Bad Beats Here

[MNBridge]

Sometimes you just gotta vent and you know noone wants to hear it.

So my friend this is the spot for you. Bad Beat stories allowed.

So let's hear about your Aces gettng cracked by 72o or your Top set losing to a runner runner flush.


OK Let's Get :swear: :argue: :shake: :-? :rant: :soap: :evil: :argue: :x

[MNBridge]

I'm starting to wonder. I've never seen beats like this in person (at least not this consistent) My last few tournaments really made me start to question it.

back to back to back 4ths.
Losing Hands K's all in Preflop lose to 4's
Flop straight 10 Q, Flop 9,J,K go all in at flop Lose to A, 10
5's flop set lose to Aces on river (after all in on flop)

Tonight Real money 3 all ins all night (All of the all ins were at least 2x pot)

Have 56 flop 7,8,2 Bet $10 2 callers -- Pot now @ $40
Turn 9 Bet All in $120 more -- 1 caller
River J (You guessed it against 9,10)

KJ Flop KJ8 Turn 6 All In River 9 -- Yes I lose to Q 10

And after getting drawn out on the; grand finalle (my turn to draw on someone).

Jd Qd
Flop 10d Kd 8x All in
Turn 6
River 6

Lose to A4 unsuited. Beautiful


I understand that bad beats happen but 6 in a row!!!! I also find it strange that I took top 3 in 10 of my first 19 single tourneys and haven't placed in my last 10.

I have no idea what to do? I can post some hands to let people see if my play is bad but I don't think so.

If nothing else thanks for letting me vent. I'm :swear:

[Cynical Realist]

I have no idea what to do? I can post some hands to let people see if my play is bad but I don't think so.


On January 1st 2003 you took a significant beating from Zab at the poker tables, and you think your play can't be bad??? :roll: :o

[vegas]

Jd Qd
Flop 10d Kd 8x All in
Turn 6
River 6

Lose to A4 unsuited. Beautiful



I'm shocked this guy called, unless he was in a dominating chip position against you.

I would not have gone all in here. I would have bet becaase you have to test the waters. Also, a good bet here allows for an all-in bluff on the turn.

JMO

[I Pity the Fool]

Here was a bad beat.... for the other guy. 8) It's one of the worst hands I've ever played (no need to critique it, I'm aware of its many bad decisions), and it's also one of the ones I've won the most on.

PokerStars Game #: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2)
- 2004/02/15 -
12:30:09 (ET)
Table 'Henrietta' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: poggy ($199.05 in chips)
Seat 2: JackRussell ($199 in chips)
Seat 5: Slash99 ($240.05 in chips)
Seat 6: Me ($133.40 in chips)
Seat 7: xdxbcooperx ($47 in chips)
Seat 8: KBS502 ($80.95 in chips)
Seat 9: LuckyDog1 ($240.20 in chips)
xdxbcooperx: posts small blind $1
KBS502: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Me [Jc 4c]
LuckyDog1: calls $2
poggy: folds
JackRussell: calls $2
Slash99: calls $2
Me: calls $2
xdxbcooperx: calls $1
KBS502: raises $6 to $8
LuckyDog1: folds
JackRussell: calls $6
Slash99: folds
Me: calls $6
xdxbcooperx: folds
*** FLOP *** [6h 4h 3c]
KBS502: bets $20
JackRussell: folds
Me: raises $105.40 to $125.40 and is all-in
KBS502: calls $52.95 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [6h 4h 3c] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [6h 4h 3c 2d] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KBS502: shows [Qh Qc] (a pair of Queens)
Me: shows [Jc 4c] (two pair, Jacks and Fours)
Me collected $172.90 from pot
Me said, "d**n man"
Me said, "i was trying to buy the pot. sorry dude,
i got lucky."
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $175.90 | Rake $3
Board [6h 4h 3c 2d Jh]
Seat 1: poggy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: JackRussell folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Slash99 folded before Flop
Seat 6: Me (button) showed [Jc 4c] and won
($172.90) with two pair,
Jacks and Fours
Seat 7: xdxbcooperx (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: KBS502 (big blind) showed [Qh Qc] and lost
with a pair of
Queens
Seat 9: LuckyDog1 folded before Flop

[Bama Gambler]

Have 56 flop 7,8,2 Bet $10 2 callers -- Pot now @ $40
Turn 9 Bet All in $120 more -- 1 caller
River J (You guessed it against 9,10)You bet $120 without the nuts? You've got balls for sure. The other guy has bigger balls, he called $120 without the nuts.

[MNBridge]

I have no idea what to do? I can post some hands to let people see if my play is bad but I don't think so.


On January 1st 2003 you took a significant beating from Zab at the poker tables, and you think your play can't be bad??? :roll: :o

Actually I won $500, maybe that's what I need another game with those clowns to get my ego back.

Still confused how Zab won $1000 and JT won $2500+

[MNBridge]

Have 56 flop 7,8,2 Bet $10 2 callers -- Pot now @ $40
Turn 9 Bet All in $120 more -- 1 caller
River J (You guessed it against 9,10)You bet $120 without the nuts? You've got balls for sure. The other guy has bigger balls, he called $120 without the nuts.

what is an appropriate bet here? And how should various scenarios be played?

BTW i was amazed at the hands people were calling all ins with and hat may have lead to my bet here.

[Bama Gambler]

Please give more info about the way the hand played before the flop. What were the blinds? Who raised? How many players? What were their stack sizes? etc.

[MNBridge]

I'll have to check from home. I know I don't have the ring games saved but should be able to find some tourney stuff.

[Bama Gambler]

Assuming no flush draw and given no more information I say a bet of 20 would have been enough. Betting 20 into a pot of 40 lays 3:1 odds. In this case, you are either drawing dead (to JT) or someones drawing agaist you. If someone is drawing against you the worst case would be trips (leaving them 10 outs) and they need 3.4:1 to make their call correct (not accounting for implied odds). If they have an open ended (a ten in their hand) they have 7 outs (8 in their mind since they don't know you have a 6) thus they need 4.5:1 to call. Two pair only has 6 outs and needs 6:1 call. In summary, betting 20 will not give anyone the right price to call. I would bet 20 if I was raised and had a good reason to think he had JT I would lay down. If someone just called I would put him on one of the draws mentioned above. If the str draw gets there on the river then I would bet again (prob 20), but if the other draw gets there I would check. If someone missed their str draw they would simply fold to a bet, but by checking I give them a chance to bet and I can pick off a bluff. If someone missed their full house or two pair draw, they will prob pay off my bet on the river.

[MNBridge]

Assuming no flush draw and given no more information I say a bet of 20 would have been enough. Betting 20 into a pot of 40 lays 3:1 odds. In this case, you are either drawing dead (to JT) or someones drawing agaist you. If someone is drawing against you the worst case would be trips (leaving them 10 outs) and they need 3.4:1 to make their call correct (not accounting for implied odds). If they have an open ended (a ten in their hand) they have 7 outs (8 in their mind since they don't know you have a 6) thus they need 4.5:1 to call. Two pair only has 6 outs and needs 6:1 call. In summary, betting 20 will not give anyone the right price to call. I would bet 20 if I was raised and had a good reason to think he had JT I would lay down. If someone just called I would put him on one of the draws mentioned above. If the str draw gets there on the river then I would bet again (prob 20), but if the other draw gets there I would check. If someone missed their str draw they would simply fold to a bet, but by checking I give them a chance to bet and I can pick off a bluff. If someone missed their full house or two pair draw, they will prob pay off my bet on the river.

