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Drzy
02-24-2002, 01:33 PM
I won't be participating in the fantasy baseball league, so there's no reason for me to hold on to my powerful 2002 baseball season secret.

Ahhh, Woody Williams. Pitcher for the Cardinals. Let's take a look at those statistics...

Height: 6'0"
Weight: 195

Last Year: 15-9, 4.05 ERA, Approx. 3-1 K/BB, opponents batting average .268..... hardly impressive, maybe even the opposite.

Career: 65-63, 4.20 ERA, less than 2-1 K/BB, opponents batting average .256..... even less impressive.

This guy has had a solid yet unspectacular career, a lifetime number three starter who loses as often as he wins. So I am here to make the call that this is Woody's year. I'm calling a 20-win season with around a 3.00 ERA, a 4-1 K/BB ratio, and about 7 strikeouts per inning pitched. In short, an All-Star season, maybe even Cy Young.

Why you ask? Because I don't know what happened to him, but the last half of last season he was ON. His sinker was the sharpest I've ever seen, his slider made the batters look like idiots, his curve made them statues. It was incredible... if any of you watched Game 3 of the Cardinals-Diamondbacks playoffs, you saw what I'm talking about.

So throughout the season, I will periodically be posting in this thread to update you on his progress and remind you all where you heard this first. And when Woody Williams wins the Cy Young Award and SportsCenter tries to tell people "wow, no one saw that coming!," you can say, oh no... Drz knew. Drz knew.

Drzy
02-25-2002, 01:05 PM
Ahhh, minimal interest in this thread, excellent. That'll all change in a couple months. :smile:

In the meantime, you'll have to read this thread each time I post something new on the off-chance someone posted something interesting. Don't worry, I won't do this too often. :grin:

Abducens
02-25-2002, 02:07 PM
>>7 strikeouts per inning pitched

That IS impressive. I'm in!

Pseudolus
02-25-2002, 02:11 PM
His catcher must s*ck!

General Kenobi (ret.)
02-25-2002, 02:11 PM
That's Ankiel-wild.

DonkeyPunch (Banned)
02-25-2002, 03:12 PM
On the last at bat in each inning they line up 5 guys in a row, Bugs Bunny style, and he strikes them all out at once.

Drzy
02-25-2002, 03:35 PM
per GAME, per GAME! I leave for an hour, come back, see four posts and get all excited, and it's just you hooligans up to your usual shenanigans. :smile:

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CJL
02-25-2002, 04:15 PM
Maybe he'll climb the Empire State Building to rob some poor shmuck of a game winning home run, and keep his own ERA down in the process.

With no knowledge whatsoever about this guy, I'd bet that this season lowers his career stats rather than raising them.

I haven't followed baseball in years, but I recall several Reds pitchers having great seasons and then blowing it the next year. My prime example is Rob Dibble. I'm bad with names, but there was another Reds pitcher in the early '90s who was up for Cy Young one year, and was nothing but a big disappointment the next year. I'm sure someone will know who I mean, fill in the name, and add the stats. I believe his first name started with "D".

Drzy
03-02-2002, 05:59 PM
I listened to his first spring training start on the radio. The announcers said absolutely none of his pitchers were straight.

Just two innings pitched. It should've been two 1-2-3 innings, but the left fielder lost the sixth batters pop-up in the sun and it fell in for a "double." The next batter got the only real hit, a squibbling grounder, and drove in the run. All told, 2 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 3 strikeouts.

But if not for the lost ball in the sun, it would've been 2 IP, 0 hits, 0 runs, 3 strikeouts. Things are looking good for this year's Cy Young winner. :grin:

the mole
03-08-2002, 02:52 PM
4 scoreless innings 2day

Pseudolus
03-08-2002, 03:00 PM
http://www.sportsline.com/u/baseball/mlb/preseason_stats/tpSTLera.htm

He is looking pretty good so far. We'll see how long that holds up.

Drzy
03-08-2002, 10:07 PM
I'd like to point out that the one run scored when the left fielder lost a pop-up in the sun. :smile:

Drzy
03-08-2002, 10:47 PM
Oh, by the way:


Drz Posted: 2001-10-03 03:28
I think the NL MVP debate has gotten out of hand. I predict 30 of the 32 first place votes going to Bonds, with just the two Chicago writers voting for Sosa

So far I'm batting 1.000 with my baseball predictions, so statistically speaking, it's impossible that I can be wrong about Williams' amazing season. :grin:

Dr T Non-Fan
03-11-2002, 12:22 PM
That's why baseball should always be played indoors. In the dark.

