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asdfasdf
06-03-2012, 09:31 PM
Compared to caucasians, sub-continental Indians, and Africans, Asians grow much less facial hair. What is the actual physological, and evolutionary cause of that? Google hasn't been able to get me above finding the discussion in other forums, and I trust you guys more than other forums so I need your help to get actual factual information here.

asdfasdf
06-03-2012, 09:32 PM
Oh, and I know I know "that's racist", but, it's actual just a fact that I'm trying to better understand the reason behind.

Colonel Smoothie
06-03-2012, 09:34 PM
I sorta have facial hair. I used to be able to get away with shaving once a week, but ever since I started exercising more heavily I've had to shave my face like every 3 days.

Pseudolus
06-03-2012, 09:34 PM
Asians invented noodles. Long beards would get tangled in the noodles and wind up choking the bearded person to death. So the "beard" gene was selected against.

Asians invented fireworks. Same argument.

QED^2

Colonel Smoothie
06-03-2012, 09:35 PM
Which is weird, because I, along with most other east Asians have plenty of hair everywhere else just like everyone else.

Colonel Smoothie
06-03-2012, 09:36 PM
Asians invented noodles. Long beards would get tangled in the noodles and wind up choking the bearded person to death. So the "beard" gene was selected against.

Asians invented fireworks. Same argument.

QED^2

Actually, I think most Asians have the ability to grow a goatee, it's the sides of the face and neck that are deficient.

Baby, ByeBye
06-03-2012, 09:40 PM
I have ok facial hair. Not a full blown beard. I'd rather not have facial hair. Hate shaving

Dismal Science
06-03-2012, 09:42 PM
In before Asians aren't as manly.

Colonel Smoothie
06-03-2012, 09:42 PM
Hmmm that gives me an idea. The next time Slate runs its "question of the year" article from the Explainer column, ask "why don't Asians have facial hair?"

We can start a campaign to make that the question of the year.

Devastator
06-03-2012, 09:43 PM
I would give anything to be able to grow mutton chops

Klaymen
06-03-2012, 09:52 PM
I'm not asian and am unable to manage anything other than a pathetic goatee, which I don't. On the plus side, shaving takes no time at all and only occurs 2x/week. Plus it makes you look young.

George L. Costanza
06-03-2012, 09:56 PM
Feather Indians don't do much facial hair either. Do Africans grow much facial hair? Could it just be a European thing?

Guerilla poster
06-03-2012, 09:57 PM
Is it just the men?

Brock
06-03-2012, 10:01 PM
Feather Indians don't do much facial hair either. Do Africans grow much facial hair? Could it just be a European thing?

-10 man points, Fool.

http://www.caribpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Mr-T.jpg

Baby, ByeBye
06-03-2012, 10:35 PM
In before Asians aren't as manly.

Do girls even like beards. I'd imagine making out quite annoying

Smart Actuary
06-03-2012, 10:44 PM
A lot of white guys are also not able to grow facial hair.

I wish that I did not grow back a 5pm stubble, same day I shaved in the AM. I hate how fast my beard grows.

ElDucky
06-03-2012, 11:44 PM
Because Asian women don't have tits. Ying Yang.

George L. Costanza
06-04-2012, 12:43 AM
-10 man points, Fool.

http://www.caribpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Mr-T.jpg


I'm assuming most African Americans have some European blood mixed in. That's why I specifically mentioned Africans.

That may be a terrible assumption though.

Dismal Science
06-04-2012, 01:04 AM
Because Asian women don't have tits. Ying Yang.

lolwut?

Dismal Science
06-04-2012, 01:06 AM
Do girls even like beards. I'd imagine making out quite annoying

You know who has a beard? Chuck fooking Norris.

/thread

campbell
06-04-2012, 06:32 AM
Do girls even like beards. I'd imagine making out quite annoying

I like beards. If a beard is well-groomed (and wasn't recently clipped), it's not that scratchy. It's definitely less scratchy than stubble.

But yes, lots of women don't like facial hair.

bokiz333
06-04-2012, 08:30 AM
I have facial hair...just a few days growth that I keep that lenght with a trimmer. I don't do it for looks, I do it for lazyness. That way I don't have to shave all the time...and if I'm late for work I can skip shaving that day because that difference is less noticable than if I'm clean shaven but don't shave the next day.

And yes I have been called the laziest man alive by more than one person. I like to think of my self as "efficient" instead. And lazy, oh so very lazy.

