarine (1625)
Seat 8: Rook1 (480)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1855)
DollarThrill posts small blind (50)
exmarine posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 3d, Qd ]
Rook1 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme raises (250) to 250
DollarThrill folds.
exmarine calls (150)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jc, 4h, Th ]
exmarine bets (100)
FSAme calls (100)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ As ]
exmarine bets (225)
FSAme folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 975
Board: [ Jc 4h Th As ]
Score7 balance 665, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 1625, lost 350 (folded)
DollarThrill balance 1350, lost 50 (folded)
exmarine balance 2025, bet 575, collected 975, net +400 [ Ah Tc ] [ two
pairs, aces and tens -- Ah,As,Jc,Tc,Th ]
Rook1 balance 480, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 1855, didn't bet (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289949939 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:50:00 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Score7 (515)
Seat 4: FSAme (1425)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (1450)
Seat 7: exmarine (2325)
Seat 8: Rook1 (480)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1805)
DollarThrill posts small blind (100)
exmarine posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 3d, Kd ]
Rook1 raises (480) to 480
Rook1 calls all-In.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme folds.
DollarThrill folds.
exmarine calls (280)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4d, 3s, 2d ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
Creating Main Pot with $1060 with Rook1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1060 |
Board: [ 4d 3s 2d 8d Qd ]
Score7 balance 515, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 1425, didn't bet (folded)
DollarThrill balance 1350, lost 100 (folded)
exmarine balance 2905, bet 480, collected 1060, net +580 [ 9s Ad ] [ a
flush, ace high -- Ad,Qd,8d,4d,2d ]
Rook1 balance 0, lost 480 [ Ah 6c ] [ high card ace -- Ah,Qd,8d,6c,4d ]
papageorgeo balance 1805, didn't bet (folded)
Rook1 finished in sixth place.
***** Hand History for Game 289950614 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:50:26 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: Score7 (515)
Seat 4: FSAme (1425)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (1350)
Seat 7: exmarine (2905)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1805)
exmarine posts small blind (100)
papageorgeo posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 7h, 4c ]
FSAme: nh
FSAme: lucky one
Score7 raises (400) to 400
FSAme folds.
DollarThrill folds.
exmarine: almost folded
exmarine folds.
papageorgeo calls (200)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Tc, Td, 9h ]
papageorgeo bets (475)
Score7 calls (115)
Score7 calls all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qh ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6s ]
Creating Main Pot with $1130 with Score7
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1130 | Side Pot 1: 360
Board: [ Tc Td 9h Qh 6s ]
Score7 balance 0, lost 515 [ 8d Ah ] [ a pair of tens -- Ah,Qh,Tc,Td,9h
]
FSAme balance 1425, didn't bet (folded)
DollarThrill balance 1350, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 2805, lost 100 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2420, bet 875, collected 1490, net +615 [ Th Kh ] [
three of a kind, tens -- Kh,Qh,Th,Tc,Td ]
Score7 finished in fifth place.
***** Hand History for Game 289951644 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:51:05 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: FSAme (1425)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (1350)
Seat 7: exmarine (2805)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2420)
papageorgeo posts small blind (100)
FSAme posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 7h, 4d ]
DollarThrill folds.
exmarine folds.
papageorgeo calls (100)
FSAme checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2s, 9s, 3d ]
papageorgeo checks.
FSAme checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ts ]
papageorgeo bets (500)
FSAme folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
Board: [ 2s 9s 3d Ts ]
FSAme balance 1225, lost 200 (folded)
DollarThrill balance 1350, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 2805, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2620, bet 700, collected 900, net +200
***** Hand History for Game 289954570 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:52:59 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: FSAme (1225)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (1050)
Seat 7: exmarine (2505)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (3220)
FSAme posts small blind (100)
DollarThrill posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Ks, Qh ]
exmarine folds.
papageorgeo folds.
FSAme raises (500) to 600
DollarThrill folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 800
FSAme balance 1425, bet 600, collected 800, net +200
DollarThrill balance 850, lost 200 (folded)
exmarine balance 2505, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 3220, didn't bet (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289956490 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:54:17 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: FSAme (1125)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (650)
Seat 7: exmarine (3005)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (3220)
FSAme posts small blind (150)
DollarThrill posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 6c, Ad ]
exmarine folds.
papageorgeo folds.
FSAme raises (750) to 900
DollarThrill calls (350)
DollarThrill calls all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7s, 8c, 8h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Jd ]
Creating Main Pot with $1300 with DollarThrill
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1300 | Side Pot 1: 250
Board: [ 7s 8c 8h 8s Jd ]
FSAme balance 1775, bet 900, collected 1550, net +650 [ 6c Ad ] [
three of a kind, eights with ace kicker -- Ad,Jd,8c,8h,8s ]
DollarThrill balance 0, lost 650 [ 3c 2d ] [ three of a kind, eights --
Jd,8c,8h,8s,7s ]
exmarine balance 3005, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 3220, didn't bet (folded)
DollarThrill finished in fourth place.
***** Hand History for Game 289958201 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:55:26 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: FSAme (1475)
Seat 7: exmarine (3755)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2770)
FSAme posts small blind (150)
exmarine posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Jc, 6d ]
papageorgeo folds.
FSAme raises (1325) to 1475
FSAme calls all-In.
exmarine folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1775 with FSAme
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1775
FSAme balance 1775, bet 1475, collected 1775, net +300
exmarine balance 3455, lost 300 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2770, didn't bet (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289958661 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:55:45 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: FSAme (1775)
Seat 7: exmarine (3455)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2770)
exmarine posts small blind (150)
papageorgeo posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 4d, 2h ]
FSAme folds.
exmarine calls (150)
papageorgeo checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, Jd, 3s ]
exmarine bets (300)
papageorgeo raises (600) to 600
exmarine calls (300)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qs ]
exmarine bets (300)
papageorgeo calls (300)
** Dealing River ** : [ Js ]
exmarine bets (300)
papageorgeo calls (300)
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3000
Board: [ Td Jd 3s Qs Js ]
FSAme balance 1775, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 1955, lost 1500 [ 3c Kd ] [ two pairs, jacks and threes
-- Kd,Jd,Js,3c,3s ]
papageorgeo balance 4270, bet 1500, collected 3000, net +1500 [ Jc 8c ] [
three of a kind, jacks -- Qs,Jc,Jd,Js,Td ]
***** Hand History for Game 289959874 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:56:33 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: FSAme (1775)
Seat 7: exmarine (1955)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (4270)
papageorgeo posts small blind (150)
FSAme posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9s, Ad ]
exmarine raises (1955) to 1955
exmarine calls all-In.
papageorgeo folds.
FSAme calls (1475)
FSAme calls all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, Th, Ts ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Js ]
Creating Main Pot with $3700 with FSAme
Creating Side Pot 1 with $180 with exmarine
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3700 | Side Pot 1: 180
Board: [ Ac Th Ts 2d Js ]
FSAme balance 1850, bet 1775, collected 1850, net +75 [ 9s Ad ] [
two pairs, aces and tens -- Ad,Ac,Js,Th,Ts ]
exmarine balance 2030, bet 1955, collected 2030, net +75 [ 7h Ah ] [ two
pairs, aces and tens -- Ah,Ac,Js,Th,Ts ]
papageorgeo balance 4120, lost 150 (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289960629 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:57:03 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: FSAme (1850)
Seat 7: exmarine (2030)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (4120)
FSAme posts small blind (150)
exmarine posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 8d, 9d ]
papageorgeo calls (300)
FSAme raises (1700) to 1850
FSAme calls all-In.
exmarine folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2450 with FSAme
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2450
FSAme balance 2450, bet 1850, collected 2450, net +600
exmarine balance 1730, lost 300 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 3820, lost 300 (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289961599 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:57:43 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: FSAme (2450)
Seat 7: exmarine (1730)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (3820)
exmarine posts small blind (150)
papageorgeo posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Th, 5h ]
FSAme raises (2450) to 2450
FSAme calls all-In.
exmarine folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2900 with FSAme
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2900
FSAme balance 2900, bet 2450, collected 2900, net +450
exmarine balance 1580, lost 150 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 3520, lost 300 (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 289962021 *****
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:57:59 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: FSAme (2900)
Seat 7: exmarine (1580)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (3520)
papageorgeo posts small blind (200)
FSAme posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 8c, 8h ]
exmarine raises (1580) to 1580
exmarine calls all-In.
papageorgeo folds.
FSAme calls (1180)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5d, 7s, 3c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
Creating Main Pot with $3360 with exmarine
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3360 |
Board: [ 5d 7s 3c 9d 6c ]
FSAme balance 4680, bet 1580, collected 3360, net +1780 [ 8c 8h ]
[ a straight, five to nine -- 9d,8c,7s,6c,5d ]
exmarine balance 0, lost 1580 [ As 9h ] [ a pair of nines --
As,9h,9d,7s,6c ]
papageorgeo balance 3320, lost 200 (folded)
exmarine finished in third place and won $60.
***** Hand History for Game 289962694 *****
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:58:27 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: FSAme (4680)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (3320)
FSAme posts small blind (200)
papageorgeo posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9d, Kh ]
FSAme raises (4480) to 4680
FSAme calls all-In.
papageorgeo calls (2920)
papageorgeo calls all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 4s, 3s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9h ]
Creating Main Pot with $6640 with papageorgeo
Creating Side Pot 1 with $1360 with FSAme
** Summary **
Main Pot: 6640 | Side Pot 1: 1360
Board: [ Th 4s 3s 6h 9h ]
FSAme balance 8000, bet 4680, collected 8000, net +3320 [ 9d Kh ]
[ a pair of nines -- Kh,Th,9d,9h,6h ]
papageorgeo balance 0, lost 3320 [ Qs Jh ] [ high card queen --
Qs,Jh,Th,9h,6h ]
papageorgeo finished in second place and won $90.
FSAme is the Champion of this tournament and wins $150.
Expunge
12-19-2003, 10:37 AM
Only got a little way through it...
Ad9s hand. not a great starting hand, if you play it, i wouldn't suggest chasing it post flop.
TsTc. I don't suggest chasing this to the river when the flop has 2 over cards. (especially any ace)
As6s. I don't know if i call the fairly large raise preflop. Post flop given your situation isn't a terrible play. I wouls suspect that you buy the pot more times than not, but the majority of time that you get called you will be against an overpair. btw nice draw.
T-roy Boy
12-19-2003, 10:39 AM
Can't wait to play you! Geezus did you EVER get lucky
FSAme
12-19-2003, 10:49 AM
Can't wait to play you! Geezus did you EVER get lucky
Anytime. You name the price and place and I'll be there.
I'll admit, this was one of my luckier tourneys, but I did at least play a few smart hands that padded my chip count to get me in a position to win.
I'll agree it takes smart play to make it far in a tourney, but a lot of luck is needed to win these single tables - especially the way the blinds creep up so fast.
FSAme
12-19-2003, 10:59 AM
Only got a little way through it...
Ad9s hand. not a great starting hand, if you play it, i wouldn't suggest chasing it post flop.
TsTc. I don't suggest chasing this to the river when the flop has 2 over cards. (especially any ace)
As6s. I don't know if i call the fairly large raise preflop. Post flop given your situation isn't a terrible play. I wouls suspect that you buy the pot more times than not, but the majority of time that you get called you will be against an overpair. btw nice draw.
Ad9s - I agree, the only reason I stayed in was the small bet post flop and then the outside straight draw (and an A) as an out on the river. but still, not one I should have been in from the start
TsTc - I agree again, but I was going to bluff big on the river and he beat me to it. I still don't think he had anything.....
As6s - hadn't seen anything in a while and I was fairly short stacked, felt I needed to make a move, and was prepared to bluff this hand - my patented "slowplay bluff" :D . But, when I saw the flop, had to gamble a little. Figured I'd buy the pot, or beat the overpair, got lucky.
Expunge
12-19-2003, 11:30 AM
9sQd good buy nice play
9dTd i would have made a small preflop raise. (ie raise to 2x BB)
KcQd same as prior hand
AdJd maybe too big of a bet, but you do want to win this preflop, depends on your read of the others
Qc7c risky bet on turn good thing he didn't have anything strong, again your read of the others is important.
Qd3d question the call on the flop.
KsQh same as AdJd
Ad6c - not sure what opponent was doing calling all his money with 32off, not much worse that this heads up.
O. Hannah
12-19-2003, 11:47 AM
The first hand was hillarious. Flops 3x10's and then doesnt bet them...with possible str AND flush draws after the turn. :crazy:
What's even funnier is the guy probably complained to his friends that he got "Bad Beat"....which was not the case here.
Expunge
12-19-2003, 12:01 PM
The first hand was hillarious. Flops 3x10's and then doesnt bet them...with possible str AND flush draws after the turn. :crazy:
What's even funnier is the guy probably complained to his friends that he got "Bad Beat"....which was not the case here.
I agree since he got a fair amount of money in the pot pre flop he needed to make a decent maybe 150 bet on the flop. Take the money you built up preflop.
The slowplay isn't the best option here but it could work, but then with the turn opening up so many possibilites you need to bet large enough that it doesn't pay to chase a straight or flush. The ideal situation of the slowplay is giveing the turn free, having it come as an over and then getting your trips to pay off.
3rookie
12-19-2003, 12:24 PM
Very enjoyable. Is it typical to steal that many blinds when down to 3 players?
Expunge
12-19-2003, 12:40 PM
Very enjoyable. Is it typical to steal that many blinds when down to 3 players?
It depends on how many hands inbetween that he deleted. You can steal with an all in bet but each time you try it you run the risk of a blind having a hand. This strategy heavily depends on the opponents you are playinga against.
Ive been down to heads up action where raising from the sb made the opponent fold 60% of the time, therefore i raised on litterally every hand from the sb. in addition the opponent would fold about 60% of the time from the bb. When he stayed in i just needed to make sure i flopped something.
when you get to heads up you have to feel your opponent out to see just how much he will fold. You'll get players that fight back and will call and reraise you most of the time.
FSAme
12-19-2003, 12:43 PM
Very enjoyable. Is it typical to steal that many blinds when down to 3 players?
I did it more than my "normal" amount in this tourney, solely based on the style of play of these two. They were playing pretty tight and aggressive when they had hands. I figured the odds were on my side that they wouldn't be dealt strong hands and would fold. If they had strong hands they would raise, not just call - that's why I tried to steal the one in game #289960629....
O. Hannah
12-19-2003, 02:15 PM
What is your logic of going all in towards them to force them to fold as opposed to something like 1000ish? (I'm not nitpicking)
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 02:22 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289914072 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:26:23 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: Score7 (770)
Seat 4: FSAme (755)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (775)
Seat 6: hugap0rnstar (695)
Seat 7: exmarine (1570)
Seat 8: Rook1 (580)
Seat 9: kor44 (775)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2080)
hugap0rnstar posts small blind (10)
exmarine posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9s, Ad ]
Rook1 folds.
kor44 calls (15)
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (15)
DollarThrill calls (15)
hugap0rnstar calls (5)
exmarine checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4d, 7h, Tc ]
hugap0rnstar bets (30)
exmarine folds.
kor44 folds.
FSAme calls (30)
DollarThrill folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8d ]
hugap0rnstar bets (45)
FSAme calls (45)
** Dealing River ** : [ Qh ]
hugap0rnstar bets (45)
FSAme folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 270
Board: [ 4d 7h Tc 8d Qh ]
Score7 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 665, lost 90 (folded)
DollarThrill balance 760, lost 15 (folded)
hugap0rnstar balance 830, bet 135, collected 270, net +135
exmarine balance 1555, lost 15 (folded)
Rook1 balance 580, didn't bet (folded)
kor44 balance 760, lost 15 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2080, didn't bet (folded)
This is a loose call pre-flop. What are you hoping to flop? An ace could really hurt you. Maybe a flop of 9xx? Then overcards can easily hurt you. A9x? This could REALLY hurt you, if someone with AK, AQ, or AJ calls you and the hits on the turn or river. Best solution, fold this hand preflop.
Why did you call on the flop? What were you drawing to? An Ace? The bettor may have AT and you could have been drawing dead.
On the turn you picked up an open-ended str draw. Ok now your call on the turn is not too bad, since you have 8 good outs, possibly 3 more (aces).
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 02:26 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289915255 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:27:09 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: Score7 (770)
Seat 4: FSAme (665)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (760)
Seat 6: hugap0rnstar (830)
Seat 7: exmarine (1555)
Seat 8: Rook1 (580)
Seat 9: kor44 (760)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2080)
exmarine posts small blind (10)
Rook1 posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Ts, Tc ]
kor44 raises (30) to 30
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (30)
DollarThrill folds.
hugap0rnstar folds.
exmarine folds.
Rook1 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qh, Ad, 9s ]
kor44 bets (50)
FSAme calls (50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
kor44 bets (15)
FSAme calls (15)
** Dealing River ** : [ Kc ]
kor44 bets (500)
FSAme folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 715
Board: [ Qh Ad 9s 5h Kc ]
Score7 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 570, lost 95 (folded)
DollarThrill balance 760, didn't bet (folded)
hugap0rnstar balance 830, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 1545, lost 10 (folded)
Rook1 balance 565, lost 15 (folded)
kor44 balance 880, bet 595, collected 715, net +120
papageorgeo balance 2080, didn't bet (folded)
I don't mind your call pre-flop. You put the raiser on AK and play accordingly, but if an ace or king flop you have to fold. In this case two overcards flop and your hand is basically worthless. With this hand, if one king or queen flops and he bets a small amount then I might raise 3 or 4 times what he bet and try to pick up the pot. If he re-raises you have to fold. If he calls then you are looking for a ten on the turn or you are done with the hand. Hopefully if he just calls your raise then you can see the turn and the river for free. This hand was played weak-tight (the worst possible strategy for tournaments).
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 02:34 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289927389 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:35:11 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: Score7 (1030)
Seat 4: FSAme (525)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (725)
Seat 6: hugap0rnstar (560)
Seat 7: exmarine (1485)
Seat 8: Rook1 (400)
Seat 9: kor44 (970)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2305)
kor44 posts small blind (15)
papageorgeo posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 6s, As ]
Score7 calls (30)
FSAme calls (30)
DollarThrill folds.
hugap0rnstar raises (150) to 150
exmarine calls (150)
Rook1 folds.
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (120)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9h, 7c, 8s ]
FSAme bets (375)
FSAme calls all-In.
hugap0rnstar calls (375)
exmarine folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2c ]
Creating Main Pot with $1275 with FSAme
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1275 |
Board: [ 9h 7c 8s 5h 2c ]
Score7 balance 1000, lost 30 (folded)
FSAme balance 1275, bet 525, collected 1275, net +750 [ 6s As ] [
a straight, five to nine -- 9h,8s,7c,6s,5h ]
DollarThrill balance 725, didn't bet (folded)
hugap0rnstar balance 35, lost 525 [ Ac Kd ] [ high card ace --
Ac,Kd,9h,8s,7c ]
exmarine balance 1335, lost 150 (folded)
Rook1 balance 400, didn't bet (folded)
kor44 balance 955, lost 15 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2275, lost 30 (folded) Ok, you are a small stack with 525. You have to be careful. You can't afford to play drawing hands. One missed drawing hand and you are extremely low. Calling from middle position with A6s is EXTREMELY dangerous! Then when hugap0rnstar raised to 150 and someone else called you have to fold. You committed 23% (28.5% in total) of your stack with A6!! What if an Ace flops? Can you feel good? Hell no! You are facing a raiser and a caller. The only flops that look good with this hand (given the pre-flop action) are A6x and xxx (all spades). I don't think you want to call 120 drawing to those two flops.
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 02:43 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289930681 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:37:22 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Score7 (940)
Seat 4: FSAme (1300)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (900)
Seat 7: exmarine (1300)
Seat 8: Rook1 (365)
Seat 9: kor44 (955)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2240)
FSAme posts small blind (25)
DollarThrill posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9s, Qd ]
exmarine folds.
Rook1 folds.
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme raises (75) to 100
DollarThrill calls (50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7c, 3h, 8d ]
FSAme bets (250)
DollarThrill folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 450
Board: [ 7c 3h 8d ]
Score7 balance 940, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 1400, bet 350, collected 450, net +100
DollarThrill balance 800, lost 100 (folded)
exmarine balance 1300, didn't bet (folded)
Rook1 balance 365, didn't bet (folded)
kor44 balance 955, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2240, didn't bet (folded) If you had a bigger stack, then I would LOVE this play! But given your stack size and the BB's stack size, I don't think it makes much sense. When everyone folds to you, then you think to yourself "How much will it cost me to steal this pot?" Ok I have to raise b4 the flop (at least double) - that'll cost 75. Then if he calls the pot will be 200. Now I need a crummy flop or I need to hit. Then I have to bet at least the pot - 200. That's a minimum of 275 or 22% of my stack. Do I need to make this play to stay alive? The answer is no. So you risked 22% of your stack with Q8 offsuit, when you didn't have to. Oh and since he only has 900 he might steal back and I have to fold pre-flop. Or he might trap me. Fold this one and go on to the next hand. If he has a larger stack and so do you then you can make this play.
