Bilingual Education

[Griffin 1]

Is there still anyone left who thinks this is a good idea?

[The Drunken Actuary]

Yes.

[Griffin 1]

How did you find this one?

[The Drunken Actuary]

Just hanging around the forum when I should be studying. It was on page ten. Why?

[mother goose]

You two are missing your third Musketeer, DTNF. You look incomplete.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: mother goose on 2002-02-08 22:32 ]</font>

[The Drunken Actuary]

Are you filling in for him tonight?

[The Drunken Actuary]

Not fair to edit as I am responding.

[mother goose]

I'm afraid I'm not in DTNF's league.

I really should be studying! But chatting with the two of you seems to be more interesting at the moment.

[The Drunken Actuary]

I actually am studying, though not accomplishing much at the moment.

[mother goose]

What are you studying? SOA or CAS exam?

[The Drunken Actuary]

SOA. What about you?

[Griffin 1]

I thought you were taking part 2 (which is both).

[The Drunken Actuary]

Actually, my response was "SOA, or technically both." But I changed it to just SOA to be more mysterious.

[The Drunken Actuary]

OK, back to the subject at hand. Do you meant teaching schools in Spanish or teaching Spanish in schools?

[Captain America]

On 2001-09-10 21:01, Griffin wrote:
Is there still anyone left who thinks this is a good idea?


Do you think it's a good idea?

[The Drunken Actuary]

I'd be willing to bet he does not. Unless he thinks this too is a religion and subject to the first amendment.

[Griffin 1]

Even if it was, it is an issue that would require a decision, unlike, say, the origin of life.

[Amateur Linguist]

Is there still anyone left who thinks this [bilingual education] is a good idea?

Although popular opinion these days seems to condemn bilingual education entirely, many who have studied the issue take the opposite point of view. To learn abut the unpopular side of the argument, you could start by looking into the section on bilingual education at James Crawford's Language Policy Website:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JWCRAWFORD/biling.htm

[Griffin 1]

What a fine article. Any undergraduate studying logical fallacies should use this article to see how many he or she can find.

[Captain America]

On 2002-02-09 08:45, Griffin wrote:
What a fine article. Any undergraduate studying logical fallacies should use this article to see how many he or she can find.


My sentiments exactly.

[mother goose]

On 2002-02-08 23:08, TDA wrote:
SOA. What about you?


I'm taking the JB exam.

Tangent: I grew up having to learn 3 languages. Only one was used for instruction in school. The other two were taught in school and all 3 were spoken outside of school.

[Captain America]

Does anyone else find it funny that mother's tangent was closer to being "thread related" than her primary post?

[mother goose]

On 2002-02-09 10:03, Captain America wrote:
Does anyone else find it funny that mother's tangent was closer to being "thread related" than her primary post?


Just trying to be funny. Glad you noticed.

[The Drunken Actuary]

On 2002-02-09 10:03, Captain America wrote:
Does anyone else find it funny that mother's tangent was closer to being "thread related" than her primary post?

Moderately humorous.

[Griffin 1]

What would it take for mg to make the post more than moderately humorous?

[The Drunken Actuary]

It wasn't your post that was moderately humorous. There have been several LOLs lately. Usually there is some mention of the word rightocrat in them.

[Griffin 1]

"mg" refers to mother goose.

[The Drunken Actuary]

Yes, I know. That was the one that I thought was moderately humorous. Then you asked how you could get one above that level and I responded. It appeared that you thought I was implying that you were only moderately humorous, when in fact it was mg that I was referring to.

[Captain America]

I sometimes find moderates to be humorous too. But not nearly as humorous as liberals.

[The Drunken Actuary]

Rightocrats are downright hilarious.

[Captain America]

I like you, TDA, but you're beginning to sound like GP's puppet.

[Griffin 1]

On 2002-02-09 11:23, TDA wrote:
Then you asked how you could get one above that level and I responded.

I asked how could mg get one above that level.

[The Drunken Actuary]

I misread it. I thought you said 'me'. I wondered why you didn't think I knew what 'mg' would refer to. My mistake.

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[The Drunken Actuary]

On 2002-02-09 23:46, Captain America wrote:
I like you, TDA, but you're beginning to sound like GP's puppet.

Someone has to throw around the word rightocrat in here on the weekends. :smile:

[Captain America]

On 2002-02-10 08:09, TDA wrote:

On 2002-02-09 23:46, Captain America wrote:
I like you, TDA, but you're beginning to sound like GP's puppet.

Someone has to throw around the word rightocrat in here on the weekends. :smile:


I hadn't thought of that!

[The Drunken Actuary]

:smile:

[Dr T Non-Fan]

OK, back to topic.
This morning on NPR, there was a story about Mexicans settling near Gettysburg, PA. Apparently there is some crop work, there, and their children go there and expect to get an education.

1. Should farms be taxed a little bit more for the extra school expenses they cause?

2. How should W's "schools will be accountable" philosophy be modified to account for influxes of non-English speaking children?

3. If there is some exclusion of test scores for ESL students, how long should it be (the claim is 3 years), and how should these children be tracked (due to the migratory nature of their families)?

4. How should the ESL students' progress be measured?

Just looking for open-minded discussion here. I've seen it before, so there's reason for the hoping.


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[The Mister]

On 2002-02-09 09:50, mother goose wrote:
I grew up having to learn 3 languages. Only one was used for instruction in school. The other two were taught in school and all 3 were spoken outside of school.<font size=2>Swiss? (just a guess)

[Homer]

Mmmmm ... swiss cheese.

[mother goose]

On 2002-02-14 18:08, The Mister wrote:
On 2002-02-09 09:50, mother goose wrote:
I grew up having to learn 3 languages. Only one was used for instruction in school. The other two were taught in school and all 3 were spoken outside of school.<font size=2>Swiss? (just a guess)


Non, désolé.