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10-05-2001, 01:16 AM
Just saw clips of my buds new movie. Awesome!!!
10-05-2001, 08:51 AM
I heard they have to redo a key sequence where he climbs up between the twin towers.
When is it due out?
10-05-2001, 09:43 AM
What I think is very interesting is that they SHOW the part they have to re-do on newscasts, saying "this is the scene that is offensive" - I guess they can leave it in now, since we've ALL SEEN IT!!!
10-05-2001, 09:58 AM
I am assuming it is offensive as a prop for entertainment.
But, there is nothing wrong with showing it as part of a news story. Otherwise all the news I've seen for the last 3+ weeks would be in the offensive category. It is overwhelming, and over done, though.
For entertainment purposes everyone will be overly cautious about people's feelings for a while.
10-05-2001, 11:43 AM
The portion of the Spider-Man film edited only existed in the trailer. Spidey snags a copter full of bank thieves, and sticks them in a giant web strung between the two WTC towers. The scene was never in the actual movie.
The trailer looks great. The scenes of him webbing through the city are incredible! I believe it's due out May of 2002.
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The Drunken Actuary
05-04-2002, 12:11 PM
I believe you are right Supergirl.
05-05-2002, 10:56 PM
I was not quite so impressed as nacho (maybe 7/10 for a rating). Tobey Maguire did a great job as Peter Parker/Spidey, and the rest of the cast was at worst OK. But the plot seemed to move in fits and starts, and somehow not even Dafoe's scenery-chewing could quite make the Green Goblin work.
05-05-2002, 11:57 PM
I liked it.
The Goblin's costume looked too much like armor(well, it was, in fact, armor) and not enough like a Goblin. Since the trailers only showed brief glimpses, I got the impression that the Scorpion and Venom were in this movie, but it was just the Green Goblin.
The Drunken Actuary
05-06-2002, 12:08 AM
And to think, a certain somebody thought I was wasting time bringing up such an old thread. I mean, why start a new one when there's already one here?
05-06-2002, 12:36 AM
So, is it suitable for a 7 year old? What about a 5 year old? My wife's not interested in these types of movies so I have to drag my kids along (3 washroom breaks during Star Wars, including one in the middle of the race scene :-)).
05-06-2002, 09:35 AM
Yes, I think it's probably suitable. I went this weekend to see it and there were a LOT of kids there. There were only a couple of kissing scenes. The kid next to me (probably 6 or 7) covered his eyes, which I thought was cute! The language is pretty clean. There was only one fight scene the kid next to me got a little afraid.
I thought it was a great movie. I'd even go so far to say that I'll probably rent it when it comes out - and I never re-see movies! Enjoy!
05-06-2002, 09:38 AM
I don't know that, if I had kids, I'd take them. Go with a friend, leave the kids with your wife, and offer to watch them for her next time there's some silly chick flick she wants to go see. :D
I've read at least one review saying it was too intense for little kids.
The PG-13 label has got to be there for a reason, yes?
05-06-2002, 10:30 AM
People do die in the movie, so I really don't know about a 5-year-old.
10 and up I see no problem.
The Catholic Bishops gave it A-III, Adults, which has me stumped, given they seemed to be getting a bit more relaxed recently and the violence in the film is not without consequence.
05-06-2002, 10:35 AM
I was a little surprised at that one, too, after I saw it. I'd have gone with an A-II. Their actual review was pretty positive, though.
05-06-2002, 12:17 PM
I thought it was PG-13 due to the wet t-shirt contest. That's probably why the Catholics rated it A-III.
05-06-2002, 12:26 PM
I found it a bit on the violent side, so I'd be cautious with kids.
I found the movie entertaining and a few scenes were memorable, but there was nothing that pushed it from pretty good to great.
gives a pretty good review of movies, as far as objectionable material is concerned.
05-06-2002, 01:11 PM
There was a wet t-shirt contest?
Did I miss something? I'll have to go see it again...
Aunt May's potty mouth was a bit surprising, but the character needed a bit of sprucing up. I'm glad they finally gave her a clue in the comic book(she found Peter sleeping off a battle in his apartment with his tattered costume and webshooters on the dresser).
05-06-2002, 01:14 PM
When Spidey rescues MJ in the rain, the aforesaid rain affects her clothing.
Nacho, I admit to not reading the comic books, but I didn't have trouble with the stuff you mentioned. But, for whatever reason, I started looking at my watch about 20 minutes before the end of the movie.
BTW, how does he get the daylights beat out of him in that last battle with GG, and yet show up at the funeral with nary a visible bruise? Is accelerated healing part of his spider powers? (And if so, why doesn't his arm heal up faster?)
05-06-2002, 01:25 PM
Obi: Yes, part of Spider-Man's powers is that he heals more quickly, but not super quick. The cut on his arm would remain like it did (probably an hour at most before Norman saw it), but the funeral may have taken place several days after the final battle.