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 02:49 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289932188 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:38:22 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Score7 (940)
Seat 4: FSAme (1400)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (700)
Seat 7: exmarine (1450)
Seat 8: Rook1 (365)
Seat 9: kor44 (905)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2240)
exmarine posts small blind (25)
Rook1 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9d, Td ]
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (50)
DollarThrill folds.
exmarine calls (25)
Rook1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ts, 5c, 3h ]
exmarine bets (50)
Rook1 folds.
FSAme raises (100) to 100
exmarine folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
Board: [ Ts 5c 3h ]
Score7 balance 940, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 1550, bet 150, collected 300, net +150 [ 9d Td ] [ a
pair of tens -- Td,Ts,9d,5c,3h ]
DollarThrill balance 700, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 1350, lost 100 (folded)
Rook1 balance 315, lost 50 (folded)
kor44 balance 905, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2240, didn't bet (folded) Take control of the pot pre-flop with a raise or just fold. I would raise, but folding is ok. Calling is weak. On the flop, I would put exmarine on a steal, two overcards, or maybe middle pair. You don't want him to call with two overcards so I think you should have raised more. From the results, he must have been on a steal otherwise he would have called your small raise. You want to win this one the flop right there. I would have raised to 150 or 200. If you get any resistence, then slow down. He could have flopped trips, have AT, or an overpair (least likely).
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 02:53 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289938926 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:42:47 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Score7 (815)
Seat 4: FSAme (1475)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (895)
Seat 7: exmarine (1575)
Seat 8: Rook1 (630)
Seat 9: kor44 (805)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1805)
DollarThrill posts small blind (25)
exmarine posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Kc, Qd ]
Rook1 folds.
kor44 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (50)
DollarThrill calls (25)
exmarine checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6h, Th, 7h ]
DollarThrill checks.
exmarine bets (225)
FSAme folds.
DollarThrill folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 375
Board: [ 6h Th 7h ]
Score7 balance 815, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 1425, lost 50 (folded)
DollarThrill balance 845, lost 50 (folded)
exmarine balance 1675, bet 275, collected 375, net +100 [ 9h 8d ] [ a
straight, six to ten -- Th,9h,8d,7h,6h ]
Rook1 balance 630, didn't bet (folded)
kor44 balance 805, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 1805, didn't bet (folded)
I would only limp from the button if I planned to steal on the flop. Limping keeps the pot smaller and costs you less to steal on the flop. Plus limping from the button (when everyone else folded) can show strength. Was this what you were thinking? I hope you weren't thinking, "I have a good hand but not great so I'll just see what the flop brings." That's what a gambler thinks, but you want to be a player not a gambler. I prob. would have raised 3x or called with the intention of betting the flop if checked to me.
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 02:59 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289942214 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:44:57 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Score7 (715)
Seat 4: FSAme (1575)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (1800)
Seat 7: exmarine (1625)
Seat 8: Rook1 (480)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1805)
Score7 posts small blind (50)
FSAme posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Qc, 7c ]
DollarThrill folds.
FSAme: I guess
exmarine: on dial up?
exmarine folds.
Rook1 folds.
Score7: ok
papageorgeo raises (200) to 200
Score7 folds.
FSAme calls (100)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, Qh, 4s ]
FSAme bets (200)
papageorgeo calls (200)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kd ]
FSAme bets (400)
papageorgeo folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1250
Board: [ Ac Qh 4s Kd ]
Score7 balance 665, lost 50 (folded)
FSAme balance 2025, bet 800, collected 1250, net +450
DollarThrill balance 1800, didn't bet (folded)
exmarine balance 1625, didn't bet (folded)
Rook1 balance 480, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 1405, lost 400 (folded) Put that trash in the muck, it can only get you in trouble. How could you bet the turn when he called you on the flop? VERY risky. This guy has you covered and you called preflop with Q7, then you bet into an Ace get called and bet 34% of your stack on the turn when a King comes. Please don't tell me you called preflop b/c it was suited!! Suited cards mean next to nothing heads-up. You play suited cards to draw and you only draw when you have odds.
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 03:03 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289944564 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:46:32 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Score7 (665)
Seat 4: FSAme (1975)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (1400)
Seat 7: exmarine (1625)
Seat 8: Rook1 (480)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (1855)
DollarThrill posts small blind (50)
exmarine posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 3d, Qd ]
Rook1 folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Score7 folds.
FSAme raises (250) to 250
DollarThrill folds.
exmarine calls (150)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jc, 4h, Th ]
exmarine bets (100)
FSAme calls (100)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ As ]
exmarine bets (225)
FSAme folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 975
Board: [ Jc 4h Th As ]
Score7 balance 665, didn't bet (folded)
FSAme balance 1625, lost 350 (folded)
DollarThrill balance 1350, lost 50 (folded)
exmarine balance 2025, bet 575, collected 975, net +400 [ Ah Tc ] [ two
pairs, aces and tens -- Ah,As,Jc,Tc,Th ]
Rook1 balance 480, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 1855, didn't bet (folded)I don't mind the pre-flop raise, but why call on the flop? What are you drawing to? Were you planning to steal on the turn if he checked?
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 03:10 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289954570 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:52:59 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: FSAme (1225)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (1050)
Seat 7: exmarine (2505)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (3220)
FSAme posts small blind (100)
DollarThrill posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Ks, Qh ]
exmarine folds.
papageorgeo folds.
FSAme raises (500) to 600
DollarThrill folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 800
FSAme balance 1425, bet 600, collected 800, net +200
DollarThrill balance 850, lost 200 (folded)
exmarine balance 2505, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 3220, didn't bet (folded) Does the size of this raise make sense? Doubt he would just call the additional 400 and leave himself with 400. Why not raise all-in or raise less? What is the goal of your raise? Do you want him to fold? Do you want him to call? Do you want him to play back? Will you call if he plays back? All these questions need to be answered before you raise. Why did you raise to 600? I would have prob raised to 400. This would make him fold complete trash (which I want him to do) and would give me the option of folding if he comes over the top. When you raised to 600 you committed yourself. Always try to leave yourself outs.
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 03:18 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289956490 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:54:17 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: FSAme (1125)
Seat 5: DollarThrill (650)
Seat 7: exmarine (3005)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (3220)
FSAme posts small blind (150)
DollarThrill posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 6c, Ad ]
exmarine folds.
papageorgeo folds.
FSAme raises (750) to 900
DollarThrill calls (350)
DollarThrill calls all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7s, 8c, 8h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Jd ]
Creating Main Pot with $1300 with DollarThrill
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1300 | Side Pot 1: 250
Board: [ 7s 8c 8h 8s Jd ]
FSAme balance 1775, bet 900, collected 1550, net +650 [ 6c Ad ] [
three of a kind, eights with ace kicker -- Ad,Jd,8c,8h,8s ]
DollarThrill balance 0, lost 650 [ 3c 2d ] [ three of a kind, eights --
Jd,8c,8h,8s,7s ]
exmarine balance 3005, didn't bet (folded)
papageorgeo balance 3220, didn't bet (folded)
DollarThrill finished in fourth place. WTF was he thinking? Your play was fine.
Macroman
12-19-2003, 03:23 PM
let's see what it takes to get page 2.
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 03:23 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289958201 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:55:26 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: FSAme (1475)
Seat 7: exmarine (3755)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (2770)
FSAme posts small blind (150)
exmarine posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Jc, 6d ]
papageorgeo folds.
FSAme raises (1325) to 1475
FSAme calls all-In.
exmarine folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1775 with FSAme
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1775
FSAme balance 1775, bet 1475, collected 1775, net +300
exmarine balance 3455, lost 300 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 2770, didn't bet (folded) I don't like this play. It just screams I'm stealing. If you had a good hand you would try to trap him. Now he will call with lots of hands. Were you tired of playing? Did you feel like gambling?
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 03:26 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289959874 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:56:33 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: FSAme (1775)
Seat 7: exmarine (1955)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (4270)
papageorgeo posts small blind (150)
FSAme posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9s, Ad ]
exmarine raises (1955) to 1955
exmarine calls all-In.
papageorgeo folds.
FSAme calls (1475)
FSAme calls all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, Th, Ts ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Js ]
Creating Main Pot with $3700 with FSAme
Creating Side Pot 1 with $180 with exmarine
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3700 | Side Pot 1: 180
Board: [ Ac Th Ts 2d Js ]
FSAme balance 1850, bet 1775, collected 1850, net +75 [ 9s Ad ] [
two pairs, aces and tens -- Ad,Ac,Js,Th,Ts ]
exmarine balance 2030, bet 1955, collected 2030, net +75 [ 7h Ah ] [ two
pairs, aces and tens -- Ah,Ac,Js,Th,Ts ]
papageorgeo balance 4120, lost 150 (folded)
I wouldn't have made this call, but maybe you had a read on him. I'm only reading hands that you played and I'm not really paying attention to other player's names, so I don't have a read on any of the players.
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 03:27 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289960629 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:57:03 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: FSAme (1850)
Seat 7: exmarine (2030)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (4120)
FSAme posts small blind (150)
exmarine posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 8d, 9d ]
papageorgeo calls (300)
FSAme raises (1700) to 1850
FSAme calls all-In.
exmarine folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2450 with FSAme
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2450
FSAme balance 2450, bet 1850, collected 2450, net +600
exmarine balance 1730, lost 300 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 3820, lost 300 (folded) You've got balls! I'll give you that. I just consider this gambling.
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 03:29 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289961599 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:57:43 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: FSAme (2450)
Seat 7: exmarine (1730)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (3820)
exmarine posts small blind (150)
papageorgeo posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ Th, 5h ]
FSAme raises (2450) to 2450
FSAme calls all-In.
exmarine folds.
papageorgeo folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2900 with FSAme
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2900
FSAme balance 2900, bet 2450, collected 2900, net +450
exmarine balance 1580, lost 150 (folded)
papageorgeo balance 3520, lost 300 (folded) Ok this is getting out of hand. At this point, if I was one of the other players I would be LOVING it. I love it when players keep going all-in like this. I just have to wait for Ax or better (maybe any two big cards), then I bust 'em.
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 03:32 PM
***** Hand History for Game 289962694 *****
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1634552) - Thu Dec
18 21:58:27 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3581 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: FSAme (4680)
Seat 10: papageorgeo (3320)
FSAme posts small blind (200)
papageorgeo posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FSAme [ 9d, Kh ]
FSAme raises (4480) to 4680
FSAme calls all-In.
papageorgeo calls (2920)
papageorgeo calls all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 4s, 3s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9h ]
Creating Main Pot with $6640 with papageorgeo
Creating Side Pot 1 with $1360 with FSAme
** Summary **
Main Pot: 6640 | Side Pot 1: 1360
Board: [ Th 4s 3s 6h 9h ]
FSAme balance 8000, bet 4680, collected 8000, net +3320 [ 9d Kh ]
[ a pair of nines -- Kh,Th,9d,9h,6h ]
papageorgeo balance 0, lost 3320 [ Qs Jh ] [ high card queen --
Qs,Jh,Th,9h,6h ] Why? Why? Why?
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 03:32 PM
let's see what it takes to get page 2.I'm done!
Macroman
12-19-2003, 03:39 PM
let's see what it takes to get page 2.I'm done!
well done, Bama. I thought the first page would go on forever.
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 04:08 PM
Anyone even reading my hand anaylsis? No debates? No discussion? Come on people this is how we get better.
Macroman
12-19-2003, 04:14 PM
Anyone even reading my hand anaylsis? No debates? No discussion? Come on people this is how we get better.
I don't play poker, and I think we're the only posters left today.
I can definitely see where the repeated all-in bets leave you very vulnerable, and the pair on the last hand was a little lucky. I don't know that FSAme had a better option though considering that he was starting considerably down on the other players. He mostly bluffed his way through to having the biggest bankroll then wiped out the competition with a little luck.
3rookie
12-19-2003, 04:28 PM
I appreciate your comments, BG. I only have some limited $1-$2 limit experience, so I don't have much to offer. I will say that the transition from online NL to in-person NL must be very difficult.
1. When playing online poker, do you (anybody) use a cheat sheet of hands that you'll generally play depending on position and # of players, or is it all ingrained in your mind after a while?
2. Do some of these hands really last just 10 seconds?
Bama Gambler
12-19-2003, 04:33 PM
I appreciate your comments, BG.Thanks
I will say that the transition from online NL to in-person NL must be very difficult.Depends. Some of the online NL tournaments (200 buy-in) are VERY tough. Lots of pros play in them.
1. When playing online poker, do you (anybody) use a cheat sheet of hands that you'll generally play depending on position and # of players, or is it all ingrained in your mind after a while?I don't, but I don't see why a beginner couldn't use a "cheat" sheet.
2. Do some of these hands really last just 10 seconds?Yes, that's the beauty of online tournaments. You can play many more hands per hour. This helps reduce some of the luck. I would say 15 minutes online equals about 40 minutes IRL.
O. Hannah
12-19-2003, 05:03 PM
I agree with your comments Bama.
We had a guy at play money table go all in 3x in a row...won them all with absolute JUNK. I got dealt an AK when he went for 4 in a row.....the sucker had 46 nonsuited...drew into a straight and left the table with my chips.
Pretty funny, it was play money after all.
Dr T Non-Fan
12-19-2003, 05:20 PM
Anyone even reading my hand anaylsis? No debates? No discussion? Come on people this is how we get better.
How can we debate it? It was thorough and correct. We're all getting better, thanks to you!
Near the end, I think inpatience sets in. Nerves get frazzled and all. Not that I know much about this. Just speculating.
RedSoxFan
12-19-2003, 07:57 PM
I want to thank BG for the analysis too. I've just started playing online (I've played in person before). My observations so far is that a lot of the players play real loose, so just playing tight in general will get you decent results.
Expunge
12-19-2003, 08:22 PM
Anyone even reading my hand anaylsis? No debates? No discussion? Come on people this is how we get better.
You mimiced most of my comments. Plus i was out of the office this afternoon.
Expunge
12-19-2003, 08:55 PM
***** Hand History for Game 291278324 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642018) - Fri Dec 19 20:09:44 EST 2003
Table Multi-Table(6406) Table 34 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Winjer23 (1125)
Seat 2: THEROCKET (865)
Seat 3: hammer7001 (825)
Seat 4: mike1950 (1210)
Seat 5: littlerivers (1020)
Seat 6: adelphia2000 (1090)
Seat 7: alltheway14 (975)
Seat 8: thebat (990)
Seat 9: Fishyboy (955)
Seat 10: fsufan (945)
Winjer23 posts small blind (10)
THEROCKET posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to littlerivers [ Ts, As ]
hammer7001 raises (30) to 30
mike1950 calls (30)
littlerivers calls (30)
adelphia2000 folds.
alltheway14 folds.
thebat folds.
Fishyboy folds.
fsufan calls (30)
Winjer23 folds.
THEROCKET calls (15)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6s, 7s, 2h ]
THEROCKET checks.
hammer7001 bets (200)
mike1950 folds.
littlerivers raises (990) to 990
littlerivers calls all-In.
fsufan folds.
THEROCKET folds.
hammer7001 calls (595)
hammer7001 calls all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kd ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6h ]
Creating Main Pot with $1750 with hammer7001
Creating Side Pot 1 with $195 with littlerivers
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1750 | Side Pot 1: 195
Board: [ 6s 7s 2h Kd 6h ]
Winjer23 balance 1115, lost 10 (folded)
THEROCKET balance 835, lost 30 (folded)
hammer7001 balance 1750, bet 825, collected 1750, net +925 [ 9h 9c ] [ two pairs, nines and sixes -- Kd,9h,9c,6s,6h ]
mike1950 balance 1180, lost 30 (folded)
littlerivers balance 195, bet 1020, collected 195, lost -825 [ Ts As ] [ a pair of sixes -- As,Kd,Ts,6s,6h ]
adelphia2000 balance 1090, didn't bet (folded)
alltheway14 balance 975, didn't bet (folded)
thebat balance 990, didn't bet (folded)
Fishyboy balance 955, didn't bet (folded)
fsufan balance 915, lost 30 (folded)
I can't believe i got called by someone with 99
RedSoxFan
12-20-2003, 12:49 AM
Bama Gambler (or anyone else), if you have a few minutes, can you look over some of my hands? I'm kind of stuck in a rut: i've finished either 4th or 5th in each of my last six games. So I wonder if there is a flaw with my play.
I included some hands from my most recent game where I finished 4th. I copied most of the hands that weren't obvious pre-flop folds starting when there are about six people left, and I included some interesting hands before then.
Everyone is welcome to comment/ criticize my play. Thanks! I inserted some comments, all of which starting with "---"
Also, what books do you guys recommend? I have brunson's Super System and skimmed through the chapter on NL hold-em.
***** Hand History for Game 291355730 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:02:15 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1765)
Seat 3: MKasmarick (195)
Seat 4: craw3 (675)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2300)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (780)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (785)
Seat 9: ur24sell (820)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (680)
ur24sell posts small blind (15)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 2c, Ks ]
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
MKasmarick folds.
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 calls (30)
quickdog77 calls (30)
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (15)
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7s, Td, 7h ]
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
quickdog77 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7d ]
ur24sell bets (30)
RedSoxFan calls (30)
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 folds.
quickdog77 calls (30)
** Dealing River ** : [ Kh ]
ur24sell bets (30)
RedSoxFan raises (90) to 90
craw3 folds.
quickdog77 folds.
ur24sell folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 390
Board: [ 7s Td 7h 7d Kh ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1765, didn't bet (folded)
MKasmarick balance 195, didn't bet (folded)
craw3 balance 615, lost 60 (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2270, lost 30 (folded)
quickdog77 balance 720, lost 60 (folded)
CharlesLS balance 785, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 730, lost 90 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 920, bet 150, collected 390, net +240
--- limped in with big blind. everyone checked on the flop and suddenly there were two pair on the board, so I figured nobody had anything. I assumed from how people bet on the river that nobody had an A, so with a K I had the high card. was that the right thinking?
***** Hand History for Game 291360822 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:05:44 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1885)
Seat 3: MKasmarick (105)
Seat 4: craw3 (615)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2270)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (660)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (785)
Seat 9: ur24sell (730)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (950)
MKasmarick posts small blind (15)
craw3 posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Ks, Kd ]
dkuf811 calls (30)
quickdog77 folds.
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (30)
RedSoxFan raises (60) to 60
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
MKasmarick folds.
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 calls (30)
ur24sell calls (30)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, Kc, 5d ]
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan bets (30)
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 folds.
ur24sell calls (30)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5s ]
craw3 checks.
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan bets (60)
craw3 calls (60)
ur24sell folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
craw3 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (250)
craw3 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 715
Board: [ Qc Kc 5d 5s 6c ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1885, didn't bet (folded)
MKasmarick balance 90, lost 15 (folded)
craw3 balance 465, lost 150 (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2210, lost 60 (folded)
quickdog77 balance 660, didn't bet (folded)
CharlesLS balance 785, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 640, lost 90 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1265, bet 400, collected 715, net +315
--- i knew i pretty much had the nuts on the flop. didn't want to bet so high as to get people to fold, but i still wanted to make some money. did i take a good middle road?
***** Hand History for Game 291367628 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:10:22 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (2035)
Seat 4: craw3 (15)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2000)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (1275)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (710)
Seat 9: ur24sell (610)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1355)
ur24sell posts small blind (15)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Jc, Ts ]
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
craw3 folds.
dkuf811 calls (30)
quickdog77 folds.
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (15)
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, Qd, Js ]
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan bets (30)
dkuf811 calls (30)
ur24sell calls (30)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan bets (70)
dkuf811 folds.
ur24sell raises (150) to 150
RedSoxFan calls (80)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5h ]
ur24sell bets (400)
ur24sell calls all-In.
RedSoxFan folds.
Creating Main Pot with $880 with ur24sell
** Summary **
Main Pot: 880
Board: [ Ac Qd Js Td 5h ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2035, didn't bet (folded)
craw3 balance 15, didn't bet (folded)
dkuf811 balance 1940, lost 60 (folded)
quickdog77 balance 1275, didn't bet (folded)
CharlesLS balance 710, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 880, bet 610, collected 880, net +270
RedSoxFan balance 1145, lost 210 (folded)
--- yeah, i know i have two pair, but the way he betted i put him on a better two pair. was that a good guess?
***** Hand History for Game 291372848 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:13:52 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1935)
Seat 4: craw3 (290)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (1880)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (880)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (710)
Seat 9: ur24sell (1210)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1095)
craw3 posts small blind (25)
dkuf811 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Ks, 9d ]
quickdog77 calls (50)
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (50)
RedSoxFan folds.
DMBJUNKIE3 calls (50)
craw3 calls (25)
dkuf811 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5h, 5c, 6d ]
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
quickdog77 checks.
ur24sell checks.