I need to start thinking in that way. I'm taking a sabatical until after exams. Unless my buddies (listed above) decide they want to make life easy and set up a game.

I was thinking no on with 10, J would call the first bet (gut shot draw). I did however think there could be potentially a high pair or a 9 10 out there. Someone could have been slow playing trips too.

So I felt I'd go all in and either take it down right there (saving the pain of a draw out) or be getting pretty good odds on my $'s.

P.S. You seem to really have the odds down for this stuff, is there a book somewhere that you use or is it from the you analyzing the probabilities?

I could also use a good NL tourney book if there is one out there.

I'm going to quit playing for 3 months but not studying.

[Bama Gambler]

I could only do the odds easily because there is one card coming. Simple count the number of outs out of the 52-4-2=46 cards remaining. For example, open ended str draw on turn has 8 outs. So he needs 46-8:8 or 38:8 or 4.75:1 to call.

There was another thread that listed a website about a quick rule to compute odds. I can't find the thread. But the link was excellent.

[Cynical Realist]

I have no idea what to do? I can post some hands to let people see if my play is bad but I don't think so.


On January 1st 2003 you took a significant beating from Zab at the poker tables, and you think your play can't be bad??? :roll: :o

Actually I won $500, maybe that's what I need another game with those clowns to get my ego back.

Still confused how Zab won $1000 and JT won $2500+

You're quoting January 1st 2004 results. I was talking the beating you took on January 1st 2003 - Maybe you got better at poker in the last year. But if you can't win in that game - you can't be infallible.

[Sotally Tober]

Not so much a bad beat as much as bad luck. lordphoenix with A-5o, awful call. Awful.

PokerStars Game #300697344: Tournament #1049475, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2004/02/22 - 20:04:50 (ET)
Table '1049475 1' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: 10-2-4 (2445 in chips)
Seat 2: irighti (5515 in chips)
Seat 3: rdavey (1525 in chips)
Seat 7: Misdemeaner (2375 in chips)
Seat 8: lordphoenix (1640 in chips)
lordphoenix: posts small blind 75
10-2-4: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rdavey [Kh Kc]
irighti: raises 1200 to 1350
rdavey: raises 175 to 1525 and is all-in
lordphoenix said, "all right time to turn it up"
Misdemeaner: folds
lordphoenix: raises 115 to 1640 and is all-in
10-2-4: folds
irighti: calls 290
rdavey said, "who has aces?"
*** FLOP *** [5s 8c Jd]
*** TURN *** [5s 8c Jd] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [5s 8c Jd 4s] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lordphoenix: shows [Ad 5c] (a pair of Fives)
irighti: shows [8h 8d] (three of a kind, Eights)
irighti collected 230 from side pot
rdavey: shows [Kh Kc] (a pair of Kings)
irighti collected 4725 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4955 Main pot 4725. Side pot 230. | Rake 0
Board [5s 8c Jd 4s 3h]
Seat 1: 10-2-4 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: irighti showed [8h 8d] and won (4955) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 3: rdavey showed [Kh Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 7: Misdemeaner (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: lordphoenix (small blind) showed [Ad 5c] and lost with a pair of Fives


In another, a $10 multi-table, 70 left of 650, I have about 5,200 left, average about 12,000-13,000. I'm OTB, 2-3 calls in front of me, I have QQ, I'm all-in, looking to rake. SB, w/average stack, calls, everyone else folds. QQ v. 55. 5 on the flop, I go home. Why in the hell would you risk half your stack against an all-in, from OTB w/ 55?!? I was furious. At least in the hand above the guy had 88 and bet into me before knowing what I had.

[Cosmo]

Worst beat I've had. Holding a J 5.

Flop is 8 J 8

Guy makes a small bet, and I hang around.

Turn J

Guy makes a larger bet, I go all in over him. He calls, and has the 8. Easy pots mine right.

No, River is the 4th 8.

[T-roy Boy]

Just on Saturday

Me: Small Blind (QQ)
Lisa: Big Blind (AA)

I raise to 3x BB
She calls - did I say call. Yes I did - she calls.

Flop Q-Q-8

I bet 3xBB again

She raises all in - Of course I call

Turn and River cards - you guessed it (A-A)

UNBELEIVABLE -

[Hummer]

Just on Saturday

Me: Small Blind (QQ)
Lisa: Big Blind (AA)

I raise to 3x BB
She calls - did I say call. Yes I did - she calls.

Flop Q-Q-8

I bet 3xBB again

She raises all in - Of course I call

Turn and River cards - you guessed it (A-A)

UNBELEIVABLE -

Too bad you weren't in a casino. You'd be a very happily beaten man.

[Westley]

Too bad you weren't in a casino. You'd be a very happily beaten man.

Never played in a casino. What would the normal payout for this bad beat be? Would it be higher because it was 4 of a kind (as opposed to full house or flush)?

[Hummer]

Jackpots vary from Casino to Casino. Most that I've seen run between $10,000 - $20,000. You would get half, the winner a quarter and the rest of the table would chop the other quarter.

[Expunge]

*********** # 62 **************
PokerStars Game #302169505: Tournament #1055430, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2004/02/23 - 19:33:35 (ET)
Table '1055430 1' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: Shpink (3250 in chips)
Seat 4: T-ITUP (950 in chips)
Seat 6: caps 25 (4460 in chips)
Seat 7: ryan5823 (2445 in chips)
Seat 9: SP0NGE (2395 in chips)
SP0NGE: posts small blind 75
Shpink: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ks Kd]
T-ITUP: raises 800 to 950 and is all-in
caps 25: folds
ryan5823: folds
SP0NGE: raises 1445 to 2395 and is all-in
Shpink: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jd Qc Ts]
*** TURN *** [Jd Qc Ts] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [Jd Qc Ts 9h] [8s]
SP0NGE said, "lol"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [Ks Kd] (a straight, Nine to King)
T-ITUP: shows [Kc Qs] (a straight, Nine to King)
ryan5823 said, "f"
SP0NGE collected 1025 from pot
T-ITUP collected 1025 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2050 | Rake 0
Board [Jd Qc Ts 9h 8s]
Seat 2: Shpink (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: T-ITUP showed [Kc Qs] and won (1025) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 6: caps 25 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ryan5823 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SP0NGE (small blind) showed [Ks Kd] and won (1025) with a straight, Nine to King

[dfeucht]

Jackpots vary from Casino to Casino. Most that I've seen run between $10,000 - $20,000. You would get half, the winner a quarter and the rest of the table would chop the other quarter.

Canterbury Park in Minnesota has had that jackpot up to $80,000 - $90,000 before.

50% - bad beat
25% - winner
25% - rest of players dealt a hand at the table

(Is this a normal payout structure for bad beat??)

