Israeli terrorism

[Anonymous]

This is what they mean when they say we have a double standard. Palestinians bomb an army post, Israel retaliates by demolishing civilian houses and kills 3 in a refugee camp. No wonder we look like hypocritical fools in the arab world.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010927/ts/israel_palestinians.html

[Hierophant]

Sure, that's why the Palestinians kept an exhibit of the Sbarro's with 19 killed for public viewing.

Netanyahu has said that Israel has lost 21,000 to terrorism. Not sure of the time frame.

[Patience]

We know for a fact the Palestinians blew up the pizza parlor & the bomb at the beach. But on this story you choose which side to believe.

"The army denied it entered a Palestinian area, saying the houses demolished were in a buffer zone near the border that is under Israeli security control. It said it demolished several houses that had served as cover for weapons smugglers and that underneath one house, soldiers found the entrance to a tunnel the army said was used in the attack on the military outpost a day earlier.

The Rafah refugee camp has been a trouble spot throughout the past year of Israeli-Palestinian fighting.

The camp was singled out in the Peres-Arafat meeting"

[alex]

why'd you cut off the rest of the quote about the peres-arafat meeting, patience? Nothing like quoting out of context! I don't know how israeli justified doing this while it was "observing a truce"

[Patience]

That was the end of the sentence.

The rest had to do with rebuilding the Army Outpost & the Palestinians sending forces to Rafah.

I printed the Israeli comments, all prior was the palestinian comments. What did I leave out?

[Actuary321]

On 2001-09-27 11:09, anon2 wrote:
This is what they mean when they say we have a double standard. Palestinians bomb an army post, Israel retaliates by demolishing civilian houses and kills 3 in a refugee camp. No wonder we look like hypocritical fools in the arab world.



Well if the Palestinians would just gather all their warriors into camps rather than having them live in civilian houses, Israel would not have to attack civilian houses to kill them.

In a war against terrorists, as we will see shortly, you have to strike where the terrorist are or where you are reasonably convinced they are. Many times this is and will be in civilian areas. Many times civilians will be hurt or killed in the attack. Some of these civilians will be innocent but of course some of these civilians will be collaborators or sympathizers.


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[Anonymous]

Israel doesn't attack camps because they house warriors. Israel attacks them to punish palestinian civilians for the attacks of their military.

Israel says "we can't take on your warriors, so we'll punish you by killing your civilians and blowing up your houses in refugee camps."

That's why Israel is a terrorist state, and that's why we'll never be able to have a non-hypocritical terrorism policy as long as we support them.


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[Huki]

Wow, anon4 knows the mind of Israel.

[Laocoön]

Deuteronomy 20:16-20:18 shows the mind-set of not a small number of Israelis.

[Griffin 1]

Impressive evidence, Lao.

[Laocoön]

Do you doubt that it is true, Griffin?

To save people from having to look it up, here are the aforementioned passages (KJV):


But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritence, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:
That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.

[Griffin 1]

Do I doubt that what is true, Lao? That these verses show the mindset of Israelis, that what you have quoted are these verses, or that the Bible is accurate?

[Laocoön]

On 2001-10-02 08:41, Laocoön wrote:
Deuteronomy 20:16-20:18 shows the mind-set of not a small number of Israelis.

[Griffin 1]

Yes, I believe that you wrote this.

[Laocoön]

I'd happily BUY you that belt, Griffin...

[Griffin 1]

Not impressed.

[Oliver Klozov]

"Well if the Palestinians would just gather all their warriors into camps rather than having them live in civilian houses, Isreal would not have to attack civilian houses to kill them."

This is the whole point. The Palestinian's do not have the resources to form an army. Their land was stolen from them and given to the Israeli's. Then the U.S. props up Israel by funding their entire military. Why is it again that the Palestinian's are angry?

[Actuary321]

The Palistinians used to have bases in Lebanon but Israel wiped them out so now they work out of very small cells in homes or refugee camps, which is where Israel is now hitting them. Where else should Israel attack/retaliate?

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[Guerilla poster]

I have never understood why car-bombing a pizza shop would further the Palestinian cause. Is it strictly to publicize their strife or to provoke Israel into an action which they can then criticize?

Perhaps, reasoning does not work.

[The Mister]

<font size=2>OK, I've stayed quiet about this for quite a while, because I know posts that do nothing more than correct grammar or spelling are considered rude, but I just can't take much more of this:

It's "Israel", not "Isreal".

"Isra-El" => "struggles (or wrestles) with God" [It's what God renamed Jacob after he wrestled all night with His angel (which some say was Jesus in pre-incarnate form).]

And no, Actuary321, you're not the only one who does this. Otherwise I'd probably keep quiet. (Instead, I have to open my big mouth) ((hands?))

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[Actuary321]

Mister, thanks for the lesson in Hebrew. I actually say it correctly but for some reason my fingers don't like to type it correctly. I really do wish this board had a built-in spellchecker.

[edit] After re-reading I see I was the only one misspelling it in this tread. As you can now see I have corrected that.

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[an2001on]

"The Palestinian's do not have the resources to form an army. "

It seems that there is an overwhelming support for Palestinians in the Arab world. With all the support from oil rich countries they can’t cough up some money for the Palestinian army? I mean, if the other Arab countries are so concerned with the well being of Palestinian people, they probably could help (and they do have money). Also, if they really want to help why would they keep their “brothers”, Palestinian refugees, in the closed camps for years and not allow them to be accepted in their own societies?