DMBJUNKIE3 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ts ]
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
quickdog77 checks.
ur24sell checks.
DMBJUNKIE3 checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 2c ]
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
quickdog77 checks.
ur24sell checks.
DMBJUNKIE3 checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 250
Board: [ 5h 5c 6d Ts 2c ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2135, bet 50, collected 250, net +200 [ 2h Ah ] [ two pairs, fives and twos -- Ah,5h,5c,2h,2c ]
craw3 balance 240, lost 50 [ 8h 9h ] [ a pair of fives -- Ts,9h,8h,5h,5c ]
dkuf811 balance 1830, lost 50 [ 3d Ac ] [ a pair of fives with ace kicker -- Ac,Ts,6d,5h,5cAc(kicker card) ]
quickdog77 balance 830, lost 50 [ 9s Jd ] [ a pair of fives with jack kicker -- Jd,Ts,9s,5h,5cJd(kicker card) ]
CharlesLS balance 710, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 1160, lost 50 [ Qh 3h ] [ a pair of fives with queen kicker -- Qh,Ts,6d,5h,5cQh(kicker card) ]
RedSoxFan balance 1095, didn't bet (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 291373942 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:14:37 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (2135)
Seat 4: craw3 (240)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (1830)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (830)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (710)
Seat 9: ur24sell (1160)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1095)
dkuf811 posts small blind (25)
quickdog77 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 4h, Ah ]
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
craw3 folds.
dkuf811 calls (25)
quickdog77 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4s, 3d, Th ]
dkuf811 bets (50)
quickdog77 folds.
ur24sell calls (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7s ]
dkuf811 bets (175)
ur24sell folds.
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 525
Board: [ 4s 3d Th 7s ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2135, didn't bet (folded)
craw3 balance 240, didn't bet (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2080, bet 275, collected 525, net +250
quickdog77 balance 780, lost 50 (folded)
CharlesLS balance 710, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 1060, lost 100 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 995, lost 100 (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 291382179 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:20:14 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1460)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2485)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (2425)
Seat 9: ur24sell (735)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (895)
CharlesLS posts small blind (50)
ur24sell posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Qh, 8h ]
RedSoxFan calls (100)
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
dkuf811 calls (100)
CharlesLS calls (50)
ur24sell checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, Jh, Th ]
CharlesLS bets (250)
ur24sell folds.
RedSoxFan calls (250)
dkuf811 calls (250)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ac ]
CharlesLS checks.
RedSoxFan bets (545)
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
dkuf811 folds.
CharlesLS folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1695 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1695
Board: [ 3h Jh Th Ac ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1460, didn't bet (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2135, lost 350 (folded)
CharlesLS balance 2075, lost 350 (folded)
ur24sell balance 635, lost 100 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1695, bet 895, collected 1695, net +800
--- was that right to call pre-flop? did i play it ok after the flop?
***** Hand History for Game 291383687 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:21:16 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1460)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2135)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (2075)
Seat 9: ur24sell (635)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1695)
ur24sell posts small blind (50)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Td, Jc ]
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
dkuf811 raises (325) to 325
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell folds.
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 475
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1460, didn't bet (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2285, bet 325, collected 475, net +150
CharlesLS balance 2075, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 585, lost 50 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1595, lost 100 (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 291385111 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:22:12 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1360)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2285)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (2225)
Seat 9: ur24sell (585)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1545)
DMBJUNKIE3 posts small blind (50)
dkuf811 posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Js, As ]
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell folds.
RedSoxFan raises (200) to 200
DMBJUNKIE3 calls (150)
dkuf811 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9h, Kc, Qh ]
DMBJUNKIE3 bets (100)
RedSoxFan calls (100)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3s ]
DMBJUNKIE3 bets (1060)
DMBJUNKIE3 calls all-In.
RedSoxFan folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1760 with DMBJUNKIE3
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1760
Board: [ 9h Kc Qh 3s ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1760, bet 1360, collected 1760, net +400
dkuf811 balance 2185, lost 100 (folded)
CharlesLS balance 2225, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 585, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1245, lost 300 (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 291386605 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:23:13 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1760)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2485)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (2125)
Seat 9: ur24sell (385)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1245)
CharlesLS posts small blind (50)
ur24sell posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Th, Jh ]
RedSoxFan raises (200) to 200
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
dkuf811 calls (200)
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell raises (200) to 300
RedSoxFan calls (100)
dkuf811 calls (100)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 4s, Ad ]
ur24sell bets (85)
ur24sell calls all-In.
RedSoxFan folds.
dkuf811 calls (85)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 8c ]
Creating Main Pot with $1120 with ur24sell
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1120 |
Board: [ Qc 4s Ad 2d 8c ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1760, didn't bet (folded)
dkuf811 balance 3220, bet 385, collected 1120, net +735 [ 4c 4h ] [ three of a kind, fours -- Ad,Qc,4c,4h,4s ]
CharlesLS balance 2075, lost 50 (folded)
ur24sell balance 0, lost 385 [ Tc Td ] [ a pair of tens -- Ad,Qc,Tc,Td,8c ]
RedSoxFan balance 945, lost 300 (folded)
ur24sell finished in fifth place.
--- two overcards on the flop killed my chances. should i even play TJs with only four people left?
***** Hand History for Game 291388636 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:24:36 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1860)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (3220)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (2075)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (845)
dkuf811 posts small blind (50)
CharlesLS posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Kc, Td ]
RedSoxFan calls (100)
DMBJUNKIE3 calls (100)
dkuf811 calls (50)
CharlesLS checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, 7s, 4h ]
dkuf811 bets (100)
CharlesLS folds.
RedSoxFan calls (100)
DMBJUNKIE3 calls (100)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qs ]
dkuf811 checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
DMBJUNKIE3 checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 3c ]
dkuf811 checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
DMBJUNKIE3 bets (100)
dkuf811 calls (100)
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
Board: [ 9c 7s 4h Qs 3c ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2460, bet 300, collected 900, net +600 [ Th Tc ] [ a pair of tens -- Qs,Th,Tc,9c,7s ]
dkuf811 balance 2920, lost 300 [ 8d 7h ] [ a pair of sevens -- Qs,9c,8d,7h,7s ]
CharlesLS balance 1975, lost 100 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 645, lost 200 (folded)
--- probably a mistake to call post-flop. i was feeling lucky for some reason.
***** Hand History for Game 291390080 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:25:34 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (2460)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2920)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (1975)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (645)
CharlesLS posts small blind (50)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Qc, Ad ]
DMBJUNKIE3 calls (100)
dkuf811 folds.
CharlesLS calls (50)
RedSoxFan raises (545) to 645
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
CharlesLS folds.
Creating Main Pot with $845 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 845
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2360, lost 100 (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2920, didn't bet (folded)
CharlesLS balance 1875, lost 100 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 845, bet 645, collected 845, net +200
***** Hand History for Game 291390703 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:26:00 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (2360)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2920)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (1875)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (845)
RedSoxFan posts small blind (100)
DMBJUNKIE3 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Qh, 7h ]
dkuf811 folds.
CharlesLS folds.
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2460, bet 200, collected 300, net +100
dkuf811 balance 2920, didn't bet (folded)
CharlesLS balance 1875, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 745, lost 100 (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 291391268 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:26:23 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (2460)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2920)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (1875)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (745)
DMBJUNKIE3 posts small blind (100)
dkuf811 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 9d, Ah ]
CharlesLS folds.
RedSoxFan raises (745) to 745
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
dkuf811 calls (545)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, Jh, 8s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2d ]
Creating Main Pot with $1590 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1590 |
Board: [ 8d Jh 8s 6h 2d ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2360, lost 100 (folded)
dkuf811 balance 3765, bet 745, collected 1590, net +845 [ Td Th ] [ two pairs, tens and eights -- Jh,Td,Th,8d,8s ]
CharlesLS balance 1875, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 0, lost 745 [ 9d Ah ] [ a pair of eights -- Ah,Jh,9d,8d,8s ]
RedSoxFan finished in fourth place.
Expunge
12-20-2003, 10:14 AM
Bama Gambler (or anyone else), if you have a few minutes, can you look over some of my hands? I'm kind of stuck in a rut: i've finished either 4th or 5th in each of my last six games. So I wonder if there is a flaw with my play.
I included some hands from my most recent game where I finished 4th. I copied most of the hands that weren't obvious pre-flop folds starting when there are about six people left, and I included some interesting hands before then.
Everyone is welcome to comment/ criticize my play. Thanks! I inserted some comments, all of which starting with "---"
Also, what books do you guys recommend? I have brunson's Super System and skimmed through the chapter on NL hold-em.
***** Hand History for Game 291355730 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:02:15 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1765)
Seat 3: MKasmarick (195)
Seat 4: craw3 (675)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2300)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (780)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (785)
Seat 9: ur24sell (820)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (680)
ur24sell posts small blind (15)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 2c, Ks ]
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
MKasmarick folds.
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 calls (30)
quickdog77 calls (30)
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (15)
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7s, Td, 7h ]
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
quickdog77 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7d ]
ur24sell bets (30)
RedSoxFan calls (30)
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 folds.
quickdog77 calls (30)
** Dealing River ** : [ Kh ]
ur24sell bets (30)
RedSoxFan raises (90) to 90
craw3 folds.
quickdog77 folds.
ur24sell folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 390
Board: [ 7s Td 7h 7d Kh ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1765, didn't bet (folded)
MKasmarick balance 195, didn't bet (folded)
craw3 balance 615, lost 60 (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2270, lost 30 (folded)
quickdog77 balance 720, lost 60 (folded)
CharlesLS balance 785, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 730, lost 90 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 920, bet 150, collected 390, net +240
--- limped in with big blind. everyone checked on the flop and suddenly there were two pair on the board, so I figured nobody had anything. I assumed from how people bet on the river that nobody had an A, so with a K I had the high card. was that the right thinking?
I don't like the call on the turn. Someone still likely has an ace but is scared of a 10. The only card that helps now is a K thats a 3outer, you got lucky to hit it. This is also a type of hand that is slowplayed on the turn when someone has the case 7 as free cards bring absolutely no worries and it could hit someones overpair making them think they have it.
***** Hand History for Game 291360822 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:05:44 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1885)
Seat 3: MKasmarick (105)
Seat 4: craw3 (615)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2270)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (660)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (785)
Seat 9: ur24sell (730)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (950)
MKasmarick posts small blind (15)
craw3 posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Ks, Kd ]
dkuf811 calls (30)
quickdog77 folds.
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (30)
RedSoxFan raises (60) to 60
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
MKasmarick folds.
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 calls (30)
ur24sell calls (30)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, Kc, 5d ]
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan bets (30)
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 folds.
ur24sell calls (30)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5s ]
craw3 checks.
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan bets (60)
craw3 calls (60)
ur24sell folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
craw3 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (250)
craw3 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 715
Board: [ Qc Kc 5d 5s 6c ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1885, didn't bet (folded)
MKasmarick balance 90, lost 15 (folded)
craw3 balance 465, lost 150 (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2210, lost 60 (folded)
quickdog77 balance 660, didn't bet (folded)
CharlesLS balance 785, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 640, lost 90 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1265, bet 400, collected 715, net +315
--- i knew i pretty much had the nuts on the flop. didn't want to bet so high as to get people to fold, but i still wanted to make some money. did i take a good middle road?
This is nl or limit? it says nl. KK with 2 limps before it gets to you preflop. raise to atleast 90 if not 120. lots of players chase just an ace so if just an ace hits you need to get out of this hand. don't let them in so cheaply, obviously they will call one more bet. On the flop your bet of 30 got 2 callers, a bet of 60 that gets one caller is better as you have one less person that can out draw you. I would have bet equal to my preflop raise. The danger on the flop especially with so many players is the flush or the straight. don't give them pot odds to draw out.
The turn against one opponent, he's got either got Kx Qx JT AxClubs or possibly even 5x. This is where i might check because you now did nut up, even if he catches the flush or straight you got him.
The river bet should be equal to 1/2 the pot or 1x the pot. Plus he acted first and the check on the turn gives him a chance to bet the river.
***** Hand History for Game 291367628 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:10:22 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (2035)
Seat 4: craw3 (15)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2000)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (1275)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (710)
Seat 9: ur24sell (610)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1355)
ur24sell posts small blind (15)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Jc, Ts ]
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
craw3 folds.
dkuf811 calls (30)
quickdog77 folds.
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (15)
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, Qd, Js ]
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan bets (30)
dkuf811 calls (30)
ur24sell calls (30)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan bets (70)
dkuf811 folds.
ur24sell raises (150) to 150
RedSoxFan calls (80)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5h ]
ur24sell bets (400)
ur24sell calls all-In.
RedSoxFan folds.
Creating Main Pot with $880 with ur24sell
** Summary **
Main Pot: 880
Board: [ Ac Qd Js Td 5h ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2035, didn't bet (folded)
craw3 balance 15, didn't bet (folded)
dkuf811 balance 1940, lost 60 (folded)
quickdog77 balance 1275, didn't bet (folded)
CharlesLS balance 710, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 880, bet 610, collected 880, net +270
RedSoxFan balance 1145, lost 210 (folded)
--- yeah, i know i have two pair, but the way he betted i put him on a better two pair. was that a good guess?
I would guess he had the king. I think its a good laydown. In nl its usually more prudent to lay down right away after the raise that scares you. If you call your not getting odds, and he probabily isn't going to allow you to see for sure that he has the straight cheaply. could have saved yourself 80 here.
***** Hand History for Game 291372848 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:13:52 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1935)
Seat 4: craw3 (290)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (1880)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (880)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (710)
Seat 9: ur24sell (1210)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1095)
craw3 posts small blind (25)
dkuf811 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Ks, 9d ]
quickdog77 calls (50)
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (50)
RedSoxFan folds.
DMBJUNKIE3 calls (50)
craw3 calls (25)
dkuf811 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5h, 5c, 6d ]
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
quickdog77 checks.
ur24sell checks.
DMBJUNKIE3 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ts ]
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
quickdog77 checks.
ur24sell checks.
DMBJUNKIE3 checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 2c ]
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
quickdog77 checks.
ur24sell checks.
DMBJUNKIE3 checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 250
Board: [ 5h 5c 6d Ts 2c ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2135, bet 50, collected 250, net +200 [ 2h Ah ] [ two pairs, fives and twos -- Ah,5h,5c,2h,2c ]
craw3 balance 240, lost 50 [ 8h 9h ] [ a pair of fives -- Ts,9h,8h,5h,5c ]
dkuf811 balance 1830, lost 50 [ 3d Ac ] [ a pair of fives with ace kicker -- Ac,Ts,6d,5h,5cAc(kicker card) ]
quickdog77 balance 830, lost 50 [ 9s Jd ] [ a pair of fives with jack kicker -- Jd,Ts,9s,5h,5cJd(kicker card) ]
CharlesLS balance 710, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 1160, lost 50 [ Qh 3h ] [ a pair of fives with queen kicker -- Qh,Ts,6d,5h,5cQh(kicker card) ]
RedSoxFan balance 1095, didn't bet (folded)
***** Hand History for Game 291373942 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:14:37 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (2135)
Seat 4: craw3 (240)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (1830)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (830)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (710)
Seat 9: ur24sell (1160)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1095)
dkuf811 posts small blind (25)
quickdog77 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 4h, Ah ]
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
craw3 folds.
dkuf811 calls (25)
quickdog77 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4s, 3d, Th ]
dkuf811 bets (50)
quickdog77 folds.
ur24sell calls (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7s ]
dkuf811 bets (175)
ur24sell folds.
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 525
Board: [ 4s 3d Th 7s ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2135, didn't bet (folded)
craw3 balance 240, didn't bet (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2080, bet 275, collected 525, net +250
quickdog77 balance 780, lost 50 (folded)
CharlesLS balance 710, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 1060, lost 100 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 995, lost 100 (folded)
I don't mind the play here. A4 is a hand you're look for atleast 2 pair likely the flush or a pair of 4's on the board. The danger is if the turn comes a heart instead you still must lay down to the sizeable bet.
***** Hand History for Game 291382179 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:20:14 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1460)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2485)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (2425)
Seat 9: ur24sell (735)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (895)
CharlesLS posts small blind (50)
ur24sell posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Qh, 8h ]
RedSoxFan calls (100)
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
dkuf811 calls (100)
CharlesLS calls (50)
ur24sell checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, Jh, Th ]
CharlesLS bets (250)
ur24sell folds.
RedSoxFan calls (250)
dkuf811 calls (250)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ac ]
CharlesLS checks.
RedSoxFan bets (545)
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
dkuf811 folds.
CharlesLS folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1695 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1695
Board: [ 3h Jh Th Ac ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1460, didn't bet (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2135, lost 350 (folded)
CharlesLS balance 2075, lost 350 (folded)
ur24sell balance 635, lost 100 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1695, bet 895, collected 1695, net +800
--- was that right to call pre-flop? did i play it ok after the flop?
Preflop its a weaker call your under the gun so there is the potential of a raise behind you then you're commiting too much to see a flop or giving away money.
post flop what do you think these guys have? do you think they have a made bigger flush, or are draw to the nut flush with the suited ace. This is a tough call. If you put them on no over card hearts i like the call cause you get $250 out of the man behind you. What if he raised all in there are you calling him? If the answer is yes, it might have been better to go all in yourself. you're also close to pot commited by just making the call.
***** Hand History for Game 291383687 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:21:16 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1460)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2135)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (2075)
Seat 9: ur24sell (635)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1695)
ur24sell posts small blind (50)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Td, Jc ]
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
dkuf811 raises (325) to 325
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell folds.
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 475
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1460, didn't bet (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2285, bet 325, collected 475, net +150
CharlesLS balance 2075, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 585, lost 50 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1595, lost 100 (folded)
I think its a good lay down against someone that can knock you out.
***** Hand History for Game 291385111 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:22:12 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1360)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2285)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (2225)
Seat 9: ur24sell (585)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1545)
DMBJUNKIE3 posts small blind (50)
dkuf811 posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Js, As ]
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell folds.
RedSoxFan raises (200) to 200
DMBJUNKIE3 calls (150)
dkuf811 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9h, Kc, Qh ]
DMBJUNKIE3 bets (100)
RedSoxFan calls (100)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3s ]
DMBJUNKIE3 bets (1060)
DMBJUNKIE3 calls all-In.
RedSoxFan folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1760 with DMBJUNKIE3
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1760
Board: [ 9h Kc Qh 3s ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1760, bet 1360, collected 1760, net +400
dkuf811 balance 2185, lost 100 (folded)
CharlesLS balance 2225, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 585, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1245, lost 300 (folded)
could be a bluf could be a hand. if you read the bet on the flop as a bluff a raise would be in order. otherwise a fold was in order. calling wasn't the best option.
***** Hand History for Game 291386605 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:23:13 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1760)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2485)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (2125)
Seat 9: ur24sell (385)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (1245)
CharlesLS posts small blind (50)
ur24sell posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Th, Jh ]
RedSoxFan raises (200) to 200
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
dkuf811 calls (200)
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell raises (200) to 300
RedSoxFan calls (100)
dkuf811 calls (100)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 4s, Ad ]
ur24sell bets (85)
ur24sell calls all-In.
RedSoxFan folds.
dkuf811 calls (85)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 8c ]
Creating Main Pot with $1120 with ur24sell
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1120 |
Board: [ Qc 4s Ad 2d 8c ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1760, didn't bet (folded)
dkuf811 balance 3220, bet 385, collected 1120, net +735 [ 4c 4h ] [ three of a kind, fours -- Ad,Qc,4c,4h,4s ]
CharlesLS balance 2075, lost 50 (folded)
ur24sell balance 0, lost 385 [ Tc Td ] [ a pair of tens -- Ad,Qc,Tc,Td,8c ]
RedSoxFan balance 945, lost 300 (folded)
ur24sell finished in fifth place.
--- two overcards on the flop killed my chances. should i even play TJs with only four people left?
I like your play on this hand. I like to play the JTs. When this hand hits there is a good chance it pays off for you. this just happened to be a bad time that 2 of the 4 opponents had pocket pairs.
***** Hand History for Game 291388636 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:24:36 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1860)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (3220)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (2075)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (845)
dkuf811 posts small blind (50)
CharlesLS posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Kc, Td ]
RedSoxFan calls (100)
DMBJUNKIE3 calls (100)
dkuf811 calls (50)
CharlesLS checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, 7s, 4h ]
dkuf811 bets (100)
CharlesLS folds.
RedSoxFan calls (100)
DMBJUNKIE3 calls (100)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qs ]
dkuf811 checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
DMBJUNKIE3 checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 3c ]
dkuf811 checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
DMBJUNKIE3 bets (100)
dkuf811 calls (100)
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
Board: [ 9c 7s 4h Qs 3c ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2460, bet 300, collected 900, net +600 [ Th Tc ] [ a pair of tens -- Qs,Th,Tc,9c,7s ]
dkuf811 balance 2920, lost 300 [ 8d 7h ] [ a pair of sevens -- Qs,9c,8d,7h,7s ]
CharlesLS balance 1975, lost 100 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 645, lost 200 (folded)
--- probably a mistake to call post-flop. i was feeling lucky for some reason.