[fallout]

Jackpots vary from Casino to Casino. Most that I've seen run between $10,000 - $20,000. You would get half, the winner a quarter and the rest of the table would chop the other quarter.

I had four 9's, with the board showing 99KKK and one guy betting at me. If he had K (anything bigger then 9) I would have taken over $25K. He had QQ so I just took a nice pot. C'est la vie. I never shook as badly as when he bet at me after the river. I was counting the dough.

[Expunge]

POKERSTARS GAME #303781634: TOURNAMENT #1062057, HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL V (75/150) - 2004/02/24 - 19:35:30 (ET)
Table '1062057 1' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Horsehead (3010 in chips)
Seat 2: SP0NGE (2090 in chips)
Seat 5: halibutguide (3270 in chips)
Seat 7: Machpit (1280 in chips)
Seat 9: QuincyG (1240 in chips)
QuincyG: posts small blind 75
Horsehead: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Tc Ts]
SP0NGE: raises 150 to 300
halibutguide: folds
Machpit: raises 150 to 450
QuincyG: folds
Horsehead: folds
SP0NGE: raises 1640 to 2090 and is all-in
Machpit: calls 830 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [6s 6d Qh]
*** TURN *** [6s 6d Qh] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [6s 6d Qh 4d] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [Tc Ts] (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
Machpit: shows [4c 4h] (a full house, Fours full of Sixes)
SP0NGE said, "lol"
Machpit collected 2785 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2785 | Rake 0
Board [6s 6d Qh 4d 9c]
Seat 1: Horsehead (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: SP0NGE showed [Tc Ts] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sixes
Seat 5: halibutguide folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Machpit (button) showed [4c 4h] and won (2785) with a full house, Fours full of Sixes
Seat 9: QuincyG (small blind) folded before Flop

[fallout]

$10 SNG 6 guys left. Chip leader is on a tear...

**** Hand History for Game 412935014 *****
Table Card Room Table 8187 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: aceNDhole34 ( $4123 )
Seat 6: Willcam ( $1005 )
Seat 8: wadewilson ( $600 )
Seat 1: mahlon ( $230 )
Seat 3: paycheck02 ( $537 )
Seat 7: fallaway ( $1505 )
Trny:2420487 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to fallaway [ Tc Jh ]
aceNDhole34 calls [100].
Willcam folds.
fallaway calls [100].
wadewilson folds.
mahlon is all-In.
paycheck02 folds.
aceNDhole34 raises [260].
fallaway calls [260].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, Qc, 8s ]
aceNDhole34 bets [500].
fallaway is all-In.
aceNDhole34 calls [645].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
aceNDhole34 shows a full house, Queens full of nines.
fallaway shows a straight, eight to queen.
mahlon shows a pair of nines.
aceNDhole34 wins 2550 chips from side pot #1 with a full house, Queens full of nines.
aceNDhole34 wins 790 chips from the main pot with a full house, Queens full of nines.

This no limit thing is new to me as I spent a lot of time in low limit real money games. Should I have tossed the 10 J o before the flop?

How important is it that I could have probably floated to a check by tightening up even more?

[Drzy]

*Snip!*

[Hummer]

This no limit thing is new to me as I spent a lot of time in low limit real money games. Should I have tossed the 10 J o before the flop?

How important is it that I could have probably floated to a check by tightening up even more?

Yeah, I would trash that hand. Also, in a position like this, be careful of butting heads with the chip leader. You can play weaker hands against short stacks since they are likely to move in with one themselves.

When a player goes on a tear like that, they are likely to keep betting heavy until they are beaten. So once you decided to enter the pot, you have to realize that you are likely to be called in for all of your chips.

[Voter]

In the past two days I've had:

A set of threes beat by a set of fives.
A set of sevens beat by a set of eights.

In both cases the board paired on the turn, giving me the full house, and also made third of a suit. So, I thought I was trouncing a flush and the betting was capped.

At least it was limit though, it wasn't nearly as costly as Drzy's hands. :P

[Hummer]

In the past two days I've had:

A set of threes beat by a set of fives.
A set of sevens beat by a set of eights.

In both cases the board paired on the turn, giving me the full house, and also made third of a suit. So, I thought I was trouncing a flush and the betting was capped.

At least it was limit though, it wasn't nearly as costly as Drzy's hands. :P

Last night at a $4/8 table at a casino. Played 4 hands to a showdown in the first hour.
1. Q9s - Queen high flush made on the river beaten by King high.
2. A5s - Nut flush made on the river won decent pot.
3. JTs - Flush made on the turn. Raised on flop (top pair w/flush draw) and raised on the turn. Kxo called both raises to catch flush when fourth flush card fell.
4. KQs - Virtually same as #3 except lost to Axo on the river.

Later in the night when I hit a queen high flush on the river and everyone checked to me, I was so timid that I checked for a showdown rather than squeezing a bet or two out even though I was sure no one had a flush.

After the six hour roller coaster I left happy only down $40.

[FSAme]

:x :evil:

*********** # 51 **************
PokerStars Game #308147499: Tournament #1081238, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2004/02/27 - 17:29:59 (ET)
Table '1081238 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: teamfoy (1620 in chips)
Seat 2: sigfus (4437 in chips)
Seat 5: dass (4465 in chips)
Seat 7: JJ147 (3075 in chips)
Seat 8: Morteler (1245 in chips)
Seat 9: DblDownTrent (915 in chips)
DblDownTrent: posts small blind 75
teamfoy: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DblDownTrent [Kd Ks]
sigfus: folds
dass: calls 150
JJ147: folds
Morteler: folds
DblDownTrent: raises 765 to 915 and is all-in
teamfoy: folds
dass: calls 765
*** FLOP *** [9h 3s 6d]
*** TURN *** [9h 3s 6d] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [9h 3s 6d Jc] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DblDownTrent: shows [Kd Ks] (a pair of Kings)
dass: shows [8s 9d] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
dass collected 1980 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1980 | Rake 0
Board [9h 3s 6d Jc 8c]
Seat 1: teamfoy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: sigfus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dass showed [8s 9d] and won (1980) with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 7: JJ147 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Morteler (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: DblDownTrent (small blind) showed [Kd Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings

[3rookie]

Drzy, that's some bad $hit.

[foghorn]

Not really a bad beat except chipwise. I think I would do it again. Anyone think I shouldn't?

PokerStars Game #308965411: Tournament #1074333, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2004/02/28 - 02:19:40 (ET)
Table '1074333 16' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ICheck (538 in chips)
Seat 2: TINNER (4035 in chips)
Seat 3: buzzzsaw (7012 in chips)
Seat 4: CUTboy11 (5460 in chips)
Seat 5: mwilk (6405 in chips)
Seat 6: txtd (13770 in chips)
Seat 7: Brahmabulldg (7295 in chips)
Seat 8: missvicky (6300 in chips)
Seat 9: Resita (5100 in chips)
TINNER: posts small blind 75
buzzzsaw: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to txtd [8d Td]
CUTboy11: calls 150
mwilk: calls 150
txtd: calls 150
Brahmabulldg: folds
missvicky: calls 150
Resita: folds
ICheck: raises 388 to 538 and is all-in
TINNER: folds
buzzzsaw: calls 388
CUTboy11: calls 388
mwilk: calls 388
txtd: calls 388
missvicky: calls 388
*** FLOP *** [9h Ad 7d]
buzzzsaw: checks
CUTboy11: checks
mwilk: bets 3000
txtd: calls 3000
missvicky: calls 3000
buzzzsaw: folds
CUTboy11: raises 1922 to 4922 and is all-in
mwilk: calls 1922
txtd: calls 1922
missvicky: calls 1922
*** TURN *** [9h Ad 7d] [As]
mwilk: bets 945 and is all-in
txtd: calls 945
missvicky: calls 840 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [9h Ad 7d As] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mwilk: shows [7h 7s] (four of a kind, Sevens)
txtd: shows [8d Td] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
mwilk collected 210 from side pot-3
missvicky: shows [6s 8s] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
mwilk collected 2520 from side pot-2
CUTboy11: shows [9d 9c] (a full house, Nines full of Aces)
mwilk collected 19688 from side pot-1
ICheck: shows [Jd Kc] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
mwilk collected 3303 from main pot
txtd said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 25721 Main pot 3303. Side pot-1 19688. Side pot-2 2520. Side pot-3 210. | Rake 0
Board [9h Ad 7d As 7c]
Seat 1: ICheck (button) showed [Jd Kc] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 2: TINNER (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: buzzzsaw (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: CUTboy11 showed [9d 9c] and lost with a full house, Nines full of Aces
Seat 5: mwilk showed [7h 7s] and won (25721) with four of a kind, Sevens
Seat 6: txtd showed [8d Td] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 7: Brahmabulldg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: missvicky showed [6s 8s] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 9: Resita folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Expunge]

preflop i think i fold unless everyone has been limping the entire time. even then i might fold when the all in comes my way. post flop i think i call as you did having so many outs to make big hands

[foghorn]

preflop i think i fold unless everyone has been limping the entire time. even then i might fold when the all in comes my way. post flop i think i call as you did having so many outs to make big hands

I fold this hand most of the time pre-flop as well. I was on a bit of a roll, and if anyone else had raised I would have folded it. This Icheck was all-in several times with nothing. This was a re-buy and he was on at least his fourth, so his all-in didn't scare me. After the call and the flop, I really liked my chances, but I guess so did a lot of others.

[MNBridge]

Ouch

$50 tourney Round 6 (75/150) NL

Dealt BB 77

6 callers.

Flop 7, 6, 5

SB leads out for 150
I raise All- In (1100)

2nd position call (has 2000 in chips) and SB calls (has less chips than me)

Turn A
River 8

2nd position shows 8,8 3 eights
Small blind shows 6, 6 3 sixes

I'm gone in 107th (out of 399)

Worst part. Same idiot knocked me out of tourney 2 weeks ago.
I had KK he had A8 flop was Q, 8, x
I went all in (about 1 1/2 pot) he called and got A on river.

[Drzy]

Not really a bad beat, but part of me was hoping I would lose so I would have a great story to whine about

Heads up match, Drz81 vs. Some Guy

Dealt to Drz81 -- (4h, 5h)
Drz81 calls to BB
Some Guy checks

Flop -- (6h, 7h, 8h)
Drz81 bets BB
Some Guy raises to 4x BB
Drz81 calls

Turn -- (6h, 7h, 8h, 10h)
At this point I thought holy crap, I flopped a straight flush and I'm gonna lose.
Drz81 bets 4x BB
Some Guy calls

River -- (6h, 7h, 8h, 10h, 7d)
Drz81 bets 8x BB (or something like that)
Some Guy raises to all-in

…..drumroll…..

Drz81 calls, ready for the bad beat of his life.

Some Guy reveals [7, 8], full house
Drz81 reveals [4h, 5h], straight flush. Whew!

Flopping a straight flush was a new situation for me, and I wasn't totally sure how to play it. I thought it'd be worth slowplaying a little bit and assuming I most likely couldn't be beat, but perhaps I was wrong. I'd love to hear any advice on how I could (should) have played it differently.

[Rainbow Brite]

:guitarwo:
totally sweet Drzy

[USCanuck]

I'm in teh BB with Big Slick and flop a straight.

SB goes all in with about a third of my chips. I call.
Guy behind me goes all in with less than what SB has.

I had high hand on the flop. I lost to a full house and a flush on the turn and river :shake:

[MNBridge]

Here's a bad beat and I wasn't even in the hand.

$200 SNG tourney.
I'm shortest stack (have maybe 3x BB) and 5 players remain.

Big Stack raises to 2x BB
2 callers

Flop A24. (2 hearts)

Big Stack goes all - in
2 callers.

Turn 3
River 5

Everyone plays the straight and splits the pot.
Big Stack had -- A2
First Caller KQh
Second Caller AJ

If big stack wins. I slide into a cozy 3rd place and take away my $400.

As it was I got knocked out shortly thereafter for 5th :swear:

[Cosmo]

Pocket 2's 4 people in the hand.

Flop 662 different suits.

Ends up after the betting that 3 of us are all in.

One guy had nothing, maybe a 6, maybe a straight draw?
Other guy had pocket K's

Turn 9
River K

The moron wins.

[FSAme]

Pocket 2's 4 people in the hand.

Flop 662 different suits.

Ends up after the betting that 3 of us are all in.

One guy had nothing, maybe a 6, maybe a straight draw?
Other guy had pocket K's

Turn 9
River K

The moron wins.

I'd probably call that with KK too. Not saying I'm not a moron, but I think I would call it.

[Cosmo]

Pocket 2's 4 people in the hand.

Flop 662 different suits.

Ends up after the betting that 3 of us are all in.

One guy had nothing, maybe a 6, maybe a straight draw?
Other guy had pocket K's

Turn 9
River K

The moron wins.

I'd probably call that with KK too. Not saying I'm not a moron, but I think I would call it.


Really? Looking at the hand, you don't assume pocket 2's. But you certainly do 3 6's. I think calling that without a 6 is a bad move. My bitterness comes from multiple times this is happening to me lately though.

[Bama Gambler]

Pocket 2's 4 people in the hand.

Flop 662 different suits.

Ends up after the betting that 3 of us are all in.

One guy had nothing, maybe a 6, maybe a straight draw?
Other guy had pocket K's

Turn 9
River K

The moron wins.

I'd probably call that with KK too. Not saying I'm not a moron, but I think I would call it.


Really? Looking at the hand, you don't assume pocket 2's. But you certainly do 3 6's. I think calling that without a 6 is a bad move. My bitterness comes from multiple times this is happening to me lately though.Why do you assume a 6? How was the hand played pre-flop? 9/10 I'm happy to get my chips in with a flop like this. Not too many players see the flop with a 6 in their hand.

[FSAme]

Pocket 2's 4 people in the hand.

Flop 662 different suits.

Ends up after the betting that 3 of us are all in.

One guy had nothing, maybe a 6, maybe a straight draw?
Other guy had pocket K's

Turn 9
River K

The moron wins.