Dr T Non-Fan
05-06-2002, 02:08 PM
My older son (8) was invited to see this on Saturday. I objected, of course, but Mother prevailed.
Dr T Non-Fan
05-06-2002, 02:51 PM
That's what an 8 with a right parenthesis will do.
05-06-2002, 03:31 PM
I enjoyed the movie, but would not consider taking my kids (currently 6 and 9). Of course, they lead fairly sheltered lifes...
I would have rathered that Peter Parker had more science-guy to him, as was the case in the comics. Making the web-shooters mechanical is just way less creepy than how the movie handled it.
Dr T Non-Fan
05-06-2002, 03:41 PM
I'd go to the movie for the Kirsten-value, but I can wait. Besides, my yearly movie budget will be blown in about 10 days.
05-06-2002, 04:27 PM
How could anyone have not noticed the wet T-shirt scene? But I have to say other than that scene, Kirsten is not all that great.
But it was still a good movie. Probably the best of the movies based on comic characters. It will be interesting to see what they do with the Hulk.
05-06-2002, 04:41 PM
Probably the best of the movies based on comic characters.
That would be Superman II. Its memory is tarnished by the dreadful sequels and by being shown chopped up too often on late night TV, but it was, and is, a great movie, even without CGI effects. (And I don't care that the average opinion on IMDB is against me. They're wrong.)
This movie made $114 million dollars in 3 days. Wow! I'll watch it next week.
05-07-2002, 10:05 AM
I expect Spidey II, with less need for exposition, to be a better movie, though.
05-07-2002, 10:14 AM
Wait a minute here. Isn't Superman II the one where his parents warn him NEVER to alter time, or something horrible will happen, then Lois dies and he goes ahead and alters time anyway to save her, and NOTHING BAD HAPPENS?
Never could quite appreciate the film because of that.
05-07-2002, 10:21 AM
No, that was Superman I. Superman II is the one where he's fighting the other Krypton people.
Lex Luthor: What a mess, what a mess...all of that accumulated knowledge and they still never heard of a doorknob...
05-07-2002, 01:16 PM
I was engaging in hyperbole, and had no wish to offend someone named after of my favorite snack foods. Perhaps if I had been more knowledgable about the ol' web-slinger, I would have enjoyed the movie more. Or perhaps I should merely have said, "De gustibus non est disputandum (http://www.sacklunch.net/Latin/D/degustibusnonestdisputandum.html)".
05-08-2002, 01:11 PM
I saw Lucy Lawless's name in the credits but couldn't remember seeing her in the movie, nor could my friend. Was she the singer at Oscorp Peace Fair (or whatever it is)?
05-08-2002, 01:36 PM
Thank you (I think).
05-08-2002, 10:06 PM
IMDB lists Stan Lee in the credits, but doesn't say what role he played. My friend and I were guessing that the bits where Peter was sketching out costumes were shot over Stan's shoulder with him doing the actual drawing. Anyone know if that's correct?
05-13-2002, 10:52 AM
Nothing that dramatic. Lee had an original cameo of a guy selling sunglasses on the street. He was going to offer them to Peter Parker as he was walking by and say something like "This is the kind they wore in X-Men."
When they made their final cuts, they cut that cameo out. But Lee was part of a crowd at Times Square. Apparently he can be seen in the crowd behind the villains in the corner of the screen. I didn't catch it, myself.
They are hoping to add the cameo on the street when it goes to video.
It looked to me like he showed up during the initial confrontation with the Green Goblin at the big street fair. When all hell broke loose, it looked like it was he who pulled a small child out of the path of falling debris.
05-13-2002, 12:26 PM
After seeing it last week - I would agree with the assessment of the web shooters - liked it much better when he made his own, and developed the web fluid using his nerdy chemical expertise, along with the inate spider intelligence he inherited.
The other question I had was Mary Jane - Kirsten Dunst aside, which was so-so, I thought the character was all wrong. Maybe it was because it was suppose to represent a modern day Queens neighborhood Mary Jane. But in my youth, MJ was more of a very shapely, had it all together, out-going, preppy MJ who was the girl of his dreams, and while she lived on the street, she didn't live next door.
She also came into the picture late - because for awhile in the early Spiderman he was torn between MJ and Gwen.
In the movie MJ was the white-trash, broken home, slutty girl next door - quite a different picture from the early comic book MJ.
I too found the mechanical looking Green Goblin suit a little more offputting then the original Green Goblin outfit of the early comics.
My son was disappointed, because based on the TV show, he though Gwen and the Green Goblin were lost in another dimension.
Artistically - I thought it was a great movie - the action scenes were good - and they pulled off the web-slinging thru the cities well too.
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