Jack
06-04-2012, 08:53 AM
That's not true, Look at the pictures from Afganistan, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. All those guys have pretty heavy beards. Lot's of guys from India and Pakistan. have beards as well. I think the OPs premise is just wrong. I'd argue a good percentage of Asians actually have thicker beards than Americans.

Incredible Hulctuary
06-04-2012, 09:01 AM
Feather Indians don't do much facial hair either. Do Africans grow much facial hair? Could it just be a European thing?

http://asset3.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20091103/Kimob1.jpg

Dismal Science
06-04-2012, 09:15 AM
That's not true, Look at the pictures from Afganistan, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. All those guys have pretty heavy beards. Lot's of guys from India and Pakistan. have beards as well. I think the OPs premise is just wrong. I'd argue a good percentage of Asians actually have thicker beards than Americans.

When people say "Asian" most people don't think of the Indian sub-continent - they think Far East. Ditto for Afghanistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Many people think of Turkey as part of Europe. Hell, there was some talk about them potentially joining the European Union a while back.

Guerilla poster
06-04-2012, 09:17 AM
When people say "Asian" most people don't think of the Indian sub-continent - they think Far East. Ditto for Afghanistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia.



In America, at least. It confuses me some when I am in London, and they call Pakistanis and Indians, Asian, and I keep looking for the Chinaman.

JasonScandopolous
06-04-2012, 09:23 AM
That's not true, Look at the pictures from Afganistan, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. All those guys have pretty heavy beards. Lot's of guys from India and Pakistan. have beards as well. I think the OPs premise is just wrong. I'd argue a good percentage of Asians actually have thicker beards than Americans.

By asians he means the easterly folk: china, korea, japan, philippines. vietnam/laos/cambodia/thailand/myanmar

Jack
06-04-2012, 09:25 AM
When people say "Asian" most people don't think of the Indian sub-continent - they think Far East. Ditto for Afghanistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Many people think of Turkey as part of Europe. Hell, there was some talk about them potentially joining the European Union a while back.

They think wrong then. India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia are Asian countries. It's not the least bit ambiguous they're in Asia. Much of Turkey is in Asia.

Loner
06-04-2012, 09:29 AM
Which is weird, because I, along with most other east Asians have plenty of hair everywhere else just like everyone else.

?
Most asians I know have markedly less body hair. Are they all waxing their chests?

Colonel Smoothie
06-04-2012, 09:39 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/NSRW_-_Asiatic_Types_-_Ainu_of_Japan.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Bjs48_02_Ainu.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people

phoebe
06-04-2012, 09:51 AM
Do girls even like beards. I'd imagine making out quite annoyingBeards can be fun. And sexy. Some women like them, others don't. I like them.

I have facial hair...just a few days growth that I keep that lenght with a trimmer. I don't do it for looks, I do it for lazyness. That way I don't have to shave all the time...and if I'm late for work I can skip shaving that day because that difference is less noticable than if I'm clean shaven but don't shave the next day.

And yes I have been called the laziest man alive by more than one person. I like to think of my self as "efficient" instead. And lazy, oh so very lazy.Yeah, that's not fun. That's scratchy and nasty.

Loner
06-04-2012, 09:53 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/NSRW_-_Asiatic_Types_-_Ainu_of_Japan.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Bjs48_02_Ainu.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people

So the Japanese and Chines killed off the hairy dudes?

asdfasdf
06-04-2012, 09:54 AM
That's not true, Look at the pictures from Afganistan, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. All those guys have pretty heavy beards. Lot's of guys from India and Pakistan. have beards as well. I think the OPs premise is just wrong. I'd argue a good percentage of Asians actually have thicker beards than Americans.

:lol: ok, I'll use the term Mongoloid then, why do Mongoloids grow less facial hair then caucasians?

asdfasdf
06-04-2012, 09:55 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/NSRW_-_Asiatic_Types_-_Ainu_of_Japan.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Bjs48_02_Ainu.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people)

That doesn't really say much, except that the Ainu aren't Mongoloids.

Colonel Smoothie
06-04-2012, 10:04 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e9/Uyghur_Gentleman.jpg/600px-Uyghur_Gentleman.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people

asdfasdf
06-04-2012, 10:07 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e9/Uyghur_Gentleman.jpg/600px-Uyghur_Gentleman.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people

Another group of non mongoloids who lives in Asia.

asdfasdf
06-04-2012, 10:08 AM
Let's narrow this down, why can't;

Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, Laotion, or Myanmarese people grow beards?