I'd probably call that with KK too. Not saying I'm not a moron, but I think I would call it.


Really? Looking at the hand, you don't assume pocket 2's. But you certainly do 3 6's. I think calling that without a 6 is a bad move. My bitterness comes from multiple times this is happening to me lately though.

All depends on the action preflop. If all 4 limped in I'd think twice about calling with KK with 3 all-iners in front of me. But if there was substantial betting pre-flop, I call that all day with KK.

[foghorn]

Pocket 2's 4 people in the hand.

Flop 662 different suits.

Ends up after the betting that 3 of us are all in.

One guy had nothing, maybe a 6, maybe a straight draw?
Other guy had pocket K's

Turn 9
River K

The moron wins.



I'd probably call that with KK too. Not saying I'm not a moron, but I think I would call it.


Really? Looking at the hand, you don't assume pocket 2's. But you certainly do 3 6's. I think calling that without a 6 is a bad move. My bitterness comes from multiple times this is happening to me lately though.

All depends on the action preflop. If all 4 limped in I'd think twice about calling with KK with 3 all-iners in front of me. But if there was substantial betting pre-flop, I call that all day with KK.

If I have KK, there is substantial betting pre-flop. That being said, I lost with K's the other day when some guy bet his pocket 3's further than I would have, and then hit a 3 on the flop. 1st hand in, 1st hand out for me.

[O. Hannah]

I am continuously stunned by how aggressive some people play little pockets. And it's not so much the pre-flop as their refusal to give up on them when the flop doesn't help them.

[Hummer]

I am continuously stunned by how aggressive some people play little pockets. And it's not so much the pre-flop as their refusal to give up on them when the flop doesn't help them.

I was just thinking the same thing. Someone could play pocket 4s and not give them up in the face of 3 or 4 over cards. I find only an ace tends to scare them.

[Hummer]

Not really a bad beat, but just a lost opportunity. I was debating with my wife whether to call for the heck of it, but I just couldn't pull the trigger with so many people left to act. Right after folding, I joked about flopping quads. :shake:

***** Hand History for Game 438237364 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sun Mar 07 18:39:06 EST 2004
Table Candy bar (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: chevaro ( $41.85)
Seat 2: Hummer21 ( $53.05)
Seat 3: Ace2020 ( $44.50)
Seat 4: Claybo24 ( $44.35)
Seat 5: WillieWonka1 ( $55.40)
Seat 6: Randal01 ( $68.10)
Seat 7: daveswins ( $189.97)
Seat 8: vodanh ( $49)
Seat 9: ccheaney ( $49)
Seat 10: buck675 ( $71.80)
daveswins posts small blind (0.50)
vodanh posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hummer21 [ 3d, 3s ]
ccheaney folds.
buck675 raises (4) to 4
chevaro calls (4)
Hummer21 folds.
Ace2020 folds.
Claybo24 calls (4)
WillieWonka1 folds.
Randal01 calls (4)
daveswins calls (3.50)
vodanh calls (3)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, 3c, 5d ]
daveswins checks.
vodanh checks.
buck675 bets (6)
chevaro folds.
Claybo24 folds.
Randal01 calls (6)
daveswins folds.
vodanh calls (6)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kh ]
vodanh checks.
buck675 bets (6)
Randal01 calls (6)
vodanh folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ 2c ]
buck675 bets (6)
Randal01 calls (6)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $63 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 3h 3c 5d Kh 2c ]
chevaro balance $37.85, lost $4 (folded)
Hummer21 balance $53.05, didn't bet (folded)
Ace2020 balance $44.50, didn't bet (folded)
Claybo24 balance $40.35, lost $4 (folded)
WillieWonka1 balance $55.40, didn't bet (folded)
Randal01 balance $46.10, lost $22 [ 5c 7c ] [ two pairs, fives and threes -- Kh,5c,5d,3h,3c ]
daveswins balance $185.97, lost $4 (folded)
vodanh balance $39, lost $10 (folded)
ccheaney balance $49, didn't bet (folded)
buck675 balance $112.80, bet $22, collected $63, net +$41 [ Ac Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and threes -- Ac,Ad,Kh,3h,3c ]

[Matty]

PokerStars Game #329683851: Tournament #1124142, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI
(100/200) - 2004/03/11 - 16:55:55 (ET)
Table '1124142 6' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: PoetBaron (5590 in chips)
Seat 2: raising ray (3120 in chips)
Seat 3: 440z (165 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Cubbies0011 (1913 in chips)
Seat 5: Matty (7920 in chips)
Seat 6: Furlong (12489 in chips)
Seat 7: DJ VEGAS (11953 in chips)
Seat 8: setxraven (1620 in chips)
440z: posts small blind 100
Cubbies0011: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Matty [Ah Jc]
Matty: calls 200
Furlong: calls 200
DJ VEGAS: calls 200
setxraven: raises 1420 to 1620 and is all-in
PoetBaron: folds
raising ray: folds
440z: folds
Cubbies0011: folds
Matty: calls 1420
Furlong: calls 1420
DJ VEGAS: folds
*** FLOP *** [As 2c 5s]
Matty: bets 1000
Furlong: folds
*** TURN *** [As 2c 5s] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [As 2c 5s 8s] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Matty: shows [Ah Jc] (a pair of Aces)
setxraven: shows [8d Kd] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
setxraven collected 5360 from pot

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=237951
pokenum -h ah jc - 8d kd -- as 2c 5s
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing As 5s 2c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Jc Ah 959 96.87 15 1.52 16 1.62 0.977
Kd 8d 15 1.52 959 96.87 16 1.62 0.023

The knockout punch came a few hands later...

PokerStars Game #329700391: Tournament #1124142, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII
(100/200) - 2004/03/11 - 17:07:58 (ET)
Table '1124142 6' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: ILUV2MUCKU (35331 in chips)
Seat 2: raising ray (6815 in chips)
Seat 3: specs (4535 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Cubbies0011 (2426 in chips)
Seat 5: Matty (2655 in chips)
Seat 6: Furlong (8544 in chips)
Seat 7: DJ VEGAS (8440 in chips)
Seat 8: setxraven (10435 in chips)
Seat 9: goldmember23 (13605 in chips)
ILUV2MUCKU: posts the ante 25
raising ray: posts the ante 25
specs: posts the ante 25
Cubbies0011: posts the ante 25
Matty: posts the ante 25
Furlong: posts the ante 25
DJ VEGAS: posts the ante 25
setxraven: posts the ante 25
goldmember23: posts the ante 25
specs: posts small blind 100
Cubbies0011: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Matty [Ac As]
Matty: calls 200
Furlong: folds
DJ VEGAS: folds
setxraven: raises 200 to 400
goldmember23: folds
ILUV2MUCKU: folds
raising ray: folds
specs: folds
Cubbies0011: calls 200
Matty: raises 2230 to 2630 and is all-in
setxraven: calls 2230
Cubbies0011: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d Qs Td]
*** TURN *** [5d Qs Td] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [5d Qs Td 8d] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Matty: shows [Ac As] (a pair of Aces)
setxraven: shows [Kc Qh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
setxraven collected 5985 from pot

[Expunge]

Would you play this hand differently?