Good prediction, though on the MVP thing. The Chicago writers' "reasons" were the creme de la creme.

Drzy
03-13-2002, 12:22 AM
Woody Update-
Today: 5 IP, 5 strikeouts, 3 hits, 0 runs.
Total: 11 IP, 13 strikeouts, 1 fake run.

Drzy
04-06-2002, 01:20 AM
Injured in his first start. Left oblique strain. He's listed as day to day.
:cry:

toomuchtime
04-07-2002, 05:48 PM
Now he's on the DL. Like all Red Sox Fans (and always too early) say, wait til next year...

Kid Rock
04-09-2002, 10:08 AM
I'm bad with names, but there was another Reds pitcher in the early '90s who was up for Cy Young one year, and was nothing but a big disappointment the next year. I'm sure someone will know who I mean, fill in the name, and add the stats. I believe his first name started with "D".

I'm guessing Jose Rijo. He's back with Cincinnati!

His career stats look pretty good. 94-64, ERA of 2.88, WHIP 1.21. He didn't play in the big leagues from 1995 to 2001.

Captain America
04-26-2002, 08:51 AM
You are probably are thinking of Danny Jackson - late eighties, not early nineties:

1988 23-8 260.7IP 2.73ERA

1989 6-11 115.7IP 5.60ERA

Good memory though!

Ben Kenobi
04-26-2002, 09:01 AM
There are now &lt;gulp&gt; five Cardinal starters on the DL. So much for the deepest staff in the NL.

treyso
04-29-2002, 11:13 AM
It'll be pretty hard to win the Cy Young by spending a month or two on the DL. Kinda hurting your credibility, drz. Glad I drafted him in the Cooler League.

Drzy
04-29-2002, 10:41 PM
I know, I know. :( The Cy Young idea is definitely out the window, but I'm still expecting big things when he comes back. Assuming you didn't dump him, it'll just be a couple more weeks 'til you're glad you drafted him.

Plus, he's an excellent-hitting pitcher too :D

CJL
05-03-2002, 05:40 PM
I was thinking of Danny Jackson. I knew someone would know what I meant.

I remember Jose Rijo as the one who had an ERA under 2.0 and a record of something like 4-12 because his teammates scored 0.2 runs per game when he was starting.

Drzy
05-13-2002, 11:36 PM
Woody-Mania is about to begin!!! He's making his second start of the season Wednesday against the Cubbies. He's not making *any* rehab appearances against live batters, so he'll probably be a little rusty. Who knows, the Cubs might even get a hit or two off him.

Woo-dy! Woo-dy! Woo-dy! Woo-dy! Woo-dy! Woo-dy! Woo-dy! Woo-dy!

Fiveagain
05-19-2002, 01:27 PM
Woo-dy, Woo-dy, Mor-ris, Mor-ris. Now if we could just get Kyle going.

Drzy
05-19-2002, 07:18 PM
I didn't post anything about Woody's first start off the disabled list since I don't want to bring up every start of his, but since you mention it, he gave up just three hits and an unearned run (caused by two errors on the same play) in six innings... no win though, because no run support For what it's worth, he's batting .500 (he's also long been one of the best-hitting pitchers in the game.) :)

Kile threw a 2-hitter his last time out for the victory, and his curveball's looking good. Ankiel's also once again throwing awesome in his side sessions... I think this rotation has finally come together.

Fiveagain
05-20-2002, 08:39 AM
I never saw anything so funny as Ankiel's wild pitches last year.

Woody starts tonight at 7:00. I guess he didn't get the win from his second start, but they did win the game so he must have done OK.

Drzy
05-20-2002, 11:48 PM
Six shutout innings for the win. Season ERA: 0.45 Once he gets a few more starts (and thus shutouts) in, then it'll be time to bust out the I-told-you-so's. :)

Fiveagain
05-22-2002, 01:19 PM
Eat your heart out DRZ. I am going to see Ankiel in person Friday.

Drzy
05-22-2002, 02:15 PM
Dude, no fair! Just to spread some unsubstantiated rumors, my source within the Cardinals organization (well, his dad is in the Cardinal organization, that's the real source) says Ankiel tokes up the Coca-Cola stick quite a bit, and that's probably why he was having his control problems. But that's just a rumor I heard, not necessarily true!

Fiveagain
05-23-2002, 08:40 AM
9 out of 10--Cardinals are on a roll. Kyle did OK but didn't get the support from the hitters. Cardinals have some dynamite closers too. Do you think Ankiel will be brought up this year?

Ben Kenobi
05-23-2002, 12:00 PM
Eat your heart out DRZ. I am going to see Ankiel in person Friday.

Where? He's not on rehab assignment yet. Steve Kline's going to be in Peoria on Friday, though.

Fiveagain
05-23-2002, 12:05 PM
My source says Ankiel will pitch Friday night in Peoria.

Ben Kenobi
05-23-2002, 02:23 PM
The Peoria Journal-Star (http://www.pjstar.com/sports/chiefs/g103388a.html) says Ankiel may be there by Monday. It's definitely Kline tomorrow night.

I'm wondering if your source had old information, or if you haven't heard from him in a few days. Ankiel's rehab schedule was pushed back a few days early this week.

If you're still going, I hope you have your tickets already--Peoria is opening a brand new stadium (weather permitting) tomorrow.

Fiveagain
05-26-2002, 11:19 AM
DRZ, you are physic. Williams is now 2-0. It's too bad he was injured or he might have gotten the Cy Young award. Go Woody.

Drzy
05-26-2002, 11:45 AM
A 3-hitter yesterday. Unfortunately two of those were homers, so he also gave up three runs, but if that's a bad day for Woody, I'll take that anyday. Oh, and he also was battling the flu. :)

treyso
05-28-2002, 05:20 PM
Dude, are you Woody's dad?

Drzy
05-29-2002, 08:47 AM
Haha. No, Woody is my daddy, and everyone else's too.

Ben Kenobi
06-04-2002, 10:16 AM
A not-terribly-highly-placed source tells me the word is Ankiel will be in Peoria on Wednesday.

gloid
06-04-2002, 10:25 AM
From ESPN's Power rankings:

Woody Williams 9-1, 2.18 in 15 starts for Cards since being acquired from Padres last year. What a steal

Drzy
06-04-2002, 06:47 PM
Bear in mind, gloid, the Cardinals had to give up Big K Ray to get Woody. Fans in the seats really miss the air conditioning Ray's many whiffs provided. :D

I heard the same thing Kenobi, except my source was espn.com, so I'm assuming it must be true. They also said that whatever happens, Ankiel won't be in the rotation this season for the Cardinals (bullpen is likely though).

Drzy
06-17-2002, 12:05 PM
Woody Update:

Woody threw a complete game 5-hitter with one run last night for the win; it's his first complete game since coming back from the injury.

Unfortunately, he's currently about 20 innings shy of qualifying for the ERA race, but if he did qualify, here's what the leaderboard would look like:

1. T. Glavine, Atl 1.71
2. W. Williams, Stl 2.20
3. O. Perez, LA 2.62
4. E. Dessens, Cin 2.62
5. R. Johnson, Ari 2.63
6. P. Astacio, NYM 2.71

Go Woody! Who called this one, oh yeah! :D

Fiveagain
06-17-2002, 02:50 PM
Thanks dad, I appreciate your support.

Woody

Drzy
07-13-2002, 01:57 AM
Back on the DL. Back problems. :( Just when he was about to qualify for the ERA title too.

1. T. Glavine, Atl 2.27
2. W. Williams, Stl 2.35
3. R. Johnson, Ari 2.55
4. G. Maddux, Atl 2.76
5. A. Leiter, NYM 2.80

Fiveagain
08-12-2002, 10:55 AM
Any idea when Woody will be ready to help out the Cardinals? They need pitchers in a bad way.

Drzy
08-12-2002, 02:26 PM
He's scheduled to make a rehab start on (I think) August 21st... on a side note, he now has the lowest ERA in the National League with pitchers who have at least 60 innings. :D

Pseudolus
10-09-2002, 08:42 AM
Williams will start for Cardinals in Game 2 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20021009/ap_wo_en_po/sports_baseball_nlcs_notebook_1)Tue Oct 8, 8:37 PM ET
By R.B. FALLSTROM, AP Sports Writer

ST. LOUIS - It will be 20 days between starts for Woody Williams when he pitches for the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 2 of the NL championship series against San Francisco.



Cardinals manager Tony La Russa made it official Tuesday, the day before Game 1, when he announced the rest of his rotation. St. Louis right-hander Matt Morris will go against Kirk Rueter in the opener, and after that it will be Williams, Chuck Finley and Andy Benes for the Cardinals.

