Would you date a stripper?

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Just curious.

[Inconceivable]

Why is she stripping?

[FormLetter]

Yes.

[Inconceivable]

I mean is she an undercover cop in a sting operation? If so then yes.

Is she doing it to pay her way through med school? Then yes.

Is she really really hot? Yes.

Is she a woman with a pulse? Then yes again.

[silverfox]

Does she have the body of a goddess?
She poppin'? She rollin?
I'm N Luv w a Stripper.

[Inconceivable]

Is she a part time stripper? And does she do hair?

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

I mean is she an undercover cop in a sting operation? If so then yes.

Is she doing it to pay her way through med school? Then yes.

Is she really really hot? Yes.

Is she a woman with a pulse? Then yes again.

No.

Not med school, but school.

Yes.

I believe so, although I am not 100% sure since I haven't taken her pulse. She could be a zombie.





Also, no. I did not meet her at the strip club. I've actually never been there. To that club, I mean. I've been to plenty of strip clubs.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Does she have the body of a goddess?
She poppin'? She rollin?
I'm N Luv w a Stripper.

Yes.

I don't understand the next two questions.

Cool.

[asdfasdf]

I would, but only if she wasn't a VIP room stripper. The stripping in front of other men wouldn't bother me, but performing any sort of contact services would probably be too much for me.

[asdfasdf]

Oh, and if she's stripping, she should be able to afford to keep her car maintained, so she'd have that going for her.

[Keep It Real, Yo]

I don't understand the next two questions.



You might have a tough time carrying on a conversation with a stripper if you don't.

Perhaps get an urbandictionary app on your phone.

[ShebaPoe]

"date"? yes

date? Less likely

[Inconceivable]

Mate. Yes.
Date. Maybe.
Late. Probably.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Oh, and if she's stripping, she should be able to afford to keep her car maintained, so she'd have that going for her.

Yes! That's huge. In fact, she's looking to buy a new car. :tup:

"date"? yes

date? Less likely

Is the distinction here between "taking it seriously" and "not taking it seriously," or between "having sex with her" and "buying her dinner?:

lol




I will point out that right now she's just a friend. But I think I could date her, if I wanted. Just not sure if I want to.


I will point out that her job doesn't bother me at all. It's not possible to be mre secure than I am with the women I date. I don't have a jealous bone in my body. Or a judgemental one, for that matter.


It comes down to the "taking her home to mom" and "telling people at work" aspect. I'm not judgemental, but many people are.

Of course, after my ex, I am pretty sure my mother would be happy with just about anyone...:lol: (she wasn't her biggest fan)

[Inconceivable]

What is she going to school for?

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

What is she going to school for?

Nursing

[Sloop John B]

A girl I used to date became a stripper a bit after I broke up with her. That's probably the closest I'll come.

She was also crazy.

[BG5150]

Been there.

Done that.

It was cool.

We did NOT meet at the strip club.

[Travis]

I don't think I'd have a problem dating a stripper, as long as she wasn't doing drugs.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

She was also crazy.

I've been running into that a lot with non-strippers.

[Lucy]

Does he have HIV? Then no.

Do you have to tell people at work what your girl friend does for a living? I don't find it comes up all that often. Your parents will be more curious.

[LifeIsAPoissonProcess]

Nursing

I see strippers in nurse outfits all the time. Very common.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Does he have HIV? Then no.

Do you have to tell people at work what your girl friend does for a living? I don't find it comes up all that often. Your parents will be more curious.

Is that a stereotype that I am not aware of? Stripper having HIV.

In general, I wouldn't date anyone with HIV, so I am not sure if that's entirely relevant.



I will say this, I am always surprised at the questions people ask me at work about things like that. I am often caught off guard when they ask me questions I am not prepared to answer, and would prefer they didn't know. So, the answer is, maybe. I either have to tell them, or be prepared to lie.


And I am fairly certain when I was dating my ex, people asked me all the time what she did.

[Lucy]

It was meant as a joke. Male strippers are much more likely to have HIV than female strippers.

You can also prepare to be vague, rather than to lie outright. I doubt people will think less of your for dating a stripper. I knew a guy who bragged about that.

[Super Silver Haze]

What is she going to school for?
You know what would be funny? If she was going to school for stripping and her current stripper job was an internship.

Might depend on your sense of humor I guess.

[tometom]

I don't see a problem with dating a stripper if you like her. Some things previously mentioned would be a deal breaker: if she does drugs and if she is doing more than just stripping.

As far as your co-workers or anyone else, just say she's going to nursing school. So job = student, not stripping.

[mlschop]

As far as your co-workers or anyone else, just say she's going to nursing school. So job = student, not stripping.

:iatp:

Easy peasy.

[Vorian Atreides]

Just curious.
Is she really good at getting all of the varnish and wax off of the floor? I don't want to date a lazy slacker.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

...I doubt people will think less of your for dating a stripper. I knew a guy who bragged about that.

You might think differently if you worked at my company.

...
As far as your co-workers or anyone else, just say she's going to nursing school. So job = student, not stripping.

Excellent idea.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Is she really good at getting all of the varnish and wax off of the floor? I don't want to date a lazy slacker.

Why would she need to do that?

She works in candy, making sure candy canes aren't solid colored. It has nothing to do with floors.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Ok. Well, I just tricked her into asking me out. So, we'll see what happens.

[Vorian Atreides]

Stripers <> Stippers.

Just sayin'

[tometom]

The idea of dating a stripper crossed my mind the last time I went to a strip club. Similar to you, I'm not a jealous man and I'm not judgemental either (heck I dated my high school's "slut" because we got to talking one day and it turned out she was a pretty cool girl and the "slut" stuff turned out to be a rumor from when someone else asked her out and she refused).

Anyway, back to dating a stripper. I didn't see much problem with it except the drugs and her doing more in the back room. As long as she didn't do that, then I didn't really see the downside. I also thought about if I'd want my friends to go to that strip club. I decided yes on that, maybe you think that's weird. But 1) your friends get to see she is smoking hot and you are the one with her, 2) they will more than likely throw more money her way to try and make you jealous and 3) if your gf is a stripper it would probably turn her on to dance for your friends. I did't see a downside.

[Vorian Atreides]

And candy stripers work in hospitals.

Although I once knew a stripper whose name was Candy. She knew how to handle a buffer! :judge:

[Doctor]

not unless i wanted herpes and/or genital warts... the gift(s) that keep on giving

[Alto Reed on a Tenor Sax]

Absoltely. I would prefer it, actually.

[tometom]

not unless i wanted herpes and/or genital warts... the gift(s) that keep on givinggood point, I forgot to put STDs on my list of reasons not to date a stripper.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

not unless i wanted herpes and/or genital warts... the gift(s) that keep on giving

Again. Whether she has STDs and the fact that she is a stripper are different issues.


Also, I don't think the fact that she is a stripper means she is a slut, or in anyway more likely to have STDs. Especially not a stripper at a nice club, where they value girls that aren't skanky for their wealthier clientel.


I don't know she isn't a slut. But I am just saying that the fact that she is a stripper doesn't necessarily imply that.


When you consider the money involved, it's highly possible that a lot of girls are in it for the money, not for the attention.

[Ginormous76]

I will point out that her job doesn't bother me at all. It's not possible to be mre secure than I am with the women I date. I don't have a jealous bone in my body. Or a judgemental one, for that matter.


It comes down to the "taking her home to mom" and "telling people at work" aspect. I'm not judgemental, but many people are.

If you were actually secure enough, you wouldn't care what other people think. That is the true test of whether you should date. If you're secure enough with yourself to not care what other people think, then you will date her. If you aren't, then you won't. It's as simple as that.

[The Arbitrary]

Just cause she dances go-go
It don't make her a ho, NO!
Maxine put your dancing shoes on
We going to the disco
We gonna e-e-elope
To Me-e-exico
Called up my momma,
said I'm in love with a stipper, yo!

[ditkaworshipper]

I don't see what the big deal is. If she's hot, she's an entertainer. Not too much different from bartending imo.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

If you were actually secure enough, you wouldn't care what other people think. That is the true test of whether you should date. If you're secure enough with yourself to not care what other people think, then you will date her. If you aren't, then you won't. It's as simple as that.

lol. What a naive way too look at it. It has nothing to do with being secure with myself. If it looks to people that matter at work, it doesn't matter how secure I am, it can hurt me. Period.

I couldn't care less about my friends. It's my superiors that matter.


It's not because I'd be embarassed. It's politics. Nothing whatsoever to do with how secure I am.


Someday I may be independently wealthy, and will be able to do what I want. As long as my success depends on my image, it matters very much what people think of me. There's no way around it.

