View Full Version : Suicide Mission on Bin Laden - Internal Fortitude
Guerilla poster
09-20-2001, 11:34 AM
I have seen the discussion on whether you would kill Bin Laden. However, a better question is:
Would any of you be willing to participate in a suicide mission on Bin Laden? Let's assume that you would know this mission would put a serious dent in the terrorist structure around the world.
I for one would do it.
Next question: Would you be willing to have your son die in a suicide mission?
Anonymous
09-20-2001, 12:26 PM
d*mn that's hardcore. Fight fire with fire I guess.
Guerilla poster
09-20-2001, 12:38 PM
I think alot of people in our grandparents generation would have answered a resounding 'yes' if the same question was asked of Hitler during WWII - and he did not directly attack America.
Traci
09-20-2001, 02:30 PM
If I was certain that the mission would take him out - yes I think I would do it.
Would I send my kid? No - I would want someone else's kid to do it.
Do I get any points for honesty?
Guerilla poster
09-20-2001, 02:38 PM
I know the question is harsh but I want people to understand the resolution needed to fight this war on terrorism. We knew that there would be large casualties on D-Day and we were willing to accept that as a nation to fight the evil Hitler empire. Do we have the internal fortitude to stick this out and hopefully stop any future atrocities against this nation?
Thanks for honesty - Traci.
Anonymous
09-20-2001, 03:52 PM
Would you really do it Guerilla? That seems hard to believe. There's no way I would do that, things aren't that bad.
Guerilla poster
09-20-2001, 04:05 PM
Things are not that bad?
Ok then, why should we send anyone on a very risky mission?
If the will of America is to get the people who did this and stop future acts, we, as a country must be willing to accept the deaths of our sons on risky missions to end this.
Will we have this resolution once body bags start coming back from the Middle East? If not, we should not fight the war unless we as a country have the resolution to finish it. I am sensing a lot of weakness in the American people despite the outward patriotism.
I do not think a suicide mission is the answer but to end terrorism as we know it will require bravery and risky missions in which Americans will be killed.
I have a fear that we do not have the intestinal fortitude to see this out. I do not think a symbolic victory (getting Bin Laden) will be sufficient and will only fuel additional attacks. If things go badly and our international support peals away (as it very likely will), we have to have the fortitude to keep up the fight.
Rockhound
09-20-2001, 04:15 PM
To anon. "..things are not that bad".
How bad do they need to be before you would fight back?
Anonymous
09-20-2001, 04:25 PM
I didn't say I wouldn't fight back. There's a difference between fighting back, inwhich you have a chance of dying, and a suicide mission, inwhich you are certain to die.
To those who think they could do a suicide mission, .... without doubt you are full of S.
"and a suicide mission, inwhich you are certain to die."
No, you are only likely to die on a suicide mission.
Anonymous
09-20-2001, 04:36 PM
On 2001-09-20 16:35, Jala wrote:
"and a suicide mission, inwhich you are certain to die."
No, you are only likely to die on a suicide mission.
Jala, may this post forever be attributed to demonstrate your intellect.
Anonymous
09-20-2001, 04:58 PM
To anon. You're probably right--most Americans loathe "suicide missions", though they may be willing to go on "daring missions". The other side, obviously doesn't feel that way. This suggests, again, that after we deal with the leaders of these fiends, we need a massive education/indoctrination program to civilize the progeny of these people.
Anonymous: "and a suicide mission, inwhich you are certain to die."
Jala: "No, you are only likely to die on a suicide mission."
Anonymous: "Jala, may this post forever be attributed to demonstrate your intellect."
Please explain your comment. Do you think the probability of death on a suicide mission is 1?
Traci
09-20-2001, 09:30 PM
"""Do you think the probability of death on a suicide mission is 1?"""
Am I missing something?
Isn't that pretty much why they call it that?
Has anyone ever survived a suicide mission? Yes. Therefore, the probability of death while on a suicide mission is <1.
Come on, everybody, let's focus. This is not a difficult concept to comprehend.
Han Solo
09-20-2001, 10:36 PM
There have been documented survivors of kamikaze missions. Most were pilots that as below, had engine trouble and ditched, or their planes were disabled by flak and they survived the water.
For one,
"According to survivors, all say that they felt quite calm, and normal. They were not scared of death but were happy that the day had finally come.[69] Mr. Itatsu was a pilot who had departed for the mission but because his engine had stopped on the way, his plane fell into the sea, and he survived."
Homer
09-20-2001, 11:14 PM
If we use television as a guide (and I know we can), then some people must survive suicide missions. Otherwise, the History Channel would not be able to show people talking about their suicide mission.
Anonymous
09-20-2001, 11:28 PM
On 2001-09-20 23:14, Homer wrote:
If we use television as a guide (and I know we can), then some people must survive suicide missions. Otherwise, the History Channel would not be able to show people talking about their suicide mission.
Homer, you have proven this without a doubt, thanks to television. Gloryus television.
Anonymous
09-21-2001, 09:19 AM
It is likely that we have lots of goodies in our arsenal that none of us know about. I saw an article long ago, for example, suggesting that in the failed effort to free the hostages in Iran (they were held in a city, remember), the troops were probably planning to use a gas that would just render everyone unconscious, so that the troops could just walk past the Iranian civilians. Hopefully we have something like that, because it sounds like many of the civilians will be both armed and hostile to us.
Grits N Gravy
09-21-2001, 10:25 AM
Nope, makes me wish H. Ross Perot was in charge.
Also, if armed and hostile, is a civilian still a civilian?
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