Drzy
10-09-2002, 12:14 PM
It's good to see other people bring this topic up. :)

Unfortunately, Woody gave up 3 runs in a couple of his last starts, causing his ERA to balloon to 2.53, good for only second in the NL to Randy Johnson (although, he didn't qualify for the ERA title anyway, was short by ~70 innings).

But, now that The Enormous Unit is out of the playoffs, the Cards have the BEST REMAINING PITCHER in the MAJOR LEAGUES! Woo-dy! Woo-dy! Woo-dy! Woo-dy!

Side note: I truly, honestly believe that. Does anyone dispute this?

Obi-Wan Kenobi
10-09-2002, 12:25 PM
You probably do believe it.

Drzy
10-09-2002, 02:52 PM
It's true!

Pseudolus
10-09-2002, 02:56 PM
I don't even know who to root for anymore. Neither of the teams I generally cheer for even made the playoffs, and there's no further reason to cheer against the Braves and Yankers. Maybe I'll "adopt" the Cards - the Woody subplot is as good a reason as any!

Pseudolus
10-11-2002, 09:17 AM
Well, Woody did pretty darn good (if you don't count the Aurilia at bats).

Not looking great for the Redbirds.

Obi-Wan Kenobi
10-11-2002, 03:02 PM
Please adopt someone else's team. :(

Drzy
10-11-2002, 04:52 PM
Please adopt someone else's team. :(
Haha, that was pretty funny. 8)

I don't think it's as big a gloom and doom situation as ESPN is making it out to be. Their headline for the game had all these words describing the Giants lead as huge, giant, colossal, etc. I mean, the odds aren't especially good, but it's not like there's no hope or anything.

Woody didn't look too good. :( Even though he would've had a shutout without those two gopher balls to Aurilia (same location on each pitch!), his pitches didn't have their usual movement and zip. I'm surprised he struck out as many people as he did. But, I guess even Woody is human.

Pseudolus
10-12-2002, 06:19 PM
As of 4 this afternoon I ceased rooting for the Giants. To guarantee the continuation of this "arrangement", please wire me $500 per remaining game (that's each of you). Thank you.

Drzy
10-14-2002, 02:34 AM
Done. It should show up on your statements late Thursday night.

Pseudolus
10-14-2002, 10:47 AM
Hey, don't blame me. The Cards were winning when I went to bed last night.

I guess for this to work I'm going have to stay up and actually affirmatively root for the Giants. That's going to cost you extra. I'll charge straight time from 9:30 (my usual bedtime) to 11, time-and-a-half from 11-midnight, and double time after that. To save $, tell your players not to dally.

Drzy
04-13-2003, 12:37 AM
Click here to see Randy Johnson's daddy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5025)

Guess who's back....
back again....
Woody's back....
back again....
Guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back.
Na na na na na!...

League leaders (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/statistics?stat=era&league=nl&season=2&year=2003) - I wonder who #1 is????

Anonymous
04-13-2003, 02:48 PM
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:37 pm

I think someone's having a little trouble finding something to do on their Saturday nights... What? Was SNL playing another re-run?

rafkooch
04-14-2003, 01:06 PM
Click here to see Randy Johnson's daddy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5025)


My favorite part is where they project his season record to be 29-0.

P.S. I'm a Cub fan.

The Cat in the Hat
04-14-2003, 01:30 PM
I've got Woody on my Fantasy Baseball team. Best part is that he was an incredibly low draft pick for me. Now let us all say a short prayer that he will remain healthy.

I was in St Louis two years ago and saw him pitch against Cincinnati. Very impressive. He held the Reds to 1 run in six or seven innings, but what I most remember is him hitting a 2 rbi double off the wall, that provided the winning margin in the game.

And how can you not like a guy named Woody?

Drzy
04-14-2003, 07:39 PM
I've got Woody on my Fantasy Baseball team. Best part is that he was an incredibly low draft pick for me.
Good for you! That obviously wouldn't have happened if I'd been in the draft. :wink:

I completely don't get why The Baseball People don't recognize his talent. If you take away the injuries, over the last year and a half he's arguably been the top pitcher in the majors. It totally baffles me that people don't see this.

Drzy
04-19-2003, 01:26 PM
*Yawn*. Seven more shutout innings for the Woodster. :horse:

Woody Williams untouchable (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=230418124)

yeppers-wsmn
04-19-2003, 02:38 PM
League leaders (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/statistics?stat=era&league=nl&season=2&year=2003) - I wonder who #1 is????

Take #1. Guess who's got 4 pitchers in the top 20 (OK, top 21).