KT can get you into trouble. with 4 people left, if you play it, it should be for a pre flop raise and give yourself a chance at taking the blinds. You are short stacked and have limitted time depends just how patient you are. you said it on the flop.
***** Hand History for Game 291390080 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:25:34 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (2460)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2920)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (1975)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (645)
CharlesLS posts small blind (50)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Qc, Ad ]
DMBJUNKIE3 calls (100)
dkuf811 folds.
CharlesLS calls (50)
RedSoxFan raises (545) to 645
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
CharlesLS folds.
Creating Main Pot with $845 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 845
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2360, lost 100 (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2920, didn't bet (folded)
CharlesLS balance 1875, lost 100 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 845, bet 645, collected 845, net +200
:tup:
***** Hand History for Game 291390703 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:26:00 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (2360)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2920)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (1875)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (845)
RedSoxFan posts small blind (100)
DMBJUNKIE3 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Qh, 7h ]
dkuf811 folds.
CharlesLS folds.
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2460, bet 200, collected 300, net +100
dkuf811 balance 2920, didn't bet (folded)
CharlesLS balance 1875, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 745, lost 100 (folded)
:tup:
***** Hand History for Game 291391268 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:26:23 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (2460)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2920)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (1875)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (745)
DMBJUNKIE3 posts small blind (100)
dkuf811 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 9d, Ah ]
CharlesLS folds.
RedSoxFan raises (745) to 745
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
dkuf811 calls (545)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, Jh, 8s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2d ]
Creating Main Pot with $1590 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1590 |
Board: [ 8d Jh 8s 6h 2d ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 2360, lost 100 (folded)
dkuf811 balance 3765, bet 745, collected 1590, net +845 [ Td Th ] [ two pairs, tens and eights -- Jh,Td,Th,8d,8s ]
CharlesLS balance 1875, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 0, lost 745 [ 9d Ah ] [ a pair of eights -- Ah,Jh,9d,8d,8s ]
RedSoxFan finished in fourth place.
if you play the A9 i like the bet you'r almost pot commited by playing it again comes down to how pmuch patience you have. FSAme would have done the same and hit his hand. Having more chips near the end is so important so that you can be patient.[/quote]
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12-20-2003, 12:24 PM
***** Hand History for Game 292280749 *****
0.50/1 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Sat Dec 20 11:52:14 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3618 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: felix_thecat ( $22.25)
Seat 2: clouddancer ( $11.50)
Seat 3: HSteele ( $6.50)
Seat 4: VAGELEN ( $30.25)
Seat 5: Anu_K ( $17.50)
Seat 6: ajboehm ( $26.50)
Seat 7: littlerivers ( $30.75)
Seat 8: krissyzee ( $39)
Seat 9: oneBBhr ( $20)
Seat 10: Cammas ( $26.75)
krissyzee posts small blind (0.25)
oneBBhr posts big blind (0.50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to littlerivers [ Ks, Ad ]
Cammas folds.
felix_thecat folds.
clouddancer calls (0.50)
HSteele calls (0.50)
VAGELEN calls (0.50)
Anu_K calls (0.50)
ajboehm folds.
littlerivers raises (1) to 1
krissyzee folds.
oneBBhr calls (0.50)
clouddancer raises (1) to 1.50
HSteele folds.
VAGELEN calls (1)
Anu_K calls (1)
littlerivers raises (1) to 2
oneBBhr calls (1)
clouddancer calls (0.50)
VAGELEN calls (0.50)
Anu_K calls (0.50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6c, 6h, Jc ]
oneBBhr checks.
clouddancer checks.
VAGELEN checks.
Anu_K checks.
littlerivers bets (0.50)
oneBBhr folds.
clouddancer calls (0.50)
VAGELEN calls (0.50)
Anu_K folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qs ]
clouddancer checks.
VAGELEN checks.
littlerivers bets (1)
clouddancer calls (1)
VAGELEN folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ 5h ]
clouddancer folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $13.50 | Rake: $0.75
Board: [ 6c 6h Jc Qs 5h ]
felix_thecat balance $22.25, didn't bet (folded)
clouddancer balance $8, lost $3.50 (folded)
HSteele balance $6, lost $0.50 (folded)
VAGELEN balance $27.75, lost $2.50 (folded)
Anu_K balance $15.50, lost $2 (folded)
ajboehm balance $26.50, didn't bet (folded)
littlerivers balance $40.75, bet $3.50, collected $13.50, net +$10
krissyzee balance $38.75, lost $0.25 (folded)
oneBBhr balance $18, lost $2 (folded)
Cammas balance $26.75, didn't bet (folded)
clouddancer has been raising with junk on most hands. i find the result of this hand funny as he folded on the river before i could buy the pot.
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12-20-2003, 12:45 PM
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***** Hand History for Game 292297744 *****
0.50/1 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Sat Dec 20 12:09:54 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3706 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: littlerivers ( $17.25)
Seat 2: DepartedCash ( $11.25)
Seat 3: marco_baba ( $10)
Seat 4: leluckyloser ( $29)
Seat 5: DukeDMo ( $34.25)
Seat 6: kidfierce ( $21.50)
Seat 7: chpnachair ( $30)
Seat 8: Cadarn ( $19)
Seat 9: SBiem ( $12.50)
Seat 10: Reinerv ( $69.25)
littlerivers posts small blind (0.25)
marco_baba posts big blind (0.50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to littlerivers [ Kh, Kd ]
leluckyloser folds.
DukeDMo folds.
chpnachair folds.
Cadarn folds.
SBiem calls (0.50)
Reinerv folds.
littlerivers raises (0.75) to 1
marco_baba calls (0.50)
SBiem raises (1) to 1.50
littlerivers raises (1) to 2
marco_baba calls (1)
SBiem calls (0.50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6d, 6h, 7s ]
littlerivers bets (0.50)
marco_baba calls (0.50)
SBiem calls (0.50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4d ]
littlerivers bets (1)
marco_baba calls (1)
SBiem calls (1)
** Dealing River ** : [ 3h ]
littlerivers bets (1)
marco_baba raises (2) to 2
SBiem calls (2)
littlerivers calls (1)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $15.75 | Rake: $0.75
Board: [ 6d 6h 7s 4d 3h ]
littlerivers balance $11.75, lost $5.50 [ Kh Kd ] [ two pairs, kings and sixes -- Kh,Kd,7s,6d,6h ]
DepartedCash balance $11.25, sits out
marco_baba balance $20.25, bet $5.50, collected $15.75, net +$10.25 [ 5h Ks ] [ a straight, three to seven -- 7s,6d,5h,4d,3h ]
leluckyloser balance $29, didn't bet (folded)
DukeDMo balance $34.25, didn't bet (folded)
kidfierce balance $21.50, sits out
chpnachair balance $30, didn't bet (folded)
Cadarn balance $19, didn't bet (folded)
SBiem balance $7, lost $5.50 [ Jd Ah ] [ a pair of sixes -- Ah,Jd,7s,6d,6h ]
Reinerv balance $69.25, didn't bet (folded)
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Hello littlerivers,
You have recently requested your transcript of the game number 292303922.
***** Hand History for Game 292303922 *****
0.50/1 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Sat Dec 20 12:16:11 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3706 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: littlerivers ( $8.25)
Seat 2: DepartedCash ( $11.25)
Seat 3: marco_baba ( $23.75)
Seat 4: leluckyloser ( $30.25)
Seat 5: DukeDMo ( $43.50)
Seat 6: kidfierce ( $19.75)
Seat 7: chpnachair ( $29)
Seat 8: Cadarn ( $16.50)
Seat 9: SBiem ( $6.50)
Seat 10: Reinerv ( $62.75)
chpnachair posts small blind (0.25)
Cadarn posts big blind (0.50)
DepartedCash posts big blind + dead (0.75)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to littlerivers [ Qc, Qh ]
SBiem folds.
Reinerv calls (0.50)
littlerivers raises (1) to 1
DepartedCash calls (0.50)
marco_baba calls (1)
leluckyloser folds.
DukeDMo folds.
kidfierce calls (1)
chpnachair folds.
Cadarn folds.
Reinerv calls (0.50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 4c, 3d ]
Reinerv checks.
littlerivers bets (0.50)
DepartedCash calls (0.50)
marco_baba calls (0.50)
kidfierce calls (0.50)
Reinerv calls (0.50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
Reinerv checks.
littlerivers bets (1)
DepartedCash calls (1)
marco_baba calls (1)
kidfierce calls (1)
Reinerv calls (1)
** Dealing River ** : [ 7c ]
Reinerv checks.
littlerivers bets (1)
DepartedCash folds.
marco_baba calls (1)
kidfierce calls (1)
Reinerv folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $15.75 | Rake: $0.75
Board: [ Th 4c 3d 2d 7c ]
littlerivers balance $4.75, lost $3.50 [ Qc Qh ] [ a pair of queens -- Qc,Qh,Th,7c,4c ]
DepartedCash balance $8.50, lost $2.75 (folded)
marco_baba balance $36, bet $3.50, collected $15.75, net +$12.25 [ Td 7d ] [ two pairs, tens and sevens -- Td,Th,7d,7c,4c ]
leluckyloser balance $30.25, didn't bet (folded)
DukeDMo balance $43.50, didn't bet (folded)
kidfierce balance $16.25, lost $3.50 [ 8h Tc ] [ a pair of tens -- Tc,Th,8h,7c,4c ]
chpnachair balance $28.75, lost $0.25 (folded)
Cadarn balance $16, lost $0.50 (folded)
SBiem balance $6.50, didn't bet (folded)
Reinerv balance $60.25, lost $2.50 (folded)
For detailed handhistory, click here
MountainHawk
12-20-2003, 04:57 PM
My first real money tournament was this morning (just 1+0)... just looking for comments on a couple of hands.
*********** # 26 **************
PokerStars Game #215657631: Tournament #685881, Hold'em Limit - Level III (50/100) - 2003/12/20 - 10:32:10 (ET) Table '685881 21' Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: Deuce_holdem (965 in chips)
Seat 2: cuzvin33 (910 in chips)
Seat 3: dave_810 (1075 in chips)
Seat 4: redlobster (1245 in chips)
Seat 5: Mountainhawk (2115 in chips)
Seat 6: funluvin36 (1045 in chips)
Seat 7: FOZY (1615 in chips)
Seat 8: luckyjl (995 in chips)
Seat 9: JaciO (2415 in chips)
cuzvin33: posts small blind 25
dave_810: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mountainhawk [Kh Ac]
redlobster: folds
Mountainhawk: calls 50
funluvin36: folds
FOZY: folds
luckyjl: calls 50
JaciO: calls 50
Deuce_holdem: folds
cuzvin33: calls 25
dave_810: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd Ah 7s]
cuzvin33: checks
dave_810: checks
Mountainhawk: checks
luckyjl: checks
JaciO: checks
*** TURN *** [Kd Ah 7s] [Js]
cuzvin33: bets 100
dave_810: folds
Mountainhawk: raises 100 to 200
luckyjl: folds
JaciO: folds
cuzvin33: raises 100 to 300
Mountainhawk: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [Kd Ah 7s Js] [Ts]
cuzvin33: bets 100
Mountainhawk: calls 100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cuzvin33: shows [Qs Td] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Mountainhawk: mucks hand
cuzvin33 collected 1050 from pot
*********** # 31 **************
PokerStars Game #215660709: Tournament #685881, Hold'em Limit - Level III (50/100) - 2003/12/20 - 10:37:47 (ET) Table '685881 21' Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: Deuce_holdem (1215 in chips)
Seat 2: cuzvin33 (1160 in chips)
Seat 3: dave_810 (850 in chips)
Seat 4: redlobster (1170 in chips)
Seat 5: Mountainhawk (1465 in chips)
Seat 6: funluvin36 (670 in chips)
Seat 7: FOZY (2040 in chips)
Seat 8: luckyjl (1008 in chips)
Seat 9: JaciO (2802 in chips)
FOZY: posts small blind 25
luckyjl: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mountainhawk [Qc Jh]
JaciO: folds
cuzvin33 said, "nh"
Deuce_holdem: folds
cuzvin33: folds
dave_810: calls 50
redlobster: folds
Mountainhawk: calls 50
funluvin36: calls 50
FOZY: calls 25
luckyjl: checks
*** FLOP *** [5c 6d 3d]
FOZY: bets 50
luckyjl: folds
dave_810: calls 50
Mountainhawk: calls 50
funluvin36: calls 50
*** TURN *** [5c 6d 3d] [Ah]
FOZY: bets 100
dave_810: folds
Mountainhawk: folds
funluvin36: folds
FOZY collected 450 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Board [5c 6d 3d Ah]
Seat 1: Deuce_holdem folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cuzvin33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: dave_810 folded on the Turn
Seat 4: redlobster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Mountainhawk folded on the Turn
Seat 6: funluvin36 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: FOZY (small blind) collected (450)
Seat 8: luckyjl (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: JaciO folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Expunge
12-20-2003, 06:53 PM
My first real money tournament was this morning (just 1+0)... just looking for comments on a couple of hands.
*********** # 26 **************
PokerStars Game #215657631: Tournament #685881, Hold'em Limit - Level III (50/100) - 2003/12/20 - 10:32:10 (ET) Table '685881 21' Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: Deuce_holdem (965 in chips)
Seat 2: cuzvin33 (910 in chips)
Seat 3: dave_810 (1075 in chips)
Seat 4: redlobster (1245 in chips)
Seat 5: Mountainhawk (2115 in chips)
Seat 6: funluvin36 (1045 in chips)
Seat 7: FOZY (1615 in chips)
Seat 8: luckyjl (995 in chips)
Seat 9: JaciO (2415 in chips)
cuzvin33: posts small blind 25
dave_810: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mountainhawk [Kh Ac]
redlobster: folds
Mountainhawk: calls 50
funluvin36: folds
FOZY: folds
luckyjl: calls 50
JaciO: calls 50
Deuce_holdem: folds
cuzvin33: calls 25
dave_810: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd Ah 7s]
cuzvin33: checks
dave_810: checks
Mountainhawk: checks
luckyjl: checks
JaciO: checks
*** TURN *** [Kd Ah 7s] [Js]
cuzvin33: bets 100
dave_810: folds
Mountainhawk: raises 100 to 200
luckyjl: folds
JaciO: folds
cuzvin33: raises 100 to 300
Mountainhawk: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [Kd Ah 7s Js] [Ts]
cuzvin33: bets 100
Mountainhawk: calls 100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cuzvin33: shows [Qs Td] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Mountainhawk: mucks hand
cuzvin33 collected 1050 from pot
Why didn't you raise this preflop? Straight possibilities when flopping 2 overs is the main reason not to slowplay. don't give them a free card to make it and in nl (i realize this is limit) don't give them pot odds to make it. You allowed to many player a cheap peak at the flop, followed by giving a free card that could bite you which it did.
*********** # 31 **************
PokerStars Game #215660709: Tournament #685881, Hold'em Limit - Level III (50/100) - 2003/12/20 - 10:37:47 (ET) Table '685881 21' Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: Deuce_holdem (1215 in chips)
Seat 2: cuzvin33 (1160 in chips)
Seat 3: dave_810 (850 in chips)
Seat 4: redlobster (1170 in chips)
Seat 5: Mountainhawk (1465 in chips)
Seat 6: funluvin36 (670 in chips)
Seat 7: FOZY (2040 in chips)
Seat 8: luckyjl (1008 in chips)
Seat 9: JaciO (2802 in chips)
FOZY: posts small blind 25
luckyjl: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mountainhawk [Qc Jh]
JaciO: folds
cuzvin33 said, "nh"
Deuce_holdem: folds
cuzvin33: folds
dave_810: calls 50
redlobster: folds
Mountainhawk: calls 50
funluvin36: calls 50
FOZY: calls 25
luckyjl: checks
*** FLOP *** [5c 6d 3d]
FOZY: bets 50
luckyjl: folds
dave_810: calls 50
Mountainhawk: calls 50
funluvin36: calls 50
*** TURN *** [5c 6d 3d] [Ah]
FOZY: bets 100
dave_810: folds
Mountainhawk: folds
funluvin36: folds
FOZY collected 450 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Board [5c 6d 3d Ah]
Seat 1: Deuce_holdem folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cuzvin33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: dave_810 folded on the Turn
Seat 4: redlobster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Mountainhawk folded on the Turn
Seat 6: funluvin36 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: FOZY (small blind) collected (450)
Seat 8: luckyjl (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: JaciO folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I don't mind the preflop play but not sure why you chased on the flop. with a straight possible, a flush draw possible and not hitting the flop, and not even having backdoor straight or flush potential, don't give away that $50.
Expunge
12-20-2003, 07:47 PM
I'm starting to hate nl multis at party. from the few nl multies ive been in there you might as well enter a lottery for the first 3/4 of the tournament. if you bet all in they make bad calls, or they go all in too early forcing you to fold. Its not really poker, its rolling the dice.
Expunge
12-20-2003, 08:47 PM
Hello littlerivers,
You have recently requested your transcript of the game number 292918508.
***** Hand History for Game 292918508 *****
20/40 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (Limit) (Tournament 1651441) - Sat Dec 20 20:18:12 EST 2003
Table Multi-Table(6441) Table 54 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: lottowin (780)
Seat 2: hugecash (915)
Seat 3: wjshaw5130 (960)
Seat 4: DeluxTux (940)
Seat 5: jimmac32 (1130)
Seat 6: cltclove (825)
Seat 7: StillTheSame (870)
Seat 8: bigbeas (1520)
Seat 9: Golfgod77 (1135)
Seat 10: littlerivers (925)
jimmac32 posts small blind (10)
cltclove posts big blind (20)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to littlerivers [ 9d, Td ]
StillTheSame folds.
bigbeas folds.
Golfgod77 folds.
littlerivers raises (40) to 40
lottowin calls (40)
hugecash raises (60) to 60
wjshaw5130 folds.
DeluxTux folds.
jimmac32 calls (50)
cltclove folds.
littlerivers calls (20)
lottowin calls (20)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kd, Qd, 8d ]
jimmac32 checks.
littlerivers bets (20)
lottowin calls (20)
hugecash raises (40) to 40
jimmac32 calls (40)
littlerivers raises (40) to 60
lottowin folds.
hugecash raises (40) to 80
jimmac32 calls (40)
littlerivers calls (20)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kc ]
jimmac32 checks.
littlerivers bets (40)
hugecash raises (80) to 80
jimmac32 calls (80)
littlerivers calls (40)
** Dealing River ** : [ Kh ]
jimmac32 checks.
littlerivers checks.
hugecash checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 760
Board: [ Kd Qd 8d Kc Kh ]
lottowin balance 700, lost 80 (folded)
hugecash balance 695, lost 220 [ 6d 7d ] [ a flush, king high -- Kd,Qd,8d,7d,6d ]
wjshaw5130 balance 960, didn't bet (folded)
DeluxTux balance 940, didn't bet (folded)
jimmac32 balance 1670, bet 220, collected 760, net +540 [ Ac Qc ] [ a full house, Kings full of queens -- Kd,Kc,Kh,Qc,Qd ]
cltclove balance 805, lost 20 (folded)
StillTheSame balance 870, didn't bet (folded)
bigbeas balance 1520, didn't bet (folded)
Golfgod77 balance 1135, didn't bet (folded)
littlerivers balance 705, lost 220 [ 9d Td ] [ a flush, king high -- Kd,Qd,Td,9d,8d ]
For detailed handhistory, click here
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=154904
pokenum -h td 9d - 6d 7d - ac qc -- kd qd 8d
Holdem Hi: 903 enumerated boards containing Kd Qd 8d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Td 9d 874 96.79 29 3.21 0 0.00 0.968
7d 6d 1 0.11 902 99.89 0 0.00 0.001
Ac Qc 28 3.10 875 96.90 0 0.00 0.031
Expunge
12-20-2003, 09:08 PM
Hello littlerivers,
You have recently requested your transcript of the game number 292944054.
***** Hand History for Game 292944054 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (Limit) (Tournament 1651441) - Sat Dec 20 20:36:37 EST 2003
Table Multi-Table(6441) Table 54 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: lottowin (570)
Seat 2: hugecash (405)
Seat 4: DeluxTux (1755)
Seat 5: jimmac32 (1560)
Seat 6: cltclove (815)
Seat 7: StillTheSame (1070)
Seat 8: bigbeas (1800)
Seat 9: Golfgod77 (1030)
Seat 10: littlerivers (995)
DeluxTux posts small blind (15)
jimmac32 posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to littlerivers [ 8c, 8s ]
cltclove folds.
