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stokes49ers
02-08-2005, 11:42 PM
Since Halle Berry will not be Storm in the next X-men, who are the top African-American female prospects to succeed her?
The Waiting Hurts
02-08-2005, 11:47 PM
I always thought that Iman should have been the first choice to play Storm. She's the perfect fit. Although, I don't know if she can act. At the very least she wouldn't have had to fake an accent and do it badly.

But I think that's the reason Halle was casted. There aren't any other top Black female leads out there.
E. Blackadder
02-09-2005, 04:56 AM
Since Halle Berry will not be Storm in the next X-men, who are the top African-American female prospects to succeed her?
Do you require an actual African-American for the role, or are you using that term as a synonym for "black?"

In any case, Iman (http://www.i-iman.com/homemain_new.html)
http://myfashionlife.com/uploads/iman.jpg
is always in fashion.

And, TWH, Iman had acceptable minor roles in ST VI: The Undiscovered Country (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102975/fullcredits), and No Way Out (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093640/). Those are the only movies with Iman that I've watched and remember.
Bicycle Repair Man
02-09-2005, 07:56 AM
Since Halle Berry will not be Storm in the next X-men, who are the top African-American female prospects to succeed her?
I'd rather not see Storm at all. X2 was perilously close to having too many characters in it, with not enough time to give all of them enough to do. Give Wolverine a spin-off movie, like Electra, so that he can have a smaller part in X3, giving more time to Colossus, Rogue, Pyro, Iceman, Dark Phoenix (obviously) and the newly introduced Gambit and Beast.
Il duce
02-09-2005, 08:08 AM
There are only a couple of "recognizable name" black actresses I can think of. I'm hoping they go find somebody that we've never heard of rather than giving the role to Jada Pinkett Smith or the like.
llcooljabe
02-09-2005, 08:10 AM
I'd rather not see Storm at all. X2 was perilously close to having too many characters in it, with not enough time to give all of them enough to do. Give Wolverine a spin-off movie, like Electra, so that he can have a smaller part in X3, giving more time to Colossus, Rogue, Pyro, Iceman, Dark Phoenix (obviously) and the newly introduced Gambit and Beast.Who are Gambit & Beast? (the Actors, I mean)

What about Jada Pinket smith? Too short?
Sanaa Lathan? http://imdb.com/name/nm0005125/
Pseudolus
02-09-2005, 08:20 AM
Diana Ross
Mr. Penguin
02-09-2005, 09:14 AM
I don't see Storm as essential to an X-Men movie. Agreed on spinning off Wolverine and giving more time to the other characters. So far, I think the only actors who are definites for X-Men 3 are:

Daniel Cudmore .... Colossus
Alan Cumming .... Kurt Wagner/Nightcrawler
Hugh Jackman .... Logan/Wolverine
Patrick Stewart .... Charles Xavier/Prof. X
The Waiting Hurts
02-09-2005, 09:25 AM
And, TWH, Iman had acceptable minor roles in ST VI: The Undiscovered Country (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102975/fullcredits), and No Way Out (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093640/). Those are the only movies with Iman that I've watched and remember.Ahhh, a Kevin Costner movie and ST. No wonder why I haven't seen her act. But if she's good, I think she should be Storm if they are going to include that character back into the film.

I think there is a Wolverine spinoff in the works.
Titania
02-09-2005, 09:30 AM
OK, first off, the new Storm should be Angela Bassett.

Secondly, it would really be great if those in charge of the X-men movies actually gave the character some personality and dialogue. Storm is terribly underutlized in these movies. She was a major character in the book (in the 80s, anyway, when I read it)...she was the leader of the X-men, the most powerful (she controls the freakin' WEATHER), she had all this awesome spirituality about her, and then there was that whole thing with the Morlocks when she beat Callisto and became Chief of the Morlocks, started her punk look, and started to identify more with the freak underground than the freaks above ground. She was always tortured and fascinating, and Halle Berry's portrayal is basically the token Black chick with weather powers - wooden and forgettable (although I don't really blame Berry for this, it was beyond her control).