[The Drunken Actuary]

Does he have HIV? Then no.

Do you have to tell people at work what your girl friend does for a living? I don't find it comes up all that often. Your parents will be more curious.

If she's really a student or even if not really, that's a good enough answer.

[The Drunken Actuary]

Yes! That's huge. In fact, she's looking to buy a new car. :tup:



Is the distinction here between "taking it seriously" and "not taking it seriously," or between "having sex with her" and "buying her dinner?:

lol




I will point out that right now she's just a friend. But I think I could date her, if I wanted. Just not sure if I want to.


I will point out that her job doesn't bother me at all. It's not possible to be mre secure than I am with the women I date. I don't have a jealous bone in my body. Or a judgemental one, for that matter.


It comes down to the "taking her home to mom" and "telling people at work" aspect. I'm not judgemental, but many people are.

Of course, after my ex, I am pretty sure my mother would be happy with just about anyone...:lol: (she wasn't her biggest fan)So the whole point of this thread is about whether your mommy would approve of your girfriend? :lol: Tell your mom she's a student, since she really is.

[Agadefe]

Yes, definitely. The only aspect of it that might be a serious stereotype-leading-to-a-problem is the drug use. Even if she's not doing it, there is still more than likely a lot of it around her. Depending on your own tolerance towards that issue, it might come up as an issue in the relationship later on.

Ok. Well, I just tricked her into asking me out. So, we'll see what happens.

This is how all the best relationships start.

[Ginormous76]

lol. What a naive way too look at it. It has nothing to do with being secure with myself. If it looks to people that matter at work, it doesn't matter how secure I am, it can hurt me. Period.

I couldn't care less about my friends. It's my superiors that matter.


It's not because I'd be embarassed. It's politics. Nothing whatsoever to do with how secure I am.


Someday I may be independently wealthy, and will be able to do what I want. As long as my success depends on my image, it matters very much what people think of me. There's no way around it.

Then you tell them she's a nursing student. You're sure forgetful.

[Chillax]

All of the strippers that I have met socially were obviously strippers... In that, my friends brought them around because they were dating them or whatever, and she'd walk out of the room and everyone would say "Is she a stripper?" I guess what I'm saying is if she doesn't stand out as the stripper "type", it doesn't matter. If she is trashy, she makes you look trashy.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Then you tell them she's a nursing student. You're sure forgetful.

Lol.

That's the plan.

[Deano]

So, you are now a stripper's boyfriend.

Do you have a run-down Firebird?

Are you unemployed?

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

All of the strippers that I have met socially were obviously strippers... In that, my friends brought them around because they were dating them or whatever, and she'd walk out of the room and everyone would say "Is she a stripper?" I guess what I'm saying is if she doesn't stand out as the stripper "type", it doesn't matter. If she is trashy, she makes you look trashy.

That's a very good point.

[Agadefe]

All of the strippers that I have met socially were obviously strippers... In that, my friends brought them around because they were dating them or whatever, and she'd walk out of the room and everyone would say "Is she a stripper?" I guess what I'm saying is if she doesn't stand out as the stripper "type", it doesn't matter. If she is trashy, she makes you look trashy.

You can say the same thing about actuaries. Although our walk out of the room is a lot shorter since we were already standing in the corner right next to the door.

[The Arbitrary]

You can say the same thing about actuaries. Although our walk out of the room is a lot shorter since we were already standing in the corner right next to the door.
:rimshot:

[ditkaworshipper]

All of the strippers that I have met socially were obviously strippers... In that, my friends brought them around because they were dating them or whatever, and she'd walk out of the room and everyone would say "Is she a stripper?" I guess what I'm saying is if she doesn't stand out as the stripper "type", it doesn't matter. If she is trashy, she makes you look trashy.

My friends wouldn't care. They would just give me a lot of shit. Now, for bringing someone to a work function or family, there's ways to find out if they clean up good or not before doing that.

[vividox]

I'm inclined to say yes. You know, if I weren't married, she was hot, she didn't do drugs, she never sexed patrons, etc.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

I'm inclined to say yes. You know, if I weren't married, she was hot, she didn't do drugs, she never sexed patrons, etc.


Of course, as is the usualy procedure that I go through with the girls I date, she will be required to fill out a questionare with these questions on them.

So I will have this information soon, so I can make a better informed decision.

[Eddie]

All of the strippers that I have met socially were obviously strippers... In that, my friends brought them around because they were dating them or whatever, and she'd walk out of the room and everyone would say "Is she a stripper?" I guess what I'm saying is if she doesn't stand out as the stripper "type", it doesn't matter. If she is trashy, she makes you look trashy.

:iatp:

You can generally tell who the strippers are even when they are off duty.

[Eddie]

I'm inclined to say yes. You know, if I weren't married, she was hot, she didn't do drugs, she never sexed patrons, etc.

He said she was a stripper so she probably fails on at least one of those last two. Hell, most strippers fuk in exchange for drugs...

[jalapeno29]

i already have dated a stripper. it was fun.

[notreallyme]

I do date a stripper :shrug:

[ShebaPoe]

Is the distinction here between "taking it seriously" and "not taking it seriously," or between "having sex with her" and "buying her dinner?:

I will point out that right now she's just a friend. But I think I could date her, if I wanted. Just not sure if I want to.

I will point out that her job doesn't bother me at all. It's not possible to be mre secure than I am with the women I date. I don't have a jealous bone in my body. Or a judgemental one, for that matter.

It comes down to the "taking her home to mom" and "telling people at work" aspect. I'm not judgemental, but many people are.

Of course, after my ex, I am pretty sure my mother would be happy with just about anyone...:lol: (she wasn't her biggest fan)

Jealousy or judgmental is not even an issue in this thread. If those things were issues for you, you wouldn't be asking these questions.

I answered the way I did because I would gladly date a stripper. You'll find, if you haven't already, that most strippers are very personable, extremely outgoing, fun in almost all social situations, and fit in almost anywhere. If you take her to a work function, there's a pretty good chance she will so outshine the other wives and girlfriends that you'll find yourself alienated; in short, the opposite of the problem you thought you'd have.

Depending on the city and club, you may find her to be very well informed about society events, and know her way around a wine list, an exotic restaurant menu, and show you some really awesome weekend getaways you can do together. It'd be difficult to find a better female companion for most activities than many strippers.

What's not to like?

Well, here's the thing. Most strippers got tp be strippers because their life experiences which produced a value system that is incompatible with anything more than a superficial relationship. (going out, partying, traveling, sex until your penis breaks...you get the idea..all good things in the proper context) The path to becoming a stripper rarely includes the 18 year old college kid saying, "The typical starting salary for a business major from Ohio State is $42,000. But if I use my student loan money for implants, I can make $2500 a week. Let me go make an appointment. Mom, I'm dropping out..."

No..it's usually a different path to the stripper stage, and that path is often littered with demons that are not conducive to relationships. That's what I'd be wary of.

[vividox]

He said she was a stripper so she probably fails on at least one of those last two. Hell, most strippers fuk in exchange for drugs...

Maybe the strippers at the junk club down the street, not the classy strippers at the place with a $100 cover charge.

[The Drunken Actuary]

Jealousy or judgmental is not even an issue in this thread. If those things were issues for you, you wouldn't be asking these questions.

I answered the way I did because I would gladly date a stripper. You'll find, if you haven't already, that most strippers are very personable, extremely outgoing, fun in almost all social situations, and fit in almost anywhere. If you take her to a work function, there's a pretty good chance she will so outshine the other wives and girlfriends that you'll find yourself alienated; in short, the opposite of the problem you thought you'd have.

Depending on the city and club, you may find her to be very well informed about society events, and know her way around a wine list, an exotic restaurant menu, and show you some really awesome weekend getaways you can do together. It'd be difficult to find a better female companion for most activities than many strippers.

What's not to like?

Well, here's the thing. Most strippers got tp be strippers because their life experiences which produced a value system that is incompatible with anything more than a superficial relationship. (going out, partying, traveling, sex until your penis breaks...you get the idea..all good things in the proper context) The path to becoming a stripper rarely includes the 18 year old college kid saying, "The typical starting salary for a business major from Ohio State is $42,000. But if I use my student loan money for implants, I can make $2500 a week. Let me go make an appointment. Mom, I'm dropping out..."

No..it's usually a different path to the stripper stage, and that path is often littered with demons that are not conducive to relationships. That's what I'd be wary of.

:iatp:

[The Drunken Actuary]

Maybe the strippers at the junk club down the street, not the classy strippers at the place with a $100 cover charge.

Doubtful.

[vividox]

"The typical starting salary for a business major from Ohio State is $42,000. But if I use my student loan money for implants, I can make $2500 a week. Let me go make an appointment. Mom, I'm dropping out..."

Eff that. Fakes tits are gross. I've come to realize that girls who feel they need breast implants are idiots. There are relatively few guys who prefer fake over real.

[Lucy]

I suspect that Sheba knows strippers.

[vividox]

Doubtful.

Let me dream?

I've never been in a strip club before, so I have 0 clue what I'm talking about here.

[Hooters Girl]

Let me dream?

I've never been in a strip club before, so I have 0 clue what I'm talking about here.
Dream on.

[vividox]

Dream on.

Hooters Girl = Steven Tyler?

I know, I know, HFBB.

[Hooters Girl]

Eff that. Fakes tits are gross. I've come to realize that girls who feel they need breast implants are idiots. There are relatively few guys who prefer fake over real.

I've known sever hooters girls to get breast implants. They saw significant increases in their tips afterwards. Don't be so judgemental.

[matamagato]

shes not going to be a stripper forever is she?

[Loner]

One of my best friends was in a relationship with a (female) stripper for over a year. I got to know her and one of her friends, though not super well. These two were among the more level headed about the whole enterprise, and didn't do drugs. But my takeaway from the conversations with them was that the women who strip by and large tend to have issues: many of them, even the ones who start out just being mercenary about the whole thing, get very disillusioned with the work and take drugs to get through it. They also tend not to have a game plan to get out. Male strippers tend to do the job for a couple of years to pay for school/save for a house/etc and then get a "regular job" after. The women tend to find themselves stuck, partly because some of them are looking to land a patron who will take them away from all this, partly because of the issues Sheba mentions.
Also, if they are making real money, they are doing things that most guys would not be okay with their girlfriends doing. "No sex in the champagne room" is a myth that enables them to fleece the one-time patrons for a lot of money. Now, they may all have different limitations, but the ones who truly don't do anything more than a lap dance really don't make much money. Also, the high end ones tend to be fastidious about using protection, so in terms of risk, I guess you're at the level of swingers. If you think that's something you can live with, go ahead.
Myself, I think I'd have to know that there was some sort of thought being given to how long the gig would last and what they'd be doing after, and I'd have some restrictions on what they actually did with clients, and I'd have to feel reasonably comfortable they weren't lying to me about that. So it would be tough. But I have met strippers who I thought I would consider asking out.

[The Drunken Actuary]

I've known sever hooters girls to get breast implants. They saw significant increases in their tips afterwards. Don't be so judgemental.

:iatp:

The bigger the rack, the bigger the tip.

[win diesel]

Eff that. Fakes tits are gross. I've come to realize that girls who feel they need breast implants are idiots. There are relatively few guys who prefer fake over real.

:wave:

[Vorian Atreides]

:iatp:

The bigger the rack, the bigger the tip.
No pun intended . . . right? ;-)

[Agadefe]

Eff that. Fakes tits are gross. I've come to realize that girls who feel they need breast implants are idiots. There are relatively few guys who prefer fake over real.

I'd say unnecessary, not gross.

I've never cared if they're fake or real.

[vividox]

I'd say unnecessary, not gross.

Okay, I'd agree with that. Gross is going overboard with it.

[Agadefe]

Jealousy or judgmental is not even an issue in this thread. If those things were issues for you, you wouldn't be asking these questions.

I answered the way I did because I would gladly date a stripper. You'll find, if you haven't already, that most strippers are very personable, extremely outgoing, fun in almost all social situations, and fit in almost anywhere. If you take her to a work function, there's a pretty good chance she will so outshine the other wives and girlfriends that you'll find yourself alienated; in short, the opposite of the problem you thought you'd have.

Depending on the city and club, you may find her to be very well informed about society events, and know her way around a wine list, an exotic restaurant menu, and show you some really awesome weekend getaways you can do together. It'd be difficult to find a better female companion for most activities than many strippers.

What's not to like?

Well, here's the thing. Most strippers got tp be strippers because their life experiences which produced a value system that is incompatible with anything more than a superficial relationship. (going out, partying, traveling, sex until your penis breaks...you get the idea..all good things in the proper context) The path to becoming a stripper rarely includes the 18 year old college kid saying, "The typical starting salary for a business major from Ohio State is $42,000. But if I use my student loan money for implants, I can make $2500 a week. Let me go make an appointment. Mom, I'm dropping out..."

No..it's usually a different path to the stripper stage, and that path is often littered with demons that are not conducive to relationships. That's what I'd be wary of.

This is well said, but just like religious people, blacks, women, and people that end their sentences with prepositions, I just don't like them they are all different.

What the general stereotype of strippers is, it doesn't mean that N2N's stripper is like this. He'd have to judge for himself. However, if she doesn't exhibit these other "relationship-disencouraging" personality traits, there's no reason to not date her "just because" she's a stripper. imo.

[ditkaworshipper]

:wave:
Really? Are you saying you don't like a flat chest or you would prefer an enhanced D over natural C? Enhanced D over natural D?

[ShebaPoe]

This is well said, but just like religious people, blacks, women, and people that end their sentences with prepositions, I just don't like them they are all different.

What the general stereotype of strippers is, it doesn't mean that N2N's stripper is like this. He'd have to judge for himself. However, if she doesn't exhibit these other "relationship-disencouraging" personality traits, there's no reason to not date her "just because" she's a stripper. imo.

no shit sherlock.

[win diesel]

Really? Are you saying you don't like a flat chest or you would prefer an enhanced D over natural C? Enhanced D over natural D?

The bigger and rounder the better imo

[Guerilla poster]

Eff that. Fakes tits are gross. I've come to realize that girls who feel they need breast implants are idiots. There are relatively few guys who prefer fake over real.


but the ones that do, tip better

[win diesel]

N2NB, do it simply for the stories and humor

I have hung out with a few. One time one of them told me that some other stripper pee'd in her bag so she beat her with a telephone (landline) and spent a night in jail. And she was telling the story like it was all completely normal.

[asdfasdf]

lol. What a naive way too look at it. It has nothing to do with being secure with myself. If it looks to people that matter at work, it doesn't matter how secure I am, it can hurt me. Period.

I couldn't care less about my friends. It's my superiors that matter.


It's not because I'd be embarassed. It's politics. Nothing whatsoever to do with how secure I am.


Someday I may be independently wealthy, and will be able to do what I want. As long as my success depends on my image, it matters very much what people think of me. There's no way around it.

http://www.freewebs.com/ddxpatrick/photos/modeltrains/donkey.jpg

[ditkaworshipper]

The bigger and rounder the better imo
OK, so you don't actually prefer enhanced over natural, you just don't care how they got big. Got it.
http://www.freewebs.com/ddxpatrick/photos/modeltrains/donkey.jpg
:lol: I'm so glad I contributed something to the AO that keeps on giving.

[ORLYLOL]

Never

[Agadefe]

no shit sherlock.

I'm a helper.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Jealousy or judgmental is not even an issue in this thread. If those things were issues for you, you wouldn't be asking these questions.

I answered the way I did because I would gladly date a stripper. You'll find, if you haven't already, that most strippers are very personable, extremely outgoing, fun in almost all social situations, and fit in almost anywhere. If you take her to a work function, there's a pretty good chance she will so outshine the other wives and girlfriends that you'll find yourself alienated; in short, the opposite of the problem you thought you'd have.

Depending on the city and club, you may find her to be very well informed about society events, and know her way around a wine list, an exotic restaurant menu, and show you some really awesome weekend getaways you can do together. It'd be difficult to find a better female companion for most activities than many strippers.

What's not to like?

Well, here's the thing. Most strippers got tp be strippers because their life experiences which produced a value system that is incompatible with anything more than a superficial relationship. (going out, partying, traveling, sex until your penis breaks...you get the idea..all good things in the proper context) The path to becoming a stripper rarely includes the 18 year old college kid saying, "The typical starting salary for a business major from Ohio State is $42,000. But if I use my student loan money for implants, I can make $2500 a week. Let me go make an appointment. Mom, I'm dropping out..."

No..it's usually a different path to the stripper stage, and that path is often littered with demons that are not conducive to relationships. That's what I'd be wary of.

I see. I will definitely be keeping that in mind.

My initial assessment of this girl,

"I was too dumb to take school seriously, in high school, so college wasn't an option. I was hot, and I thought it would be good money, so I started stripping when I turned 18.

A few years later, after not stripping for a while, I decided I want to do something else with my life, and go into nursing. I'm still hot and the money is too good to pass up, if I am going to be going to school, so I'll start dancing again."


She seems pretty down to Earth, as you mentioned. I haven't gotten an idea of whether or not she's a partier. She no doubt was, at one time, however.