This is the year!!

Drzy
05-01-2003, 08:29 AM
Woody update! :D

Williams had the flu yesterday, so Mets pitchers pounded him for four hits in seven innings. Ya see, that's a pounding for Woody. :wink: Two runs scored when J.D. Drew misplayed a flyball (whoops, the ball is going the other direction!), which the official scorer for reasons unknown ruled a double. So Woody's ERA ballooned to 1.09, when it should have been lowered to 0.55. Damn the official scorer!

Also because of the flu, Williams was limited to a 1 for 3 batting performance, with a double. His batting average sits at a paltry .308.

Woo-dy! Woo-dy! Woo-dy! Woo-dy! ...did somebody say, CY YOUNG?!?!? 8)

Tony the Tiger
05-06-2003, 10:26 AM
Did he have the flu again? If four hits is a pounding, what is 4 runs in the first 2 innings? :D

Drzy
05-06-2003, 11:34 AM
Did he have the flu again?
Yeah. :( I admire him for pitching through illness, but it's messing up his stat sheet! His ERA ballooned to a disgusting 1.76. :cry:

It's the second time in his last 30 starts that he's given up more than 3 earned runs.

jhg858
05-06-2003, 12:40 PM
we all know real allstars boost their performnce during an illness.

Drzy
05-06-2003, 12:45 PM
we all know real allstars boost their performnce during an illness.
we all know you can kiss my ass! :swear: :P

He did go 2 for 4 with the bat, raising his average to .357. And let's not forget his dominating performance after those first four runs (darn near a perfect game). You're just jealous of Woody's super stellarness!

Not Mike
05-06-2003, 01:54 PM
we all know real allstars boost their performnce during an illness.
we all know you can kiss my ass! :swear: :P

He did go 2 for 4 with the bat, raising his average to .357. And let's not forget his dominating performance after those first four runs (darn near a perfect game). You're just jealous of Woody's super stellarness!

Hey, he's on my fantasy team thanks to your dedication.... so keep up the good work!

yeppers-wsmn
05-10-2003, 05:47 PM
Great win for the cubbies today.

Your boy, Woody, squeaked by without blemishing his w/l record.

Wood, not Woody, is who we should be talking about. Cy.

Drzy
05-10-2003, 08:43 PM
Great win for the cubbies today.

Your boy, Woody, squeaked by without blemishing his w/l record.

Wood, not Woody, is who we should be talking about. Cy.
Two runs in eight innings (with 9 strikeouts) will usually be plenty enough to "squeak by." It was a good duel between Williams and Wood... almost equal production in about eight innings. I've got to wonder how long this Eldred experiment will last.

I'll take Woody's 1.84 ERA over Wood's 2.77 ERA anyday... even if these numbers kept up, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Wood garner more Cy support than Woody. Woody has gotten practically no respect these last two years. :( Now Prior, on the other hand... there's a real Cy.

Abducens
06-06-2003, 07:55 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=230605124&prov=ap

toomuchtime
06-06-2003, 09:49 AM
ST. LOUIS (AP) -- Woody Williams has never been better, holding Toronto hitless for 7 1/3 innings, hitting his first career triple with the bases loaded and driving in a career-best four RBI.


This guy is having some year. What is he 8-1 now? And now he is putting up power numbers?

Drzy
06-06-2003, 12:46 PM
All I can say is: :D

Aaron Brachowitz
06-06-2003, 02:16 PM
But will Dusty pick him for the All-Star team? He'll probably pick Wood instead with his 4 wins. :)

How about this guy Scott Sullivan (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/gamelog?statsId=5383) of the Reds? At 6-0, he leads the league in wins as a reliever. Does he only come in when they're behind?

Anonymous
06-09-2003, 12:19 PM
How about this guy Scott Sullivan (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/gamelog?statsId=5383) of the Reds? At 6-0, he leads the league in wins as a reliever. Does he only come in when they're behind?
I'd guess it is a little of that but more because the Reds don't have good starting pitching and great batters (except for the Great Red Messiah). There is no way Sullivan makes the All Star squad.

gadzookz
06-11-2003, 02:53 PM
How about this guy Scott Sullivan (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/gamelog?statsId=5383) of the Reds? At 6-0, he leads the league in wins as a reliever. Does he only come in when they're behind?
I'd guess it is a little of that but more because the Reds don't have good starting pitching and great batters (except for the Great Red Messiah). There is no way Sullivan makes the All Star squad.