:rant:

Perhaps you can tell that I've felt passionately about this for some time.
carrot
02-09-2005, 09:48 AM
Hasn't Oprah Winfrey done some acting?
Bicycle Repair Man
02-09-2005, 09:48 AM
Who are Gambit & Beast? (the Actors, I mean)
They haven't been officially announced as being in X3, they're just on my wish list.
Titania
02-09-2005, 09:52 AM
I always thought that Iman should have been the first choice to play Storm. She's the perfect fit. Although, I don't know if she can act. At the very least she wouldn't have had to fake an accent and do it badly.

Iman would work, if they can't get Angela Bassett. I only have one problem with Iman, specifically that she's married to David Bowie and I'm not.
AfroSoul
02-09-2005, 10:24 AM
I felt Nona Gaye (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0310850/) did pretty well in the Matrix movies and would be more suited to action than say Angela Basset.
The Waiting Hurts
02-09-2005, 10:34 AM
I felt Nona Gaye (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0310850/) did pretty well in the Matrix movies and would be more suited to action than say Angela Basset.She's a good choice too. I don't think they have to look for a big name star anymore. Halle was probably chosen for the first b/c of her star power. Hugh Jackman wasn't known at the time of the first one. (He's cute btw - thought you should know) The only other known actors were Patrick Stewart & Ian McKellen, but I doubt the younger audience had a clue of McKellen was before LOTR; which came after X-men. Same with Stewart.
The Waiting Hurts
02-09-2005, 10:36 AM
Iman would work, if they can't get Angela Bassett. I only have one problem with Iman, specifically that she's married to David Bowie and I'm not.Yeah, that's how I felt about Jennifer Aniston and Nicole Ari Parker (married to Boris Kodjoe)
Last Train to Skaville
02-09-2005, 10:40 AM
Yeah, that's how I felt about Jennifer Aniston and Nicole Ari Parker (married to Boris Kodjoe)

[skimming thread]No, I'm sorry. I just don't see Jennifer Anniston as a believable Storm.[/skimming thread]
The Waiting Hurts
02-09-2005, 10:43 AM
[skimming thread]No, I'm sorry. I just don't see Jennifer Anniston as a believable Storm.[/skimming thread]See, this is why we need nested quotes back.
Titania
02-09-2005, 10:49 AM
I felt Nona Gaye (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0310850/) did pretty well in the Matrix movies and would be more suited to action than say Angela Basset.You're insane.

Didn't you ever see Strange Days? Bassett is a single-mother/martial arts expert/body-guard/armored limo driver. She's totally cut, and she totally kicks ass. The hero of the story is this little wimpy fast-talking guy who she constantly has to rescue. Great movie, definitely worth a rent.

Not to mention her kick-ass portrayal of Tina Turner.

Angela Basset is ALL ACTION.
AfroSoul
02-09-2005, 11:03 AM
You're insane.

Didn't you ever see Strange Days? Bassett is a single-mother/martial arts expert/body-guard/armored limo driver. She's totally cut, and she totally kicks ass. The hero of the story is this little wimpy fast-talking guy who she constantly has to rescue. Great movie, definitely worth a rent.

Not to mention her kick-ass portrayal of Tina Turner.

Angela Basset is ALL ACTION.

Being a huge Angela Basset fan (she totally deserved the oscar for What's Love got to do with it) I hate to be the one to mention that she is 47 yrs old. I don't know how many casting directors in Hollywood are going to overlook that when casting roles for a comic based action flick.
The Waiting Hurts
02-09-2005, 11:10 AM
Being a huge Angela Basset fan (she totally deserved the oscar for What's Love got to do with it) I hate to be the one to mention that she is 47 yrs old. I don't know how many casting directors in Hollywood are going to overlook that when casting roles for a comic based action flick.I hadn't realized that Angela Basset is 47. I'm sure Iman is the same if not older. By Hollywood's standards they're both too old for that role, which sucks because Sean Connery is 100 and made a crappy action movie recently.
O. Hannah
02-09-2005, 11:34 AM
They haven't been officially announced as being in X3, they're just on my wish list.