Colonel Smoothie
06-04-2012, 10:14 AM
you mean Han Chinese, in particular?

Baby, ByeBye
06-04-2012, 10:19 AM
Confucius and mencius and Lao Tzu all had prominent beards.

yoyo
06-04-2012, 10:59 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SjtJRgVy-78/Tz7WCeYXJkI/AAAAAAAABfk/6ewtZn--RDU/s1600/joe_dirt_640.jpg

actuwannabemtl
06-04-2012, 11:07 AM
Feather Indians don't do much facial hair either. Do Africans grow much facial hair? Could it just be a European thing?

Among black africans things vary.
In my own experience, those black africans who are somewhat related to the pygmies are quite hairy. Beards are thick and body hair is very present. There are other varieties of black africans who are on the other hand very hairless. A lot of Senegelese people are like that. It varies.

Among asians, I believe that the Ainu aboriginals from northern Japan are very hairy and grow heavy beards. They must have relatives elsewhere in east-asia, so the ability to grow thick beards must be found here and there though it's probably not very common.

I've never heard of even one "feather" (lol) indian group in which beards were common.

actuwannabemtl
06-04-2012, 11:12 AM
That's not true, Look at the pictures from Afganistan, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. All those guys have pretty heavy beards. Lot's of guys from India and Pakistan. have beards as well. I think the OPs premise is just wrong. I'd argue a good percentage of Asians actually have thicker beards than Americans.

Outside of the UK, asian means "east-asian" like the Chinese. It does include south-east asians like the philipinos but most people in north-america have the chinese, koreans and japanese in mind when they say asian.

You make a good point about the area from turkey to north india through Mesopotamia. They probably grow the heaviest beards of all but they're not commonly thought of as asians. In population genetics those folks are usually lumped in with europeans into a category called "west eurasian".

actuwannabemtl
06-04-2012, 11:15 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e9/Uyghur_Gentleman.jpg/600px-Uyghur_Gentleman.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people

Uyghurs are pretty much a half east-asian/ half west-eurasian mix.

actuwannabemtl
06-04-2012, 11:24 AM
They think wrong then. India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia are Asian countries. It's not the least bit ambiguous they're in Asia. Much of Turkey is in Asia.

If someone told you that they loved african music and that you had the choice of buying them a ticket to either a Congolese concert or a concert of Kabyle music from Algeria, you'd just flip a coin, cause it's all "african music" to you ? Come on.

ORLYLOL
06-04-2012, 11:52 AM
African:

http://static.stuff.co.nz/1189598400/518/90518.jpg

African:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/09/article-1241879-07CE7693000005DC-610_468x327.jpg

OMG they look the same!

Baby, ByeBye
06-04-2012, 11:57 AM
African:

http://static.stuff.co.nz/1189598400/518/90518.jpg

African:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/09/article-1241879-07CE7693000005DC-610_468x327.jpg

OMG they look the same!

They do actually

trondogss
06-04-2012, 12:00 PM
This dude is chinese:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qA_CcgyVYq8/Tglx6IdVsdI/AAAAAAAABwA/oAoaDEP1K7c/s1600/mamasboyne0.png

ORLYLOL
06-04-2012, 12:01 PM
He has facial hair so he can't be.

:judge:

trondogss
06-04-2012, 12:03 PM
This guy is labled being from China:
http://images.inmagine.com/400nwm/iris/stockconnection-083/ptg01625405.jpg
This one Japan:
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Jun/Week3/15651372.jpg
Korean:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2h2nu0eyWYw/St_KjTBTgZI/AAAAAAAAv5A/BKncyrVG1ko/s400/park+chan+ho

Dismal Science
06-04-2012, 12:13 PM
Are you people idiots? Posting pictures of outliers isn't an argument.

actuwannabemtl
06-04-2012, 12:36 PM
Are you people idiots? Posting pictures of outliers isn't an argument.

It was established earlier in the thread that azns could grow goatees just fine so the chinese guy isn't even an outlier. We also mentionned the Ainu so that could explain the japanese guy :)

Is anyone familar with Taiwanese aboriginals ? Can they grow thick beards like the Ainu ? I think anthropologists consider the Ainu and the taiwan aboriginals to be closely related.

asdfasdf
06-04-2012, 12:40 PM
Compared to caucasians, sub-continental Indians, and Africans, Asians grow much less facial hair. What is the actual physological, and evolutionary cause of that? Google hasn't been able to get me above finding the discussion in other forums, and I trust you guys more than other forums so I need your help to get actual factual information here.