I officially have a date with her, so I'll hopefully get a better sense of her soon. I will be looking out for the stuff you mentioned.



Eff that. Fakes tits are gross. I've come to realize that girls who feel they need breast implants are idiots. There are relatively few guys who prefer fake over real.


You've obviously never been with a girl who's had a couple of kids.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

N2NB, do it simply for the stories and humor

I have hung out with a few. One time one of them told me that some other stripper pee'd in her bag so she beat her with a telephone (landline) and spent a night in jail. And she was telling the story like it was all completely normal.

You got it!

[The Arbitrary]

Anyone post a TTIWWP yet?

[M4 Carbine]

i went out with a couple, but i met them at the club, so not the same situation as the OP

first girl i met when i was celebrating an exam pass. after a few dances she asked what i was doing the next day so i asked her out and we exchanged numbers. then we went out when she came back to town a few times

second one i went out with once a couple weeks ago

both are hot (duh), very chill (as others have said) and 10 years younger than myself (awesome)

turns out the two have known each other since they were kids

i have no regrets, so i echo the recommendations to go for it, nee-2-no

[Vorian Atreides]

TTIWWP

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

both are hot (duh), very chill (as others have said) and 10 years younger than myself (awesome)

turns out the two have known each other since they were kids

i have no regrets, so i echo the recommendations to go for it, nee-2-no

Yeah. I forgot to mention, she's 7 years younger than me :tup:

[Inconceivable]

Dude just hit that and date her. Anyone asks what she does, she's a student. Case closed. When you went to school and had a part time job you weren't a "ZJ giver" you were an act sci college student. End thread.

[BG5150]

The "stripper" I dated ("dancer" was the term she preferred) was basically just a really attractive woman. She wasn't streotypical in any way. She didn't dress trashy. She wasn't a boozer or a druggie (though she/we did both with restraint).

She worked in a medium-level kind of club I'll call it. It wasn't a dive, but neither was it a velvet-rope VIP-table place. She could dance seductively or slutty--she could tell what the guy wanted. She would allow guys to linger when tipping her, but never too long. Made good money--$1,000 on a good Saturday night, a hundred or two on a slow Wednesday.

When I met her at a friend's party, you'd never in a million years think that was what she did for a living. She has a degree in Psychology from Hunter College with a minor in Theatre. She was having trouble finding a job after college, and the girl down the hall from her apartment was dancing and got her into it. She like the hours. Liked dancing. And, truth be told, she liked the attention and the temporary power she had over these men.

The sex was terrific. The conversation was terrific. The deal breaker for me was that she is an atheist. Just wasn't going to go anywhere.

We still correspond. She is happily married with two wonderful children and a good husband. She no longer dances, but works with an Employment Recruiter. (And her 38-yr old body isn't quite the moneymaker her 26-yr old body was.

(Oh, and natural 36c's, BTW)

[Gary Wright]

Nursing

Maybe if you date her, you could study that, too.

[Gary Wright]

She has a degree in Psychology from Hunter College with a minor in Theatre. She was having trouble finding a job ..

Second sentence isn't really necessary after the first.

[Guerilla poster]

Why don't you just have sex with her until you get tired of her and then move on. Why is it so complicated?

[Agadefe]

Why don't you just have sex with her until you get tired of her and then move on. Why is it so complicated?

Or she gets tired of you

[Inconceivable]

Or she gets tired of you

Or till we get tired of all the stories, pics and video you will be constantly posting/PMing to us.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Why don't you just have sex with her until you get tired of her and then move on. Why is it so complicated?

Well. I'm sort of a pu$$y. I only have meaningless sex with girls, if it's meaninless to them too. I don't like to lead girls on to get laid.

And this is turning out to be much more of a traditional courtship kind of thing. Not a pure sex thing. That isn't to say it won't turn into a pure sex thing, and if that's where it goes, I am not gonna stop it. But it's too early to tell.


The fact that I agreed to make her dinner for our date sort of says something about it, though.

lol. So, yeah. I agreed to cook her dinner. That's not as bad as it sounds. That's not how I played it. Like I said, I tricked her into asking me out. But it settled on me making her dinner.

Oh, well. I am a decent cook.

[Guerilla poster]

Well. I'm sort of a pu$$y. I only have meaningless sex with girls, if it's meaninless to them too. I don't like to lead girls on to get laid.

There is a fine line obviously, there are different phases of meaningless. I assume you have had a relationship with a woman, that was not meaningless but not serious.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

There is a fine line obviously, there are different phases of meaningless. I assume you have had a relationship with a woman, that was not meaningless but not serious.

Yeah. I have. And if that's how this goes, that's how it goes.

But I am not going to make that decision ahead of time. I can't say right now that I'll jus bang her and leave her. If she really starts to like me, and it is clear that it's not meaningless to her, I'll have to make a decision. Especially if it's before we have sex.

[win diesel]

This reminds me of some Chris Rock bit about how strippers are always saying they are going back to school but it's never true.

"You don't see anyone in school with the clear shoes. There are no high heels in Biology!"

[ditkaworshipper]

Man, it's got to be a vicious cycle for strippers on the relationship scene.

[hellomath]

Do you have to tell people at work what your girl friend does for a living? I don't find it comes up all that often. Your parents will be more curious.

The correct answer is "nursing" student

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

This reminds me of some Chris Rock bit about how strippers are always saying they are going back to school but it's never true.

"You don't see anyone in school with the clear shoes. There are no high heels in Biology!"

Fo real, though.

Nurses can make decent money, but better than a hot stripper at a decent club? probably not.

It's tough to willingly make less money than you know you could make. Then, before they know it, it's too late. They're old and saggy, and getting work in dive clubs, begging drunk college kids to give them lap dances. (I've been that drunk college kid many times, although I've never given in)


I mean, there are a lot of things I would do for a living that I might enjoy more, like being that guy that drives around the golf ball picker, but I wouldn't make as much money, so I don't even consider it.

By that logic, why would a stripper choose to do anything but strip, as long as she's making good money?

[notreallyme]

This reminds me of some Chris Rock bit about how strippers are always saying they are going back to school but it's never true.

"You don't see anyone in school with the clear shoes. There are no high heels in Biology!"

-- I find it's almost never true when you listen to anyone who is 25+ that they are going back to school, dancers seem to be about the norm.
* (dancers may have a even higher percentage of actually going back once they decide they can't do what they are doing forever.)

I know one girl who danced that is now a elementary school teacher in AZ, just graduated last year.

It's a lot like knowing a bartender. You don't know they finished school and went to get a real job, you don't even really notice they aren't around anymore unless they are a friend.

Many of the responses in this thread are the funny.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

-- I find it's almost never true when you listen to anyone who is 25+ that they are going back to school, dancers seem to be about the norm.
* (dancers may have a even higher percentage of actually going back once they decide they can't do what they are doing forever.)

I know one girl who danced that is now a elementary school teacher in AZ, just graduated last year.

It's a lot like knowing a bartender. You don't know they finished school and went to get a real job, you don't even really notice they aren't around anymore unless they are a friend.

Many of the responses in this thread are the funny.

I have a friend that finished school with a finance degree that his father, who is very successful, paid for. Then got a job as a bartender, because that's what he really wanted to do.

[notreallyme]

By that logic, why would a stripper choose to do anything but strip, as long as she's making good money?

They don't make NEAR the money they used to.

I don't know much outside Minnesota (and a little about Iowa and some places where some girls travel to) but I don't know ANY dancers making anywhere near the numbers being thrown around here.
They will get an occasional $2,000 night but they also have nights where they make $0 (in some cases less if there is a house fee).

When is the last time anyone here has been to a strip club that it's packed like the movies and people are throwing money around? (Spearmint Rhino was like that in Vegas when I was there I guess, but outside that :shake: )

I would say the service industry jobs got hit the worst in the last X years.

- People generally can't expense big tips cause they thought the bartender was flirting with them.
- The 'fast money' jobs are gone. Generally was people in mortgages. 25 year olds who went from making $40K to $250K are very good for cute girls in the service industry.

I know people who made $500+ bartending in a night that now make $100 or less.

[notreallyme]

I have a friend that finished school with a finance degree that his father, who is very successful, paid for. Then got a job as a bartender, because that's what he really wanted to do.

I miss bartending sometimes.

[douglan]

They will get an occasional $2,000 night but they also have nights where they make $0 (in some cases less if there is a house fee).


house fee?

[notreallyme]

house fee?

In many (most) places the girls pay the house to 'rent' the stage for the night. If they make less than that they can go home negative.

