War in Iraq -

[The Drunken Actuary]

These are the reasons we went to war in Iraq. Put them in order of importance (from Bush's perspective).- masses of cheering Iraqi’s
- a democratic, stable and prosperous Iraq
- democracy spreading through the region
- piles of WMD and evidence that Saddam really was Hitler
- reform in Iran and Saudi Arabia
- Muslims saying “look, the US really helped our brothers in Iraq, they aren’t as bad as our terrorist dictators are telling us”
- cheap oil throughout the world
- grateful business buddies that will pay back later
- The UN realizing that the American way of solving problems is much better
- A tickertape parade in New York
- Gigantic domestic approval ratings

[Westley]

Important:
- piles of WMD and evidence that Saddam really was Hitler
- grateful business buddies that will pay back later
- "He tried to kill my daddy"

Somewhat important:
- The UN realizing that the American way of solving problems is much better
- Gigantic domestic approval ratings
- democracy spreading through the region
- the more ass-kicking, the more people will fear the US

Not important:
- masses of cheering Iraqi’s
- A tickertape parade in New York
- cheap oil throughout the world
- Muslims saying “look, the US really helped our brothers in Iraq, they aren’t as bad as our terrorist dictators are telling us”
- a democratic, stable and prosperous Iraq
- reform in Iran and Saudi Arabia



If domestic approval ratings was really key, it would have been done later (closer to the election).

[Happy Extinction]

I think he did it to piss off liberals.

[fallout]

These are the reasons we went to war in Iraq. Put them in order of importance (from Bush's perspective).- masses of cheering Iraqi’s
- a democratic, stable and prosperous Iraq
- democracy spreading through the region
- piles of WMD and evidence that Saddam really was Hitler
- reform in Iran and Saudi Arabia
- Muslims saying “look, the US really helped our brothers in Iraq, they aren’t as bad as our terrorist dictators are telling us”
- cheap oil throughout the world
- grateful business buddies that will pay back later
- The UN realizing that the American way of solving problems is much better
- A tickertape parade in New York
- Gigantic domestic approval ratings

As long as we're at it, put Kerry's in order too.

:)

[Zorro]

Let me help:
- Political suicide to vote against it
- Value of political career greater than value assigned to content of decision.

[fallout]

Let me help:
- Political suicide to vote against it
- Value of political career greater than content of decision.

So war is just a political game for Kerry?

[Zorro]

Let me help:
- Political suicide to vote against it
- Value of political career greater than content of decision.

So war is just a political game for Kerry?

War is a political game for everyone except the people on the receiving end.

[fallout]

Let me help:
- Political suicide to vote against it
- Value of political career greater than content of decision.

So war is just a political game for Kerry?

War is a political game for everyone except the people on the receiving end.

I think you are wrong.

I think you are very very wrong.

Damn I hope you are wrong.

[Zorro]

Let me help:
- Political suicide to vote against it
- Value of political career greater than content of decision.

So war is just a political game for Kerry?

War is a political game for everyone except the people on the receiving end.

I think you are wrong.

I think you are very very wrong.

d*mn I hope you are wrong.
I agree with you on #3.

[E. Blackadder]

Let me help:
- Political suicide to vote against it
- Value of political career greater than content of decision.

So war is just a political game for Kerry?

War is a political game for everyone except the people on the receiving end.

So war was a political game for the Germans through 1943, and not afterwards. Just to pick an easy example to work with.

[Zorro]

Let me help:
- Political suicide to vote against it
- Value of political career greater than content of decision.
So war is just a political game for Kerry?
War is a political game for everyone except the people on the receiving end.
So war was a political game for the Germans through 1943, and not afterwards. Just to pick an easy example to work with.
Yes.

You can take any statement to the extreme, please insert "generally".

If not a political game, what is war? A honest fight to promote ideologies, an attempt to help people in need, my politician is better than your politician or just for personal/national financial gain?

[whisper]

You forgot "Because he tried to kill my daddy!"

[Zorro]

You forgot "Because he tried to kill my daddy!"
True, what would the general category be for that? Other?

[2pac Shakur]

These are the reasons we went to war in Iraq. Put them in order of importance (from Bush's perspective).- masses of cheering Iraqi’s
- a democratic, stable and prosperous Iraq
- democracy spreading through the region
- piles of WMD and evidence that Saddam really was Hitler
- reform in Iran and Saudi Arabia
- Muslims saying “look, the US really helped our brothers in Iraq, they aren’t as bad as our terrorist dictators are telling us”
- cheap oil throughout the world
- grateful business buddies that will pay back later
- The UN realizing that the American way of solving problems is much better
- A tickertape parade in New York
- Gigantic domestic approval ratings

As long as we're at it, put Kerry's in order too.

:)

Kerry decided to go to war?
I thought it was Bush's decision.

[Tim><]

These are the reasons we went to war in Iraq. Put them in order of importance (from Bush's perspective).- masses of cheering Iraqi’s
- a democratic, stable and prosperous Iraq
- democracy spreading through the region
- piles of WMD and evidence that Saddam really was Hitler
- reform in Iran and Saudi Arabia
- Muslims saying “look, the US really helped our brothers in Iraq, they aren’t as bad as our terrorist dictators are telling us”
- cheap oil throughout the world
- grateful business buddies that will pay back later
- The UN realizing that the American way of solving problems is much better
- A tickertape parade in New York
- Gigantic domestic approval ratings

As long as we're at it, put Kerry's in order too.

:)

Kerry decided to go to war?
I thought it was Bush's decision.