"Beast" or rather Hank McCoy was in X2 breifly...was gambit? Musta missed that one.

I'm looking forward to seeing Juggernaut....they could also show Rogue gaining Ms. Marvel's powers as a subplot of X2...which is more in-line with the plot than showing Storm with the Morlocks.

They could really throw a curve and combine the Dark-pheonix saga with the Apocalypse stuff...using him as the bad guy instead of the Inner Circle weenies.
The Waiting Hurts
02-09-2005, 11:37 AM
"Beast" or rather Hank McCoy was in X2 breifly.He was? Where? When? I have to go re-watch the movie.
whisper
02-09-2005, 11:43 AM
He was? Where? When? I have to go re-watch the movie.
He was mentioned in a news report that is going on in the backgroung, IIRC. You need to be a total x-men geek to catch the name.
Titania
02-09-2005, 11:46 AM
OK, re: Angela Basset, fine. But she was 37 when she made Strange Days. And she still looks great!

Iman will be 50 this July. :o
Levin
03-20-2006, 02:59 PM
Update: (sorry if there's another thread ...)

Cast and crew for X-Men: The Last Stand (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0376994/fullcredits)

Confirmed answers to questions asked in this thread:

Storm: definitely Halle Berry (apparently a beefier role ... you're welcome, Titania)
Beast/Dr. Frasier Crane: Himself
Gambit: The invisible man
Juggernaut: Vinnie Jones
Angel: Ben Foster

and my prediction ...

Scott (the stiff) Summers bites it
llcooljabe
03-20-2006, 03:29 PM
I don't see gambit in the credits at all. Or am I blind?
lipman
03-20-2006, 03:33 PM
Update: (sorry if there's another thread ...)

Cast and crew for X-Men: The Last Stand (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0376994/fullcredits)

Confirmed answers to questions asked in this thread:

Storm: definitely Halle Berry (apparently a beefier role ... you're welcome, Titania)
Beast/Dr. Frasier Crane: Himself
Gambit: The invisible man
Juggernaut: Vinnie Jones
Angel: Ben Foster


Missed this thread the first time around, but I would have suggested Gabriel Union (she is smokin hot)

I really like the Vinnie Jones pick, and Ben Foster was outstanding in Hostage. I know nothing about Angel and what sort of character he is, but I sure hope he is evil.
lipman
03-20-2006, 03:33 PM
I don't see gambit in the credits at all. Or am I blind?


Hence "the invisible man" joke :D
llcooljabe
03-20-2006, 03:37 PM
Duh...

I should take a few lessons in reading.
mlschop
03-20-2006, 03:39 PM
Beast/Dr. Frasier Crane: Himself

I think this was meant to be funny (although it wasn't to me)

The Beast's real name in character is Dr. Hank McCoy - played by Kelsey Grammer. Kelsey Grammer is going to be in costume from what I gather - so the "himself" comment doesn't really apply...since that's usually only used for completely CG characters - which the beast will not be
mlschop
03-20-2006, 03:40 PM
Ben Foster was outstanding in Hostage. I know nothing about Angel and what sort of character he is, but I sure hope he is evil.

there was nothing outstanding about Hostage...though I think ben foster does fit the role perfectly (he was good in Six Feet Under)

Angel is good in the comics/cartoons - so i assume he will be in the movie. Sorry
Titania
03-20-2006, 03:41 PM
Storm: definitely Halle Berry (apparently a beefier role ... you're welcome, Titania)
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :clap:

Plus - Dania Ramirez .... Callisto

MORLOCKS!!!! YAY!
Mayor Quimby
03-20-2006, 03:48 PM
I don't see gambit in the credits at all. Or am I blind?
Josh Holloway was offered the role of Gambit, but turned it down because the character was too similar to his character on "Lost" (2004). Eventually, the character was dropped from the film. (more)
No Gambit. Sawyer woulda been cool for that part.
Levin
03-20-2006, 04:00 PM
Duh...

