Do the words 'mad' 'bad' and 'glad' rhyme with 'dad'?

[MountainHawk]

See poll.

[IKnewIt]

How is "dad" pronounced in the non-rhyming-with-the-others way?

[soyleche]

How is "dad" pronounced in the non-rhyming-with-the-others way?

"Father"

Or, possibly "Pop"

[MountainHawk]

How is "dad" pronounced in the non-rhyming-with-the-others way?
The other three words are the ones that are said differently, but I've recently learned this may be a very regional dialect.

dad, pad, fad, sad, cad, chad all rhyme.

But for me, bad, mad, and glad do not rhyme with the above, instead rhyming with each other. They are said with the 'a' as in 'fan'.

[Arthur Kade]

Some people like "old man"

[The President]

mawd, glawd, bawd, dad
mad, glad, bad, dawd.

[erosewater]

is this some kind of PA accent thing? all those words sound the same to me

[Arthur Kade]

The other three words are the ones that are said differently, but I've recently learned this may be a very regional dialect.

dad, pad, fad, sad, cad, chad all rhyme.

But for me, bad, mad, and glad do not rhyme with the above, instead rhyming with each other. They are said with the 'a' as in 'fan'.

How is the 'a' in fan different from the 'a' in fad?

[The President]

How is the 'a' in fan different from the 'a' in fad?
More like a long A followed by a short e? FAen?

[Pseudolus]

But for me, bad, mad, and glad do not rhyme with the above, instead rhyming with each other. They are said with the 'a' as in 'fan'.

I can imagine, for instance, a really strong Jersey accent wherein "bad" has an "ah-yah" kind of vowel similar to "fan". But, with that accent, I would think dad/fad/pad/etc. would also include that same sound.

In conclusion, you talk funny.

[MountainHawk]

How is the 'a' in fan different from the 'a' in fad?
The a in fad is 'harder' or something.

[MountainHawk]

I can imagine, for instance, a really strong Jersey accent wherein "bad" has an "ah-yah" kind of vowel similar to "fan". But, with that accent, I would think dad/fad/pad/etc. would also include that same sound.

In conclusion, you talk funny.
But at least I don't hallucinate r's when they aren't there and ignore them where they are.

[Pseudolus]

That not Jersey, that's Boston.

[ElDucky]

I can't really think of way in which they don't rhyme. British perhaps, if you say it weird.

[MountainHawk]

That not Jersey, that's Boston.
I know that ... I was mocking the accent around here as worse than mine.

[IKnewIt]

The other three words are the ones that are said differently, but I've recently learned this may be a very regional dialect.

dad, pad, fad, sad, cad, chad all rhyme.

But for me, bad, mad, and glad do not rhyme with the above, instead rhyming with each other. They are said with the 'a' as in 'fan'.

Interesting. I would have thought if you were going to pronounce "bad", "mad", and "glad" wrong, you'd pronounce "dad" wrong too. By the way, looks like you're in the minority :lol:

[MountainHawk]

Interesting. I would have thought if you were going to pronounce "bad", "mad", and "glad" wrong, you'd pronounce "dad" wrong too. By the way, looks like you're in the minority :lol:
Yeah, apparently this is only the case if you grow up in the PA suburbs of Philly as far as I can tell.

[sassafras]

I can imagine, for instance, a really strong Jersey accent wherein "bad" has an "ah-yah" kind of vowel similar to "fan". But, with that accent, I would think dad/fad/pad/etc. would also include that same sound.

In conclusion, you talk funny.

Are you sure that's not a Brooklyn accent? So much of what people think is the "Jersey" accent is really the NY suburb "immigrants".

[MountainHawk]

Hah ... it's even got a Wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_English_short_A#Bad.E2.80. 93lad_split

[erosewater]

Are you sure that's not a Brooklyn accent? So much of what people think is the "Jersey" accent is really the NY suburb "immigrants".

I come from Brooklyn! I have Brooklyn accent, OK?!?!

[sassafras]

I come from Brooklyn! I have Brooklyn accent, OK?!?!

Yeah! OK!

[Harry]

Yeah, apparently this is only the case if you grow up in the PA suburbs of Philly as far as I can tell.
I'm with you, and not from that area.

[MountainHawk]

I'm with you, and not from that area.
Excellent ... at least I'm not alone.

[nottom]

To me there is a very slight difference in how dad is pronounce versus the others, but I would still put it within the margin of error for rhyming.

Its like the difference between "add" (rhymes with sad, bad, glad) and the "ad" in advertise (dad). Then again, maybe most people pronounce those the same as well

[Harry]

It's similar to those weirdos that think Mary, marry and merry all sound the same.

[llcooljabe]

It's similar to those weirdos that think Mary, marry and merry all sound the same.

:swear: I was just searching for the thread I posted around the time I moved to NY, where people here insist that they don't sound the same (They do!)

[llcooljabe]

http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actuarial_discussion_forum/showthread.php?t=104008

Must have imagined that thread...was thinking of this thread.

[Harry]

http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actuarial_discussion_forum/showthread.php?t=104008

Must have imagined that thread...was thinking of this thread.
Good times...

[FormLetter]

How is the 'a' in fan different from the 'a' in fad?

Now that I seem insane sitting at my computer saying the word "fan" out loud 15 times, I think the 'a' in fan seems more "front-loaded", whereas the 'a' in fad seems more "back-loaded".

[Entropy]

Even though they sound a little different, do they not still rhyme?

ETA: This is not in response to Form Letter.

[MountainHawk]

They would be half rhymes, I think.

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Let's go to the ultimate authority:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2419/2190404249_cbe6ae1685.jpg

[Quasi]

Where I grew up they all rhyme.....they also are all 2 syllable words.

[r. mutt]

Some of them rhyme with 'dangerous to know'.

[Happy Skunk]

Let's go to the ultimate authority:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2419/2190404249_cbe6ae1685.jpg


That Dad needs to stop being a pussy AD

[Androzani Major]

I suppose I've heard some thick-accented nor'easterners pronounce mad, bad and glad as "mee-yad", "bee-yad", etc.