I know one place in Mpls (nicer one) is:
$100 if you are there by 7 and goes up $20 each hour after that. Show up at 10 you owe $160.

** It goes up because if the girls could they would work midnight or 1am to close and no one would be there at 7.

Make less than that and you can go home negative.

[Woodrow]

Then, before they know it, it's too late. They're old and saggy, and getting work in dive clubs, begging drunk college kids to give them lap dances. (I've been that drunk college kid many times, although I've never given in)

You're missing out.

I never go for the 18 year olds, they think they don't have to work for their money (and I guess they are right).

An older dancer? She knows she has to earn that $20.

[douglan]

In many (most) places the girls pay the house to 'rent' the stage for the night. If they make less than that they can go home negative.

I know one place in Mpls (nicer one) is:
$100 if you are there by 7 and goes up $20 each hour after that. Show up at 10 you owe $160.

** It goes up because if the girls could they would work midnight or 1am to close and no one would be there at 7.

Make less than that and you can go home negative.

[Johnny Carson]

I did not know that!

[/JC]

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

You're missing out.

I never go for the 18 year olds, they think they don't have to work for their money (and I guess they are right).

An older dancer? She knows she has to earn that $20.

Well, I have never gotten a lap dance at a strip club at all. So, it;s not like I am being choosey.

[RazorGuns]

I coudlh't care about strip clubs now. I get women to dance for me at home for free.

FTW

r

[ShebaPoe]

[Johnny Carson]

I did not know that!

[/JC]

In the industry, it's usually called a "bar fine". You might know that term.

[remilard]

Nurses can make decent money, but better than a hot stripper at a decent club? probably not.


This has been covered but the whole "strippers make a ton of money" thing is a myth.

Just use some simple deductive logic. What kind of car does she drive? What kind of clothes does she wear? Where does she live?

If she really makes hundreds to thousands of dollars a day, she should be able to pay for school and still have the answers be luxury/sports, designer, upper middle class neighborhood.

If you are observing that she doesn't live like she makes $3000 a week, she probably isn't making $3000 a week.

My answer to the question is that hypothetically (not married) I wouldn't turn down someone over being a stripper (with the normal caveats about prostitution or heavy drug use I apply to non-strippers as well) but it would definitely be a factor if things started getting serious.

[The Drunken Actuary]

This has been covered but the whole "strippers make a ton of money" thing is a myth.

Just use some simple deductive logic. What kind of car does she drive? What kind of clothes does she wear? Where does she live?

If she really makes hundreds to thousands of dollars a day, she should be able to pay for school and still have the answers be luxury/sports, designer, upper middle class neighborhood.

If you are observing that she doesn't live like she makes $3000 a week, she probably isn't making $3000 a week.

My answer to the question is that hypothetically (not married) I wouldn't turn down someone over being a stripper (with the normal caveats about prostitution or heavy drug use I apply to non-strippers as well) but it would definitely be a factor if things started getting serious.
Again with the money from you...

[oedipus rex]

no. trashy and tacky are turnoffs for me.

[remilard]

Again with the money from you...

Money, beer, dishwashers and Obama.

[The Drunken Actuary]

Money, beer, dishwashers and Obama.
:tup:

[Loner]

This has been covered but the whole "strippers make a ton of money" thing is a myth.

Just use some simple deductive logic. What kind of car does she drive? What kind of clothes does she wear? Where does she live?

If she really makes hundreds to thousands of dollars a day, she should be able to pay for school and still have the answers be luxury/sports, designer, upper middle class neighborhood.

If you are observing that she doesn't live like she makes $3000 a week, she probably isn't making $3000 a week.

My answer to the question is that hypothetically (not married) I wouldn't turn down someone over being a stripper (with the normal caveats about prostitution or heavy drug use I apply to non-strippers as well) but it would definitely be a factor if things started getting serious.

The stripper I knew was paying a mortgage on a $600,000 house by herself, supporting her mother and brother, and paying her daughter's out of state tuition at the University of Hawaii. And she was 36/37 at the time(she wasn't white, which helps since the aging is less apparent). Of course this was prior to the real estate crash. Since then I imagine her life has gone to hell as that was possibly an interest only ARM.

Strippers CAN make a ton of money if they so choose. But in reality what they tend to do is work until they've covered their expenses for the month and take the rest of the month off. This goes back to what Sheba was saying about them not really having good habits.

[Keep It Real, Yo]

While in college I knew a girl on the basketball team that was a stripper. Her hometown was 400 miles away and anytime she could get away for the weekend she'd go home. She was from the ghetto but had nicer clothes and stuff than everyone else, and had her own car. Pretty good for an 18 year old freshman.

It might've helped that her real name was Crystal.

[Keep It Real, Yo]

Also, funny about actuaries posting on the internet on a Saturday night as to whether or not they would date a stripper. AO rules!

[ShebaPoe]

Internet porn is the biggest contributor to the decline in stripper incomes.

[Sloop John B]

Internet porn is the biggest contributor to the decline in stripper incomes.

Makes for a really awkward bachelor party.

[Ozzman]

I've been running into that a lot with women.

FYP

Does she have the body of a goddess?
She poppin'? She rollin?
I'm N Luv w a Stripper.

I lol'd. It's been years since I've heard that song.

[ElDucky]

TTIstillWWP

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

This has been covered but the whole "strippers make a ton of money" thing is a myth.

Just use some simple deductive logic. What kind of car does she drive? What kind of clothes does she wear? Where does she live?

If she really makes hundreds to thousands of dollars a day, she should be able to pay for school and still have the answers be luxury/sports, designer, upper middle class neighborhood.

If you are observing that she doesn't live like she makes $3000 a week, she probably isn't making $3000 a week.

My answer to the question is that hypothetically (not married) I wouldn't turn down someone over being a stripper (with the normal caveats about prostitution or heavy drug use I apply to non-strippers as well) but it would definitely be a factor if things started getting serious.

She's not ballin', no.

But I think she's only working one day a week.

Also, she just started dancing again, and plans to quit in July. We'll see.

But she broke up with a boyfriend and moved in with a friend. So she started dancing again to get back on her feet.

This is new info that I just got from talking to her.

no. trashy and tacky are turnoffs for me.

Yeah. They are turn-offs.

But they are dwarfed by the turn-on-ness of being super hot.

And, yes, I know not all strippers are hot. But this one is.

[Loner]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NTaWhLUVY20/SX_p9H3hJII/AAAAAAAACzA/KfmkeAaySfU/s400/oldest_male_stripper-gallery-3.jpg

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NTaWhLUVY20/SX_p9H3hJII/AAAAAAAACzA/KfmkeAaySfU/s400/oldest_male_stripper-gallery-3.jpg

:lol:

Love the socks

[ElDucky]

I think N2N should become a stripper.

[M4 Carbine]

TTIstillWWP

im not going 2 post pix of the actual chicks but this will give u an idea


http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie-gallery/albums/userpics//poster_NotoriousBettiePagePoster.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nouvdM-3bW4/TX42RpywnTI/AAAAAAAAV2c/xjoBu1eX4fY/s1600/Morgane%2BDubled%2Bfrench%2Bmodel.jpg

[campbell]

I think N2N should become a stripper.

TT=r=IWWP

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

I think N2N should become a stripper.

I consider it, at one time, actually.

Most male strippers aren't just strippers, though. You're generally expected to perform other services.

Not that that would have bothered me that much, I guess.

I'm also kinda short. Not sure if that would have mattered.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

TT=r=IWWP

I forget what that acronym means.

This Thread Is Worthless Without Pictures?

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Ok. Key individuals have received pictures. They can chime in, if they wish.

[ditkaworshipper]

Can I be a key individual please?

[campbell]

I forget what that acronym means.

This Thread Is Worthless Without Pictures?

This thread =really= is worthless without pics.

Cannot comment on whether you should become a stripper w/o them, you know.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Can I be a key individual please?

pm me a phone number

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

This thread =really= is worthless without pics.

Cannot comment on whether you should become a stripper w/o them, you know.

If only...

[Loner]

This thread =really= is worthless without pics.

Cannot comment on whether you should become a stripper w/o them, you know.

Exactly.

One of our departed male posters did work as a stripper in college.

[Loner]

I consider it, at one time, actually.

Most male strippers aren't just strippers, though. You're generally expected to perform other services.

Not that that would have bothered me that much, I guess.

I'm also kinda short. Not sure if that would have mattered.

Um, most STRIPPERS aren't just strippers. But what you have to get over being a male stripper is that you make more money stripping for men.

[campbell]

Exactly.

One of our departed male posters did work as a stripper in college.

TCA?

[campbell]

Um, most STRIPPERS aren't just strippers. But what you have to get over being a male stripper is that you make more money stripping for men.

Yeah, that's true whether you're male or female.

Sorry. Chicks are cheap.

[WasabiPain]

I consider it, at one time, actually.

Most male strippers aren't just strippers, though. You're generally expected to perform other services.

Not that that would have bothered me that much, I guess.

I'm also kinda short. Not sure if that would have mattered.


Um, most STRIPPERS aren't just strippers. But what you have to get over being a male stripper is that you make more money stripping for men.
Yeah, that's true whether you're male or female.

Sorry. Chicks are cheap.

Are you sure that you are not bothered, Nee-2-No-Bases?

[ditkaworshipper]

So, nee-2-no sent me a pic, and I just got done masturbating looking around other threads. Assuming the pic is legit, :h5: Definitely scores well on every scale I've seen on the AO. Well done, sir.

[ElDucky]

Well then, TTIWWP

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Um, most STRIPPERS aren't just strippers. But what you have to get over being a male stripper is that you make more money stripping for men.

Are you sure that you are not bothered, Nee-2-No-Bases?


Meh. When I considered it, it was because I actually had the opportunity. And it wasn't a gig stripping for men. It was a private party sort of deal, not a club. (not that that matters, just sayin')

Don't get me wrong, I have NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that the real money is in stripping for men, but that's not what this would have been (or at least it didn't have to be).


So, nee-2-no sent me a pic, and I just got done masturbating looking around other threads. Assuming the pic is legit, :h5: Definitely scores well on every scale I've seen on the AO. Well done, sir.


I have more, if you would like further confirmation :tup:

[Loner]

Meh. When I considered it, it was because I actually had the opportunity. And it wasn't a gig stripping for men. It was a private party sort of deal, not a club. (not that that matters, just sayin')

Don't get me wrong, I have NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that the real money is in stripping for men, but that's not what this would have been (or at least it didn't have to be).

Yes, you might have started out that way, then the other boys would have told you, "Hey I know these rich old fags who pay 3 times as much and only grope you a little because they're so old they can't get it up anyway..."



I have more, if you would like further confirmation :tup:

How about some that would confirm you had an opportunity to enter that line of work? ;)

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

How about some that would confirm you had an opportunity to enter that line of work? ;)

PM me a phone number or an email...lol

Oddly enough, I find it less gay of me to send you a picture of myself than another straight guy. I guess that makes sense, though, right?

[WasabiPain]

So, nee-2-no sent me a pic, and I just got done masturbating looking around other threads. Assuming the pic is legit, :h5: Definitely scores well on every scale I've seen on the AO. Well done, sir.


I have more, if you would like further confirmation :tup:

Now, I am curious. :smoke:

[ditkaworshipper]

Yes, you might have started out that way, then the other boys would have told you, "Hey I know these rich old fags who pay 3 times as much and only grope you a little because they're so old they can't get it up anyway..."

How about some that would confirm you had an opportunity to enter that line of work? ;)
Just out of curiosity, exactly how much can one make stripping for old gay dudes nowadays?

[Loner]

Just out of curiosity, exactly how much can one make stripping for old gay dudes nowadays?

I'll need to see a pic. Nee-2-No, anywhere from $300 on a slow night to over $1000 on a busy one. ;)

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

I'll need to see a pic. Nee-2-No, anywhere from $300 on a slow night to over $1000 on a busy one. ;)

I'm in the wrong line of work :lol:

Of course, I could probably do both. Actuary by day, stripper by night/weekend...Double score!!!

[ElDucky]

I wouldn't not date a stripper.

[ditkaworshipper]

I'll need to see a pic. Nee-2-No, anywhere from $300 on a slow night to over $1000 on a busy one. ;)
Damn! I might need to find out how to get into this. Sounds like I could cover rent with just a couple nights a month.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Damn! I might need to find out how to get into this. Sounds like I could cover rent with just a couple nights a month.

If you look like me, anyway.

I am sure Loner would be happy to give you a salary range too, if you sent him a pic :lol:

He'll be the official AO male stripper talent scout

[Guerilla poster]

I'll need to see a pic. Nee-2-No, anywhere from $300 on a slow night to over $1000 on a busy one. ;)


For comparison, how much would other AO posters you have pictures of go for?

We need to establish a baseline.

[Loner]

Damn! I might need to find out how to get into this. Sounds like I could cover rent with just a couple nights a month.

Mind you, it's the lapdances where you make the money, not up on stage with people throwing bills at you. It does entail some willingness to grind on people, but you played rugby so you should have no problem with that. ;)

[ditkaworshipper]

Hm, sounds like I should send a pic to investigate value. I'm always open to career opportunities. Will casual wear work?

[Loner]

Hm, sounds like I should send a pic to investigate value. I'm always open to career opportunities. Will casual wear work?

Depends how casual...need to evaluate your body IYKWIM. ;)

[ditkaworshipper]

Nee-2-no, you sent him those pics? Well, Loner is some stranger on the internet, so he's got to be legit! Can we put attachments in pms even?

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Nee-2-no, you sent him those pics? Well, Loner is some stranger on the internet, so he's got to be legit! Can we put attachments in pms even?

Not sure what you mean by "those pics"?

I didn't send him the same pics I sent you...lol. I sent him pics of myself, not the stripper. And I have learned enough about Loner's character to trust him :)

If you can send pics over pm, I don't know how.

[ditkaworshipper]

OK, pics sent to Loner since he is the all purpose judge of male body on the AO.

[campbell]

....hmmm...


um.

hmmm.

[Loner]

Sorry, ditka, I have to give the edge to Nee-2-No here. You could still make money, just not as much as him. ;)

[Loner]

....hmmm...


um.

hmmm.

Hey, can I trade some pics for a seminar discount? ;)

(KIDDING!!!!)

[Chillax]

Sorry, ditka, I have to give the edge to Nee-2-No here. You could still make money, just not as much as him. ;)

:burn:

[campbell]

Hey, can I trade some pics for a seminar discount? ;)

(KIDDING!!!!)

Ah, I have no pricing power, alas.

Man. No leverage.

[and those who do have that power are prob not interested in pics of men.... damn! we need more diversity!]

[Loner]

:burn:


I was asked for an honest assessment, I gave one. N2N is better looking than most, so it's not an insult to say one would not do as well as he would. Sheba is more defined, but N2N is, well, just prettier. Ditka cleans up nice though.

[campbell]

dammit, i want the pics now.

[Chillax]

dammit, i want the pics now.

:iatp: :popcorn:

[Loner]

Sorry, I have given my word. They need to give permission to share images.

Perhaps I could crop out the faces and run an AO beauty pageant in surveys.

[Chillax]

Sorry, I have given my word. They need to give permission to share images.

Perhaps I could crop out the faces and run an AO beauty pageant in surveys.

Ditka, N2N, can the ladies throw in their two cents as well?

[ditkaworshipper]

Holy shit, this board is some rough competition! Actually, I'm not too surprised considering the workouts he talks about in the fitness forums.

[campbell]

look, if the guys want to share their pics, they know how to PM me (or find my email addy) - i'm not asking Loner to cough them up.

[ditkaworshipper]

And yes, campbell and chillax are OK to share pics with. pm an email address.

[Chillax]

And yes, campbell and chillax are OK to share pics with. pm an email address.

To you or Loner? :popcorn:

[ditkaworshipper]

me is fine, I'm sure Loner wouldn't mind. Whatever.

[Lucy]

dammit, i want the pics now.
:iatp:

[campbell]

I will confirm that dw is cute.

As to whether he could make lots of dough as a stripper.... well, I don't have enough experience to gauge that.

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

I was asked for an honest assessment, I gave one. N2N is better looking than most, so it's not an insult to say one would not do as well as he would. Sheba is more defined, but N2N is, well, just prettier. Ditka cleans up nice though.

:toth:

I greatly appreciate the compliment :) I take it quite seriously coming from you.

Sorry, I have given my word. They need to give permission to share images.

Perhaps I could crop out the faces and run an AO beauty pageant in surveys.


You can share with Campbell, Chillax, and Lucy.

[Chillax]

I will confirm that dw is cute.

As to whether he could make lots of dough as a stripper.... well, I don't have enough experience to gauge that.

I'll compare once I see N2N!

:toth:

I greatly appreciate the compliment :) I take it quite seriously coming from you.

You can share with Campbell, Chillax, and Lucy.

:party:

[Loner]

Chillax, I need an email addy.

[Lucy]

I was asked for an honest assessment, I gave one. N2N is better looking than most, so it's not an insult to say one would not do as well as he would. Sheba is more defined, but N2N is, well, just prettier. Ditka cleans up nice though.I agree with Loner. They are both nice looking men, and I would give the nod to N2N. But I have no clue what either could earn as a stripper. ;)

[Agadefe]

This thread took an interesting turn.