StillTheSame folds.
bigbeas raises (60) to 60
Golfgod77 calls (60)
littlerivers calls (60)
lottowin folds.
hugecash calls (60)
DeluxTux calls (45)
jimmac32 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8h, 7d, 8d ]
DeluxTux checks.
bigbeas bets (30)
Golfgod77 folds.
littlerivers calls (30)
hugecash raises (60) to 60
DeluxTux folds.
bigbeas calls (30)
littlerivers calls (30)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jc ]
bigbeas checks.
littlerivers checks.
hugecash bets (60)
bigbeas calls (60)
littlerivers raises (120) to 120
hugecash folds.
bigbeas folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 750
Board: [ 8h 7d 8d Jc ]
lottowin balance 570, didn't bet (folded)
hugecash balance 225, lost 180 (folded)
tigerz balance 460, sits out
DeluxTux balance 1695, lost 60 (folded)
jimmac32 balance 1530, lost 30 (folded)
cltclove balance 815, didn't bet (folded)
StillTheSame balance 1070, didn't bet (folded)
bigbeas balance 1620, lost 180 (folded)
Golfgod77 balance 970, lost 60 (folded)
littlerivers balance 1505, bet 240, collected 750, net +510
For detailed handhistory, click here
I'm impressed that the opponents were able to fold pre river.
RedSoxFan
12-20-2003, 11:53 PM
Expunge, thanks for your comments. I know I'm improving but my results didn't show it tonight: 7th, 5th, and 4th. I've now either placed 4th or 5th in 8 of my last 9 games. Does that mean anything??
I will post a few of my hands momentarily.
Expunge
12-21-2003, 12:35 AM
i think it means clean up the mistakes and you'll make some money.
btw i'm one of 23 remaining in a $20+2 multi right now (limit)
RedSoxFan
12-21-2003, 12:49 AM
Some selected hands from tonight. All comments are very appreciated.
First, for sheer amusement, the very first hand of the third game I played:
***** Hand History for Game 293100952 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:27:48 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Adam88 (800)
Seat 2: tamaiowafarm (800)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (800)
Seat 4: jbboy (800)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (800)
Seat 6: tjdmaniac (800)
Seat 7: PONY6901 (800)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (800)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (800)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (800)
RedSoxFan posts small blind (10)
jbboy posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ As, Ad ]
tweezer762 folds.
tjdmaniac folds.
PONY6901 folds.
smhirsch32 folds.
gyjgyj folds.
oshbosh69 folds.
Adam88 folds.
tamaiowafarm calls (15)
RedSoxFan raises (20) to 30
jbboy folds.
tamaiowafarm raises (135) to 150
RedSoxFan raises (240) to 270
tamaiowafarm raises (650) to 800
tamaiowafarm calls all-In.
RedSoxFan calls (530)
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jh, 4s, Kd ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7h ]
Creating Main Pot with $1615 with tamaiowafarm,RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1615
Board: [ Jh 4s Kd 9h 7h ]
Adam88 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
tamaiowafarm balance 0, lost 800 [ Ks Qd ] [ a pair of kings -- Ks,Kd,Qd,Jh,9h ]
RedSoxFan balance 1615, bet 800, collected 1615, net +815 [ As Ad ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ad,Kd,Jh,9h ]
jbboy balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
tweezer762 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
tjdmaniac balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
PONY6901 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
smhirsch32 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
gyjgyj balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
oshbosh69 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
tamaiowafarm finished in tenth place.
Now for some other hands:
***** Hand History for Game 293108570 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:32:59 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Adam88 (800)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (1615)
Seat 4: jbboy (1065)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (755)
Seat 6: tjdmaniac (815)
Seat 7: PONY6901 (745)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (605)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (800)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (800)
smhirsch32 posts small blind (10)
gyjgyj posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Js, Qh ]
oshbosh69 folds.
Adam88 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (15)
jbboy folds.
tweezer762 calls (15)
tjdmaniac folds.
PONY6901 calls (15)
smhirsch32 calls (5)
gyjgyj checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Tc, 9h, Th ]
smhirsch32 checks.
gyjgyj bets (15)
RedSoxFan raises (30) to 30
tweezer762 folds.
oshbosh69: if I had to choose another screen name it deffinetly would be dikface
PONY6901 folds.
smhirsch32 folds.
gyjgyj calls (15)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ah ]
gyjgyj checks.
RedSoxFan bets (65)
gyjgyj folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 200
Board: [ Tc 9h Th Ah ]
Adam88 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1705, bet 110, collected 200, net +90
jbboy balance 1065, didn't bet (folded)
tweezer762 balance 740, lost 15 (folded)
tjdmaniac balance 815, didn't bet (folded)
PONY6901 balance 730, lost 15 (folded)
smhirsch32 balance 590, lost 15 (folded)
gyjgyj balance 755, lost 45 (folded)
oshbosh69 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
--- I think he put me on a flush. I still had outs for the river even if he called my $65 bet, for my straight and for a flush.. would that warrant a bigger raise?
***** Hand History for Game 293109920 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:33:55 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Adam88 (800)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (1705)
Seat 4: jbboy (1065)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (740)
Seat 6: tjdmaniac (815)
Seat 7: PONY6901 (730)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (590)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (755)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (800)
gyjgyj posts small blind (10)
oshbosh69 posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 8h, Qh ]
Adam88 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (15)
jbboy calls (15)
tweezer762 calls (15)
tjdmaniac folds.
PONY6901 raises (30) to 30
smhirsch32 calls (30)
gyjgyj calls (20)
oshbosh69 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (15)
jbboy calls (15)
tweezer762 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ad, 6h, Qd ]
gyjgyj checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
jbboy folds.
PONY6901 checks.
smhirsch32 bets (50)
gyjgyj calls (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
PONY6901 calls (50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ]
gyjgyj checks.
RedSoxFan bets (70)
PONY6901 calls (70)
smhirsch32 calls (70)
gyjgyj calls (70)
** Dealing River ** : [ 2d ]
gyjgyj checks.
RedSoxFan bets (325)
PONY6901 raises (580) to 580
PONY6901 calls all-In.
smhirsch32 folds.
gyjgyj calls (580)
Adam88: big hand
RedSoxFan folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2145 with PONY6901
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2145 |
Board: [ Ad 6h Qd Qc 2d ]
Adam88 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1230, lost 475 (folded)
jbboy balance 1035, lost 30 (folded)
tweezer762 balance 725, lost 15 (folded)
tjdmaniac balance 815, didn't bet (folded)
PONY6901 balance 0, lost 730 [ Jc Js ] [ two pairs, queens and jacks -- Ad,Qd,Qc,Jc,Js ]
smhirsch32 balance 440, lost 150 (folded)
gyjgyj balance 2170, bet 730, collected 2145, net +1415 [ Kd Td ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ad,Kd,Qd,Td,2d ]
oshbosh69 balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
PONY6901 finished in ninth place.
--- I think I blundered here. I should have bet bigger on the flop, not let him draw to a flush.
***** Hand History for Game 293135304 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:51:24 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Adam88 (1110)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (985)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (1775)
Seat 6: tjdmaniac (515)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (440)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (2180)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (995)
RedSoxFan posts small blind (25)
tweezer762 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Js, 9c ]
tjdmaniac folds.
smhirsch32 calls (50)
gyjgyj folds.
oshbosh69 folds.
Adam88 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (25)
tweezer762 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ks, 9h, 6c ]
RedSoxFan checks.
tweezer762 checks.
smhirsch32 bets (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
tweezer762 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
RedSoxFan checks.
smhirsch32 bets (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
** Dealing River ** : [ Jc ]
RedSoxFan checks.
smhirsch32 bets (290)
smhirsch32 calls all-In.
RedSoxFan calls (290)
Creating Main Pot with $930 with smhirsch32
** Summary **
Main Pot: 930 |
Board: [ Ks 9h 6c 6h Jc ]
Adam88 balance 1110, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 545, lost 440 [ Js 9c ] [ two pairs, jacks and nines -- Ks,Js,Jc,9c,9h ]
tweezer762 balance 1725, lost 50 (folded)
tjdmaniac balance 515, didn't bet (folded)
smhirsch32 balance 930, bet 440, collected 930, net +490 [ 2d Kd ] [ two pairs, kings and sixes -- Kd,Ks,Jc,6c,6h ]
gyjgyj balance 2180, didn't bet (folded)
oshbosh69 balance 995, didn't bet (folded)
--- I played this one poorly too. If I put him on a pair of Ks, then he has two pair on the turn, which beats any two pair i could have.. So its a definite fold on the river. I wasted 290 there.
***** Hand History for Game 293138412 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:53:35 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Adam88 (1110)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (545)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (2805)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (930)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (1615)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (995)
smhirsch32 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Kc, Kd ]
gyjgyj folds.
oshbosh69 calls (50)
Adam88 folds.
RedSoxFan raises (100) to 100
tweezer762 folds.
smhirsch32 folds.
oshbosh69 calls (50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ah, 4h, 2s ]
oshbosh69 bets (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ks ]
oshbosh69 bets (125)
RedSoxFan raises (395) to 395
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
oshbosh69 calls (270)
** Dealing River ** : [ Qh ]
Creating Main Pot with $1140 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1140 |
Board: [ Ah 4h 2s Ks Qh ]
Adam88 balance 1110, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1140, bet 545, collected 1140, net +595 [ Kc Kd ] [ three of a kind, kings -- Ah,Kc,Kd,Ks,Qh ]
tweezer762 balance 2805, didn't bet (folded)
smhirsch32 balance 880, lost 50 (folded)
gyjgyj balance 1615, didn't bet (folded)
oshbosh69 balance 450, lost 545 [ Ac Td ] [ a pair of aces -- Ac,Ah,Ks,Qh,Td ]
--- this is probably a fold on the flop right? you could imagine my frustration when there was an A on the flop overcarding my Ks. If he had bet any more than 50 i would've folded but I called the 50, got lucky.
***** Hand History for Game 293141308 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:55:37 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Adam88 (1110)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (1140)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (2755)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (830)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (1565)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (600)
oshbosh69 posts small blind (25)
Adam88 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Jc, Ad ]
RedSoxFan calls (50)
tweezer762 raises (200) to 200
smhirsch32 folds.
gyjgyj folds.
oshbosh69 folds.
Adam88 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (150)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2c, 2h, 8d ]
RedSoxFan checks.
tweezer762 bets (100)
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 575
Board: [ 2c 2h 8d ]
Adam88 balance 1060, lost 50 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 940, lost 200 (folded)
tweezer762 balance 3030, bet 300, collected 575, net +275
smhirsch32 balance 830, didn't bet (folded)
gyjgyj balance 1565, didn't bet (folded)
oshbosh69 balance 575, lost 25 (folded)
--- What should I do on this one? Even after thinking about it right now, I don't have any idea if I made the right plays.
I ended up getting 4th. Very disappointing finish since after I doubled my chips on the very first hand I had high hopes I was going to break out of my 4th/5th streak.
***** Hand History for Game 293048133 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652432) - Sat Dec 20 21:51:26 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 903 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: DON1028 (685)
Seat 2: McTib (1635)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (660)
Seat 4: DizzleDown (985)
Seat 5: mock2 (905)
Seat 7: maxreactor (1010)
Seat 8: luellman (570)
Seat 9: SuePowers (780)
Seat 10: APUMP1 (770)
mock2 posts small blind (10)
maxreactor posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 5c, As ]
luellman calls (15)
SuePowers folds.
APUMP1 folds.
DON1028 folds.
McTib calls (15)
RedSoxFan calls (15)
DizzleDown folds.
mock2 calls (5)
maxreactor checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7h, 8d, Ad ]
mock2 bets (15)
maxreactor folds.
luellman folds.
McTib folds.
RedSoxFan raises (30) to 30
mock2 calls (15)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ks ]
mock2 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (45)
mock2 calls (45)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ac ]
mock2 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (225)
mock2 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 450
Board: [ 7h 8d Ad Ks Ac ]
DON1028 balance 685, didn't bet (folded)
McTib balance 1620, lost 15 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 795, bet 315, collected 450, net +135
DizzleDown balance 985, didn't bet (folded)
mock2 balance 815, lost 90 (folded)
maxreactor balance 995, lost 15 (folded)
luellman balance 555, lost 15 (folded)
SuePowers balance 780, didn't bet (folded)
APUMP1 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
---This is from an earlier game. Nice to flop a pair of As, but someone could have that and a better kicker. I figured once I got another A on the river odds were he didnt have the 4th A.
***** Hand History for Game 293054001 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652432) - Sat Dec 20 21:55:35 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 903 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: DON1028 (595)
Seat 2: McTib (1530)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (765)
Seat 4: DizzleDown (925)
Seat 5: mock2 (460)
Seat 7: maxreactor (980)
Seat 8: luellman (2070)
Seat 9: SuePowers (675)
McTib posts small blind (15)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Ad, Tc ]
DizzleDown: hehehehe
DizzleDown calls (30)
mock2 calls (30)
maxreactor folds.
luellman calls (30)
SuePowers folds.
DON1028 folds.
McTib calls (15)
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7c, 6d, Ac ]
McTib checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
DizzleDown checks.
mock2 checks.
luellman checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
McTib bets (100)
RedSoxFan calls (100)
DizzleDown folds.
mock2 folds.
luellman folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
McTib bets (200)
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 550
Board: [ 7c 6d Ac 2d Qs ]
DON1028 balance 595, didn't bet (folded)
McTib balance 1750, bet 330, collected 550, net +220
RedSoxFan balance 635, lost 130 (folded)
DizzleDown balance 895, lost 30 (folded)
mock2 balance 430, lost 30 (folded)
maxreactor balance 980, didn't bet (folded)
luellman balance 2040, lost 30 (folded)
SuePowers balance 675, didn't bet (folded)
--- Was I too cautious here?
Expunge
12-21-2003, 12:55 AM
i think it means clean up the mistakes and you'll make some money.
btw i'm one of 23 remaining in a $20+2 multi right now (limit)
crap got knocked out 18th. was dealt KK ran into AA
RedSoxFan
12-21-2003, 01:11 AM
i think it means clean up the mistakes and you'll make some money.
btw i'm one of 23 remaining in a $20+2 multi right now (limit)
Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
I hope you're right. I'm going to drop down to the $5/$1 tables for a little while. I think it's just going to take a little more practice.
I saw a book on Amazon I might get, a no-limit book by Cloutier. Anyone know if its any good? I just got Hold 'Em Poker by Carson at the bookstore. I flipped through it and it seemed good, and was half the cost of the other books. It only makes a passing mention of no-limit (but that's even more than the other books - and kind of curious that there hasn't been a new no-limit book published, since popularity in that has grown due to the 2003 world series of poker tv shows on espn.)
Expunge
12-21-2003, 01:21 AM
Some selected hands from tonight. All comments are very appreciated.
First, for sheer amusement, the very first hand of the third game I played:
***** Hand History for Game 293100952 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:27:48 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Adam88 (800)
Seat 2: tamaiowafarm (800)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (800)
Seat 4: jbboy (800)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (800)
Seat 6: tjdmaniac (800)
Seat 7: PONY6901 (800)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (800)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (800)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (800)
RedSoxFan posts small blind (10)
jbboy posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ As, Ad ]
tweezer762 folds.
tjdmaniac folds.
PONY6901 folds.
smhirsch32 folds.
gyjgyj folds.
oshbosh69 folds.
Adam88 folds.
tamaiowafarm calls (15)
RedSoxFan raises (20) to 30
jbboy folds.
tamaiowafarm raises (135) to 150
RedSoxFan raises (240) to 270
tamaiowafarm raises (650) to 800
tamaiowafarm calls all-In.
RedSoxFan calls (530)
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jh, 4s, Kd ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7h ]
Creating Main Pot with $1615 with tamaiowafarm,RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1615
Board: [ Jh 4s Kd 9h 7h ]
Adam88 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
tamaiowafarm balance 0, lost 800 [ Ks Qd ] [ a pair of kings -- Ks,Kd,Qd,Jh,9h ]
RedSoxFan balance 1615, bet 800, collected 1615, net +815 [ As Ad ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ad,Kd,Jh,9h ]
jbboy balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
tweezer762 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
tjdmaniac balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
PONY6901 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
smhirsch32 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
gyjgyj balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
oshbosh69 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
tamaiowafarm finished in tenth place.
Now for some other hands:
got to love a start like that.
***** Hand History for Game 293108570 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:32:59 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Adam88 (800)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (1615)
Seat 4: jbboy (1065)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (755)
Seat 6: tjdmaniac (815)
Seat 7: PONY6901 (745)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (605)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (800)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (800)
smhirsch32 posts small blind (10)
gyjgyj posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Js, Qh ]
oshbosh69 folds.
Adam88 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (15)
jbboy folds.
tweezer762 calls (15)
tjdmaniac folds.
PONY6901 calls (15)
smhirsch32 calls (5)
gyjgyj checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Tc, 9h, Th ]
smhirsch32 checks.
gyjgyj bets (15)
RedSoxFan raises (30) to 30
tweezer762 folds.
oshbosh69: if I had to choose another screen name it deffinetly would be dikface
PONY6901 folds.
smhirsch32 folds.
gyjgyj calls (15)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ah ]
gyjgyj checks.
RedSoxFan bets (65)
gyjgyj folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 200
Board: [ Tc 9h Th Ah ]
Adam88 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1705, bet 110, collected 200, net +90
jbboy balance 1065, didn't bet (folded)
tweezer762 balance 740, lost 15 (folded)
tjdmaniac balance 815, didn't bet (folded)
PONY6901 balance 730, lost 15 (folded)
smhirsch32 balance 590, lost 15 (folded)
gyjgyj balance 755, lost 45 (folded)
oshbosh69 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
--- I think he put me on a flush. I still had outs for the river even if he called my $65 bet, for my straight and for a flush.. would that warrant a bigger raise?
its called a semibluff. i wouldn't put him on anything, prolly chasing some runner runner that was no longer possible
***** Hand History for Game 293109920 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:33:55 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Adam88 (800)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (1705)
Seat 4: jbboy (1065)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (740)
Seat 6: tjdmaniac (815)
Seat 7: PONY6901 (730)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (590)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (755)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (800)
gyjgyj posts small blind (10)
oshbosh69 posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 8h, Qh ]
Adam88 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (15)
jbboy calls (15)
tweezer762 calls (15)
tjdmaniac folds.
PONY6901 raises (30) to 30
smhirsch32 calls (30)
gyjgyj calls (20)
oshbosh69 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (15)
jbboy calls (15)
tweezer762 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ad, 6h, Qd ]
gyjgyj checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
jbboy folds.
PONY6901 checks.
smhirsch32 bets (50)
gyjgyj calls (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
PONY6901 calls (50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ]
gyjgyj checks.
RedSoxFan bets (70)
PONY6901 calls (70)
smhirsch32 calls (70)
gyjgyj calls (70)
** Dealing River ** : [ 2d ]
gyjgyj checks.
RedSoxFan bets (325)
PONY6901 raises (580) to 580
PONY6901 calls all-In.
smhirsch32 folds.
gyjgyj calls (580)
Adam88: big hand
RedSoxFan folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2145 with PONY6901
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2145 |
Board: [ Ad 6h Qd Qc 2d ]
Adam88 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1230, lost 475 (folded)
jbboy balance 1035, lost 30 (folded)
tweezer762 balance 725, lost 15 (folded)
tjdmaniac balance 815, didn't bet (folded)
PONY6901 balance 0, lost 730 [ Jc Js ] [ two pairs, queens and jacks -- Ad,Qd,Qc,Jc,Js ]
smhirsch32 balance 440, lost 150 (folded)
gyjgyj balance 2170, bet 730, collected 2145, net +1415 [ Kd Td ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ad,Kd,Qd,Td,2d ]
oshbosh69 balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
PONY6901 finished in ninth place.
--- I think I blundered here. I should have bet bigger on the flop, not let him draw to a flush.
9 players i think you should have tossed the hand before it started
***** Hand History for Game 293135304 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:51:24 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Adam88 (1110)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (985)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (1775)
Seat 6: tjdmaniac (515)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (440)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (2180)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (995)
RedSoxFan posts small blind (25)
tweezer762 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Js, 9c ]
tjdmaniac folds.
smhirsch32 calls (50)
gyjgyj folds.
oshbosh69 folds.
Adam88 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (25)
tweezer762 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ks, 9h, 6c ]
RedSoxFan checks.
tweezer762 checks.
smhirsch32 bets (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
tweezer762 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
RedSoxFan checks.
smhirsch32 bets (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
** Dealing River ** : [ Jc ]
RedSoxFan checks.
smhirsch32 bets (290)
smhirsch32 calls all-In.
RedSoxFan calls (290)
Creating Main Pot with $930 with smhirsch32
** Summary **
Main Pot: 930 |
Board: [ Ks 9h 6c 6h Jc ]
Adam88 balance 1110, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 545, lost 440 [ Js 9c ] [ two pairs, jacks and nines -- Ks,Js,Jc,9c,9h ]
tweezer762 balance 1725, lost 50 (folded)
tjdmaniac balance 515, didn't bet (folded)
smhirsch32 balance 930, bet 440, collected 930, net +490 [ 2d Kd ] [ two pairs, kings and sixes -- Kd,Ks,Jc,6c,6h ]
gyjgyj balance 2180, didn't bet (folded)
oshbosh69 balance 995, didn't bet (folded)
--- I played this one poorly too. If I put him on a pair of Ks, then he has two pair on the turn, which beats any two pair i could have.. So its a definite fold on the river. I wasted 290 there.
yup
***** Hand History for Game 293138412 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:53:35 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Adam88 (1110)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (545)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (2805)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (930)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (1615)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (995)
smhirsch32 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Kc, Kd ]
gyjgyj folds.
oshbosh69 calls (50)
Adam88 folds.
RedSoxFan raises (100) to 100
tweezer762 folds.
smhirsch32 folds.
oshbosh69 calls (50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ah, 4h, 2s ]
oshbosh69 bets (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ks ]
oshbosh69 bets (125)
RedSoxFan raises (395) to 395
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
oshbosh69 calls (270)
** Dealing River ** : [ Qh ]
Creating Main Pot with $1140 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1140 |
Board: [ Ah 4h 2s Ks Qh ]
Adam88 balance 1110, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1140, bet 545, collected 1140, net +595 [ Kc Kd ] [ three of a kind, kings -- Ah,Kc,Kd,Ks,Qh ]
tweezer762 balance 2805, didn't bet (folded)
smhirsch32 balance 880, lost 50 (folded)
gyjgyj balance 1615, didn't bet (folded)
oshbosh69 balance 450, lost 545 [ Ac Td ] [ a pair of aces -- Ac,Ah,Ks,Qh,Td ]
--- this is probably a fold on the flop right? you could imagine my frustration when there was an A on the flop overcarding my Ks. If he had bet any more than 50 i would've folded but I called the 50, got lucky.
yup, lots of people play any ace KK gets trumped when an ace flops. got lucky though.
***** Hand History for Game 293141308 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652800) - Sat Dec 20 22:55:37 EST 2003
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Adam88 (1110)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (1140)
Seat 5: tweezer762 (2755)
Seat 8: smhirsch32 (830)
Seat 9: gyjgyj (1565)
Seat 10: oshbosh69 (600)
oshbosh69 posts small blind (25)
Adam88 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Jc, Ad ]
RedSoxFan calls (50)
tweezer762 raises (200) to 200
smhirsch32 folds.
gyjgyj folds.
oshbosh69 folds.
Adam88 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (150)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2c, 2h, 8d ]
RedSoxFan checks.
tweezer762 bets (100)
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 575
Board: [ 2c 2h 8d ]
Adam88 balance 1060, lost 50 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 940, lost 200 (folded)
tweezer762 balance 3030, bet 300, collected 575, net +275
smhirsch32 balance 830, didn't bet (folded)
gyjgyj balance 1565, didn't bet (folded)
oshbosh69 balance 575, lost 25 (folded)
--- What should I do on this one? Even after thinking about it right now, I don't have any idea if I made the right plays.
I ended up getting 4th. Very disappointing finish since after I doubled my chips on the very first hand I had high hopes I was going to break out of my 4th/5th streak.
I wouldn't limp from under the gun. make some sort of raise. that way you have a better clue as to what they have if they reraise. if the just call you have they same clue you had in this hand. I like the laydown on the flop here. It may be a bluff, or he may have had a pocket pair AQ or AK you can't win everyhand you play so getting out of a hand cheap is the right thing to do.
***** Hand History for Game 293048133 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652432) - Sat Dec 20 21:51:26 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 903 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: DON1028 (685)
Seat 2: McTib (1635)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (660)
Seat 4: DizzleDown (985)
Seat 5: mock2 (905)
Seat 7: maxreactor (1010)
Seat 8: luellman (570)
Seat 9: SuePowers (780)
Seat 10: APUMP1 (770)
mock2 posts small blind (10)
maxreactor posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 5c, As ]
luellman calls (15)
SuePowers folds.
APUMP1 folds.
DON1028 folds.
McTib calls (15)
RedSoxFan calls (15)
DizzleDown folds.
mock2 calls (5)
maxreactor checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7h, 8d, Ad ]
mock2 bets (15)
maxreactor folds.
luellman folds.
McTib folds.
RedSoxFan raises (30) to 30
mock2 calls (15)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ks ]
mock2 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (45)
mock2 calls (45)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ac ]
mock2 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (225)
mock2 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 450
Board: [ 7h 8d Ad Ks Ac ]
DON1028 balance 685, didn't bet (folded)
McTib balance 1620, lost 15 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 795, bet 315, collected 450, net +135
DizzleDown balance 985, didn't bet (folded)
mock2 balance 815, lost 90 (folded)
maxreactor balance 995, lost 15 (folded)
luellman balance 555, lost 15 (folded)
SuePowers balance 780, didn't bet (folded)
APUMP1 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
---This is from an earlier game. Nice to flop a pair of As, but someone could have that and a better kicker. I figured once I got another A on the river odds were he didnt have the 4th A.
It helps but don't count on the case ace not being out there. From the button you can play this but you must be very very very very careful, i don't recommend it in nl because if a bigger ace is out there you done for, and you should really lay this hand down to a bigger bet. in general this is a trouble hand and best not to play.
***** Hand History for Game 293054001 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1652432) - Sat Dec 20 21:55:35 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 903 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: DON1028 (595)
Seat 2: McTib (1530)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (765)
Seat 4: DizzleDown (925)
Seat 5: mock2 (460)
Seat 7: maxreactor (980)
Seat 8: luellman (2070)
Seat 9: SuePowers (675)
McTib posts small blind (15)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Ad, Tc ]
DizzleDown: hehehehe
DizzleDown calls (30)
mock2 calls (30)
maxreactor folds.
luellman calls (30)
SuePowers folds.
DON1028 folds.
McTib calls (15)
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7c, 6d, Ac ]
McTib checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
DizzleDown checks.
mock2 checks.
luellman checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
McTib bets (100)
RedSoxFan calls (100)
DizzleDown folds.
mock2 folds.
luellman folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
McTib bets (200)
RedSoxFan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 550
Board: [ 7c 6d Ac 2d Qs ]
DON1028 balance 595, didn't bet (folded)
McTib balance 1750, bet 330, collected 550, net +220
RedSoxFan balance 635, lost 130 (folded)
DizzleDown balance 895, lost 30 (folded)
mock2 balance 430, lost 30 (folded)
maxreactor balance 980, didn't bet (folded)
luellman balance 2040, lost 30 (folded)
SuePowers balance 675, didn't bet (folded)
--- Was I too cautious here?
He may have flopped a set or 2 pair and slowplayed but that isn't wise on his part. I think you were too cautious here. I prolly would have raised to 200 or 300 on his bet on the turn. the 2 doesn't scare me into anything. The next best option is to fold on the turn. if you're afraid of him hitting 2 pair. or afraid of fighting the larger stack.
Expunge
12-21-2003, 01:27 AM
i think it means clean up the mistakes and you'll make some money.
btw i'm one of 23 remaining in a $20+2 multi right now (limit)
Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
I hope you're right. I'm going to drop down to the $5/$1 tables for a little while. I think it's just going to take a little more practice.
I saw a book on Amazon I might get, a no-limit book by Cloutier. Anyone know if its any good? I just got Hold 'Em Poker by Carson at the bookstore. I flipped through it and it seemed good, and was half the cost of the other books. It only makes a passing mention of no-limit (but that's even more than the other books - and kind of curious that there hasn't been a new no-limit book published, since popularity in that has grown due to the 2003 world series of poker tv shows on espn.)
I'm halfway through holdem poker for advanced players by sklansky and malmuth. I think its good so far, brings up some good points that gets you thinking. Its one i'm going to keep rereading. its about $20 on amazon. I'm also considering a couple of others one is on the theory of poker. prolly designed more for nl. and there's another that is supposed to discuss the strategies of tourney poker.
RedSoxFan
12-21-2003, 10:40 AM
Again, thanks for the analysis.
and there's another that is supposed to discuss the strategies of tourney poker.
If you're talking about the one by Suzuki, I flipped through it at the bookstore. It talks all about the tournaments there in Vegas (and doesn't touch on online - one reason, it was published in 97). Doesn't touch much on actual strategies (like what to do on the flop, etc) but touches on every other part of the tournament (how to adjust your play based on different factors, what tournaments to play in, about the re-entries, etc).
Expunge
12-21-2003, 11:30 AM
sklansky has atournament book, and tom mcevoy alsoy has a tournament book. but i must admit i havn't flipped through either of them.
FSAme
12-21-2003, 03:29 PM
Anyone even reading my hand anaylsis? No debates? No discussion? Come on people this is how we get better.
Sorry, out of the office Friday afternoon and out of town all weekend. I'll respond to a few tomorrow
RedSoxFan
12-21-2003, 11:24 PM
I broke through! Played two tournaments, got 2nd in each. Here are my five most interesting hands of the night:
***** Hand History for Game 294396934 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1660430) - Sun Dec 21 19:16:15 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3745 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: EMAXX (490)
Seat 2: inpressure (310)
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (550)
Seat 4: dustboy93 (1830)
Seat 5: Hydro1000 (1225)
Seat 7: dominionman (400)
Seat 8: kermit1722 (700)
Seat 9: duffman5 (1355)
Seat 10: hawkeye25 (1140)
dustboy93 posts small blind (10)
Hydro1000 posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 2h, Jh ]
dominionman calls (15)
kermit1722 folds.
duffman5 folds.
hawkeye25 folds.
EMAXX calls (15)
inpressure folds.
RedSoxFan calls (15)
dustboy93 calls (5)
Hydro1000 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qd, Kd, Kc ]
dustboy93 checks.
Hydro1000 checks.
dominionman checks.
EMAXX checks.
RedSoxFan bets (50)
dustboy93 folds.
Hydro1000 folds.
dominionman calls (50)
EMAXX folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
dominionman checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 2d ]
dominionman checks.
RedSoxFan bets (30)
dominionman raises (335) to 335
dominionman calls all-In.
RedSoxFan calls (305)
Creating Main Pot with $845 with dominionman
** Summary **
Main Pot: 845 |
Board: [ Qd Kd Kc 5h 2d ]
EMAXX balance 475, lost 15 (folded)
inpressure balance 310, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 995, bet 400, collected 845, net +445 [ 2h Jh ] [ two pairs, kings and twos -- Kd,Kc,Qd,2h,2d ]
dustboy93 balance 1815, lost 15 (folded)
Hydro1000 balance 1210, lost 15 (folded)
dominionman balance 0, lost 400 [ Tc 9d ] [ a pair of kings -- Kd,Kc,Qd,Tc,9d ]
kermit1722 balance 700, didn't bet (folded)
duffman5 balance 1355, didn't bet (folded)
hawkeye25 balance 1140, didn't bet (folded)
dominionman finished in ninth place.
--- I had a feeling he didn't have anything from how he bet, and that he was trying to steal the pot, so I called his all-in on the river when I paired my deuce. Being in late position really helpe din this one.
***** Hand History for Game 294425661 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1660430) - Sun Dec 21 19:35:53 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3745 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (910)
Seat 4: dustboy93 (1360)
Seat 5: Hydro1000 (2100)
Seat 8: kermit1722 (1135)
Seat 9: duffman5 (1495)
Seat 10: hawkeye25 (1000)
Hydro1000 posts small blind (25)
kermit1722 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Td, As ]
duffman5 folds.
hawkeye25 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (50)
dustboy93 folds.
Hydro1000 calls (25)
kermit1722 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6s, 7d, Tc ]
Hydro1000 bets (50)
kermit1722 calls (50)
RedSoxFan calls (50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ah ]
Hydro1000 checks.
kermit1722 bets (150)
RedSoxFan calls (150)
Hydro1000 folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ 7s ]
kermit1722 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (200)
kermit1722 calls (200)
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1000
Board: [ 6s 7d Tc Ah 7s ]
RedSoxFan balance 1460, bet 450, collected 1000, net +550 [ Td As ] [ two pairs, aces and tens -- As,Ah,Td,Tc,7d ]
dustboy93 balance 1360, didn't bet (folded)
Hydro1000 balance 2000, lost 100 (folded)
kermit1722 balance 685, lost 450 [ 4h Ts ] [ two pairs, tens and sevens -- Ah,Ts,Tc,7d,7s ]
duffman5 balance 1495, didn't bet (folded)
hawkeye25 balance 1000, didn't bet (folded)
--- I decided to slow play this one on the flop because I was in late position. Not sure why kermit bet so big on the turn, but I think I should have raised him back.
***** Hand History for Game 294428166 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1660430) - Sun Dec 21 19:37:36 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3745 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (1460)
Seat 4: dustboy93 (1360)
Seat 5: Hydro1000 (2000)
Seat 8: kermit1722 (685)
Seat 9: duffman5 (1495)
Seat 10: hawkeye25 (1000)
kermit1722 posts small blind (25)
duffman5 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Kc, Qs ]
hawkeye25 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (50)
dustboy93 folds.
Hydro1000 folds.
kermit1722 calls (25)
duffman5 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5s, As, Tc ]
kermit1722 bets (50)
duffman5 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jd ]
kermit1722 bets (50)
RedSoxFan raises (100) to 100
kermit1722 raises (100) to 150
RedSoxFan raises (1260) to 1360
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
kermit1722 calls (435)
kermit1722 calls all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ Th ]
Creating Main Pot with $1420 with kermit1722
Creating Side Pot 1 with $775 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1420 | Side Pot 1: 775
Board: [ 5s As Tc Jd Th ]
RedSoxFan balance 2195, bet 1460, collected 2195, net +735 [ Kc Qs ] [ a straight, ten to ace -- As,Kc,Qs,Jd,Tc ]
dustboy93 balance 1360, didn't bet (folded)
Hydro1000 balance 2000, didn't bet (folded)
kermit1722 balance 0, lost 685 [ 2d Ac ] [ two pairs, aces and tens -- Ac,As,Jd,Tc,Th ]
duffman5 balance 1445, lost 50 (folded)
hawkeye25 balance 1000, didn't bet (folded)
kermit1722 finished in sixth place.
--- This one fell together nicely, and now all of the sudden I'm big stack with five left.
***** Hand History for Game 294437921 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1660430) - Sun Dec 21 19:44:27 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3745 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (1745)
Seat 4: dustboy93 (885)
Seat 5: Hydro1000 (2550)
Seat 9: duffman5 (1745)
Seat 10: hawkeye25 (1075)
RedSoxFan posts small blind (50)
dustboy93 posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 2h, Kh ]
Hydro1000 calls (100)
duffman5 folds.
hawkeye25 folds.
RedSoxFan calls (50)
dustboy93 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7h, 9h, 9d ]
RedSoxFan checks.
dustboy93 checks.
Hydro1000 bets (100)
RedSoxFan calls (100)
dustboy93 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4h ]
RedSoxFan checks.
Hydro1000 bets (100)
RedSoxFan calls (100)
** Dealing River ** : [ Qh ]
RedSoxFan checks.
Hydro1000 checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 700
Board: [ 7h 9h 9d 4h Qh ]
RedSoxFan balance 2145, bet 300, collected 700, net +400 [ 2h Kh ] [ a flush, king high -- Kh,Qh,9h,7h,4h ]
dustboy93 balance 785, lost 100 (folded)
Hydro1000 balance 2250, lost 300 [ 4d Jd ] [ two pairs, nines and fours -- Qh,9h,9d,4d,4h ]
duffman5 balance 1745, didn't bet (folded)
hawkeye25 balance 1075, didn't bet (folded)
--- I made my flush on the turn, but the way he bet on the flop and on the turn really confused me. Made me think he might have had a flush also. And when a fourth heart came on the river, I made the cautious play. In retrospect, I should have bet on the turn, and probably on the river as well.
***** Hand History for Game 294442823 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1660430) - Sun Dec 21 19:47:55 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3745 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: RedSoxFan (1945)
Seat 4: dustboy93 (1920)
Seat 5: Hydro1000 (1465)
Seat 9: duffman5 (1595)
Seat 10: hawkeye25 (1075)
RedSoxFan posts small blind (50)
dustboy93 posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Ac, As ]
Hydro1000 folds.
duffman5 folds.
hawkeye25 calls (100)
RedSoxFan raises (150) to 200
dustboy93 folds.
hawkeye25 calls (100)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, Tc, 3s ]
RedSoxFan bets (225)
hawkeye25 calls (225)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jc ]
RedSoxFan checks.
hawkeye25 bets (200)
RedSoxFan calls (200)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ad ]
RedSoxFan bets (1320)
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
hawkeye25 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2670 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2670
Board: [ 3h Tc 3s Jc Ad ]
RedSoxFan balance 2670, bet 1945, collected 2670, net +725
dustboy93 balance 1820, lost 100 (folded)
Hydro1000 balance 1465, didn't bet (folded)
duffman5 balance 1595, didn't bet (folded)
hawkeye25 balance 450, lost 625 (folded)
--- The way he called my bet on the flop made me think it was reasonably possible he had pocket 10s and flopped a boat, so I decided to play conservatively. In retrospect, since on the river I had the nuts (unless he had four 3s) maybe I should have checked-raised or made a smaller bet that he might have called?
As delighted as I was to place in the money after such a long cold streak, I was a little disappointed not to get first either time. Both times it was pretty close, both of them went back and forth. But I wonder if I was judging my hole cards properly. And it's particularly important at this stage to play well, since there's a big difference in prize money between first and second.
So what types of hands are playable (talking about pre-flop only)? I know you'd want to play pairs, and definitely raise the higher ones. Now what if, say, you're the small blind, what can you call/raise with? Is J5o good enough to call? Q6o good enough to raise? Is something like T9s good (you definitely don't have pot odds to draw for a flush or straight - which leads to another question, should you draw to a flush or straight after the flop?)
Expunge
12-22-2003, 09:46 AM
heads up depends the most on your opponent. against opponents that will fold quite often, you're usually best to raise with just about anyhand. he may give you a free bb. if not he may just call telling you he has a decent hand and see a flop. now if you don't flop good, you can get out. Once they catch wind of this they will start raising your preflop bet on anything. Any two cards are winners this is even more true heads up. I actually am a little more cautios of a small pair heads up because if they have a bigger pair your stuck with 2 outs. most other hands there are a couple of ways to make it. It's all about getting a read on your opponent. And then not getting out drawn on the turn or river.
Bama Gambler
12-22-2003, 09:50 AM
***** Hand History for Game 291355730 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:02:15 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1765)
Seat 3: MKasmarick (195)
Seat 4: craw3 (675)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2300)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (780)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (785)
Seat 9: ur24sell (820)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (680)
ur24sell posts small blind (15)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 2c, Ks ]
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
MKasmarick folds.
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 calls (30)
quickdog77 calls (30)
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (15)
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7s, Td, 7h ]
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan checks.
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
quickdog77 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7d ]
ur24sell bets (30)
RedSoxFan calls (30)
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 folds.
quickdog77 calls (30)
** Dealing River ** : [ Kh ]
ur24sell bets (30)
RedSoxFan raises (90) to 90
craw3 folds.
quickdog77 folds.
ur24sell folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 390
Board: [ 7s Td 7h 7d Kh ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1765, didn't bet (folded)
MKasmarick balance 195, didn't bet (folded)
craw3 balance 615, lost 60 (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2270, lost 30 (folded)
quickdog77 balance 720, lost 60 (folded)
CharlesLS balance 785, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 730, lost 90 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 920, bet 150, collected 390, net +240
--- limped in with big blind. everyone checked on the flop and suddenly there were two pair on the board, so I figured nobody had anything. I assumed from how people bet on the river that nobody had an A, so with a K I had the high card. was that the right thinking?
When 5 players see the flop it's very likely someone has an ace. On the turn you are out of position to make that call. Since he bet 30 into a pot of 150 (after checking the flop) you can put him on a weak hand (but he might have an Ace). The people you need to worry about are the ones left to act behind you. They could have easily limped with a small pocket pair b4 the flop and since no one bet the flop they got to see the turn for free. Now when the 7 hits the turn it makes them a full house.
In general I don't like calling unless I'm trying to trap. If you call you can only win by showing down the better hand. This pot is hard to steal since people won't give anyone credit for a hand since everyone checked the flop. When there a 5 players seeing the flop, then stealing (or catching someone stealing) is pretty much out of the question.
Now since you called on the turn let's look at your river play. Before he bets on the river the pot is 190. He bets 30. So the pot is 210. In this spot only three hands can beat you AA, TT, 7x. None of these are likely. Why not raise MUCH more and try to make it look like you are stealing the pot? If someone has a pocket pair they will prob call you. Might as well try to win a large pot.
Bama Gambler
12-22-2003, 10:03 AM
***** Hand History for Game 291360822 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1642598) - Fri Dec 19 21:05:44 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2792 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: DMBJUNKIE3 (1885)
Seat 3: MKasmarick (105)
Seat 4: craw3 (615)
Seat 5: dkuf811 (2270)
Seat 6: quickdog77 (660)
Seat 8: CharlesLS (785)
Seat 9: ur24sell (730)
Seat 10: RedSoxFan (950)
MKasmarick posts small blind (15)
craw3 posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Ks, Kd ]
dkuf811 calls (30)
quickdog77 folds.