I should take a few lessons in reading.
Nah. You just need a little more experience with my sense of humor. I should probably tell you all that I have the mutant X-gene. My "real name" is Dryman. I have the uncanny ability to tell jokes without anyone noticing.
Levin
03-20-2006, 04:03 PM
More than a little disappointed with the prospective special effects. Watch the part in the trailer where Juggernaut is chasing that walk-through-walls-chick. The last wall he busts through, you can still see the seams in the wall where he has already made a huge hole. Shabby.
ShakeNBakes
03-20-2006, 05:40 PM
More than a little disappointed with the prospective special effects. Watch the part in the trailer where Juggernaut is chasing that walk-through-walls-chick. The last wall he busts through, you can still see the seams in the wall where he has already made a huge hole. Shabby.maybe that scene is still being retouched and isn't yet 100%, or it might be on the cutting room floor. I've seen both cases in previews before (don't ask me for examples, I'm not THAT much of a geek).
Frenchie
03-20-2006, 07:37 PM
More than a little disappointed with the prospective special effects. Watch the part in the trailer where Juggernaut is chasing that walk-through-walls-chick. The last wall he busts through, you can still see the seams in the wall where he has already made a huge hole. Shabby.

You're looking way too close man!
Redhead
03-21-2006, 08:58 AM
Caught X-Men 2 flipping channels last night...can anyone tell me what else Alan Cumming has been in? It's driving me crazy that I know him but not from where...
Frenchie
03-21-2006, 09:05 AM
Caught X-Men 2 flipping channels last night...can anyone tell me what else Alan Cumming has been in? It's driving me crazy that I know him but not from where...


Tons of Stuff (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001086/) Not sure which one you remember him from. I always remember him as the creepy suitor in Circle of Friends.

Coming Out (2006) (pre-production)
The Ant Bully (2006) (filming) (voice) .... Fugax
Full Grown Men (2006) (post-production) .... The Hitchhiker
Cat Tale (2006) (post-production) (voice) .... Newton
Suffering Man's Charity (2006) (post-production) .... John Vandermark


"The L Word"
- Lonestar (2006) TV Episode .... Billie Blaikie
- Lifesize (2006) TV Episode .... Billie Blaikie
- Lifeline (2006) TV Episode .... Billie Blaikie
- Light My Fire (2006) TV Episode .... Billie Blaikie
- Lobsters (2006) TV Episode .... Billie Blaikie
(1 more)
Sweet Land (2005) .... Frandsen
Bam Bam and Celeste (2005) .... Eugene
Pride & Prejudice (2005) (uncredited) .... Messenger
Neverwas (2005)
Bad Blood (2005/II) .... Davie
Son of the Mask (2005) .... Loki
Reefer Madness: The Movie Musical (2005) (TV) .... Lecturer/Goat-Man/FDR
Gray Matters (2005)
Ripley Under Ground (2005) .... Jeff Constant
Eighteen (2004/I) .... Father Chris
"Shoebox Zoo" (2004) TV Series (voice) .... Bruno the Bear
Garfield (2004) (voice) .... Persnikitty
... aka Garfield: The Movie (USA: promotional title)
The Goodbye Girl (2004) (TV) .... Mark
... aka Neil Simon's The Goodbye Girl (USA: complete title)
Pits (2003) .... Mr. Williams
Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over (2003) .... Fegan Floop
... aka Spy Kids 3: Game Over (USA: video title)
X2 (2003) .... Kurt Wagner/Nightcrawler
... aka X-Men 2 (Singapore: English title) (USA: working title)
... aka X-2 (USA: poster title)
... aka X-Men 2: X-Men United (USA: promotional title)
... aka X2: X-Men United (USA: promotional title)
"Frasier"
- Kenny on the Couch (2003) TV Episode .... Ahmrit
Nicholas Nickleby (2002) .... Mr. Folair
Spy Kids 2: Island of Lost Dreams (2002) .... Fegan Floop
... aka Spy Kids 2: The Island of Lost Dreams (USA: video box title)
CinéMagique (2002) .... Magician
Zero Effect (2002) (TV) .... Daryl Zero
"Sex and the City"
- The Real Me (2001) TV Episode .... O
The Anniversary Party (2001) .... Joe Therrian
Josie and the Pussycats (2001) .... Wyatt Frame
Spy Kids (2001) .... Fegan Floop
Investigating Sex (2001) .... Sevy
Get Carter (2000) .... Jeremy Kinnear
Company Man (2000) .... Gen. Batista
... aka Company Man (France)
"3rd Rock from the Sun"
... aka 3rd Rock (USA: promotional abbreviation)
... aka Life As We Know It
- Dick and Harry Fall in a Hole (2000) TV Episode .... Angus 'The Hole' McDuff
The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas (2000) .... Gazoo/Mick Jagged
"God, the Devil and Bob" (2000) TV Series (voice) .... The Devil
"Saturday Night Live"
... aka NBC's Saturday Night (USA: original title)
... aka SNL
... aka SNL 25 (USA: new title)
... aka Saturday Night Live '80 (USA: new title)
- Episode #25.11 (2000) TV Episode .... Host
Urbania (2000) .... Brett