Yes some Mongoloids grow facial hair, but the generally grow less.

My goal was not to debate that well established fact, but to look a bit deeper at the cause.

bananadotcom
06-04-2012, 12:44 PM
Only having to shave every 10 days is great.

Dismal Science
06-04-2012, 12:58 PM
My goal was not to debate that well established fact, but to look a bit deeper at the cause.

Next time don't ask this to a forum filled with people with Aspergers - then you might have a better shot at some reasonable discussion.

actuwannabemtl
06-04-2012, 01:00 PM
Yes some Mongoloids grow facial hair, but the generally grow less.

My goal was not to debate that well established fact, but to look a bit deeper at the cause.

Suggestion: the lack of ability to grow much facial hair is much more noticeable among native indians than among east-asians. Maybe the phenomenon has been explained in the case of natives. From natives you can somehow extrapolate to east-asians since that's the major human race that they're most closely related to.

asdfasdf
06-04-2012, 01:02 PM
Next time don't ask this to a forum filled with people with Aspergers - then you might have a better shot at some reasonable discussion.

Perhaps Asians are so uptight and defensive about their lesser degree of facial hair that the stress caused prevents them from growing facial hair.

There is a theory it's related to testosterone levels, but, I've seen plenty of bald Asians, and baldness comes due to higher testosterone, so that doesn't seem to pass the smell test as the casual factor.

Dismal Science
06-04-2012, 01:02 PM
Why do Asian men and women look the most similar of any race?

Dismal Science
06-04-2012, 01:03 PM
Why do Asian men like anime, tentacle porn?

Jack
06-04-2012, 01:04 PM
Why do Asian men and women look the most similar of any race?

Are you arguing that Asian men look like women?

Baby, ByeBye
06-04-2012, 01:07 PM
Perhaps Asians are so uptight and defensive about their lesser degree of facial hair that the stress caused prevents them from growing facial hair.

There is a theory it's related to testosterone levels, but, I've seen plenty of bald Asians, and baldness comes due to higher testosterone, so that doesn't seem to pass the smell test as the casual factor.

I think white people bald more easily

JasonScandopolous
06-04-2012, 01:18 PM
I think white people bald more easily

Baldness genes are usually expressed upon receiving androgenic impulses; the androgen usually at blame is DHT (di-hydro-testosterone) rather than T itself; the two are correlated with but not necessarily in tandem with each other.

phoebe
06-04-2012, 01:41 PM
Yes some Mongoloids grow facial hair, but the generally grow less.

My goal was not to debate that well established fact, but to look a bit deeper at the cause.I'll take "random genetic drift" for $10.

Gonzo
06-04-2012, 02:32 PM
In before Asians aren't as manly.

could be asians are more civilized

Gonzo
06-04-2012, 02:34 PM
Because Asian women don't have tits. Ying Yang.

you are not experienced

Dismal Science
06-04-2012, 04:00 PM
could be asians are more civilized

I stopped believing that when I learned about the rape of Nanking.

Dismal Science
06-04-2012, 04:06 PM
I think white people bald more easily

This is also what I have observed.

ORLYLOL
06-04-2012, 04:12 PM
I heard white people can't jump either.

Hero3128
06-04-2012, 04:43 PM
I could do without my facial hair. I'd look like a hobo if I grew a beard.

Smart Actuary
06-04-2012, 04:46 PM
Why cant asian men grow?

erosewater
06-04-2012, 04:51 PM
I like when the Asian dudes have a goatee with like 4 hairs that each about 3 inches long

Snagus
06-04-2012, 04:53 PM
I like when the Asian dudes have a goatse with like 4 hairs that each about 3 inches long

That's nice.

truonda
06-04-2012, 05:04 PM
Actually, I think most Asians have the ability to grow a goatee, it's the sides of the face and neck that are deficient.

I agree. I can grow a goatee now problem but what I really want is a 5 o'clock shadow.

Jack
06-04-2012, 05:05 PM
I agree. I can grow a goatee now problem but what I really want is a 5 o'clock shadow.

Good God why?

I have 5 o'clock shadow, what's so great about having to shave a second time if you need to go out somewhere?

truonda
06-04-2012, 06:02 PM
Maybe because I don't mind shaving. Of course I say that now hahah..