Wins are even more meaningless for relievers than they are for starters. Last night was the Reds 1st win by a starter since May 14th. Every win in the past month has been by a reliever. Probably a combination of the team's starters not pitching deep into games and a lot of late inning come-from-behind wins.

Since the Reds won't have anyone voted onto the team, I would imagine major league leading HR hitter Adam Dunn will be the Reds token representative this year.

Tony the Tiger
06-17-2003, 03:19 PM
http://www.aacsportsmemorabilia.com/item.asp?ID=1295&cat=search&totRecs=7

A hand numbered Limited Edition of only 300 baseballs -- there are no 2 baseballs alike! Each ball will be engraved with the stats from the specific win, and each ball is signed by Clemens on the sweet spot. Different baseballs are priced differently. This edition will sell out fast; balls are sold on a first come, first serve basis. Retail price listed here is on the regular baseball numbers (win #1, 100, 200 Cy Young year balls are premium baseballs).

The funny thing is, the phone number is 1-800-WOODY64

Abducens
06-17-2003, 03:22 PM
http://www.aacsportsmemorabilia.com/item.asp?ID=1295&cat=search&totRecs=7

A hand numbered Limited Edition of only 300 baseballs -- there are no 2 baseballs alike! Each ball will be engraved with the stats from the specific win, and each ball is signed by Clemens on the sweet spot. Different baseballs are priced differently. This edition will sell out fast; balls are sold on a first come, first serve basis. Retail price listed here is on the regular baseball numbers (win #1, 100, 200 Cy Young year balls are premium baseballs).

The funny thing is, the phone number is 1-800-WOODY64

He actually used each baseball, too. One for each attempt at #300. I don't know how valuable they could be, given what a farce the whole thing turned into. But then, I don't know baseball memorabilia.

Fiveagain
06-22-2003, 12:07 PM
Woody is not only the best pitcher the Cards have, he is the only dependable pitcher they have right now. They need help. Looks like Ankiel won't be any help. He is 1 - 5 in the minors.

Pseudolus
07-07-2003, 11:12 AM
First-time-All-Star :bump: !

Anonymous
07-07-2003, 11:16 AM
And he beat fellow All Star Mark Prior for his eleventh win yesterday.

rafkooch
07-07-2003, 01:03 PM
And he beat fellow All Star Mark Prior for his eleventh win yesterday.

(You know you spend too much time on the RF when...)

As I was listening to the game yesterday, I thought that Woody beating Prior might be the only thing to bring Drzy out of the basement!

Aaron Brachowitz
07-07-2003, 02:29 PM
And he beat fellow All Star Mark Prior for his eleventh win yesterday.

Williams doesn't have the Cubs' offense dragging him down. :roll:

RNK NAME GMS AVG SLG OBP OPS H BB SO HR R RBI
1 St. Louis 87 .290 .477 .358 .835 905 301 485 116 504 477
12 Chicago 87 .260 .415 .327 .742 775 283 630 89 386 368

Tony the Tiger
07-16-2003, 01:23 PM
We saw again last night that WW would not last in the AL. He pads his stats against the NL.

rafkooch
07-16-2003, 05:16 PM
We saw again last night that WW would not last in the AL. He pads his stats against the NL.

:-?
And that Mariners pitcher (Sasaki?) would *never* make it in the NL, they got him for 4 runs in less than an inning. And Mulder would give up a home run *every 2 innings* if he were in the NL. And Gagne would *never* have a save if he were in the AL. Boy, it sure is a good thing for them that they are in the league they are in.
:roll:

The Cat in the Hat
07-16-2003, 06:55 PM
Or perhaps a little closer to Tony's heart, we saw that Alfonso Soriano and Jorge Posada would never make it in the NL, and only pad their stats on weak AL pitching.

:crazy:

Triweasel
07-16-2003, 07:35 PM
Yeah, but it sure was sweet seeing Gagne get rocked like that. It pretty much sucks to be a Giants fan, but live in L.A.

The Cat in the Hat
07-16-2003, 07:42 PM
I don't know, especially in recent years, it has to be much better than to be a Dodger fan living in San Fran.

Triweasel
07-16-2003, 07:56 PM
I agree, I wouldn't want to be Dodger fan living anywhere. If I were, I'd probably ask someone to kill me. Last year's game 6 was excruciating though. I was at a Halloween party and was outnumbered about 40-1 by a bunch of Dodger...oops, I mean Angel...fans and was almost ready to gloat when the halos' prayers were answered.