It was the decision of Congress.

[2pac Shakur]

These are the reasons we went to war in Iraq. Put them in order of importance (from Bush's perspective).- masses of cheering Iraqi’s
- a democratic, stable and prosperous Iraq
- democracy spreading through the region
- piles of WMD and evidence that Saddam really was Hitler
- reform in Iran and Saudi Arabia
- Muslims saying “look, the US really helped our brothers in Iraq, they aren’t as bad as our terrorist dictators are telling us”
- cheap oil throughout the world
- grateful business buddies that will pay back later
- The UN realizing that the American way of solving problems is much better
- A tickertape parade in New York
- Gigantic domestic approval ratings

As long as we're at it, put Kerry's in order too.

:)

Kerry decided to go to war?
I thought it was Bush's decision.

It was the decision of Congress.

So Congress passed a formal declaration of war?

[Werewolf]

These are the reasons we went to war in Iraq. Put them in order of importance (from Bush's perspective).- masses of cheering Iraqi’s
- a democratic, stable and prosperous Iraq
- democracy spreading through the region
- piles of WMD and evidence that Saddam really was Hitler
- reform in Iran and Saudi Arabia
- Muslims saying “look, the US really helped our brothers in Iraq, they aren’t as bad as our terrorist dictators are telling us”
- cheap oil throughout the world
- grateful business buddies that will pay back later
- The UN realizing that the American way of solving problems is much better
- A tickertape parade in New York
- Gigantic domestic approval ratings

As long as we're at it, put Kerry's in order too.

:)

Kerry decided to go to war?
I thought it was Bush's decision.

It was the decision of Congress.

So Congress passed a formal declaration of war?

Congress authorized the president to use military force against a foe that was in violation of its cease-fire from its previous military action. Or something like that.

[2pac Shakur]

These are the reasons we went to war in Iraq. Put them in order of importance (from Bush's perspective).- masses of cheering Iraqi’s
- a democratic, stable and prosperous Iraq
- democracy spreading through the region
- piles of WMD and evidence that Saddam really was Hitler
- reform in Iran and Saudi Arabia
- Muslims saying “look, the US really helped our brothers in Iraq, they aren’t as bad as our terrorist dictators are telling us”
- cheap oil throughout the world
- grateful business buddies that will pay back later
- The UN realizing that the American way of solving problems is much better
- A tickertape parade in New York
- Gigantic domestic approval ratings

As long as we're at it, put Kerry's in order too.

:)

Kerry decided to go to war?
I thought it was Bush's decision.

It was the decision of Congress.

So Congress passed a formal declaration of war?

Congress authorized the president to use military force against a foe that was in violation of its cease-fire from its previous military action. Or something like that.

So the answer to my question is "NO".
Thanks!

[E. Blackadder]

If not a political game, what is war?
War is . . . an act of force to compel our enemy to do our will (http://www.clausewitz.com/CWZHOME/Quotations.html).

If you're making the point that war is politics because it is a form of interaction, then that's just tautilogical.

[Zorro]

If not a political game, what is war?
War is . . . an act of force to compel our enemy to do our will (http://www.clausewitz.com/CWZHOME/Quotations.html).

If you're making the point that war is politics because it is a form of interaction, then that's just tautilogical.
That about as informative as "war is an act where you shoot at people". Was Iraq an enemy before The Willing attacked it?

I spelled out the point I was making above.

[E. Blackadder]

come now. wars existed long before guns.

Your question is inexactly worded. Hussein has been an enemy for quite some time. He doesn't play nice, as evidenced by his encounters with the Kurds, the Iranians, and the Kuwaitis. About the only people he seems to like are the heroic Al Qaedians and relatives of palestinian suicide bombers.

Even when he was our "friend" that was more of a case of his being an "enemy of an enemy", Tupac's one-picture mega-slideshow to the contrary.

[Zorro]

come now. wars existed long before guns.

Your question is inexactly worded. Hussein has been an enemy for quite some time. He doesn't play nice, as evidenced by his encounters with the Kurds, the Iranians, and the Kuwaitis. About the only people he seems to like are the heroic Al Qaedians and relatives of palestinian suicide bombers.
Don't you have any kids to play these silly semantic games with?

[The Drunken Actuary]

come now. wars existed long before guns.

Your question is inexactly worded. Hussein has been an enemy for quite some time. He doesn't play nice, as evidenced by his encounters with the Kurds, the Iranians, and the Kuwaitis. About the only people he seems to like are the heroic Al Qaedians and relatives of palestinian suicide bombers.
Don't you have any kids to play these silly semantic games with?His kids don't care about post count either.

[E. Blackadder]

come now. wars existed long before guns.

Your question is inexactly worded. Hussein has been an enemy for quite some time. He doesn't play nice, as evidenced by his encounters with the Kurds, the Iranians, and the Kuwaitis. About the only people he seems to like are the heroic Al Qaedians and relatives of palestinian suicide bombers.
Don't you have any kids to play these silly semantic games with?


He who would argue with me must first define his terms.

or it may have been the Marquis De Sade.

[Zorro]

come now. wars existed long before guns.

Your question is inexactly worded. Hussein has been an enemy for quite some time. He doesn't play nice, as evidenced by his encounters with the Kurds, the Iranians, and the Kuwaitis. About the only people he seems to like are the heroic Al Qaedians and relatives of palestinian suicide bombers.
Don't you have any kids to play these silly semantic games with?His kids don't care about post count either.
That's what I figured.