*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Game #338494374: Tournament #1208880, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2004/03/16 - 18:31:43 (ET)
Table '1208880 1' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: SP0NGE (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: BoonDock21 (1180 in chips)
Seat 3: D0N_Suave (2490 in chips)
Seat 4: HabaneroJoe (1100 in chips)
Seat 5: Sooki (1710 in chips)
Seat 6: dabean06513 (1320 in chips)
Seat 7: Tallftwtexan (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: DrunkenMasta (1340 in chips)
Seat 9: HITMAN200 (1360 in chips)
dabean06513: posts small blind 10
Tallftwtexan: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Kc Kd]
DrunkenMasta: calls 20
HITMAN200: folds
SP0NGE: raises 80 to 100
BoonDock21: folds
D0N_Suave: calls 100
HabaneroJoe: calls 100
Sooki: folds
dabean06513: folds
Tallftwtexan: folds
DrunkenMasta: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [4h Qs Jd]
DrunkenMasta: checks
SP0NGE: bets 600
D0N_Suave: folds
HabaneroJoe: calls 600
DrunkenMasta: folds
*** TURN *** [4h Qs Jd] [3s]
SP0NGE: bets 800 and is all-in
HabaneroJoe: calls 400 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [4h Qs Jd 3s] [6d]
SP0NGE said, "lol"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SP0NGE: shows [Kc Kd] (a pair of Kings)
HabaneroJoe: shows [3h 3c] (three of a kind, Threes)
HabaneroJoe collected 2430 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2430 | Rake 0
Board [4h Qs Jd 3s 6d]
Seat 1: SP0NGE showed [Kc Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: BoonDock21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: D0N_Suave folded on the Flop
Seat 4: HabaneroJoe showed [3h 3c] and won (2430) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 5: Sooki (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dabean06513 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Tallftwtexan (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: DrunkenMasta folded on the Flop
Seat 9: HITMAN200 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Triweasel]

I think you played it right, except for the part where you said 'lol'. :)

It looks like that guy overplayed his small pair and got lucky.

[Happy Extinction]

I would have played it the same

[FSAme]

never seen anything quite like this before, glad I was on the sideline
*********** # 11 **************
PokerStars Game #338781317: Tournament #1210111, Hold'em No Limit -
Level I (10/20) - 2004/03/16 - 21:21:19 (ET)
Table '1210111 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Dirtymick31 (1530 in chips)
Seat 2: RUNT (1390 in chips)
Seat 3: TWO STEP (1350 in chips)
Seat 4: Klügel (1310 in chips)
Seat 5: VeniVdVici (50 in chips)
Seat 6: wangsteved (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: I'm busy now (3390 in chips)
Seat 8: DblDownTrent (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: fc121 (1530 in chips)
I'm busy now: posts small blind 10
DblDownTrent: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DblDownTrent [Qc 6h]
fc121: calls 20
Dirtymick31: folds
RUNT: raises 80 to 100
TWO STEP: folds
Klügel: folds
VeniVdVici: calls 50 and is all-in
wangsteved: folds
I'm busy now: calls 90
DblDownTrent: folds
fc121: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Td Kc]
I'm busy now: checks
RUNT: checks
*** TURN *** [Kd Td Kc] [5s]
I'm busy now: checks
RUNT: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kd Td Kc 5s] [Ad]
I'm busy now: bets 120
RUNT: raises 180 to 300
I'm busy now: raises 2990 to 3290 and is all-in
RUNT: calls 990 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
I'm busy now: shows [Jd Qd] (a Royal Flush)
RUNT: shows [Kh Ks] (four of a kind, Kings)
I'm busy now collected 2680 from side pot
VeniVdVici: shows [As Js] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
VeniVdVici is sitting out
I'm busy now collected 190 from main pot
DblDownTrent said, "vvn"
Dirtymick31 said, "wow."
wangsteved said, "omg"


guess no hand is safe to slow play....

[foghorn]

My last good hand.

*********** # 83 **************
PokerStars Game #339103941: Tournament #1211120, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2004/03/16 - 23:57:55 (ET)
Table '1211120 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Jack6Russ (4330 in chips)
Seat 7: txtd (9170 in chips)
Jack6Russ: posts small blind 75
txtd: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to txtd [9d 6d]
Jack6Russ: calls 75
txtd: checks
*** FLOP *** [6s 6c 7h]
txtd: checks
Jack6Russ: checks
*** TURN *** [6s 6c 7h] [7c]
txtd: checks
Jack6Russ: checks
*** RIVER *** [6s 6c 7h 7c] [4c]
txtd: bets 1050
Jack6Russ: raises 3130 to 4180 and is all-in
txtd: calls 3130
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jack6Russ: shows [5c 8c] (a straight flush, Four to Eight)
txtd: shows [9d 6d] (a full house, Sixes full of Sevens)
Jack6Russ collected 8660 from pot
txtd said, "wow"
txtd said, "great hand"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8660 | Rake 0
Board [6s 6c 7h 7c 4c]
Seat 1: Jack6Russ (button) (small blind) showed [5c 8c] and won (8660) with a straight flush, Four to Eight
Seat 7: txtd (big blind) showed [9d 6d] and lost with a full house, Sixes full of Sevens

[Hummer]

Nope. With a Men's Whearhouse flop, I would have pressed hard too. Turn wouldn't appear to help either, and you are aready committed. Can't help the idiot call.

[Expunge]

I was think i could have pushed a slight bit more preflop, but that becomes harder to get away when an ace flops. I also could have just pushed allin on the flop in which case i still end up posting here.

Anyways had JJ cracked by 66 in a single last night by some one who claims they "were owed a fortunate break" lucky for me i was chip leader at the time. so i could survive it. a little while later i hit free straights on the river in back to back big blind hands.

Went on to win the tourney vs. Mr. Owed a Break.

[Expunge]

Transcript for game #343537411 requested by SP0NGE(littleriver@optonline.net)
*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Game #343537411: Tournament #1229327, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2004/03/19 - 20:13:01 (ET)
Table '1229327 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Justin55 (2210 in chips)
Seat 2: TONYBOCH (1200 in chips)
Seat 3: lill468 (1430 in chips)
Seat 4: Glennmiller (1410 in chips)
Seat 5: CrankMonkey (1760 in chips)
Seat 6: GramGram (1030 in chips)
Seat 7: milburnpro (1460 in chips)
Seat 8: SP0NGE (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: obanta (1500 in chips)
CrankMonkey: posts small blind 10
GramGram: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Qc Qs]
milburnpro: calls 20
SP0NGE: raises 120 to 140
obanta: folds
Justin55: folds
TONYBOCH: folds
lill468: folds
Glennmiller: folds
CrankMonkey: calls 130
GramGram: calls 120
milburnpro: folds
*** FLOP *** [5c 6d 2d]
CrankMonkey: checks
GramGram: bets 100
SP0NGE: raises 1260 to 1360 and is all-in
CrankMonkey: folds
GramGram: calls 790 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [5c 6d 2d] [Jh]
*** RIVER *** [5c 6d 2d Jh] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GramGram: shows [8d Jd] (three of a kind, Jacks)
SP0NGE: shows [Qc Qs] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
SP0NGE said, "lol"
GramGram collected 2220 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2220 | Rake 0
Board [5c 6d 2d Jh Jc]
Seat 1: Justin55 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: TONYBOCH folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: lill468 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Glennmiller (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: CrankMonkey (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: GramGram (big blind) showed [8d Jd] and won (2220) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 7: milburnpro folded before Flop
Seat 8: SP0NGE showed [Qc Qs] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 9: obanta folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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[USCanuck]

Here's a double bad beat I inflicted. I thought I was in good shape, then it didn't look good, and then I pulled a horseshoe out of my butt.