Tony the Tiger
07-17-2003, 10:33 AM
The allstar game was not a one game aberration. It was a continuation of the beating that the Yanks and redsox put on him. He han't given up 5 runs in a game til he played an AL team.

On the other hand, I am not worried about Soriano. He hit about the same against interleague teams as he does overall.

I Pity the Fool
07-17-2003, 11:54 AM
Tony, are you an actuary? Have you ever heard of "sample size" ?

H&R
07-17-2003, 12:22 PM
Tony, are you an actuary? Have you ever heard of "sample size" ?

Second time I've seen him asked that question. The guy is a moron

Soriano:

......At Bats.....BA.....2B.....3B.....HR.....TB
AL...326........294....12......4......20.....215
NL.....81........284....3.......0.......2........3 7

Average down slightly. Power way off.

edited: forgot singles in Total bases.
Did I mention BP is a moron. Against the NL Soriano is a singles hitter with a crappy OBP, since he doesn't walk.

Tony the Tiger
07-17-2003, 12:49 PM
So my point about WW is undisputed.

As for Soriano, as I said he hit about the same... avg is only different by 10 points.

Fiveagain
07-21-2003, 08:24 AM
Way to go Woody. Now if the Cardinals just had another pitcher or two...

Tony the Tiger
07-21-2003, 11:54 AM
6 earned runs (including 4 HRs) in 7 innings is worth applauding?

Yeah, I am sure they want more pitchers like that on the team.

Abducens
07-21-2003, 12:00 PM
Someone is conspicuously absent in the Kobe Bryant thread. I guess one of the perks of bandwagoning is that there's always a place to run and hide.

Fiveagain
08-05-2003, 03:19 PM
Good luck Woody. We are rooting for you to get number 15 tonight.

Fiveagain
08-15-2003, 11:24 AM
Good luck Woody. We are rooting for you to get number 15 tonight.

Abducens
08-15-2003, 11:28 AM
Someone is conspicuously absent in the Kobe Bryant thread. I guess one of the perks of bandwagoning is that there's always a place to run and hide.

Someone is conspicuously absent, period. It's like I said before - it doesn't mean you can't participate - it just means everyone knows that you have zero credibility.

egg
08-15-2003, 11:55 AM
You feeling OK Abducens? You are quoting yourself and telling yourself that you have zero credibility. Not that it isn't like you but to actually admit that you have zero credibility isn't.

Abducens
08-15-2003, 11:59 AM
You feeling OK Abducens? You are quoting yourself and telling yourself that you have zero credibility. Not that it isn't like you but to actually admit that you have zero credibility isn't.

I can see why you might think that - my intended audience catches my meaning all too well. I would probably run and hide too.

MountainHawk
08-16-2003, 11:11 AM
Thanks to Woody for contributing to the 'Stop the Fish' campaign, a non profit Philadelphia based group that do not want the Marlins to get the wild card. :)

yeppers-wsmn
09-01-2003, 11:23 PM
ouch (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=230901116)

Aaron Brachowitz
09-02-2003, 09:55 AM
ouch (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=230901116)
Woody shouldn't feel bad. He's not really in Prior's league.

Tony the Tiger
09-02-2003, 11:37 AM
Click here to see Randy Johnson's daddy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5025)

Guess who's back....
back again....
Woody's back....
back again....
Guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back.
Na na na na na!...

League leaders (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/statistics?stat=era&league=nl&season=2&year=2003) - I wonder who #1 is????

It's not WW. He must be #2 then. No, how about 3, no... let's skip down a bit....oh, there he is down at #13.

Aaron Brachowitz
09-03-2003, 06:22 PM
Woody comes on in relief, up one run with a man on second. The line: 2/3 IP, 2H, 1ER, L (14-8 )

Go Cubs! :guitarwo:

Brad Spirrison
09-03-2003, 06:32 PM
Woody comes on in relief, up one run with a man on second. The line: 2/3 IP, 2H, 1ER, L (14-8 )

Go Cubs! :guitarwo:


LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLooooooooooser.

That's 2 losses in the series, kind of rare for a starting pitcher.

He also moves down to 16th in NL ERA. (Prior still holding at 3rd, Zambrano 6th.)

Anonymous
09-03-2003, 10:26 PM
:lol:

Tony the Tiger
09-04-2003, 10:04 AM
Good luck Woody. We are rooting for you to get number 15 tonight.

:bump: still waiting :lol:

Brad Spirrison
09-12-2003, 04:44 PM
Good luck tonight, Woody.