[limabeanactuary]

wait - did lucy get n2n pics, and not me?!

[Loner]

wait - did lucy get n2n pics, and not me?!

Lucy sent me an email address. I'm not your google monkey. ;)

[hellomath]

Hey, can I trade some pics for a seminar discount? ;)

(KIDDING!!!!)

Campbell should pay you for the pics

[ditkaworshipper]

Nee-2-No, it sounds like we need to switch your tag from "member" to "Official AO BoyToy"

[limabeanactuary]

I will confirm that n2n is also cute...

and I agree with the other judges:

Torso-to-torso, n2n is the clear winner. Sorry, dw. Something for you to strive for.

[JUICE]

:shake2:

[limabeanactuary]

Oh, is someone objecting to the objectifying?

Why cannot the ladies enjoy some eye candy?

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Nee-2-No, it sounds like we need to switch your tag from "member" to "Official AO BoyToy"

:lol:

Maybe. I'll start and AO male stripper sevice...lol.

I am going to head up to the Health and Fitness forum to start recruiting other strippers.

Thread coming ;)

[JUICE]

Oh, is someone objecting to the objectifying?

Why cannot the ladies enjoy some eye candy?

More to the attention whoring. But ogling by menopausal women is also kind of.... disturbing :shudder:

[ditkaworshipper]

Alright, it sounds like everyone is politely saying I need to tone up. Thanks for the honest feedback!

JUICE, sorry for attention-whoring. Loner was giving honest assessments, which are hard to come by IRL. If I was really trying to attention whore, I would have waited until I was at the end of a cut phase instead of the end of a build phase.

[limabeanactuary]

More to the attention whoring. But ogling by menopausal women is also kind of.... disturbing :shudder:

Hey, the dirty old men get to have their fun....

[ShebaPoe]

Lol. N2N is a nice looking guy. I noticed that immediately upon meeting him, when he was wearing a sportscoat and looking dapper.

A few hours later, the coat was gone and his face was all cut up, so he was perhaps a little bit less good looking. ;)

[limabeanactuary]

Alright, it sounds like everyone is politely saying I need to tone up. People IRL are too polite to give criticism, so thanks for the motivation! I'm going to declare war on N2N for the summer and hit the gym a littl emore.

You also need to get a camera that can focus.

[Loner]

Alright, it sounds like everyone is politely saying I need to tone up. People IRL are too polite to give criticism, so thanks for the motivation! I'm going to declare war on N2N for the summer and hit the gym a littl emore.

The Council of Cougars has spoken. :judge:

Srsly, though it's not like you're by any means out of shape.

[JUICE]

The Council of Cougars has spoken. :judge:

Srsly, though it's not like you're by any means out of shape.

What he's trying to say is that you're currently useless in the gay community. This may be good news, until you realize you could double your penetration potential, not to mention free drinks received on a given night out. So you better hit the gym, I guess. The choice is yours. YES, CHOICE. :lol:

[limabeanactuary]

So get back to us in 6 mos, dw, and we can do this exercise again, and remark upon your progress.

[JUICE]

So get back to us in 6 mos, dw, and we can do this exercise again, and remark upon your progress.

I threw up a little bit. In my mouth.

[Lucy]

You also need to get a camera that can focus.Better yet, take pictures someplace where you don't need a mirror and flash, the glare is really distracting.

The Council of Cougars has spoken. :judge:

Srsly, though it's not like you're by any means out of shape.You look like you are in pretty good shape to me. My preference has more to do with style than with any flaws or anything.

[limabeanactuary]

And jeez, I'm not 40.... yet. What age does cougarhood begin at now? 30?

[JUICE]

And jeez, I'm not 40.... yet. What age does cougarhood begin at now? 30?

I called you menopausal. And you are objecting to cougar?!? :shake2:

[DaveTheBarbarian]

And jeez, I'm not 40.... yet. What age does cougarhood begin at now? 30?

Yes. A cougar is a woman who goes after men much younger than them. Therefore, if you date a guy who's 18 - 20 and you are 30, then you may fit the definition of cougar

[Lucy]

I called you menopausal. And you are objecting to cougar?!? :shake2:
:lol: I object to "menopausal", but not to "cougar". Not when I'm oogling photos of young men.

Although I saw a great tee-shirt that I might have to buy so I can take it out when the time comes. "I'm still hot, it just comes in flashes now."

[Loner]

What he's trying to say is that you're currently useless in the gay community.

No true at all - the chickenhawks would be all over him. I'm just saying N2N would do better overall.

[ShebaPoe]

So get back to us in 6 mos, dw, and we can do this exercise again, and remark upon your progress.

it's the diet, ditka, the diet.

You work out a lot, now stop eating crap, then you too can stun the ladies of the AO.

[Loner]

it's the diet, ditka, the diet.

You work out a lot, now stop eating crap, then you too can stun the ladies of the AO.

ditka is skinnier from what I can see, he needs to bulk up a bit.

[Agadefe]

No true at all - the chickenhawks would be all over him. I'm just saying N2N would do better overall.

Loner, would you say gay guys are interested in a different look 'in general' than straight women are?

I've typically gotten a bit of attention at gay clubs the few times I've went, though I guess this is probably also related to men being more forward with their attention in general.

[limabeanactuary]

I called you menopausal. And you are objecting to cougar?!? :shake2:

I probably won't hit menopause for another 15 years, at least. Jeez.

[limabeanactuary]

In any case, both n2n and dw are much too young for me. I like my guys older.

[ditkaworshipper]

it's the diet, ditka, the diet.

You work out a lot, now stop eating crap, then you too can stun the ladies of the AO.
Actually, my diet is a lot cleaner than it was a year ago. It can always get better, but I'm trying to make the changes slowly so that they're actually lifestyle changes and not just a quick fix. The main problem I'm having right now is eating enough times a day.
ditka is skinnier from what I can see, he needs to bulk up a bit.
Oh, not going to happen. I'm about the right size for my height for Gaelic football right now, which takes precedence over vanity for me. Substitution rules are like soccer and rugby, and our field is about twice the size. I do, however, want to drop about 3-4% on my bodyfat.

[ShebaPoe]

ditka is skinnier from what I can see, he needs to bulk up a bit.

there you go ditka, a roadmap for how to stun the guys of the AO, as well as the ladies.

I think ditka wrote elsewhere that he is about 5' 11", 185 pounds. So yeah, fit, but maybe not terribly muscular. (Being muscular might not support his fitness goals; I'm just making an observation as to his size). If I'm off on these numbers then disregard.

In any case, that funny looking thing in the back of your gym is called a squat rack. Look into it. ;)

[ditkaworshipper]

No true at all - the chickenhawks would be all over him. I'm just saying N2N would do better overall.
:lol: I had to look up chickenhawk (gay male equivalent to cougar), but yes, I do get that type of attention.

[ShebaPoe]

What about the bears? Who would the bears prefer?

I think N2N, but that's just a guess.

[ditkaworshipper]

there you go ditka, a roadmap for how to stun the guys of the AO, as well as the ladies.

I think ditka wrote elsewhere that he is about 5' 11", 185 pounds. So yeah, fit, but maybe not terribly muscular. (Being muscular might not support his fitness goals; I'm just making an observation as to his size). If I'm off on these numbers then disregard.

In any case, that funny looking thing in the back of your gym is called a squat rack. Look into it. ;)
Numbers are correct. I did 40 bodyweight squats on Sunday to test the waters actually, and they are a great exercise. Unfortunately, with how much sprint work I already do, they don't fit into my routine very often (I try to focus on power at the gym since I have a very good motor). I'll do them any time weather cancels practice though, maybe try to get the Iowa workout in at some point.

[Lucy]

Loner, would you say gay guys are interested in a different look 'in general' than straight women are?I'll take that one. Gay men, like any other group of people, have varied tastes. But it's fairly common for a straight woman and a gay man to play the "what do you think of that?" game, and gay men and straight women have similar preferences. I'd say the biggest difference is that gay men are more likely to prefer younger men, and straight women more likely to prefer older men.

[limabeanactuary]

I like facial hair on men.....

[DaveTheBarbarian]

Numbers are correct. I did 40 bodyweight squats on Sunday to test the waters actually, and they are a great exercise. Unfortunately, with how much sprint work I already do, they don't fit into my routine very often (I try to focus on power at the gym since I have a very good motor). I'll do them any time weather cancels practice though, maybe try to get the Iowa workout in at some point.

All the varsity guys rely on squats and other olympic type lifts (cleans) to get up their power, particularly their fast twitch fibers. It would do you good for your sports to implement these exercises.

