Bush fixed the 2004 election!

[Tim><]

I am just setting this thread up in advance. I am sure that many of you will be needing this thread in a couple of months.

[Guerilla poster]

I can only think of one poster who buys into that.

[Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.]

i thought shrub was gonna win?

[Kaput Shakur]

You're late, Tim.

Trevor's been saying Bush will win with an assist from Diebold for some time now.

[Guerilla poster]

I suspect 2pac is happier if bush wins.

[Father of two]

I suspect 2pac is happier if bush wins.

I think he is the only lefty who could handle a Bush win.

[2pac Shakur]

United States Supreme Court:
We put the "W" in the White House.

[jingle47]

Golly, 2Pac
I really wish you would study up on your US History. I am sure this has been discussed before, but your implications that the US supreme court decided anything in the 2000 election debacle is innacurate at best.

[2pac Shakur]

I could've sworn the Supreme Court made a decision affecting the 2000 vote.
Guess it must've been a nightmare.

[jingle47]

ok, technically you are correct, they made a decision(5-4) to not make a decision.

[2pac Shakur]

Here's a good article on it...

(AP) A month after the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision that gave George W. Bush the presidency, dissenting Justice David Souter said he could have won over Justice Anthony Kennedy with just another day, according to a new book by a Newsweek reporter.

David A. Kaplan wrote that Souter made the comment while discussing the matter in private with a group of prep school students.

Souter said if he had "one more day — one more day," he could have convinced Kennedy to vote with the dissenters and Congress might have been charged with handling the controversy.

The book, titled "The Accidental President," is previewed in the Sept. 17 issue of Newsweek magazine. Kaplan says the book will dissect how the government handled the 2000 election, which came down to who won Florida.

President Bush was declared the winner over Al Gore 36 days after the voting, following the Supreme Court decision that effectively halted a partial recount in Florida.

For part of the book, Kaplan focuses on Souter, who wanted Congress to decide what to do.

"While a political resolution to the election might not be quick and might be a brawl, Souter argued that the nation would still accept it," Kaplan wrote. Souter tried desperately to get Kennedy to vote with the minority, according to the book, but he wouldn't flip.

"He thought the trauma of more recounts, more fighting — more politics — was too much for the country to endure," Kaplan wrote.

The book also reveals that several of the judges had a spat in front of several Russian judges during an exchange program meeting after the vote.

Kaplan wrote that during a meeting, a Russian judge criticized the nation for letting judges choose the president.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/10/politics/main310425.shtml

[jingle47]

It's funny that you quote an article quoting that book. I read that book cover to cover....It was a great read. ANd that is where I get my conclusion that the supreme court really did not make a decision, they basically repremanded the FL supreme court and pointed out how what they had done was unconstituional. In the end the Supreme court did not want to mess with a "State" decision. THe 5-4 argument came about because they could not agree on what the best way to preserve "Florida's Rights" were. I strongly reccomend reading the book, it is entertaining and full of potential conspiracies both sides can enjoy.

[Mike and Maddog]

How can we be sure the book isn't a forgery? After all, it was an article by CBS.

[11pecans]

Didn't bush win all the recounts?

[2pac Shakur]

Didn't bush win all the recounts?

No.

[11pecans]

Didn't bush win all the recounts?

No.

Got a link?

[Will Durant]

Didn't bush win all the recounts?No.
Your wrong. But what's new?

[2pac Shakur]

Didn't bush win all the recounts?No.
Your wrong. But what's new?

1. Media Consortium Statewide Count of "Undervotes" and "Overvotes" Proves Gore Won Under ANY Standard

The Media Consortium hired the National Opinion Research Center to examine 175,010 ballots that were never counted in Florida. The investigation took 8 months and cost $900,000. No matter what standard for judging ballots is applied, Gore wins.

http://democrats.com/display.cfm?id=181%20

[Griffin 2]

Souter said if he had "one more day — one more day," he could have convinced Kennedy to vote with the dissenters and Congress might have been charged with handling the controversy.Insert laughing smily thing at "one more day - one more day", and a rolly eye thing at turning it over to Congress.

[Will Durant]

Didn't bush win all the recounts?No.
Your wrong. But what's new?

1. Media Consortium Statewide Count of "Undervotes" and "Overvotes" Proves Gore Won Under ANY Standard

The Media Consortium hired the National Opinion Research Center to examine 175,010 ballots that were never counted in Florida. The investigation took 8 months and cost $900,000. No matter what standard for judging ballots is applied, Gore wins.

http://democrats.com/display.cfm?id=181%20

1. That's not a recount.

2. "No matter what standard" except the standard that was actually in place for counting ballots ON ELECTION DAY!!! By that standard ... as opposed to the "hanging chad" or "pregnant chad" or "voter intent" standard, Bush wins. He won every single count!! Will you PLEASE stop :horse: .

[11pecans]

Didn't bush win all the recounts?No.
Your wrong. But what's new?

1. Media Consortium Statewide Count of "Undervotes" and "Overvotes" Proves Gore Won Under ANY Standard

The Media Consortium hired the National Opinion Research Center to examine 175,010 ballots that were never counted in Florida. The investigation took 8 months and cost $900,000. No matter what standard for judging ballots is applied, Gore wins.

http://democrats.com/display.cfm?id=181%20


hmmm

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/main.html

Florida recount study: Bush still wins

Study reveals flaws in ballots, voter errors may have cost Gore victory


A county employee shows a ballot to a National Opinion Research Center coding team. The coders marked their observations on specially designed, triplicate coding forms. They were not allowed to confer.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A comprehensive study of the 2000 presidential election in Florida suggests that if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed a statewide vote recount to proceed, Republican candidate George W. Bush would still have been elected president.

[2pac Shakur]

Didn't bush win all the recounts?No.
Your wrong. But what's new?

1. Media Consortium Statewide Count of "Undervotes" and "Overvotes" Proves Gore Won Under ANY Standard

The Media Consortium hired the National Opinion Research Center to examine 175,010 ballots that were never counted in Florida. The investigation took 8 months and cost $900,000. No matter what standard for judging ballots is applied, Gore wins.

http://democrats.com/display.cfm?id=181%20


hmmm

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/main.html

Florida recount study: Bush still wins

Study reveals flaws in ballots, voter errors may have cost Gore victory


A county employee shows a ballot to a National Opinion Research Center coding team. The coders marked their observations on specially designed, triplicate coding forms. They were not allowed to confer.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A comprehensive study of the 2000 presidential election in Florida suggests that if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed a statewide vote recount to proceed, Republican candidate George W. Bush would still have been elected president.


I guess you didn't read the question?

[Tim><]

Go Bush!!!

[Wannabe Actuary]

no need, but he sucks