Titus (1999) .... Saturninus
Annie (1999) (TV) .... Daniel Francis "Rooster" Hannigan
Eyes Wide Shut (1999) .... Hotel Desk Clerk
... aka EWS (USA: promotional abbreviation)
Plunkett & Macleane (1999) .... Lord Rochester
Spice World (1997) .... Piers Cuthbertson-Smyth
For My Baby (1997) .... Daniel Orgelbrand
... aka Goodnight Vienna (USA: MIFED title)
Buddy (1997) .... Dick Croner, Trudy's Assistant
Romy and Michele's High School Reunion (1997) .... Sandy Frink
Bathtime (1997) .... Wrigley
Emma (1996) .... Rev. Elton
Burn Your Phone (1996) .... Andy
GoldenEye (1995) .... Boris Grishenko
Circle of Friends (1995) .... Sean Walsh
Second Best (1994) .... Bernard
Black Beauty (1994) (voice) .... Black Beauty
"The High Life" (1994) TV Series .... Sebastian Flight
That Sunday (1994) (TV) .... Stanley
Butter (1994) (TV) .... Ronnie
Micky Love (1993) (TV) .... Greg Deane
... aka Rik Mayall Presents Micky Love (UK: series title)
"Mr. Bean"
- Blind Date (1993) TV Episode (uncredited) .... Bachelor #2
Cabaret (1993) (TV) .... Emcee
The Airzone Solution (1993) (V) .... MacNamara
Prague (1992) .... Alexander Novak
Bernard and the Genie (1991) (TV) .... Bernard Bottle
The Last Romantics (1991) (TV) .... Tulloch


Conquest of the South Pole (1989) (TV)
"Shadow of the Stone" (1987) TV Series .... Tom Henderson
"Taggart"
- Death Call (1986) TV Episode .... Jamie McCormack
The Accidental Death of an Anarchist (1983) (TV)
"Take the High Road" (1980) TV Series .... Jim Hunter, wood-cutter
... aka High Road (UK: new title)
Mr. Penguin
03-21-2006, 09:06 AM
Has his own cologne called "Cumming."

:exams::crazy:
Levin
03-21-2006, 09:48 AM
You're looking way too close man!
Probably. But I watched the scene at full speed, and I could tell that there was just something fake about it. When someone plows through a wall, it ought to look pretty substantial, like there was some force behind it. It wasn't until I slowed it down that it became clear why the physics didn't seem to be there. I hope ShakeNBakes is right that they are going to touch it up.
Levin
03-21-2006, 09:51 AM
Has his own cologne called Cumming:exams::crazy:
He was on the Daily Show a while ago joking about that and numerous other products he would be "sponsoring." The joke got kind of old, but that didn't keep them from running it into the ground.
Levin
03-21-2006, 09:57 AM
Tons of Stuff (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001086/) Not sure which one you remember him from. I always remember him as the creepy suitor in Circle of Friends.
GoldenEye (1995) .... Boris Grishenko
This was the guy with the pen, right?

