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sock_man
04-23-2002, 04:08 PM
I am looking for some superstar exam takers for the AFL draft which is this Friday. If you have the name (& exam #) of a superstar exam taker (e.g. yourself, if you are confident that you'll pass) that you wouldn't mind distributing, please let me know.

Concept: The concept of an actuarial fantasy league is of a similar nature with fantasy football or rotisserie baseball. You and your office mates draft a roster of actuarial students and your team's success is determined by how those students perform on the actuarial exams.

Teams:
1. Teams shall consist of 9 players.
2. You must have someone sitting for each of exams being taken
3. You can also have 3 "Flex" players who can sit for any exams.
4. Players are mutually exclusive within a league. No one player can be owned by 2 people participating in the same league.
5. Owners within the league can be players and owned by other owners within the league.

Draft:
1. Order of the draft to be determined at the league's discretion.
*note* if your league has 10 or fewer owners a really actuarially appropriate way to assign draft order is to place the names in order, pick a random high digit of pi, and assign each person the next unique digit.
2. The initial draft should be carried out in a top to bottom--bottom to top format

3. Subsequent drafts should be bottom to top for each round
4. The draft should take place between 2 and 3 weeks before the first exam of the season.
Rosters:
1. After each round of exams, an owner may protect up to 4 members of their team in lieu of using the last 4 picks in the draft. If 2 or more of those are taking the same exam, the others must be "Flex" players. These protected players must be announced 1 week before the draft.
2. Trades are allowed in the period between the exams and the next draft.
Scoring:
1. You only get points for players who pass their exam. You get 11 points for exam 1, 12 for exam 2, etc.
2. If one of your players passes 2 exams in 1 sitting, you get a 5 point bonus. "the FRANCE"

3. If you have players pass exams 1, 2, 3, and 4 you get a 5 point bonus. "the Multiple Choice"

4. If you have players pass exams 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 or 6, you get another 5 point bonus. "the ASA"

Winning:
1. After each round of exams, you will have both a round winner and an overall leader

2. The overall leader standings should be based on the previous 2 exams and present exam.

Toonces
04-23-2002, 05:00 PM
What a completely interesting (though nutty) idea you have there, sock_man. Though I don't know who you'll find with the balls to taut themselves as a "sure-pass" on a public forum 3 weeks before the test. Imagine the ribbing if they got a 5.

sock_man
04-23-2002, 05:08 PM
I agree it's a nutty idea. We're in our 2nd season (sitting) and I need to improve from last sitting.

Networking is key. Beyond that, you need to rely on the pass lists on the SOA website.

About 6 years ago, a bunch of friends and I started a college football fantasy league where you choose from a set of teams (SEC, ACC,. & Big East), but with the AFL the possibilities are endless!!!

Macroman
04-23-2002, 06:21 PM
...while I think I will pass, I will not be playing as a contestant or a AFL player.

sock_man
04-24-2002, 12:31 PM
C'mon macroman,
Join a winning team!!!

=)

I understand not wanting your name in our fantasy league, even though it is just for fun. The funny thing is that I only knew one my "players" last time. I got all the rest from the pass lists on the SOA website.

Toonces
04-24-2002, 12:34 PM
Perhaps you'll get a better response if you leave your e-mail address instead of asking people to post their names.

sock_man
04-24-2002, 01:03 PM
ray.len@bcbsfl.com

sock_man
04-24-2002, 02:12 PM
Thanks Toonces for the suggestion!!

WhyNot?
04-25-2002, 09:14 AM
Wow! The AFL! What a way to take some stress off of the exam process (or really add to the stress if you are one of the chosen to pass). I am not willing to give my name as a definite pass this time, but I will give you 2 names that I feel confident will pass (I hope these people don't check this forum). The first I feel really confident about is sitting for Course 4. I actually have a bet with someone he will pass this time. His name is Phillip Simms (not to be confused with the quarterback). The second I am not as sure about because she did not sit last time, but she started studying for a long time ago for Course 6. She also has a lot of motivation to pass as this will make her an ASA. Her name is Sondra Morse. Please understand I do not guarantee these people will pass. Please do not come looking for me if they don't. Good luck to you in your AFL.

P.S. If I wanted to start on of these AFL's where I work, what would I need to do? How many AFL's are there?

rawl316
04-25-2002, 11:13 AM
are you guys kidding me?? Instead of starting an AFL team and digging through old pass lists to see who passed, wouldn't it be better to study? First, I don't even know that many actuaries. Second, after reading this posting, I'm ashamed to be an actuary. I guess all those rumors of us being dorks are completely true, as demonstrated by this great idea.

sock_man
04-25-2002, 11:44 AM
WhyNot
send me an email and I'll send you our "rules" to help you get a league of your own started. I am not sure how many leagues are out there, but it is spreading like wildfire. We just had an expansion draft a couple weeks ago.

rawl316
On studying... I am through with exams
On being a dork and ashamed of being an actuary... you are very foolish.

it's obvious you are NOT AN ACTUARY since you don't know many, but rather a student attempting to become one. Good luck.

rawl316
04-25-2002, 01:16 PM
That has to be one of the most condescending things I've heard about me "being" an actuary. Good job on passing your exams. However, let's talk about your other claims. It's pretty ridiculous that you have to know a lot of actuaries to be one. Maybe I missed reading that part as a requirement for being an FSA. It's also funny cause my best friends are actuaries. I mean what if someone is a teacher, but doesn't know any? I guess her label is now someone that assists children in learning. Have fun with your actuarial league and digging through old pass lists. I'll stick to real fantasy football.

sock_man
04-25-2002, 03:29 PM
the "knowing" actuaries flew right over your head. You'll get it eventually, but for now get back to the books.
Best of luck.

wookinpanub
04-26-2002, 11:37 AM
The afl (pronounced affel?) sounds like a great idea. the more fun the merrier. let us know how your draft goes. :wink: