Truly a gentle-man

[Paddyboy1]

As his son said at his funeral, Reagan was truly a gentle man. He couldnt' possibly have known and lied about the atrocities committed by our client governments in latin America. He otherwise lived his life with grace and compassion:

"It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas."

[Frinky]

As his son said at his funeral, Reagan was truly a gentle man. He couldnt' possibly have known and lied about the atrocities committed by our client governments in latin America. He otherwise lived his life with grace and compassion:

"It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas."

I like how our leaders include "we" when talking about the sacrifice soldiers will makes, because they are ordered to.

Also, does it seem to anyone else that leaders who haven't experienced war are more likely to throw our soldiers into it?

[Tim><]

I know it is en vogue to criticize the recently deceased, but he did volunteer for the army two years before the draft. He would have served overseas were it not for poor eyesight. Respond with conspiracy now.

[Paddyboy1]

1. It is decidedly *not* in vogue to criticise the recently deceased. Nobody disputes Reagan's role in Iran/Contra, this is a huge scandal, bigger than the accusations against Nixon that forced him from office. But you can't be bothered to address this. Imagine if George Bush described the war of liberation of Iraq as Reagan described our war of liberation of Vietnam, "I don't know why we're wasting our time deciding who to shoot over there when we could just bomb the country to hell". How would you feel about that? I would say he should resign in disgrace.

2. Reagan did want to serve in Europe. So much that he actually used to lie about having done so. He told the Israeli prime minister Yitzak Shamir that he helped liberate a German concentration camp as an army photographer! Then he told Elie Wiesel the same lie. The guy was either a pathological liar or had a dangerously weak grip on reality.

3. So when confronted with the victims of a genocide, he lies about his war record in saving them. Then he jokes about how we should commit genocide against the Vietnamese people in order to protect the soldiers "we!" who are fighting in Vietnam. Then he gets control of a college campus and plays general by authorising helicopters and tear gas to enforce a measure preventing free-speech on campus. Then he gets control of a country and embezzles money from the government by stealing and selling weapons in order to fund his own private army, answerable only to him. Do you see the pattern here? I'm not a soldier, but I played one on TV.

4. What would a president have to do to anger you, I mean other than fiscal responsibility?

[Lee Mellon]

4. What would a president have to do to anger you, I mean other than fiscal responsibility?

1) Be an elected democrat.
2) Respire.
3) To really seal the deal, get a pipe-cleaning in the oval office.

[Tim><]

4. What would a president have to do to anger you, I mean other than fiscal responsibility?

1) Be an elected democrat.
2) Respire.
3) To really seal the deal, get a pipe-cleaning in the oval office.

First of all, I voted for Clinton. Secondly, I couldn't care less if he got some head. Finally, it would only piss Lee Mellon off if he gave head . . .

[Lee Mellon]

Wrong, kaypee. I really don't care too much which end of the hose any president is playing with. I am concerned about their ability to perform state duties without puking on diplomats, choking on pretzels or declaring war in early dementia.

[Pseudolus]

choking on pretzels

Good to know you focus on the important issues.

[Titania]

choking on pretzels

Good to know you focus on the important issues.He had "declaring war" in there, which I consider an important issue, but you carve out all but these 3 words. Good to know you address the entire post, and don't ignore the possibility it was a light-hearted post, or just parse out a phrase to make the poster look petty.

[Lee Mellon]

1) "Russia has been declared illegal, we start bombing in..."
2) "I have no recollection..."

3) "Bring it on."
4) "Mission Accomplished"
5) "We will vanquish the evildoers"
6) "We don't torture."

The example of choking on a pretzel was being gentle. If successful it would have been the perfect sacrifice for him to have made for this country.

[Tim><]

Wrong, kaypee. I really don't care too much which end of the hose any president is playing with. I am concerned about their ability to perform state duties without puking on diplomats, choking on pretzels or declaring war in early dementia.

What is it with your oral fixation?

[Lee Mellon]

My oral fixation? hahahahahahahaha. Which group impeached a president for celebrating an oral fixation? hahahahahahaha

[Tim><]

My oral fixation? hahahahahahahaha. Which group impeached a president for celebrating an oral fixation? hahahahahahaha

I guess Karma Police must have been responsible for impeaching Clinton. :roll:

Now, is there something you wish to get off your chest?

[Lee Mellon]

Now, is there something you wish to get off your chest?
Yes, the oppressive weight of a neofascistic, plutocratic, thieving right wing government and their business cronies. The air would be so much fresher.

[Tim><]

Now, is there something you wish to get off your chest?
Yes, the oppressive weight of a neofascistic, plutocratic, thieving right wing government and their business cronies. The air would be so much fresher.

Yup. It sounds like all of your troubles come from without. :D

[Will Durant]

1) "Russia has been declared illegal, we start bombing in..."
Was a joke. And a damn funny one at that.

2) "I have no recollection..."
This is a Bill Clinton quote, right? I mean, RWR said it a few times, but Bill and Hillary were the masters of this one.

[Ronald Reagan]

1) "Russia has been declared illegal, we start bombing in..."
2) "I have no recollection..."

3) "Bring it on."
4) "Mission Accomplished"
5) "We will vanquish the evildoers"
6) "We don't torture."

The example of choking on a pretzel was being gentle. If successful it would have been the perfect sacrifice for him to have made for this country.

Remind me, how did he refer to his most recent conquest? Ahh, I seem to remember some steam coming from the guys who are currently blowing up our soldiers.

[Ronald Reagan]

1) "Russia has been declared illegal, we start bombing in..."
Was a joke. And a d*mn funny one at that.

2) "I have no recollection..."
This is a Bill Clinton quote, right? I mean, RWR said it a few times, but Bill and Hillary were the masters of this one.

Actually, I think it was made famous by a Fox News reporter who lied to a congressional panel for days at a time.

You see the law means nothing without the citizen's will to have it enforced. Often, this is very helpful to presidents who are high in the polls, such as a post-911 presidency, BJ Bill, and myself.