Abortion question

[Anonymous]

Here's a question for you.

Does anyone know of a person who would have been aborted if not for a terrorist attack against a clinic?

Like say the mother had planned an abortion, but didn't get to go because of anti-abortion terrorism. Because they missed their appointment, they wound up having the baby.

So the pro life terrorists actually saved this persons life.

There's got to be people like this out there.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Voice of Reason on 2001-10-23 16:58 ]</font>

[The Mister]

<font size=2>I doubt it; they'd just go to the clinic a few blocks away. For abortion-doctor-terrorism to have any real effect, they'd have to get rid of most of the doctors in a given area. And even then, most girls/women - those who had already made up their minds, anyway - would probably be just as determined and cross state lines, if necessary, to get it done.

[The Mad Hatter]

If this logic were to follow, then one could argue that even more lives were "saved" because most likely some of the WTC employees killed would at some point in the future have had abortions.

[Anonymous]

No, in your example there wouldn't be a tangible person whose life was saved from the terrorism. Unless an abortion doctor died in the WTC attack, which is kind of a stretch.

[Indep]

I hope your playing devil's advocate. the group on these boards are a pretty religious bunch, but I doubt you'll find much support for bombing or terrorism of clinics.

[Anonymous]

Let's not start thread drift.

I just asked if anyone is alive today because an abortion was prevented by a pro-life attack.

It's a compelling question you have to admit.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Voice of Reason on 2001-10-25 11:28 ]</font>

[Me]

Another interesting (but in this case obviously unanswerable) question:

Is anybody alive today because of an abortion?

That is, were any potential mass murders, drunk drivers, or whatever aborted so that their innocent victims are alive today as a result?

[Abducens]

>>Is anybody alive today because of an abortion?

Sigh... at the risk of subjecting myself to hilarious replies:

Docs told my mom that I was some-which-way in the womb and that there was a good chance I'd be retarded. He suggested abortion, but mom said no.

I am utterly indifferent on the abortion issue though. I hope people make the right "choice."

[Drum roll please for the fantastic punch lines!]

[Anonymous]

The difference between our points is that mine is real and tangible and yours is an abstract fantasy.

A mother who was going in for an abortion, but didn't have it due to a pro-life attack knows that pro-lifers are the reason her real, tangible, breathing, speaking, learning child is here today.

Someone who isn't mugged doesn't know if they would have been mugged had an abortion not occurred. You can't prove that.

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[Floyd Nootson]

VOR
How about we look at your question from a slightly different angle. Is anyone here today becasue their mom wanted to get an abortion, but instead received counseling and adoption assistance from a pro-life organization?

I'm not sure why you focus only on the "pro-life terrorists" when asking your question. That's like asking has anyone converted to Islam based on the 9/11 attacks?

I don't find that to be a compelling question at all.

[Actuary321]

I would agree with Floyd. More likely if there was a terrorist incident at an abortion clinic those who might be swayed by pro-life counseling might change their mind, but those who are likely won't be swayed by that counseling will most likely just find another place to have the abortion.

[Anonymous]

Some would say pro life counselors are psychological terrorists.

So you know, I'm not a pro-lifer. I don't care about that issue or any issue for that matter.

My contribution is to ask the hard questions so those who do care can have intelligent debates.

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[Indep]

It's much more a disturbing, than interesting, question. Honestly, it sounds like your weighing your options. If you are, God (that is any God or Gods) won't like you any more if you kill an abortion doctor. Trust me!

[Me]

On 2001-10-25 12:40, Voice of Reason wrote:
The difference between our points is that mine is real and tangible and yours is an abstract fantasy.


Abstract? Yes. Fantasy? I would say "hypothetical," but whatever. And since no one seems to know of anyone that meets your question's criteria, my question looks to be as conversation provoking as yours.

[The Mister]

On 2001-10-25 13:36, Voice of Reason wrote:
Some would say pro life counselors are psychological terrorists.<font size=2>And those people are stupid for saying so (and should be ashamed for using such a strong word to describe such people).