[ElDucky]

I like facial hair on men.....

It does look better than facial hair on women.

[Loner]

What about the bears? Who would the bears prefer?

I think N2N, but that's just a guess.

The bears would prefer ME. If only I could reciprocate...

[ShebaPoe]

Numbers are correct. I did 40 bodyweight squats on Sunday to test the waters actually, and they are a great exercise. Unfortunately, with how much sprint work I already do, they don't fit into my routine very often (I try to focus on power at the gym since I have a very good motor). I'll do them any time weather cancels practice though, maybe try to get the Iowa workout in at some point.

If you're doing sprint work, you should absolutely be doing squats (back, front and overhead) as well as cleans, jerks and snatches.

Just my 2 cents

[limabeanactuary]

It does look better than facial hair on women.

Yeah, I agree

http://allirooney.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/bunny.jpg?w=480&h=480

[ElDucky]

Definitely do more snatches, no matter what Loner tells you.

[win diesel]

The bears would prefer ME. If only I could reciprocate...

pour some honey all over yourself

wtf is a bear anyway?

[ditkaworshipper]

All the varsity guys rely on squats and other olympic type lifts (cleans) to get up their power, particularly their fast twitch fibers. It would do you good for your sports to implement these exercises.
1. Varsity guys spend more time in the gym than I can.
2. My gym doesn't have the proper type of weights to do cleans and snatches, otherwise I'd be doing them.
3. What sport are you talking about for "varsity guys?" I have to be somewhere between a back in rugby and a soccer player physically. Soccer players mostly do pilates and plyometric strength training from what I've read.

After the season, I plan on hitting the squat rack a lot, but I'm borderline overtraining my legs for the rest of the summer already. I'm thinking about 2 sets a week on the squat rack to check for balance issues, but that's it for now.

[Loner]

pour some honey all over yourself

wtf is a bear anyway?

A gay man who has given up and fetishized his fat and body hair.

[limabeanactuary]

A gay man who has given up and fetishized his fat and body hair.

Hey, one of my friends had to work hard to become a bear. He was this wee lil thing when we were in college, and we used to make fun of him for it [b/c he wanted the big muscles so much].... took him a good ten years to bulk up nice and big.

[ditkaworshipper]

Definitely do more snatches, no matter what Loner tells you.
I'm always trying to do more snatches. Always.

[DaveTheBarbarian]

1. Varsity guys spend more time in the gym than I can.
2. My gym doesn't have the proper type of weights to do cleans and snatches, otherwise I'd be doing them.
3. What sport are you talking about for "varsity guys?" I have to be somewhere between a back in rugby and a soccer player physically. Soccer players mostly do pilates and plyometric strength training from what I've read.

After the season, I plan on hitting the squat rack a lot, but I'm borderline overtraining my legs for the rest of the summer already.



Football mostly, some basketball, but I figured it would be similar to rugby in needing that explosive power. You don't necessarily need to spend a whole bunch of time to do these exercises, but of course given time constraints you would probably have to give up something else in your routine to allow for these things. I just think they are highly effective and a lot more interesting to do anyway.

[Chillax]

Chillax, I need an email addy.

Sent :tup:

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Lol. N2N is a nice looking guy. I noticed that immediately upon meeting him, when he was wearing a sportscoat and looking dapper.

A few hours later, the coat was gone and his face was all cut up, so he was perhaps a little bit less good looking. ;)

Yeah. I may not have gotten such good marks if they saw me with the jacked up face I had in Vegas. :lol:

..If I was really trying to attention whore, I would have waited until I was at the end of a cut phase instead of the end of a build phase.

If I am your benchmark, I am a pretty stationary target to shoot for.

At the risk of sounding like I am bragging, the picture I sent was taken the day before yesterday, and I haven't worked out a lick since before vegas, and have been eating total garbage since then. It's been about 3 weeks since I worked out or was on a decent diet.


The truth is, if I sent a pic from January, when I hadn't worked out in 9 months, it wouldn't look a whole lot different. I was a few lbs of muscle lighter, but that's it.


It's just genetics. I always have about that same shape, build, and definition. It's really just size that varies on whether or not I am working out. I may be 5 lbs ligher, or 5 lbs heavier, but that's it. That's just how I look.

In fact, it is pretty difficult for me to trim down anymore, just like I don't get much chubbier. So, how I look in that pic is also about as good as I will ever look, regardless of how much I work out, or what I eat.

So, if your goal is to look better than me, it won't matter what I do in the meantime, if you pass me, you pass me. I can't look much different than I do now.

I suspect my genetic advantage will start to fade over the next 10 years though, and it will require a bit more effort to look as I do.

[limabeanactuary]

I don't know. I find men look better as they grey a bit. ;)

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

I don't know. I find men look better as they grey a bit. ;)

Well, if my genetics are truly in line with my parents, that grey is too far off into my future :lol:

My family is know for having lots of hair, but not lots of color.

[ditkaworshipper]

Football mostly, some basketball, but I figured it would be similar to rugby in needing that explosive power. You don't necessarily need to spend a whole bunch of time to do these exercises, but of course given time constraints you would probably have to give up something else in your routine to allow for these things. I just think they are highly effective and a lot more interesting to do anyway.
OK, that's what I figured. Using these sports as a benchmark just doesn't work very well because you get to substitute constantly, allowing you to carry a lot more bulk than is ideal for Gaelic football, rugby and soccer. One of the reasons American football players are so big is because compared to other sports, they actually have to do much less. As you add size, endurance is more difficult to maintain. To make matters even worse for that, I have tournaments that will require me to play 4-5 games in a day occasionally, although typically I'll be playing 1 game in a day.

[Keep It Real, Yo]

Numbers are correct. I did 40 bodyweight squats on Sunday to test the waters actually, and they are a great exercise. Unfortunately, with how much sprint work I already do, they don't fit into my routine very often (I try to focus on power at the gym since I have a very good motor). I'll do them any time weather cancels practice though, maybe try to get the Iowa workout in at some point.

How often do you do sprint work? And what kind of intervals?

[ditkaworshipper]

n2n, I'm not trying to look better than you since it sounds like you're too pretty for me to have a chance on that one anyways. I just need benchmarks that show current methods are inadequate to motivate myself.

[ditkaworshipper]

How often do you do sprint work? And what kind of intervals?
Drills and scrimmageing essentially sprint work, so intervals under 50 yards. I typically get a few miles of cutting in during a practice. I'm always trying to do everything at full speed both for practice and conditioning, so my hammies get wrecked once you add in the kicking.

[ShebaPoe]

I'm always trying to do more snatches. Always.

And the AO is showing you the way.

[ditkaworshipper]

Anyways, can we get back to talking about N2N's stripper fling? She's pretty hot actually...and a stripper people!

[limabeanactuary]

Well, if my genetics are truly in line with my parents, that grey is too far off into my future :lol:

My family is know for having lots of hair, but not lots of color.

See, this is why I like facial hair. Men tend to go grey in their beards before on their heads.

[DaveTheBarbarian]

See, this is why I like facial hair. Men tend to go grey in their beards before on their heads.

Thats cause they don't usually have much or any hair to grey when they get older

[DaveTheBarbarian]

OK, that's what I figured. Using these sports as a benchmark just doesn't work very well because you get to substitute constantly, allowing you to carry a lot more bulk than is ideal for Gaelic football, rugby and soccer. One of the reasons American football players are so big is because compared to other sports, they actually have to do much less. As you add size, endurance is more difficult to maintain. To make matters even worse for that, I have tournaments that will require me to play 4-5 games in a day occasionally, although typically I'll be playing 1 game in a day.


I see what you are saying regarding bulk, but keep in mind that these lifts aren't reserved strictly for mass building. They develop functional power, and that could mean simply strengthening those fast twitch fibers that would allow you to achieve the quick bursts you need for your sport. Endurance can be achieved by combining this sort of training with traditional cardio vascular exercises (running).

Sorry for the off-topic continuance, but I dig this stuff.

[tgadd]

Anyways, can we get back to talking about N2N's stripper fling? She's pretty hot actually...and a stripper people!

:iatp:


N2N - When's the date?

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Anyways, can we get back to talking about N2N's stripper fling? She's pretty hot actually...and a stripper people!

Yeah. Really.

I'll be honest, though. The whole stripper thing is going by the way side. I haven't talked to her a whole lot the last couple days. I sorta lost interest. She got boring quickly. Not that that's a surprise.

I doubt she's gonna come chasing after me, so that might be that. People that have guys throwing themselves at them for a living don't feel the need to do much chasing, I imagine.

But we'll see.