View Full Version : Screen too wide
Numbers Nerd
05-08-2002, 01:31 PM
This should be easy to fix for somebody...I all of a sudden have to scroll left and right in order to see the whole screen. What's up?
glenn
05-08-2002, 01:40 PM
I've inserted a banner ad, and have been playing with the formatting. Banner ads are a standard width, and combined with the other stuff already at the top of the screen, the entire page may be wider than it was before. Or it may just be that you caught me when I was testing.
The code is now stable, are you still having the problem? If so, I may have to tinker a bit with the headers so that everything fits. Let me know.
glenn
Traci
05-08-2002, 01:43 PM
Yes - it's still too wide.
Can we move the collection in the upper right corner down and to the left just a tad?
urysohn
05-08-2002, 01:44 PM
Still a problem....Could you put the banner ad above or below the "Rebel Outpost" title stuff instead of to the left of it?
glenn
05-08-2002, 01:55 PM
I'll work on it shortly. Thanks for your patience.
glenn
05-08-2002, 02:01 PM
BTW, personally I'm impressed with our first banner ad. Fits in well with the forum I think. And it's all text, so download time won't be affected.
openminded
05-08-2002, 02:17 PM
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Mel-o-rama
05-08-2002, 04:49 PM
Way too wide. I came here to complain, but I see you are already working on it.
And it's all text, so download time won't be affected.
Good point, nothing worse than those images slowing down everything. I would only use images in threads where you want to discourage people from posting. :D
ASA_Woman
05-08-2002, 05:00 PM
:lol:
Packet_Storm
05-08-2002, 06:59 PM
Is is paid by just clicking or some other silly metric?
glenn
05-08-2002, 10:07 PM
No, advertisers are charged a flat fee (fees are available on the actuary.ca homepage). There's two reasons for this - first we're not using the common 'click thru' ad companies that charge that way, and secondly the site generates enough traffic that charging reasonable rates based on traffic would be too expensive. Oh, and I guess the third reason is that then I'd have to set up something to track all that mess, instead of just saying 'your ad runs out in XX days' :D .
frummie
05-09-2002, 12:58 PM
Too wide for me.
Numbers Nerd
05-09-2002, 01:22 PM
Still too wide...
Numbers Nerd
05-09-2002, 01:24 PM
Still too wide...
Mel-o-rama
05-09-2002, 01:31 PM
Still too wide...
and still too wide.
Double High C
05-10-2002, 09:17 AM
Still too WIDE
and I thought wide screens went out around the late 1970s.
It is wide here at work but at home it is not. Why, I don't know.
ASA_Woman
05-10-2002, 09:48 AM
It is wide here at work but at home it is not. Why, I don't know.
Same here.
Maine-iac
05-10-2002, 10:20 AM
It is wide here at work but at home it is not. Why, I don't know.
Just the opposite. It's fine here at work. Wide at home.
Gandalf
05-10-2002, 10:31 AM
Same as Maine-iac.
Maybe it's Maine-iac I'm married to and not Flora? So hard to remember. (I never forget my main squeeze.)
Last night I logged in from a public library, and it was also too wide there.
Mel-o-rama
05-10-2002, 10:49 AM
Still too wide.
glenn
05-10-2002, 10:54 AM
Screen resolutions are different. I've got my screen set to high res, which is why I didn't catch this.
On your desktop (no windows open), right-click on a blank spot. This will bring up a menu.
Select 'properties'.
Click on the 'Settings' tab.
There's a slider for 'Screen Area'. Slide it across to select a higher resolution.
Click on 'OK' or 'Apply'. You may need to reboot.
However, I'm not asking that anyone change their screen resolution. I'll get the width problem under control shortly.
glenn
Anonymous
05-12-2002, 12:44 PM
The screen is too wide at my home and office. The ad is the problem. I have experience changing screen resolution prior to this conflict. It may help some but not all.
Pseudolus
05-13-2002, 09:48 AM
Can someone repost Cho Da's workaround for changing the screen font size? I think it had something to do with accessibility options, but I didn't save it at the time and can't find it now. (When I upsize my screen res to fix the width problem, my fonts go all teensy-tiny.) :o
glenn
05-13-2002, 09:58 AM
Right click on an empty area of your desktop, displaying a menu.
Select properties.
Click on the 'settings' tab.
Click on 'Advanced' (bottom left).
There is a drop down list for the font sizes. I believe you'll have to reboot.
Sorry about this. I PROMISE PROMISE PROMISE I'll get this fixed this week. :oops:
Pseudolus
05-13-2002, 10:14 AM
Funny. That doesn't change the message text size at all, but it makes the banner ad text HUGE.
(Take your time, Glenn. My company has excellent optomotrist coverage. :o :) )
Cho Da
05-13-2002, 10:15 AM
Can someone repost Cho Da's workaround for changing the screen font size? I think it had something to do with accessibility options, but I didn't save it at the time and can't find it now. (When I upsize my screen res to fix the width problem, my fonts go all teensy-tiny.) :o
In IE, Tools, Internet Options..., Accessability..., Ignore font sizes...
Glenn,
It looks like the banner is in the same table as the main header. Since the banner is fixed width as are the little menu (FAQ, Search...) that is causing the problem. The number of nested tables here is incredible, no wonder the table tags in messages caused so much havoc. When I try to debug tables, I add a style sheet that shows the borders:table {
border: 1px solid lime !important;
}
td, th {
border: 1px solid pink !important;
}This can be added temporarily in IE in the same accessability dialog box: Format documents using user style sheet.
Pseudolus
05-13-2002, 10:17 AM
In IE, Tools, Internet Options..., Accessability..., Ignore font sizes...
That fixed it. Thanks a bunch, CD!
glenn
05-13-2002, 10:51 AM
Whoops, I misunderstood. The procedure I gave you will change the font sizes on your desktop, which is what I thought you were looking for.
The board software forces a specific pixel size for the letters, instead of just saying 'larger' or 'smaller' - and it's why you can't tinker with the sizes very easily. It's also considered either rude or poor practice to do this - in fact I believe it is against accessability guidelines, but hey, I didn't write the code :). I looked at it briefly, but they have a peculiar setup for this - it's half integrated into the admin panel. This is something that I will have to investigate before I can just go changing it.
Cho da, thanks for the fix. And you're correct, the number of tables here is large. The code for the board is best described as bloated (I use the table border myself when things get goofy). Due to the width of the banner ad, I've got to set it into its own row, which means I've got to rearrange a few other things. Then I'll break something, then Traci will yell at me, oh poor me...... :viola: :D
I have asked about the problem dropping poll questions, and was pretty much told to install the latest version of the forum. Remember the fun we had last time we upgraded software?
glenn
Dr T Non-Fan
05-13-2002, 12:21 PM
Please, just fix it.
And does this mean we (I) have to be nice to the sponsor? I've tried to be civil, but this too-wide business could SNAP me.
Dr T Non-Fan
05-13-2002, 12:23 PM
Instead of squeezing the ad in, thereby pushing everything to the right, just put it on top, and push everything down.
Just a suggestion. As usual, it comes after a few seconds of analyzing what is best for the whole forum.
The Drunken Actuary
05-13-2002, 12:26 PM
I agree with #3. This too wide business is very irritating. Please fix it.
Cho Da
05-13-2002, 12:44 PM
The board software forces a specific pixel size for the letters, instead of just saying 'larger' or 'smaller' - and it's why you can't tinker with the sizes very easily. It's also considered either rude or poor practice to do this - in fact I believe it is against accessability guidelines, but hey, I didn't write the code .phpBB uses "pixels" for font size in its stylesheets. IMO they chose too few (especially for these edit boxes). The bigger problem is Microshaft IE which does not allow text zooming. The CSS standard for length units (http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1#length-units) says this about pixels:Pixel units, as used in the last rule, are relative to the resolution of the canvas, i.e. most often a computer display. If the pixel density of the output device is very different from that of a typical computer display, the UA should rescale pixel values. The suggested reference pixel is the visual angle of one pixel on a device with a pixel density of 90dpi and a distance from the reader of an arm's length. For a nominal arm's length of 28 inches, the visual angle is about 0.0227 degrees.UA is "User Agent" aka browser. IE doesn't do this, Netscape (6) and Opera (5) do.
Ah, now it's perfect! Thank you. You must pay DeeTeeEnEf a consulting fee for his suggetion, Glenn.
Cho Da
05-13-2002, 01:07 PM
Very nice! Now you can fit the Google widget in next to the ad <grin>.
glenn
05-13-2002, 01:19 PM
Please, just fix it.
Done. Because you asked. To everyone else, I was stone deaf. Don't say we don't do anything for you around here :D .
And does this mean we (I) have to be nice to the sponsor? I've tried to be civil, but this too-wide business could SNAP me.
You should try to be nice to *everybody*.
Dr T Non-Fan
05-13-2002, 01:24 PM
Oh, Glenn knows how he can pay me back.
I mean he's changing the format, apparently without Queenie's command.
Pseudolus
05-13-2002, 01:30 PM
Wonderful! Thanks a bunch, Glenn. You don't get this kind of service just anywhere.
Moderator1
05-13-2002, 01:34 PM
Oh, Glenn knows how he can pay me back.
I mean he's changing the format, apparently without Queenie's command.
Not really without her command. She just gave him limited discretion in carrying out her command. Here's the complete text of the PM that went to Glenn and all the mods:
"Glenn, please make the index page longer. Use the extra space to do one of the following, whichever will be more valuable to our members.
1. Relocate the banner ad.
2. Create separate sections for each exam"
"Glenn, please make the index page longer. Use the extra space to do one of the following, whichever will be more valuable to our members.
1. Relocate the banner ad.
2. Create separate sections for each exam"
Oh, Moderator1, you ARE cruel! LOL! Stop teasing the boy!
openminded
05-13-2002, 01:44 PM
Thank you.
Dr T Non-Fan
05-13-2002, 01:59 PM
Sigh, I still exist...
Mel-o-rama
05-13-2002, 03:18 PM
Perfect width!
Skinnier is better-er!
urysohn
05-13-2002, 03:37 PM
Just noticed the new banner setup...Much better! It took me a while - it's nice when you don't notice something because it's just right :)
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