Finding a job in 4 months

[abt5]

So I have an internship coming up at a major insurance company. When the internship ends it'll be September (recruiting season?) I'm a graduate (weird I got an internship I know) and here are my stats

3.65 undergrad GPA in stats
3.5 grad GPA in stats
2 exams
1 internship
Pretty comfortable with interviews at this point (had like a billion phone/a few on-site interviews)

What are my chances???

[silverfox]

Need more info

[abt5]

Need more info

:squintyeyes: I....like...Dexter?

[urbansombrero]

A few questions for you:

1. If you do well in the internship, dont you think the company is going to keep you?

2. Are you actually interested in staying with the company that you will intern with?

3. You will have one internship, an ivy league degree in a hard subject, 3-4 exams passed and reasonable interviewing skills. How the hell can you not get a job? Hell the only way you will be unemployed in four months is if there is total collapse of the insurance industry. What are the odds of that happening?

[abt5]

A few questions for you:

1. If you do well in the internship, dont you think the company is going to keep you?

2. Are you actually interested in staying with the company that you will intern with?

3. You will have one internship, an ivy league degree in a hard subject, 3-4 exams passed and reasonable interviewing skills. How the hell can you not get a job? Hell the only way you will be unemployed in four months is if there is total collapse of the insurance industry. What are the odds of that happening?

Well I'm not sure about the 3-4 exams passed part. At most I'll have 3 if I pass the coming one. At the worst I'll have 2. Well who knows, the competition is tough out there. Well after the internship I want to go to the NE for personal reasons.

[silverfox]

Citizenship and flexibility (location and field) are key. If you say you want to do Life Insurance in NY and that's it, you'll obviously have a tough time.

[Scars]

Well I'm not sure about the 3-4 exams passed part. At most I'll have 3 if I pass the coming one. At the worst I'll have 2. Well who knows, the competition is tough out there. Well after the internship I want to go to the NE for personal reasons.

This is your problem.
The moment you limit yourself geographically, you start making it harder and harder to get a job. The more limited you are geographically, the harder it will be for you.

If you're getting interviews and not jobs, then you need to consider either your ability to interview or what you're saying in the interview. For example, just because you come off as a great guy and easy to talk to and convince the employer that you'd be an asset to the company... but you tell the employer that you want to work in the NE, you've created a scenario where they move on to the next candidate because the opening is in Chicago or whatever.

[abt5]

This is your problem.
The moment you limit yourself geographically, you start making it harder and harder to get a job. The more limited you are geographically, the harder it will be for you.

If you're getting interviews and not jobs, then you need to consider either your ability to interview or what you're saying in the interview. For example, just because you come off as a great guy and easy to talk to and convince the employer that you'd be an asset to the company... but you tell the employer that you want to work in the NE, you've created a scenario where they move on to the next candidate because the opening is in Chicago or whatever.

I thought most people struggle with relocation because they don't wanna leave their town for the big cities. but NYC/tristate area is already a big city and aren't most job opportunities there

[Scars]

I thought most people struggle with relocation because they don't wanna leave their town for the big cities. but NYC/tristate area is already a big city and aren't most job opportunities there

There are quite a few opportunities there, yes, but there are also a lot more people vying for the positions. That is why it's so much harder.

Most people struggle with relocation because they don't want to relocate for personal reasons. I'd bet that the reason each person has is somewhat unique to them. Personally, I'm from a small area, relocated for school, and will be relocating again for my job. I didn't really care at all where I went, but I preferred to avoid the NE. A few of my classmates are from the city my university is located, and nearly all of them want to stay in the city. The classmates that are from a small town, like me, already have jobs in other cities they will be going to upon graduation.

If you grow up in an area where you could work, most people seem to want to do that. If you don't grow up in an area where you could work, most people don't care where they end up. Just my observation, though.

Back to the original topic:
If you have a lot of opportunity in the NE, imagine how many opportunities you'd have if you just include the rest of the country. You could always end up going back to the NE in a few years anyway.

[silverfox]

I thought most people struggle with relocation because they don't wanna leave their town for the big cities. but NYC/tristate area is already a big city and aren't most job opportunities there

I looked on careerbuilder.com and monster.com. There are very few entry-level positions over there. i checked Snoopy's website, metlife.com. He's hiring zero entry-level actuarials. I've heard 3 letter company over there pretty much just hires their interns each year.

[johnny storm]

Define "Pretty comfortable". Because that sort of sounds like "I'm good at" except it's different. Or maybe just "I have no idea how good I am, but I don't get nervous like I used to". Or maybe it means something else.

Regardless, if you have a prior internship, and you have had two exams for a while, and you interviewed for a permanent position but only found an internship, then I'm guessing you aren't taht good at interviewing, which I'm guessing was the prior point about needing more info.

Also, don't really agree with Scars about limiting - I mean, obviously you're limiting yourself by not including the whole world, but the area you've "limited" yourself to is in fact one that has many many actuarial employers. Among people that are limited to a single area, it doesn't get much better than "Northeast". I assume NE isn't Nebraska.

[Maine-iac]

Any time you narrow your geographic horizons, you narrow your chances. It is true that if your horizon is the Northeast, this is much better than say, Miami. But it's still narrowing your shot.

And if it knocks out your current internship employer, that knocks out your best chance.

But it isn't hopeless, by any means. As others have said, a great deal will depend on your interview presentation.