When are Chicago December 2004 results due?

[Course 4 Escapee]

I'd rather retake Course 8 than have to retake that Course 7 project again.

Wait! I am retaking Course 8. :dunce:

[bigfatbaby]

Last Friday was the 6-week mark.

I tried searching back through posts to see about how many weeks it typically took and couldn't find anywhere where people had posted results. December 2003 seminar results were out before the end of January so maybe we will get ours back this week.

Any other old course 7 people looking at this remember how many weeks it took to get their results?

[BabyFace]

I think they said somewhere around the 3rd week of February(???)

[exams-suck]

Do we really have to wait another couple weeks before we get our results back?

[rokee]

The results are out.

[Course 4 Escapee]

I passed. One more freaking exam to go.

[phdmom]

Whew. Now only PD...the end is in sight!

[kookie cookie]

I am so FREAKING irritated! I thought I wrote a good paper and I failed. This SUCKKKS!!! Now I have to go through even more crap that I thought I would have to to get my FSA. My Adobe is not working so I can't check out the transition rules on the SoA site. I may lose my 40 credits of PD if I can't get my crap together... I'm mostly irritated with myself for failing Course 7 and having to jack around with this junk even longer... Arghhh!!!

[exams-suck]

i took the seminar more than once so i know how you feel...but i finally passed. don't get discouraged. just keep trying...before your pre-test expires....

[BabyFace]

Kookie,

I feel exactly the same way. I am clueless as to why I failed. I have spent the weekend in introspection in the hopes I could figure out what went wrong, but for the life of me I can't!

But, such is the life in the actuarial profession. Only would the SOA come up with a course where actuaries (and actuarial professors, to boot!) teach soon-to-be actuaries how to communicate! (The communication professionals got a good chuckle when I told them that.) Maybe it will catch on - one-day plumbers will teach art class and philosophers will be under the hood of my car!

So, Course 7 again for me. I can't wait.

[kookie cookie]

This was my second time and my pretest is now expired. I don't see the point in trying to do this stupid seminar again since there isn't good feedback about what I did wrong - how will I know what to do differently so I can actually pass the dumb thing???

I need to find out what happens to me in transition if I have everything except Course 7. At this point, I have no interest in trying to do C7 again - I would rather write an exam.

Thanks for letting me vent!!

[Katie.]

You can do your PD since you have transition credits. All you would have left are some modules I think?

[Ricemobile]

I passed on my second try too. It seems so arbitrary. The ten hours of report writing is hell. After I was done I had no real idea whether or not I passed. I swore I would NEVER retake it. I feel lucky.

The feedback that I received from my failed first attempt was lame. Essentially it felt like I was penalized for my general lack of expertise on the "practice area" chosen for the extended case study. I answered every question and included everything I was asked to include. My first paper and my second paper were not that much different (though I can only compare via memory). Overall (after speaking to Course 7 takers from 2000-2003) I believe they are treating the grading/passing differently (though they will never admit it).

Draw your own conclusions: they're not retaining Course 7 in the new design. I'm bitter even though I passed.

[kookie cookie]

Some may be bitter that they are not retaining C7 because they went through it. I'm GLAD that they're not retaining it because the system is going to change to something different that I presumably have a decent chance of passing or at least understanding why I didn't!!
Things are going very well for me at work, so I'm not too terribly concerned if it's a couple more years until I get my FSA. At least that's how I feel today, one day after I found out that I failed that stupid thing again.

[Datatarium]

I passed 3 sitting in a row and I get stumped on course 7. I thought the pass rate is like over 70%. How could I have failed? Especially after walking out with a sense of accomplishment.

Today, I received the dumb breakdown. I took pleasure in seeing that I needed improvement in all 4 categories.

This exam is gonna set me back at least half a year to my fellowship and for what?

[blue sky]

How many of the 4 areas are needed to pass? I got 2 out of 4, I think I missed the communication one because my paper accidentally printed out in landscape and there was no time to reprint and the formatting was kind of bad due to inexperience in word. I also missed the analysis of results - I thought I got the most important concepts but did run out of time and probably didn't show as much as I should have.

[kookie cookie]

blue sky,
There are 3 levels of score - satisfactory, needs minor improvement, needs major improvement. ARe you saying that you got satisfactory on 2, or that you got needs minor improvement on 2?

[dinosaur]

This was my second time and my pretest is now expired. I don't see the point in trying to do this stupid seminar again since there isn't good feedback about what I did wrong - how will I know what to do differently so I can actually pass the dumb thing???

You can request a memo which is a breakdown by section of how you did or more importantly what you didn't do or was lacking in your paper. It takes a few weeks for them to write it up but it's worth getting.

For example, I failed to mention model limitations and maintenance in the exec summary even though I made some comments about it later in the paper.

If you failed it twice, you can take it through a video tape at a reduced price, but who wants to fail twice?

Anyway, I'm headed to Atlanta next week for Round 2.