PokerStars Game #345445174: Tournament #1236975, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2004/03/20 - 21:32:28 (ET)
Table '1236975 2' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: RSDallas (4370 in chips)
Seat 2: mo123 (2440 in chips)
Seat 3: 544537 (1780 in chips)
Seat 4: Trivoli (4070 in chips)
Seat 5: Chiwanna (2500 in chips)
Seat 6: Goodskunk (2340 in chips)
Seat 7: ladyofspades (2810 in chips)
Seat 8: seemorecash (4690 in chips)
Seat 9: M Sullymaker (2000 in chips)
Chiwanna: posts small blind 50
Goodskunk: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RSDallas [Qc Qs]
ladyofspades: folds
seemorecash: calls 100
M Sullymaker: folds
RSDallas: raises 100 to 200
mo123: folds
544537: folds
Trivoli: calls 200
Chiwanna: folds
Goodskunk: calls 100
seemorecash: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [8c 3s 4s]
Goodskunk: checks
seemorecash: bets 800
RSDallas: raises 800 to 1600
Trivoli: raises 800 to 2400
Goodskunk: folds
seemorecash: raises 800 to 3200
RSDallas: calls 1600
Trivoli: raises 670 to 3870 and is all-in
seemorecash: calls 670
RSDallas: calls 670
*** TURN *** [8c 3s 4s] [2s]
seemorecash: bets 100
RSDallas: raises 100 to 200
seemorecash: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [8c 3s 4s 2s] [7s]
seemorecash: checks
RSDallas: bets 100 and is all-in
seemorecash: calls 100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RSDallas: shows [Qc Qs] (a flush, Queen high)
seemorecash: shows [4d 4c] (three of a kind, Fours)
RSDallas collected 600 from side pot
Trivoli: shows [8s 8h] (a flush, Eight high)
RSDallas collected 12460 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13060 Main pot 12460. Side pot 600. | Rake 0
Board [8c 3s 4s 2s 7s]
Seat 1: RSDallas showed [Qc Qs] and won (13060) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 2: mo123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 544537 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Trivoli (button) showed [8s 8h] and lost with a flush, Eight high
Seat 5: Chiwanna (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Goodskunk (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: ladyofspades folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: seemorecash showed [4d 4c] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 9: M Sullymaker folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Expunge]

*********** # 36 **************
PokerStars Game #345579256: Tournament #1237534, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2004/03/20 - 22:51:26 (ET)
Table '1237534 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: chriss928 (2235 in chips)
Seat 3: yotekiller (4020 in chips)
Seat 5: SP0NGE (645 in chips)
Seat 8: RivahQueen (1475 in chips)
Seat 9: Devilish1 (5125 in chips)
Devilish1: posts small blind 50
chriss928: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Js As]
yotekiller: calls 100
SP0NGE: raises 545 to 645 and is all-in
RivahQueen: folds
Devilish1: folds
chriss928: folds
yotekiller: calls 545
*** FLOP *** [6d 7d 8d]
SP0NGE said, "lol"
*** TURN *** [6d 7d 8d] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [6d 7d 8d Qs] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
yotekiller: shows [7s 5s] (a pair of Sevens)
SP0NGE: shows [Js As] (high card Ace)
yotekiller collected 1440 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1440 | Rake 0
Board [6d 7d 8d Qs 3h]
Seat 1: chriss928 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: yotekiller showed [7s 5s] and won (1440) with a pair of Sevens
Seat 5: SP0NGE showed [Js As] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 8: RivahQueen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Devilish1 (small blind) folded before Flop

[Expunge]

$3+ rebuys, i understand i'll get some bad calls, but really come on!
This ticks me off so much i think i would be on tilt, so i didn't even rebuy.

Transcript for game #369234917 requested by SP0NGE(littleriver@optonline.net)
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PokerStars Game #369234917: Tournament #1281732, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2004/04/03 - 21:15:17 (ET)
Table '1281732 94' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: brettjw (3160 in chips)
Seat 2: InSanePlayer (2600 in chips)
Seat 3: SP0NGE (2660 in chips)
Seat 4: fitzpat (1680 in chips)
Seat 5: Loki Dawg (10900 in chips)
Seat 6: BENDA (3070 in chips)
Seat 7: jfddds (2850 in chips)
Seat 8: DeWy22 (2200 in chips)
Seat 9: ghwhite (2890 in chips)
DeWy22: posts small blind 15
ghwhite: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Kh Kd]
brettjw: calls 30
InSanePlayer: folds
SP0NGE: raises 130 to 160
fitzpat: calls 160
Loki Dawg: calls 160
BENDA: folds
jfddds: folds
DeWy22: folds
ghwhite: calls 130
brettjw: calls 130
*** FLOP *** [7h 9h Jc]
ghwhite: checks
brettjw: checks
SP0NGE: bets 2500 and is all-in
fitzpat: folds
Loki Dawg: folds
ghwhite: raises 230 to 2730 and is all-in
brettjw: folds
*** TURN *** [7h 9h Jc] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [7h 9h Jc Ts] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ghwhite: shows [Qd Ks] (a straight, Nine to King)
SP0NGE: shows [Kh Kd] (a pair of Kings)
SP0NGE said, "unreal"
ghwhite collected 5815 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5815 | Rake 0
Board [7h 9h Jc Ts 3s]
Seat 1: brettjw folded on the Flop
Seat 2: InSanePlayer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: SP0NGE showed [Kh Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: fitzpat folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Loki Dawg folded on the Flop
Seat 6: BENDA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jfddds (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DeWy22 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: ghwhite (big blind) showed [Qd Ks] and won (5815) with a straight, Nine to King

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[FSAme]

$3+ rebuys, i understand i'll get some bad calls, but really come on!
This ticks me off so much i think i would be on tilt, so i didn't even rebuy.

Transcript for game #369234917 requested by SP0NGE(littleriver@optonline.net)
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PokerStars Game #369234917: Tournament #1281732, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2004/04/03 - 21:15:17 (ET)
Table '1281732 94' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: brettjw (3160 in chips)
Seat 2: InSanePlayer (2600 in chips)
Seat 3: SP0NGE (2660 in chips)
Seat 4: fitzpat (1680 in chips)
Seat 5: Loki Dawg (10900 in chips)
Seat 6: BENDA (3070 in chips)
Seat 7: jfddds (2850 in chips)
Seat 8: DeWy22 (2200 in chips)
Seat 9: ghwhite (2890 in chips)
DeWy22: posts small blind 15
ghwhite: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Kh Kd]
brettjw: calls 30
InSanePlayer: folds
SP0NGE: raises 130 to 160
fitzpat: calls 160
Loki Dawg: calls 160
BENDA: folds
jfddds: folds
DeWy22: folds
ghwhite: calls 130
brettjw: calls 130
*** FLOP *** [7h 9h Jc]
ghwhite: checks
brettjw: checks
SP0NGE: bets 2500 and is all-in
fitzpat: folds
Loki Dawg: folds
ghwhite: raises 230 to 2730 and is all-in
brettjw: folds
*** TURN *** [7h 9h Jc] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [7h 9h Jc Ts] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ghwhite: shows [Qd Ks] (a straight, Nine to King)
SP0NGE: shows [Kh Kd] (a pair of Kings)
SP0NGE said, "unreal"
ghwhite collected 5815 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5815 | Rake 0
Board [7h 9h Jc Ts 3s]
Seat 1: brettjw folded on the Flop
Seat 2: InSanePlayer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: SP0NGE showed [Kh Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: fitzpat folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Loki Dawg folded on the Flop
Seat 6: BENDA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jfddds (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DeWy22 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: ghwhite (big blind) showed [Qd Ks] and won (5815) with a straight, Nine to King

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To be honest with you, I'd probably make that call during a $3 rebuy period. Inside straight draw that'll double me up, or cost me $3, I'd probably do it.

[Castle7]

Okay, this one put me on tilt in a 4-8 HoldEm game this weekend, but I did have the good sense to get up and take a half hour walk after words (I still ended up down 23 bucks in a 7 hour session, but all things considered, I think I played well) Anyway!

I am UTG + 3 with AA, I make it 8, the guy on my left calls, BB calls, everyone else folds. Flop comes AT7, I bet really fast trying to make it look like a steal/bluff, the guy on my left calls, the BB folds. Turn is a 3, I bet, get called. River is an 8. So the Board is AT738. I bet, and get raised! I'm looking at it, no flush possible, the only way that 8 helps him beat me is if he called me down with J9 on a gut shot straight - I decided this was not likely, more than likely he was slow playing a lower set. So I reraise, and get reraised - so I call, and sure enough, I lost to J9o GRRR!

That guy, turns out, was a totally calling station, and had the best short term luck I have ever seen, the guy won 400 bucks in about two hours, and then left - kept flopping two pair after capped preflop betting with Q3 or J4 or something similarly ridiculous. -This guy even won a live straddle hand (his straddle) where he called it all the way to the river with 32, where the flop came QJ3, turn 5, river 3....(fortunately I was not involved!) Okay, I had to get that off my chest - I feel better.

[Expunge]

To be honest with you, I'd probably make that call during a $3 rebuy period. Inside straight draw that'll double me up, or cost me $3, I'd probably do it.

really? you'll take a 14% chance, with a cost of $6 to just double up?

Yes $6, your $3 only gets you half the chips, you need to double buy to get back to 3k.

Maybe thats why i usually go so far with just a single buy in these events.

[Expunge]

not that gett AA cracked really mattered in this case

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PokerStars Game #372704778: Tournament #1347223, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2004/04/05 - 22:14:13 (ET)
Table '1347223 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Kovak04 (1400 in chips)
Seat 2: ANGELGIRL#1 (1430 in chips)
Seat 3: SP0NGE (1440 in chips)
Seat 4: kevinator (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: Galifax (1130 in chips)
Seat 7: kids (2500 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevmath (1840 in chips)
Seat 9: DeepSeated (2290 in chips)
DeepSeated: posts small blind 15
Kovak04: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Jc Js]
ANGELGIRL#1: raises 120 to 150
SP0NGE: raises 1290 to 1440 and is all-in
kevinator: folds
Galifax: folds
kids: folds
Kevmath: folds
DeepSeated: folds
Kovak04: folds
ANGELGIRL#1: calls 1280 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [7d 5c 7c]
*** TURN *** [7d 5c 7c] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [7d 5c 7c Qs] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ANGELGIRL#1: shows [Ah Qc] (two pair, Queens and Sevens)
SP0NGE: shows [Jc Js] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
ANGELGIRL#1 collected 2905 from pot
SP0NGE said, "gg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2905 | Rake 0
Board [7d 5c 7c Qs 2c]
Seat 1: Kovak04 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ANGELGIRL#1 showed [Ah Qc] and won (2905) with two pair, Queens and Sevens
Seat 3: SP0NGE showed [Jc Js] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 4: kevinator folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Galifax folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kids folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Kevmath (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: DeepSeated (small blind) folded before Flop

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PokerStars Game #372706168: Tournament #1347223, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2004/04/05 - 22:14:57 (ET)
Table '1347223 1' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Kovak04 (1370 in chips)
Seat 2: ANGELGIRL#1 (2905 in chips)
Seat 3: SP0NGE (10 in chips)
Seat 4: kevinator (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: Galifax (1130 in chips)
Seat 7: kids (2500 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevmath (1840 in chips)
Seat 9: DeepSeated (2275 in chips)
Kovak04: posts small blind 15
ANGELGIRL#1: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Js 7s]
SP0NGE: folds
kevinator: raises 90 to 120
Galifax: folds
kids: folds
Kevmath: folds
DeepSeated: folds
Kovak04: folds
ANGELGIRL#1: folds
kevinator collected 75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 75 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Kovak04 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ANGELGIRL#1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: SP0NGE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: kevinator collected (75)
Seat 5: Galifax folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kids folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Kevmath folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: DeepSeated (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 9 **************
PokerStars Game #372707015: Tournament #1347223, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2004/04/05 - 22:15:20 (ET)
Table '1347223 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Kovak04 (1355 in chips)
Seat 2: ANGELGIRL#1 (2875 in chips)
Seat 3: SP0NGE (10 in chips)
Seat 4: kevinator (1515 in chips)
Seat 5: Galifax (1130 in chips)
Seat 7: kids (2500 in chips)
Seat 8: Kevmath (1840 in chips)
Seat 9: DeepSeated (2275 in chips)
ANGELGIRL#1: posts small blind 15
SP0NGE: posts big blind 10 and is all-in
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SP0NGE [Ad Ah]
kevinator: folds
Galifax: raises 105 to 120
kids: calls 120
Kevmath: folds
DeepSeated: folds
Kovak04: folds
ANGELGIRL#1: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc 9c 2c]
Galifax: bets 180
kids: folds
SP0NGE said, "check this timing out"
*** TURN *** [Tc 9c 2c] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 9c 2c 8s] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Galifax: shows [As Qd] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
SP0NGE said, "lol"
Kovak04 said, "wow"
Galifax collected 225 from side pot
SP0NGE: shows [Ad Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Galifax collected 40 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 265 Main pot 40. Side pot 225. | Rake 0
Board [Tc 9c 2c 8s Jc]
Seat 1: Kovak04 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ANGELGIRL#1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: SP0NGE (big blind) showed [Ad Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: kevinator folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Galifax showed [As Qd] and won (265) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 7: kids folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Kevmath folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: DeepSeated folded before Flop (didn't bet)