CharlesLS folds.
ur24sell calls (30)
RedSoxFan raises (60) to 60
DMBJUNKIE3 folds.
MKasmarick folds.
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 calls (30)
ur24sell calls (30)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, Kc, 5d ]
craw3 checks.
dkuf811 checks.
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan bets (30)
craw3 calls (30)
dkuf811 folds.
ur24sell calls (30)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5s ]
craw3 checks.
ur24sell checks.
RedSoxFan bets (60)
craw3 calls (60)
ur24sell folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
craw3 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (250)
craw3 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 715
Board: [ Qc Kc 5d 5s 6c ]
DMBJUNKIE3 balance 1885, didn't bet (folded)
MKasmarick balance 90, lost 15 (folded)
craw3 balance 465, lost 150 (folded)
dkuf811 balance 2210, lost 60 (folded)
quickdog77 balance 660, didn't bet (folded)
CharlesLS balance 785, didn't bet (folded)
ur24sell balance 640, lost 90 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 1265, bet 400, collected 715, net +315
--- i knew i pretty much had the nuts on the flop. didn't want to bet so high as to get people to fold, but i still wanted to make some money. did i take a good middle road? Do you have a standard preflop raise? I usually use 3x. I use 3x BB for a raise if I'm first into the pot, but if people have limped in front of me then I usually raise more. When the action got to you preflop the pot was 15+30+30+30=105. Raising to 60 doesn't make much sense. KK is a hand you really want to play shorthanded. I would prob raise to something like 150 here. You have to make them pay to see the flop and you have to protect yourself. You don't want someone to call you with JT and flop two pair. You don't want someone to call you with A5 s and flop an Ace. Make a big raise b4 the flop.
On the flop you need to protect your hand. There are str draws and a flush draw. The pot is already 255. By only betting 30 your laying them 9.5:1 odds. That's waaaaay to much. I would bet the pot (at least). Betting the pot would give them 2:1 and make their flush or str draw incorrect.
On the turn the pot is 345. You need to bet MUCH more than 60. The bad players will continue to draw to the flush or str even though the turn makes a full house possible. Make them pay to draw. I would bet at least 300 on the turn.
FSAme
12-22-2003, 10:04 AM
RSF, Based on your last post, I assume you were playing at Party and in a single table at $30 or under (8000 total chips, there are 10,000 total chips to start at $50 or higher). I've played in lots of these and been fairly successful (in the money about 70% of the time). For a while, I could never get past 3rd, but then realized you must read your opponents really well during the whole game to beat them at this stage. Knowing your opponents style will get you much further at this stage vs. playing your typical "I only bet if I have a top 10er".
For instance, in the crazy tourney I posted to start this thread, the people I was playing against were playing really, really tight, and then aggressive when they had hands. I knew (or, at least, thought) that when it got down to the final 3, they would definitely fold if they didn't have anything. That's why what appeared to be idiotic all-ins by me worked to my favor. Now, had I been playing someone like bama, going all-in on every hand would clearly not have worked, and a different strategy would need to be used. There are several of these single table that I've won without trying to buy any pots and only playing the top opening hands. It all depends on the remaining opponents.
One more comment, the way the blinds are usually so big by the end of these single tables - it's really almost a crap shoot once it's down to the final 3. But in getting to the final 3, I've found that playing very tight is the best way to go. Last night, I got to the final 3 with only playing in one hand.
Bama Gambler
12-22-2003, 10:07 AM
One more comment, the way the blinds are usually so big by the end of these single tables - it's really almost a crap shoot once it's down to the final 3. But in getting to the final 3, I've found that playing very tight is the best way to go. Last night, I got to the final 3 with only playing in one hand.I agree completely.
RedSoxFan
12-22-2003, 10:23 AM
One more comment, the way the blinds are usually so big by the end of these single tables - it's really almost a crap shoot once it's down to the final 3. But in getting to the final 3, I've found that playing very tight is the best way to go. Last night, I got to the final 3 with only playing in one hand.I agree completely.
Yeah, I've been playing 5/1 and 10/1 at Party Poker, and I agree. The players there seem very loose. They'll call the BB with something like T6o. I just have to wait until I get something good, and chances are it will pay off nicely.
Bama, thanks for your comments as well. Hopefully this is instructional for others as well.
Unfortunately with the holidays I won't be able to play much, if at all, over the next few days. I'll catch up on this thread when I can.
Bama Gambler
12-22-2003, 11:20 AM
This thread is too clutered. Another tournament history has been posted and I haven't responded much to the first one. Please see this thread: http://actuary.ca/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=22015
FSAme
12-22-2003, 11:23 AM
One more comment, the way the blinds are usually so big by the end of these single tables - it's really almost a crap shoot once it's down to the final 3. But in getting to the final 3, I've found that playing very tight is the best way to go. Last night, I got to the final 3 with only playing in one hand.I agree completely.
Yeah, I've been playing 5/1 and 10/1 at Party Poker, and I agree. The players there seem very loose. They'll call the BB with something like T6o. I just have to wait until I get something good, and chances are it will pay off nicely.
Bama, thanks for your comments as well. Hopefully this is instructional for others as well.
Unfortunately with the holidays I won't be able to play much, if at all, over the next few days. I'll catch up on this thread when I can.
One more note: I've noticed a big change in play between the 5 or 10 - very loose - and the 30 or $50 buy-ins - much tighter. And even a bigger diff in play in the few $100 single table tourneys I've entered - much better players.
Expunge
12-22-2003, 02:27 PM
at party's $20 nl multis i've noticed that the early rounds are dratically loose and aggressive and willing to gamble. This is to me very dangerous as an early outdraw on a 2:1 favorite and you're done for. You can't keep laying these hands down either or you're too short stacked to do much without help.
RedSoxFan
12-27-2003, 11:15 PM
Played twice tonight, 7th in the first one, 2nd in the second. Any comments on the below three hands are appreciated.
***** Hand History for Game 303252818 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1711283) - Sat Dec 27 19:03:18 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3758 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: RedSoxFan (755)
Seat 3: dietersilva (810)
Seat 4: joandjoe (240)
Seat 5: leftyace1 (2165)
Seat 6: h1ck14 (1515)
Seat 8: LiLLuckyOkie (1355)
Seat 9: WoodenAce (1160)
WoodenAce posts small blind (25)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 9s, Th ]
dietersilva folds.
joandjoe folds.
leftyace1 folds.
h1ck14 folds.
LiLLuckyOkie calls (50)
WoodenAce calls (25)
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, 8c, Jd ]
WoodenAce checks.
RedSoxFan bets (150)
LiLLuckyOkie raises (300) to 300
WoodenAce folds.
RedSoxFan calls (150)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8d ]
RedSoxFan checks.
LiLLuckyOkie bets (175)
RedSoxFan calls (175)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5d ]
RedSoxFan checks.
LiLLuckyOkie checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1100
Board: [ 3h 8c Jd 8d 5d ]
RedSoxFan balance 230, lost 525 [ 9s Th ] [ a pair of eights -- Jd,Th,9s,8c,8d ]
dietersilva balance 810, didn't bet (folded)
joandjoe balance 240, didn't bet (folded)
leftyace1 balance 2165, didn't bet (folded)
h1ck14 balance 1515, didn't bet (folded)
LiLLuckyOkie balance 1930, bet 525, collected 1100, net +575 [ Kc Js ] [ two pairs, jacks and eights -- Kc,Js,Jd,8c,8d ]
WoodenAce balance 1110, lost 50 (folded)
--- I don't really know how to play open-end straight draws very well. On the turn, if I call the pot is 1100, and I have 175. 1100/175 = 6.29/1. That means I need 1/6.29 = 15.9% winning chance, right? I have eight outs, and 47 cards haven't been seen, a 17.0% chance. So my call right there was correct, right? Going back to the flop though, I probably should have folded there, right? And on the river, should I have considered going all-in (with my remaining 230) right there, trying to steal the pot representing a flush that just hit with the river? Given that he checked, he wasn't very confident in what he had. Unfortunately I had to act first. If he had to act first, and checked, then I think betting the 230 is definitely possible.
***** Hand History for Game 303282403 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1711646) - Sat Dec 27 19:23:48 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3745 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: dphman (995)
Seat 2: mamachicka65 (1405)
Seat 4: RedSoxFan (945)
Seat 5: REV800 (2260)
Seat 8: cubiche (755)
Seat 9: dug869 (855)
Seat 10: verngozznen (785)
verngozznen posts small blind (10)
dphman posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 8h, 9c ]
mamachicka65 calls (15)
RedSoxFan calls (15)
REV800 raises (30) to 30
cubiche calls (30)
dug869 folds.
verngozznen calls (20)
dphman calls (15)
mamachicka65 calls (15)
RedSoxFan calls (15)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6h, 5d, 7s ]
verngozznen checks.
dphman checks.
mamachicka65 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (150)
REV800 calls (150)
cubiche calls (150)
verngozznen folds.
dphman calls (150)
mamachicka65 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6s ]
dphman checks.
RedSoxFan bets (765)
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
REV800 folds.
cubiche calls (575)
cubiche calls all-In.
dphman folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ 2h ]
Creating Main Pot with $1930 with cubiche
Creating Side Pot 1 with $190 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1930 | Side Pot 1: 190
Board: [ 6h 5d 7s 6s 2h ]
dphman balance 815, lost 180 (folded)
mamachicka65 balance 1375, lost 30 (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 2120, bet 945, collected 2120, net +1175 [ 8h 9c ] [ a straight, five to nine -- 9c,8h,7s,6h,5d ]
REV800 balance 2080, lost 180 (folded)
cubiche balance 0, lost 755 [ 7d 9d ] [ two pairs, sevens and sixes -- 9d,7d,7s,6h,6s ]
dug869 balance 855, didn't bet (folded)
verngozznen balance 755, lost 30 (folded)
cubiche finished in seventh place.
--- This is from the second tournament. With great luck I flopped top straight and now flush possibilities. Amazingly, with that flop, four people called my $150 bet. I was baffled as to what these people had, and despite the board pairing on the turn, I plowed ahead and put it all-in. Now, for my questions. I probably shouldn't have called pre-flop, right? Should I have bet more on the flop? Should I have been more careful on the turn (since three others called and the board paired, someone might have gotten a full house)? - and yes, after just 7 hands, 4 people are out.
***** Hand History for Game 303287192 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1711646) - Sat Dec 27 19:27:10 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3745 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: dphman (1150)
Seat 2: mamachicka65 (1070)
Seat 4: RedSoxFan (2120)
Seat 5: REV800 (2065)
Seat 9: dug869 (840)
Seat 10: verngozznen (755)
mamachicka65 posts small blind (10)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Qs, Jd ]
REV800 calls (15)
dug869 folds.
verngozznen folds.
dphman folds.
mamachicka65 calls (5)
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2s, As, Ts ]
mamachicka65 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (15)
REV800 folds.
mamachicka65 calls (15)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9d ]
mamachicka65 bets (15)
RedSoxFan raises (65) to 65
mamachicka65 calls (50)
** Dealing River ** : [ 8s ]
mamachicka65 bets (125)
RedSoxFan calls (125)
** Summary **
Main Pot: 455
Board: [ 2s As Ts 9d 8s ]
dphman balance 1150, didn't bet (folded)
mamachicka65 balance 850, lost 220 [ 4s Ad ] [ a flush, ace high -- As,Ts,8s,4s,2s ]
RedSoxFan balance 2355, bet 220, collected 455, net +235 [ Qs Jd ] [ a flush, ace high with queen kicker -- As,Qs,Ts,8s,2s ]
REV800 balance 2050, lost 15 (folded)
dug869 balance 840, didn't bet (folded)
verngozznen balance 755, didn't bet (folded)
--- I think I should have been more aggressive on the flop, since I have a draw to a pretty good flush (if I hit, only someone with Ks can beat me) and I'm only missing a K for a straight. Of course I didn't know whether someone flopped a flush. Mama called the flop bet, which wasn't much. She could have been slow-playing though. I went ahead and raised the turn, which was called. When Mama bet 125 on the river, I was scared she had the Ks, so I just called. Was my fear legitimate or was I too weak?
FSAme
12-27-2003, 11:33 PM
Made it to break #1 of the big $300 + $20 nl tourney at partypoker. qualified today in a $36 + $3 single table on my first attempt.
I have 2000 chips, average is 1600. Started with 898 players, down to 557, I'll update each hour at break until I win or get eliminated. Top 70 get money....
wish me luck. :D
RedSoxFan
12-27-2003, 11:58 PM
good luck!
Do they have such tournaments every day? and at multiple times of the day?
FSAme
12-28-2003, 12:01 AM
good luck!
Do they have such tournaments every day? and at multiple times of the day?
Thanks,
weekly. Sat 200k guaranteed is $300 + $20 buy in. Sunday is $200 + $15 buy in. they have 24/7 single table (10 person) qualifiers. you win the table, your entry fee is covered.
This one started at 10PM. last weeks ended at 7 am. I'm in for the long haul if I do well, but the 1st place money is almost $60k.
I'm still hangin' in. update soon.
FSAme
12-28-2003, 12:34 AM
Made it to break #1 of the big $300 + $20 nl tourney at partypoker. qualified today in a $36 + $3 single table on my first attempt.
I have 2000 chips, average is 1600. Started with 898 players, down to 557, I'll update each hour at break until I win or get eliminated. Top 70 get money....
wish me luck. :D
Break #2. Only 240 remaining. I'm at 2300 chips, was up to 4000, but had a few bad ones. Average stack = 3700. I've got my work cut out, but am remaining patient. Blinds will be at 100/200, so I've got a few rounds to wait for a good one.
again, wish me luck, only 170 more spots to go for a minimum of $810.
FSAme
12-28-2003, 01:39 AM
Made it to break #1 of the big $300 + $20 nl tourney at partypoker. qualified today in a $36 + $3 single table on my first attempt.
I have 2000 chips, average is 1600. Started with 898 players, down to 557, I'll update each hour at break until I win or get eliminated. Top 70 get money....
wish me luck. :D
Break #2. Only 240 remaining. I'm at 2300 chips, was up to 4000, but had a few bad ones. Average stack = 3700. I've got my work cut out, but am remaining patient. Blinds will be at 100/200, so I've got a few rounds to wait for a good one.
again, wish me luck, only 170 more spots to go for a minimum of $810.
Break #3 and I'm still hangin!!!!!!!!!!!
I have 4500 chips, chip leader at 33k, 112 people remaining, need to make it to 70. avg chip count 8000, still laggin but hanging in there.
again, again, wish me luck! papa needs a brand new car!!!!!!! :P
FSAme
12-28-2003, 02:06 AM
Made it to break #1 of the big $300 + $20 nl tourney at partypoker. qualified today in a $36 + $3 single table on my first attempt.
I have 2000 chips, average is 1600. Started with 898 players, down to 557, I'll update each hour at break until I win or get eliminated. Top 70 get money....
wish me luck. :D
Break #2. Only 240 remaining. I'm at 2300 chips, was up to 4000, but had a few bad ones. Average stack = 3700. I've got my work cut out, but am remaining patient. Blinds will be at 100/200, so I've got a few rounds to wait for a good one.
again, wish me luck, only 170 more spots to go for a minimum of $810.
Break #3 and I'm still hangin!!!!!!!!!!!
I have 4500 chips, chip leader at 33k, 112 people remaining, need to make it to 70. avg chip count 8000, still laggin but hanging in there.
again, again, wish me luck! papa needs a brand new car!!!!!!! :P
dam, done at #87. Oh well, good learning experience. There were a few I coulda played better. wish i could have hung on for 17 more spots.....
I'll get 'em next time
T-roy Boy
12-28-2003, 02:15 PM
Got a Royal Flush this weekend and beat out a Full house (10's over J's). They considered it a bad beat - I didn't. What do you guys think?
I got to keep the deck of cards. I think I may frame my hole cards, my opponents hole cards and the 5 community cards, just to start a wall of fame by my downstairs bar.
Happy Extinction
12-28-2003, 03:14 PM
I think I may frame my hole cards, my opponents hole cards and the 5 community cards, just to start a wall of fame by my downstairs bar.
Great idea - both the frame idea and a downstairs bar.
RedSoxFan
12-30-2003, 09:41 PM
I know nobody has responded to any of my hand posts recently but just in case someone feels inspired :) I'm posting a handful from tonight.
By the way, don't feel like you need to be a good player to comment. I think discussing hands is a great way to learn, not just for the person whose hands are being commented on, but for others as well. And I've kind of adopted this thread as one for intermediate players posting hands for comment, so feel free to add posts of your own.
***** Hand History for Game 307996348 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1738344) - Tue Dec 30 18:23:42 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2782 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: GhettoStar (790)
Seat 2: aniruddh11 (733)
Seat 3: cfett515 (630)
Seat 4: toggen (1055)
Seat 5: larryg1949 (652)
Seat 6: lucksel (575)
Seat 7: RepoGirl (545)
Seat 8: RedSoxFan (870)
Seat 9: Hatch81 (925)
Seat 10: beachrog (1225)
cfett515 posts small blind (15)
toggen posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 5d, Ah ]
larryg1949 folds.
lucksel calls (30)
RepoGirl folds.
RedSoxFan calls (30)
Hatch81 calls (30)
beachrog folds.
GhettoStar folds.
aniruddh11 folds.
cfett515 folds.
toggen checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, 7d, 8d ]
toggen checks.
lucksel bets (30)
RedSoxFan calls (30)
Hatch81 folds.
toggen folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8c ]
lucksel bets (30)
RedSoxFan calls (30)
** Dealing River ** : [ Jc ]
lucksel bets (30)
RedSoxFan calls (30)
** Summary **
Main Pot: 315
Board: [ Ac 7d 8d 8c Jc ]
GhettoStar balance 790, didn't bet (folded)
aniruddh11 balance 733, didn't bet (folded)
cfett515 balance 615, lost 15 (folded)
toggen balance 1025, lost 30 (folded)
larryg1949 balance 652, didn't bet (folded)
lucksel balance 770, bet 120, collected 315, net +195 [ Tc 9s ] [ a straight, seven to jack -- Jc,Tc,9s,8d,7d ]
RepoGirl balance 545, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 750, lost 120 [ 5d Ah ] [ two pairs, aces and eights -- Ah,Ac,Jc,8d,8c ]
Hatch81 balance 895, lost 30 (folded)
beachrog balance 1225, didn't bet (folded)
--- I played this one carefully because he could have an A with a better kicker. He bet kind of odd, 30 each time, so I just kept calling. Kind of weird how he got the straight on the river but didn't bet big. Not really sure what I could have done differently, because my hand wasn't good enough to raise at any point, certainly not enough to give him bad pot odds for his straight draw. And it was just 30 chips each time, not enough reason to fold. Guess that's the sort of trouble you can get into with A5o.
***** Hand History for Game 308011311 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1738344) - Tue Dec 30 18:33:49 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2782 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: GhettoStar (570)
Seat 2: aniruddh11 (628)
Seat 3: cfett515 (1290)
Seat 4: toggen (625)
Seat 5: larryg1949 (417)
Seat 6: lucksel (365)
Seat 7: RepoGirl (1175)
Seat 8: RedSoxFan (1000)
Seat 9: Hatch81 (800)
Seat 10: beachrog (1130)
larryg1949 posts small blind (25)
lucksel posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Kh, Jd ]
RepoGirl folds.
RedSoxFan calls (50)
Hatch81 calls (50)
beachrog folds.
GhettoStar folds.
aniruddh11 folds.
cfett515 calls (50)
toggen calls (50)
larryg1949 raises (75) to 100
lucksel folds.
RedSoxFan calls (50)
Hatch81 calls (50)
cfett515 calls (50)
toggen calls (50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kd, Jh, Ah ]
larryg1949 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (900)
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
Hatch81 calls (700)
Hatch81 calls all-In.
cfett515 folds.
toggen calls (525)
toggen calls all-In.
larryg1949 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 8s ]
Creating Main Pot with $2125 with toggen
Creating Side Pot 1 with $350 with Hatch81
Creating Side Pot 2 with $200 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2125 | Side Pot 1: 350 | Side Pot 2: 200
Board: [ Kd Jh Ah Qc 8s ]
GhettoStar balance 570, didn't bet (folded)
aniruddh11 balance 628, didn't bet (folded)
cfett515 balance 1190, lost 100 (folded)
toggen balance 0, lost 625 [ 9h Qh ] [ a pair of queens -- Ah,Kd,Qh,Qc,Jh ]
larryg1949 balance 317, lost 100 (folded)
lucksel balance 315, lost 50 (folded)
RepoGirl balance 1175, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 2675, bet 1000, collected 2675, net +1675 [ Kh Jd ] [ two pairs, kings and jacks -- Ah,Kh,Kd,Jd,Jh ]
Hatch81 balance 0, lost 800 [ 5h 7h ] [ high card ace -- Ah,Kd,Qc,Jh,8s ]
beachrog balance 1130, didn't bet (folded)
toggen finished in tenth place.
