Arch 3 study guide

[WillPower]

Can one make it with arch 3 alone if they have previous knowledge of the topics? I have taken classes for all the course 3 subjects.

[Mr. BoH]

Yes. I used only Arch-3, and had no prior knowledge of any of the material. And I'm reasonably sure that I passed. [Knock on wood].

[Brutè]

How many hours did you study? When did you start? Was it your first time taking it?

[icechan]

I have Actex and just ordered Arch-3, and have no previous knowledge on the subject. How many hours per week should I spend if starting right now?

[Mr. BoH]

How many hours did you study? When did you start? Was it your first time taking it?

Probably less than I should have. I don't keep a close count, but I would guess I put in about 200 hours, starting about a week after the preveious session's results came out (sometime in June, I think). It was my first time taking it.

[Avi]

I just got my set and I'm starting to study. It seems pretty good in the sense that it should cover most of the material with very little fluff and decent explanation. Of course I'm still in Chapter 3 trying to memorize things like temporary n-year complete expectation of life (now there's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one :D).

[Brutè]

How many hours did you study? When did you start? Was it your first time taking it?

Probably less than I should have. I don't keep a close count, but I would guess I put in about 200 hours, starting about a week after the preveious session's results came out (sometime in June, I think). It was my first time taking it.That is very impressive since you think you passed. Most people say 400 hours or so is necessary. Did you skip any of the syllabus?

[Mr. BoH]

That is very impressive since you think you passed. Most people say 400 hours or so is necessary. Did you skip any of the syllabus?

Didn't skip anything, but I didn't read hardly any of the texts. I also skipped a fair number of the suggested problems from ARCH once I felt like I had a grasp of the concepts.

[Bama Gambler]

I just got my set and I'm starting to study. It seems pretty good in the sense that it should cover most of the material with very little fluff and decent explanation. Of course I'm still in Chapter 3 trying to memorize things like temporary n-year complete expectation of life (now there's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one :D).

This is where going to seminar really helps. You don't need to remember any formula!! Let's look at a quick example. Assume a 2-year complete expectation of life. If the person lives less than 2 years give him the time he lives. If he lives longer than two years give him 2 years.

This is easier to understand if you assume a mortality law such as DML. DML means you are equally likely to die each year. In other words, if you have DML with w=10. Then the prob that you die in the first year = prob that you die in the second year = ... = prob that you die in the 10th year = 1/10. So now for the 2-year complete expectation of life: if you live two years give him two years => 2Px * 2. If he dies before two years give him the time you expect him to live in those two years => 2Qx * 1. So 2-year temporary complete expectation of life = (9/10)^2 * 2 + (1 - (9/10)^2) * 1.

[Avi]

I just got my set and I'm starting to study. It seems pretty good in the sense that it should cover most of the material with very little fluff and decent explanation. Of course I'm still in Chapter 3 trying to memorize things like temporary n-year complete expectation of life (now there's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one :D).

This is where going to seminar really helps. You don't need to remember any formula!! Let's look at a quick example. Assume a 2-year complete expectation of life. If the person lives less than 2 years give him the time he lives. If he lives longer than two years give him 2 years.

This is easier to understand if you assume a mortality law such as DML. DML means you are equally likely to die each year. In other words, if you have DML with w=10. Then the prob that you die in the first year = prob that you die in the second year = ... = prob that you die in the 10th year = 1/10. So now for the 2-year complete expectation of life: if you live two years give him two years => 2Px * 2. If he dies before two years give him the time you expect him to live in those two years => 2Qx * 1. So 2-year temporary complete expectation of life = (9/10)^2 * 2 + (1 - (9/10)^2) * 1.

ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH


Truth be told, I called Dr. Batten about his seminars. Unfortunayely, all of them are > 1 week, and as a Sabbath observer I lose Friday afternoon and all Saturday. Not to mention I have to convince my company to spring not only for the tuition, but airfare and hotel in Georgia as well.
This does not bode well for me :viola:

[Bama Gambler]

I just got my set and I'm starting to study. It seems pretty good in the sense that it should cover most of the material with very little fluff and decent explanation. Of course I'm still in Chapter 3 trying to memorize things like temporary n-year complete expectation of life (now there's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one :D).

This is where going to seminar really helps. You don't need to remember any formula!! Let's look at a quick example. Assume a 2-year complete expectation of life. If the person lives less than 2 years give him the time he lives. If he lives longer than two years give him 2 years.

This is easier to understand if you assume a mortality law such as DML. DML means you are equally likely to die each year. In other words, if you have DML with w=10. Then the prob that you die in the first year = prob that you die in the second year = ... = prob that you die in the 10th year = 1/10. So now for the 2-year complete expectation of life: if you live two years give him two years => 2Px * 2. If he dies before two years give him the time you expect him to live in those two years => 2Qx * 1. So 2-year temporary complete expectation of life = (9/10)^2 * 2 + (1 - (9/10)^2) * 1.

ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH


Truth be told, I called Dr. Batten about his seminars. Unfortunayely, all of them are > 1 week, and as a Sabbath observer I lose Friday afternoon and all Saturday. Not to mention I have to convince my company to spring not only for the tuition, but airfare and hotel in Georgia as well.
This does not bode well for me :viola:

That sucks!! You can pass w/o the seminar but it will be MUCH harder.

[drctypea]

i dotn think itll be much harder. i did not take a seminar and feel that I passed (knocking on wood). I do not feel a seminar is necessary at all. Avi, i wouldnt worry if you dont attend one. In fact, i know another fella on this forum that i speak to regularly and he also thinks he passed with no seminar. passing without a seminar is definitely possible..jmo

[Bama Gambler]

i dotn think itll be much harder. i did not take a seminar and feel that I passed (knocking on wood). I do not feel a seminar is necessary at all. Avi, i wouldnt worry if you dont attend one. In fact, i know another fella on this forum that i speak to regularly and he also thinks he passed with no seminar. passing without a seminar is definitely possible..jmo

I didn't say you can't pass without a seminar! I said it would be harder!! How do you know it won't be MUCH harder, if you didn't go to a seminar? I started studying long before the seminar and I was struggling with the life-cont. After the seminar the stuff was pretty easy. I will agree that the seminar didn't help that much for the non-life material, but for the life material ... anyone who had Bob Batten will agree that it is infact MUCH MUCH easier to pass with the seminar.

[drctypea]

i suppose...my point was just that i think people get too worked up over the seminars and classes and almost give themselves the false impression that if they attend a seminar they are guaranteed to pass. maybe it woudl be "MUCH" easier with the seminar. I dont know. my point to avi was not to lose sleep over the fact he wont be able to attend the seminar. you shoudl start a bob batten fan club. you feel him pretty hard...

[Bama Gambler]

you shoudl start a bob batten fan club.

I thinking about it!

[rafkooch]

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