We (Cubs fans) need you to beat the Astros tonight

Patience
09-12-2003, 04:51 PM
Cubs, so far having a good afternoon scored in each of the first 4 innings, up 5-0 after 4

Anonymous
09-12-2003, 05:05 PM
Good luck tonight, Woody.

We (Cubs fans) need you to beat the Astros tonight
I'll be in the first row behind the Cards dugout. :D

I'll be at tomorrow night's game too (in much higher seats).

Tony the Tiger
09-29-2003, 04:46 PM
Click here to see Randy Johnson's daddy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5025)

Guess who's back....
back again....
Woody's back....
back again....
Guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back.
Na na na na na!...

League leaders (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/statistics?stat=era&league=nl&season=2&year=2003) - I wonder who #1 is????

It's not WW. He must be #2 then. No, how about 3, no... let's skip down a bit....oh, there he is down at #13.

Guess who's not back, Guess who's not back, Guess who's not back

Ha Ha Ha.

All the way down at #13? No, he must be top 20, though. :rofl:

I Pity the Fool
09-29-2003, 06:15 PM
Guess who's not back, Guess who's not back, Guess who's not back

Ha Ha Ha.

All the way down at #13? No, he must be top 20, though. :rofl:

Truly an awful season. :roll:

Tony, you are an idiot.

Abducens
09-30-2003, 08:39 AM
Guess who's not back, Guess who's not back, Guess who's not back

Ha Ha Ha.

All the way down at #13? No, he must be top 20, though. :rofl:

Truly an awful season. :roll:

Tony, you are an idiot.

It was proven long ago that Tony's a big ole bandwagon fan - Yankees, Lakers, Duke men's basketball - and doesn't have any credibility in a sports discussion. He's pretty funny as he actually considers himself a legitimate fan.

The one team he probably truly loves (since it ain't for the successful track record) is the Eagles, and I do love pointing out what pathetic failures they've been recently. :lol: 29-24 :lol: 27-10 :lol:

rafkooch
10-01-2003, 04:26 PM
Guess who's not back, Guess who's not back, Guess who's not back

Ha Ha Ha.

All the way down at #13? No, he must be top 20, though. :rofl:

Truly an awful season. :roll:

Tony, you are an idiot.

It was proven long ago that Tony's a big ole bandwagon fan - Yankees, Lakers, Duke men's basketball - and doesn't have any credibility in a sports discussion. He's pretty funny as he actually considers himself a legitimate fan.

The one team he probably truly loves (since it ain't for the successful track record) is the Eagles, and I do love pointing out what pathetic failures they've been recently. :lol: 29-24 :lol: 27-10 :lol:

Keep up the good work Ab :D

Pseudolus
10-14-2004, 01:31 PM
:bump: (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=241013124)

Drzy
10-14-2004, 05:13 PM
Yeah. I'm aware of this thread's existence. :P

Woody's getting old. His pitch quality is way down.... less speed, less movement. He was considering retiring mid-season this year because he went through a period of what he called a dead arm. Even his playoff performances, though both wins, haven't been quite up to snuff. His best days are definitely behind him.

That said, he's still a warlord out there, he's still getting results, and he still swings the bat pretty well. I'll continue being a Woody fan each time he takes the mound. :D

Drzy
12-01-2004, 11:45 AM
:bump:

Hey Ebenezer Kohl... do you want to start the Brandon Backe thread or should I? :P

Believe me.... he's going places...... and I mean soon. As in, 2005.

douglan
12-01-2004, 11:53 AM
:bump:

Hey Ebenezer Kohl... do you want to start the Brandon Backe thread or should I? :P

Believe me.... he's going places...... and I mean soon. As in, 2005.

Is EK even on the RF anymore? :D

Drzy
12-01-2004, 11:53 AM
Post #2...

Remember, this is all based on limited scouting, the exact same reason I was able to call Woody's breakout. Minute Maid's a hitter's park so he'll have more trouble hitting the spotlight with slightly inflated numbers, but I guarantee he will be opening eyes.

Anytime I need a good ego boost, I can go read the first three pages of this thread. :D

Edit to add: I just saw all that... was he banned? I'm sure he'll be around to read this somehow though, sometime.

MountainHawk
12-09-2004, 09:05 AM
Heard he signed with the Padres. That is all.

Mike and Maddog
09-30-2005, 12:51 PM
Mark McGwire: Returns to Busch for appreciation night. LOL
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/quickie