Hatch81 finished in ninth place.
--- This was a crazy hand. I wanted to protect my two pair on the flop. I was very surprised when I got two callers! One person's chance of succeeding with a flush draw is 35% right? (1-38/47*37/46). I think the first guy's pot odds were 41% (700/1700), so not really close enough to be correct, but certainly the 3rd guy's was correct. But their chances were actually lower since they were both on a draw. Fortunately they didn't hit.
***** Hand History for Game 308026649 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1738344) - Tue Dec 30 18:44:18 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2782 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: GhettoStar (2130)
Seat 3: cfett515 (2553)
Seat 7: RepoGirl (1072)
Seat 8: RedSoxFan (2245)
RepoGirl posts small blind (100)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Ac, Kc ]
GhettoStar calls (200)
cfett515 calls (200)
RepoGirl calls (100)
RedSoxFan raises (200) to 400
GhettoStar calls (200)
cfett515 folds.
RepoGirl calls (200)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 5s, 7c ]
RepoGirl bets (672)
RepoGirl calls all-In.
RedSoxFan calls (672)
RepoGirl: oops
GhettoStar raises (1730) to 1730
GhettoStar calls all-In.
RepoGirl: uh oh
RepoGirl: lol
RedSoxFan calls (1058)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 4d ]
Creating Main Pot with $3416 with RepoGirl
Creating Side Pot 1 with $2116 with GhettoStar
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3416 | Side Pot 1: 2116 |
Board: [ 8d 5s 7c 2h 4d ]
GhettoStar balance 3824, bet 2130, collected 3824, net +1694 [ 8s As ] [ a pair of eights -- As,8s,8d,7c,5s ]
cfett515 balance 2353, lost 200 (folded)
RepoGirl balance 1708, bet 1072, collected 1708, net +636 [ Ah 8h ] [ a pair of eights -- Ah,8h,8d,7c,5s ]
RedSoxFan balance 115, lost 2130 [ Ac Kc ] [ high card ace -- Ac,Kc,8d,7c,5s ]
--- This was really tough to lose. I think both calls were pretty stupid. When the flop came so low I was thinking that they didn't have a pair because they called a raise pre-flop. Of course they could have had a decent pocket pair, or what they had, a pair with A kicker. But since I already put in 400 pre-flop, I tought maybe RepoGirl was bluffing with her all-in. Then GhettoStar re-raised so he was all-in. So I had another decision. I had already put so much in, it was hard to say goodbye to all that money. Plus, RepoGirl's comments reinforced my thought that she was bluffing. So I thought, at the worst, I "tie" for 3rd with RepoGirl, and since I had more chips coming into the hand, I win 3rd prize. So I went ahead and called the rest.
So anyway, flawed thinking, but that's what was going on in my head. I think I'll be more careful in the future.
***** Hand History for Game 308053058 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1738702) - Tue Dec 30 19:02:24 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3749 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: LT330 (450)
Seat 2: taylorms (940)
Seat 3: PacMan16 (580)
Seat 4: LIgolfer631 (1230)
Seat 5: JOEWOP (590)
Seat 6: CrazyTommyT (635)
Seat 7: RedSoxFan (995)
Seat 8: mike19 (890)
Seat 9: druw5050 (830)
Seat 10: hogansheros (860)
CrazyTommyT posts small blind (15)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Kh, Jh ]
mike19 folds.
druw5050 folds.
hogansheros calls (30)
LT330 folds.
taylorms folds.
PacMan16 folds.
LIgolfer631 folds.
JOEWOP folds.
CrazyTommyT calls (15)
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7h, Ks, 8c ]
CrazyTommyT bets (30)
RedSoxFan raises (60) to 60
hogansheros folds.
CrazyTommyT calls (30)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4d ]
CrazyTommyT checks.
RedSoxFan bets (85)
CrazyTommyT raises (170) to 170
RedSoxFan calls (85)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ts ]
CrazyTommyT bets (375)
CrazyTommyT calls all-In.
RedSoxFan calls (375)
Creating Main Pot with $1300 with CrazyTommyT
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1300 |
Board: [ 7h Ks 8c 4d Ts ]
LT330 balance 450, didn't bet (folded)
taylorms balance 940, didn't bet (folded)
PacMan16 balance 580, didn't bet (folded)
LIgolfer631 balance 1230, didn't bet (folded)
JOEWOP balance 590, didn't bet (folded)
CrazyTommyT balance 1300, bet 635, collected 1300, net +665 [ 4c Kc ] [ two pairs, kings and fours -- Kc,Ks,Ts,4c,4d ]
RedSoxFan balance 360, lost 635 [ Kh Jh ] [ a pair of kings -- Kh,Ks,Jh,Ts,8c ]
mike19 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
druw5050 balance 830, didn't bet (folded)
hogansheros balance 830, lost 30 (folded)
--- This was unfortunate. I raised on the flop because I had a good kicker with the top pair. I was surprised when he check-raised on the turn. Kind of hard to believe that 4 would help him that much. I think my mistake was calling his all-in on the river. I should have thought that he must have had something better than what I had given his actions on the turn and the river.
***** Hand History for Game 308060093 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1738702) - Tue Dec 30 19:07:11 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3749 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: LT330 (1050)
Seat 2: taylorms (940)
Seat 3: PacMan16 (580)
Seat 4: LIgolfer631 (1125)
Seat 5: JOEWOP (530)
Seat 6: CrazyTommyT (930)
Seat 7: RedSoxFan (330)
Seat 8: mike19 (960)
Seat 9: druw5050 (770)
Seat 10: hogansheros (785)
LT330 posts small blind (15)
taylorms posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 8s, Js ]
PacMan16 folds.
LIgolfer631 folds.
JOEWOP calls (30)
CrazyTommyT calls (30)
RedSoxFan calls (30)
mike19 folds.
druw5050 folds.
hogansheros calls (30)
LT330 calls (15)
taylorms checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 6c, 9s ]
LT330 checks.
taylorms checks.
JOEWOP checks.
CrazyTommyT bets (75)
RedSoxFan calls (75)
hogansheros raises (300) to 300
LT330 folds.
taylorms folds.
JOEWOP folds.
CrazyTommyT raises (825) to 900
CrazyTommyT calls all-In.
RedSoxFan calls (225)
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
hogansheros calls (455)
hogansheros calls all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Ad ]
Creating Main Pot with $1080 with RedSoxFan
Creating Side Pot 1 with $910 with hogansheros
Creating Side Pot 2 with $145 with CrazyTommyT
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1080 | Side Pot 1: 910 | Side Pot 2: 145
Board: [ Th 6c 9s 5d Ad ]
LT330 balance 1020, lost 30 (folded)
taylorms balance 910, lost 30 (folded)
PacMan16 balance 580, didn't bet (folded)
LIgolfer631 balance 1125, didn't bet (folded)
JOEWOP balance 500, lost 30 (folded)
CrazyTommyT balance 145, bet 930, collected 145, lost -785 [ Ts 7s ] [ a pair of tens -- Ad,Ts,Th,9s,7s ]
RedSoxFan balance 0, lost 330 [ 8s Js ] [ high card ace -- Ad,Js,Th,9s,8s ]
mike19 balance 960, didn't bet (folded)
druw5050 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
hogansheros balance 1990, bet 785, collected 1990, net +1205 [ 6s 6h ] [ three of a kind, sixes -- Ad,Th,6s,6h,6c ]
RedSoxFan finished in tenth place.
--- Last ditch chance to try to get some money back. I had good pot odds to make the straight. CrazyTT is pretty crazy, going all-in against a big bet and all he had was top pair with lousy kicker.
Expunge
12-30-2003, 11:10 PM
I know nobody has responded to any of my hand posts recently but just in case someone feels inspired :) I'm posting a handful from tonight.
By the way, don't feel like you need to be a good player to comment. I think discussing hands is a great way to learn, not just for the person whose hands are being commented on, but for others as well. And I've kind of adopted this thread as one for intermediate players posting hands for comment, so feel free to add posts of your own.
***** Hand History for Game 307996348 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1738344) - Tue Dec 30 18:23:42 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2782 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: GhettoStar (790)
Seat 2: aniruddh11 (733)
Seat 3: cfett515 (630)
Seat 4: toggen (1055)
Seat 5: larryg1949 (652)
Seat 6: lucksel (575)
Seat 7: RepoGirl (545)
Seat 8: RedSoxFan (870)
Seat 9: Hatch81 (925)
Seat 10: beachrog (1225)
cfett515 posts small blind (15)
toggen posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 5d, Ah ]
larryg1949 folds.
lucksel calls (30)
RepoGirl folds.
RedSoxFan calls (30)
Hatch81 calls (30)
beachrog folds.
GhettoStar folds.
aniruddh11 folds.
cfett515 folds.
toggen checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, 7d, 8d ]
toggen checks.
lucksel bets (30)
RedSoxFan calls (30)
Hatch81 folds.
toggen folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8c ]
lucksel bets (30)
RedSoxFan calls (30)
** Dealing River ** : [ Jc ]
lucksel bets (30)
RedSoxFan calls (30)
** Summary **
Main Pot: 315
Board: [ Ac 7d 8d 8c Jc ]
GhettoStar balance 790, didn't bet (folded)
aniruddh11 balance 733, didn't bet (folded)
cfett515 balance 615, lost 15 (folded)
toggen balance 1025, lost 30 (folded)
larryg1949 balance 652, didn't bet (folded)
lucksel balance 770, bet 120, collected 315, net +195 [ Tc 9s ] [ a straight, seven to jack -- Jc,Tc,9s,8d,7d ]
RepoGirl balance 545, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 750, lost 120 [ 5d Ah ] [ two pairs, aces and eights -- Ah,Ac,Jc,8d,8c ]
Hatch81 balance 895, lost 30 (folded)
beachrog balance 1225, didn't bet (folded)
--- I played this one carefully because he could have an A with a better kicker. He bet kind of odd, 30 each time, so I just kept calling. Kind of weird how he got the straight on the river but didn't bet big. Not really sure what I could have done differently, because my hand wasn't good enough to raise at any point, certainly not enough to give him bad pot odds for his straight draw. And it was just 30 chips each time, not enough reason to fold. Guess that's the sort of trouble you can get into with A5o.
Ditch A5 right from the get go 10 handed. Its a second best hand 9 times out of 10. 90% is a made up number
***** Hand History for Game 308011311 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1738344) - Tue Dec 30 18:33:49 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2782 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: GhettoStar (570)
Seat 2: aniruddh11 (628)
Seat 3: cfett515 (1290)
Seat 4: toggen (625)
Seat 5: larryg1949 (417)
Seat 6: lucksel (365)
Seat 7: RepoGirl (1175)
Seat 8: RedSoxFan (1000)
Seat 9: Hatch81 (800)
Seat 10: beachrog (1130)
larryg1949 posts small blind (25)
lucksel posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Kh, Jd ]
RepoGirl folds.
RedSoxFan calls (50)
Hatch81 calls (50)
beachrog folds.
GhettoStar folds.
aniruddh11 folds.
cfett515 calls (50)
toggen calls (50)
larryg1949 raises (75) to 100
lucksel folds.
RedSoxFan calls (50)
Hatch81 calls (50)
cfett515 calls (50)
toggen calls (50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kd, Jh, Ah ]
larryg1949 checks.
RedSoxFan bets (900)
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
Hatch81 calls (700)
Hatch81 calls all-In.
cfett515 folds.
toggen calls (525)
toggen calls all-In.
larryg1949 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 8s ]
Creating Main Pot with $2125 with toggen
Creating Side Pot 1 with $350 with Hatch81
Creating Side Pot 2 with $200 with RedSoxFan
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2125 | Side Pot 1: 350 | Side Pot 2: 200
Board: [ Kd Jh Ah Qc 8s ]
GhettoStar balance 570, didn't bet (folded)
aniruddh11 balance 628, didn't bet (folded)
cfett515 balance 1190, lost 100 (folded)
toggen balance 0, lost 625 [ 9h Qh ] [ a pair of queens -- Ah,Kd,Qh,Qc,Jh ]
larryg1949 balance 317, lost 100 (folded)
lucksel balance 315, lost 50 (folded)
RepoGirl balance 1175, didn't bet (folded)
RedSoxFan balance 2675, bet 1000, collected 2675, net +1675 [ Kh Jd ] [ two pairs, kings and jacks -- Ah,Kh,Kd,Jd,Jh ]
Hatch81 balance 0, lost 800 [ 5h 7h ] [ high card ace -- Ah,Kd,Qc,Jh,8s ]
beachrog balance 1130, didn't bet (folded)
toggen finished in tenth place.
Hatch81 finished in ninth place.
--- This was a crazy hand. I wanted to protect my two pair on the flop. I was very surprised when I got two callers! One person's chance of succeeding with a flush draw is 35% right? (1-38/47*37/46). I think the first guy's pot odds were 41% (700/1700), so not really close enough to be correct, but certainly the 3rd guy's was correct. But their chances were actually lower since they were both on a draw. Fortunately they didn't hit.
very scary hand its a gamble cause a 4 way flop might just have a made straight, on top of the flush possibility, a bigger 2 pair and a set. I bet it strong and see if anyone calls, might need to get away from a hand like this. otoh in a single table winning a hand like this pretty much guarantees a cash.
***** Hand History for Game 308026649 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1738344) - Tue Dec 30 18:44:18 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2782 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: GhettoStar (2130)
Seat 3: cfett515 (2553)
Seat 7: RepoGirl (1072)
Seat 8: RedSoxFan (2245)
RepoGirl posts small blind (100)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Ac, Kc ]
GhettoStar calls (200)
cfett515 calls (200)
RepoGirl calls (100)
RedSoxFan raises (200) to 400
GhettoStar calls (200)
cfett515 folds.
RepoGirl calls (200)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 5s, 7c ]
RepoGirl bets (672)
RepoGirl calls all-In.
RedSoxFan calls (672)
RepoGirl: oops
GhettoStar raises (1730) to 1730
GhettoStar calls all-In.
RepoGirl: uh oh
RepoGirl: lol
RedSoxFan calls (1058)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 4d ]
Creating Main Pot with $3416 with RepoGirl
Creating Side Pot 1 with $2116 with GhettoStar
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3416 | Side Pot 1: 2116 |
Board: [ 8d 5s 7c 2h 4d ]
GhettoStar balance 3824, bet 2130, collected 3824, net +1694 [ 8s As ] [ a pair of eights -- As,8s,8d,7c,5s ]
cfett515 balance 2353, lost 200 (folded)
RepoGirl balance 1708, bet 1072, collected 1708, net +636 [ Ah 8h ] [ a pair of eights -- Ah,8h,8d,7c,5s ]
RedSoxFan balance 115, lost 2130 [ Ac Kc ] [ high card ace -- Ac,Kc,8d,7c,5s ]
--- This was really tough to lose. I think both calls were pretty stupid. When the flop came so low I was thinking that they didn't have a pair because they called a raise pre-flop. Of course they could have had a decent pocket pair, or what they had, a pair with A kicker. But since I already put in 400 pre-flop, I tought maybe RepoGirl was bluffing with her all-in. Then GhettoStar re-raised so he was all-in. So I had another decision. I had already put so much in, it was hard to say goodbye to all that money. Plus, RepoGirl's comments reinforced my thought that she was bluffing. So I thought, at the worst, I "tie" for 3rd with RepoGirl, and since I had more chips coming into the hand, I win 3rd prize. So I went ahead and called the rest.
So anyway, flawed thinking, but that's what was going on in my head. I think I'll be more careful in the future.
whats with the weak raise preflop. what does it tell you about the other players hands? If they call a strong raise you need to worry about a pocket pair. you could also play this very conservative. see the free flop and if you don't make your pair get out. this way you preserve a cash.
***** Hand History for Game 308053058 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1738702) - Tue Dec 30 19:02:24 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3749 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: LT330 (450)
Seat 2: taylorms (940)
Seat 3: PacMan16 (580)
Seat 4: LIgolfer631 (1230)
Seat 5: JOEWOP (590)
Seat 6: CrazyTommyT (635)
Seat 7: RedSoxFan (995)
Seat 8: mike19 (890)
Seat 9: druw5050 (830)
Seat 10: hogansheros (860)
CrazyTommyT posts small blind (15)
RedSoxFan posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ Kh, Jh ]
mike19 folds.
druw5050 folds.
hogansheros calls (30)
LT330 folds.
taylorms folds.
PacMan16 folds.
LIgolfer631 folds.
JOEWOP folds.
CrazyTommyT calls (15)
RedSoxFan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7h, Ks, 8c ]
CrazyTommyT bets (30)
RedSoxFan raises (60) to 60
hogansheros folds.
CrazyTommyT calls (30)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4d ]
CrazyTommyT checks.
RedSoxFan bets (85)
CrazyTommyT raises (170) to 170
RedSoxFan calls (85)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ts ]
CrazyTommyT bets (375)
CrazyTommyT calls all-In.
RedSoxFan calls (375)
Creating Main Pot with $1300 with CrazyTommyT
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1300 |
Board: [ 7h Ks 8c 4d Ts ]
LT330 balance 450, didn't bet (folded)
taylorms balance 940, didn't bet (folded)
PacMan16 balance 580, didn't bet (folded)
LIgolfer631 balance 1230, didn't bet (folded)
JOEWOP balance 590, didn't bet (folded)
CrazyTommyT balance 1300, bet 635, collected 1300, net +665 [ 4c Kc ] [ two pairs, kings and fours -- Kc,Ks,Ts,4c,4d ]
RedSoxFan balance 360, lost 635 [ Kh Jh ] [ a pair of kings -- Kh,Ks,Jh,Ts,8c ]
mike19 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
druw5050 balance 830, didn't bet (folded)
hogansheros balance 830, lost 30 (folded)
--- This was unfortunate. I raised on the flop because I had a good kicker with the top pair. I was surprised when he check-raised on the turn. Kind of hard to believe that 4 would help him that much. I think my mistake was calling his all-in on the river. I should have thought that he must have had something better than what I had given his actions on the turn and the river.
the other problem is he saw a cheapo flop too he just needs something mediocre to do that, plus its at the start of a tourney so you should expect even weaker calls of the sb. When playing a cheap flop like this if you don't get your 2 pair you can make one bet at the pot if thats called or raised your top pair may not be good, time to slow down the play. You can still bluff at the pot but with his raise you almost always need to fold it. easier said than done.
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***** Hand History for Game 308060093 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 1738702) - Tue Dec 30 19:07:11 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 3749 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: LT330 (1050)
Seat 2: taylorms (940)
Seat 3: PacMan16 (580)
Seat 4: LIgolfer631 (1125)
Seat 5: JOEWOP (530)
Seat 6: CrazyTommyT (930)
Seat 7: RedSoxFan (330)
Seat 8: mike19 (960)
Seat 9: druw5050 (770)
Seat 10: hogansheros (785)
LT330 posts small blind (15)
taylorms posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RedSoxFan [ 8s, Js ]
PacMan16 folds.
LIgolfer631 folds.
JOEWOP calls (30)
CrazyTommyT calls (30)
RedSoxFan calls (30)
mike19 folds.
druw5050 folds.
hogansheros calls (30)
LT330 calls (15)
taylorms checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 6c, 9s ]
LT330 checks.
taylorms checks.
JOEWOP checks.
CrazyTommyT bets (75)
RedSoxFan calls (75)
hogansheros raises (300) to 300
LT330 folds.
taylorms folds.
JOEWOP folds.
CrazyTommyT raises (825) to 900
CrazyTommyT calls all-In.
RedSoxFan calls (225)
RedSoxFan calls all-In.
hogansheros calls (455)
hogansheros calls all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Ad ]
Creating Main Pot with $1080 with RedSoxFan
Creating Side Pot 1 with $910 with hogansheros
Creating Side Pot 2 with $145 with CrazyTommyT
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1080 | Side Pot 1: 910 | Side Pot 2: 145
Board: [ Th 6c 9s 5d Ad ]
LT330 balance 1020, lost 30 (folded)
taylorms balance 910, lost 30 (folded)
PacMan16 balance 580, didn't bet (folded)
LIgolfer631 balance 1125, didn't bet (folded)
JOEWOP balance 500, lost 30 (folded)
CrazyTommyT balance 145, bet 930, collected 145, lost -785 [ Ts 7s ] [ a pair of tens -- Ad,Ts,Th,9s,7s ]
RedSoxFan balance 0, lost 330 [ 8s Js ] [ high card ace -- Ad,Js,Th,9s,8s ]
mike19 balance 960, didn't bet (folded)
druw5050 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
hogansheros balance 1990, bet 785, collected 1990, net +1205 [ 6s 6h ] [ three of a kind, sixes -- Ad,Th,6s,6h,6c ]
RedSoxFan finished in tenth place.
--- Last ditch chance to try to get some money back. I had good pot odds to make the straight. CrazyTT is pretty crazy, going all-in against a big bet and all he had was top pair with lousy kicker.[/quote]
yup this hand is a gamble, prolly shouldn't play the j8 in the first place.
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