Romy and Michele's High School Reunion (1997) .... Sandy Frink
This was the guy with the helicopter, right?

Black Beauty (1994) (voice) .... Black Beauty
This was the guy with the mane, right?
Happy Extinction
05-25-2006, 12:05 PM
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/709/709574p1.html
Mayor Adam West
05-25-2006, 12:20 PM
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/709/709574p1.html
Good to know. I plan to see it sometime over the weekend, maybe Monday.
Frenchie
05-25-2006, 12:20 PM
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/709/709574p1.html

As if I weren't excited enough!!! I hope the office decides to close extra early tomorrow. Then, I can make the 11-something show. Otherwise, I'll be at the 1:15 show!! Man, I'm a dork!
ShakeNBakes
05-25-2006, 12:31 PM
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/709/709574p1.htmlgood thing you told me. My buddy who I go to a lot of movies with is usually out the door and in his car before the lights come up in the theatre. I guarantee that I would have totally missed it
The Waiting Hurts
05-25-2006, 04:32 PM
Are there early showings tonight? Man...I'm hyped about X-Men who'd a thunk!
cubedbee
05-25-2006, 05:09 PM
Are there early showings tonight? Man...I'm hyped about X-Men who'd a thunk!Early as in midnight? Or early as in a reasonable time this evening? Yes to the former, no to the latter.
Levin
05-25-2006, 05:40 PM
I have the uncanny ability to tell jokes without anyone noticing.
Please add this to your list of self-referential statements.
Frenchie
05-25-2006, 06:07 PM
Please add this to your list of self-referential statements.

:oyh:

Or over mine, at least...
ShakeNBakes
05-26-2006, 09:56 PM
I just finished watching X2, and now I'm off to the theatre for X3...

SOOOOOOOOO PUMPED!!!! :wav:
Levin
06-29-2006, 04:49 PM
:oyh:

Or over mine, at least...
The Uncanny X-Men?
The Mad Hatter
10-29-2006, 06:34 PM
Just saw the X-3 DVD. Inever saw the movie in the theatre. This might seem like a dumb question, but why did they kill off so many characters?
The Waiting Hurts
10-29-2006, 09:29 PM
Just saw the X-3 DVD. Inever saw the movie in the theatre. This might seem like a dumb question, but why did they kill off so many characters?Focus on spinoff movies, mainly Wolverine and Magneto, I guess. I read on one of those fan sites (:geek: ) that the cast as they were would be too expensive to bring back for X4.
Gentle Giant
10-30-2006, 09:39 AM
I was under the impression that X3 was supposed to be the last X-Men movie. Did that turn out to be just a rumor?

I also watched it for the first time on DVD recently, and didn't know about the post-credits secret scene. What's the scene? Or is there somewhere that I can see it online? (I'll do my own search... Websense will block most of them.)
The Waiting Hurts
10-30-2006, 10:35 AM
I was under the impression that X3 was supposed to be the last X-Men movie. Did that turn out to be just a rumor?

I also watched it for the first time on DVD recently, and didn't know about the post-credits secret scene. What's the scene? Or is there somewhere that I can see it online? (I'll do my own search... Websense will block most of them.)The post-credit scene shows that Prof. X transfered himself to a the body of a man in a coma just before Jene killed him. Which suggest that there may be another movie. Prof. X has died in the comics many times before but why bring him back in the movie, especially after the way he died? I don't think it's worth bringing him back if they're not going to bring back Jean or Scott. They killed off so many characters that I don't know what his purpose would be unless it's to teach the next gen X-men....but they have a weak Storm casted so that would be horrible...not to mention no Gambit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYh7dDmQ89I