Is Bush partially to blame? (controversial)

[Anonymous]

This is a terrorist attack, but it's also mismanagement by the President. Things are bad both internationally and with the domestic economy. If you take a lazy, hands off policy these kinds of things are bound to happen. Clinton proactively managed the Middle East situation so well that the terrorists were marginalized. Bush has mismanaged it so bad that the terrorists are more influential than ever. Bush has to take a little blame for this.

[Anonymous]

Get real.

[openminded]

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[Anonymous]

to:dednimnepo

to suggest even jokingly that you could for one instant blame Canada for this horrendous attack just turns my stomach. I was just as discusted as any American was today when I got word of this horrible act. So stop your list at "J" if you would.

[IHope2Pass]

Traci,
There are too many anonymous posters here.

[Extreme Extremist]

I will first state that I am no Bush fan (nor am I a democrat).

Your theory is stupid and unsupported. How the hell can a person "manage" the middle east?

The reasons that this happened are:

1) We stick our beaks into other peoples' business deciding winners and losers. Losers often get angry, especially when the "referee" is on, or seems to support, the other side. Does anyone here doubt that an Iraqi child whose parents or siblings died as a result of the war or on-going embargo (I assume that it is on-going) is not going to harbor ill-will towards America. What if you were Serbian? Palestininan?

2) There are bad and/or vengeful and/or violent and/or disturbed people who like to use the interventionism of the US as an excuse to attack a target. They revel in the destruction.

My sense is that people motivated by both of the reasons stated above committed this atrocity.

[openminded]

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[Anonymous]

Don't worry dednimpo, one of the main purposes of humor is to help us deal with misery.

You manage things by being proactive. Keeping in touch with what's going on, and showing you care about both sides. Bush basically told both sides that he doesn't care enough about them, or their lives to be proactive about peace. Why didn't Bush call both sides to the US for peace a month ago when suicide bombs and missile attacks were a regular event?!

[The Mister]

On 2001-09-11 14:29, dednimnepo wrote:
...I'll edit the post.


<font size=2>It sure is nice to be able to do that now, isn't it? :smile:

[The Mister]

On 2001-09-11 14:34, Anonymous wrote:
Why didn't Bush call both sides to the US for peace a month ago when suicide bombs and missile attacks were a regular event?!


<font size=2>Didn't he?

Or, who was it that said there would be no peace talks until the violence is under control?

[Anonymous]

Having lost the support of the US, both sides resorted to their only remaining way to survive, siding with their hard line and backing it up with violence. Suicide bombs, missile attacks and now this.

The US needs to marginalize terrorists. You need to get the will of their supporters on your side. Like Clinton did. Terrorists were at record low levels of popularity just 3 years ago. So were the Isreali hawks.

[Anonymous]

to:d

I accept your appology, and I hope that this can bring the civilized world together in a common goal to combat these barbaric cowards.

Regards,
M

[Anonymous]

NO BLAME GAME Please!! Let's unite and fight against the eveil and enemies first.

[Anonymous]

I would tell you a story, not insisting on its authenticity, just trying to see another possibility...I'm sure i'll get flamed by posting it...anyway here i go:

U.S Government itself is involved in all this, here is the logic, Ahmed Shah Masood has recently died (90% sure news)in an attack in Afghanistan. Now Afghanistan might soon become a FULLY Taliban state shortly, which might not be an ideal condition for U.S.

U.S wants Osama at any cost, there should be any valid reason (for gaining international favour and support)to fight against Taliban and Osama, the reason is provided by the recent incidents in NY and WA(which may involve Govt itself).

Now i won't be surprised if U.S Govt calls for Military Actions against Taliban and Osama and would be looking for international favours in this connection. It may or may not end in using Nuclear Weapons against Afghanistan.

You are free to post as many views and criticisms as you like, i'm out of it and won't reply back, just wanted to let U.S citizens know what people might be thinking in different parts of world.

[Anonymous]

The Taliban is a horribly oppressive regime, and I don't see much wrong with attacking that GOVERNMENT (not innocent people).

[Anonymous]

Same views for U.S Govt, in many different parts of world :smile:

[Dr T Non-Fan]

I'd have loved to have read the slam on Canada.

Was it something like:
"Canada, for looking like angels next to us. I mean, who would you attack, given the choice?"

[Anonymous]

On 2001-09-11 17:36, Dr T Non-Fan wrote:
I'd have loved to have read the slam on Canada.

Was it something like:
"Canada, for looking like angels next to us. I mean, who would you attack, given the choice?"


Canadians are peace loving people who mind their own business. No one would ever have any reason to attack them. They haven't been in one war for 300? years?

[Han Solo]

I thought Canadians particpated in WW2, as part of the Allied forces.

[Effa]

Anon, you're thinking of Switzerland. With the exception of Vietnam, I think Canada has participated in every major war the US has in the last 80 years or so. And lets not forget the war of 1812 when we had to (successfully) fight off the Americans... :smile:

[Anonymous]

I thought it was the British that successfully fought off the Americans. The Canadians certainly couldn't.

[Anonymous]

On 2001-09-11 17:53, Effa wrote:
... Canada has participated in every major war the US has in the last 80 years or so. ,,,


They may have "participated", but if they had no impact, did they really fight?

[Parselmouth]

If Bush is partially responsible for this act of terrorism, then was Clinton equally responsible for the original bombing of the WTC? Also the Murrah Bldg in OK City?

[The Mister]

Well, according to some news services, the car with the arab-language flight manuals may be linked to Canadian sympathizers of Bin Laden. So dednimnepo wasn't too far off with his retracted "blame Canada" remark after all.

All tongue-in-cheek, of course. :razz:

[Anonymous]

To "Anonymous", regarding Canadian participation in wars.

In WWI, Canada was involved three years before the US got involved.

In WWII, Canada sent troops more than two years before the US got involved.

As part of Overlord, Canada was the lead invader near Caen, on one of the five beaches (code named Juno). Britain led the attack on Sword and Gold, the US led on Omaha and Utah.

I've been to see US and Canadian military cemetaries in Normandy. Yes, the Canadians fought.

[Happy Skunk]

I would tell you a story, not insisting on its authenticity, just trying to see another possibility...I'm sure i'll get flamed by posting it...anyway here i go:

U.S Government itself is involved in all this, here is the logic, Ahmed Shah Masood has recently died (90% sure news)in an attack in Afghanistan. Now Afghanistan might soon become a FULLY Taliban state shortly, which might not be an ideal condition for U.S.

U.S wants Osama at any cost, there should be any valid reason (for gaining international favour and support)to fight against Taliban and Osama, the reason is provided by the recent incidents in NY and WA(which may involve Govt itself).

Now i won't be surprised if U.S Govt calls for Military Actions against Taliban and Osama and would be looking for international favours in this connection. It may or may not end in using Nuclear Weapons against Afghanistan.

You are free to post as many views and criticisms as you like, i'm out of it and won't reply back, just wanted to let U.S citizens know what people might be thinking in different parts of world.

:bump:

[SamTheEagle]

So it only took like 5 hours for this nonsense to start?

[Len Myers]

Oh, I thought this might be about the economy. ;-) Carry on.

[The Cuddling Wingman]

So it only took like 5 hours for this nonsense to start?

Back when there was very little moderation and anonymous posters, sure

Not like today... wait

[Listeria]

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[SirVLCIV]

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