Harry Potter

[Anonymous]

So is anybody else out there excited about the movie coming out on Friday?

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Someone stole my Book 4. (My brother-in-law.)
How do you pronounce "Hermione"?

Hermiiineee?

Or Hermeeeeyohne?

Or Hermoyneee?

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Oh, and to answer your question: yes I am.

Going next Monday (I'm not an impatient freaky-fan), hoping the crowds won't be there.
The only person who has been quoted as not liking it is Andrew Lloyd Weber. He probably wasn't chosen to do the music, so he's meowing.

[Antimony]

I think it's:

Her-my-o-nee
(with stress on the "my")

[Dr T Non-Fan]

That's what I thought, but no one around my place agreed.
But then, they're mispronouncing everything. Drahco, instead of Draayco.

Did you see who's playing a Gringotts goblin? Mini-me! (Can't remember his name.)

I also saw that John Hurt is in the movie, but he doesn't seem to be anyone major. The wand shop guy?

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Checked with imdb. I was right!

[Dr T Non-Fan]

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0241527

8 out of 10. I'm still going.

[Anonymous]

I believe Antimony is correct.

I am looking forward to seeing the movie, but I can't stand crowds, so I will probably wait a few days as well.

I'm reading the first book again. A little light reading after months of studying for Exam 5. Maybe that's why I like the books. It's a nice change from Group Insurnace.

[Gandalf]

I thought THE movie wasn't coming out for another month or so.

[Ron Weasley]

Of course I'm going to the movie! :grin:

Unfortunately, I'll be traveling over the weekend, but I've marked a special place on my calendar for Tuesday evening.

I don't care for waiting in long lines for tickets, super packed crowds, etc. but I do hope that the theater is mostly full when I see the movie. I think that It'll be fun to witness first hand the responses of the new generation of bookworms. [rim shot]It'll be fun to see the kids too![/rim shot]

I'm also re-reading the Sorcerer's Stone. I haven't memorized these books the way Draco has and sometimes its hard for me to remember what occurred in which book.

[The Mister]

On 2001-11-12 20:05, Dr T Non-Fan wrote:
Did you see who's playing a Gringotts goblin? Mini-me! (Can't remember his name.)<font size=2>You mean Vern Troyer?

[Anonymous]

Paddyboy called me Drahco in real life but I was too excited meeting a world famous actuary to correct him.

The Muggle bought between ten to twenty tickets last Thursday. My crew (no trolls) will see the movie opening night this Friday. :smile: The Muggle bought us all care packages which will include a magnet (I already have dibs on the Slytherin magnet :roll:), stamps and stickers, and Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Beans (jelly beans). You may now rush to the store a pick up the newest action figure, Draco Malfoy!

I think new smilies (http://www.actuary.ca/phpBB/faq.php#smilies) have been added.

[Anonymous]

I found an review of the British version here: http://indigo.ie/~obrienh/hp1.htm

The reviewer (one "Harvey O'Brien PhD.") has some interesting thoughts about the idea of translating a book into a movie. A point from the review that I haven't read anywhere else: "Steve Kloves's screenplay bears her seal of approval, even to the extent that the only original scene was one discarded from the final draft of the novel."

(emphasis added, as was the final s in Kloves's)

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[slam]

I'm excited to see it, but it looks like I'll wait until the day after Thanksgiving to see it. My 6-year-old son and I have a date to go together. I read all four books (for the first time) between April and August of this year. I just finished reading Book 1 to my son and we're a couple of chapters into Book 2. The best thing about the books is that my son will read some of them to me! That's more exciting than any adventure Harry could have!

[Elessar]

I always thought it was Herm-oh-ninny. Isn't that how Krum said it? :smile:

In an interesting turn of events, I will be seeing the movie on Friday, but since I'm travelling out of the US, I'll be seeing it in the UK ("Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone"). I've been psyched about the movie since I read the first book! Somehow I knew they'd make it into a movie--it's too good not to.

It's a great time for movies, isn't it? First HP, then, as Gandalf said, the movie next month!

[Anonymous]

Pronunciation of snotty girl character (supposedly based on Jo Rowling herself, as a girl) is Her-My-Oh-Nee.

I got this from watching an interview with the author herself. She pronounced it that way.

All of us here in the doodad household are looking forward to it, even though there is (according to rumor) no Peeves. John Cleese is in there, though, as Nick.

Any predictions on casting Moaning Myrtle for the next one?

[Flora]

I won't be getting around to seeing it for a couple of weeks, I suspect. I am 1 chapter from the end of the first book, and enjoying it. I assume Draco is pronounced DRAY-co? I was reading her-MEE-own but heard her-MY-oh-nee in a tv interview the other day.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

I thought it was "Her-MY-(uh)-Nee" Heavy on the "MY," little to none on the "uh."

Yes, TM, that's the guy.

Yo, Draaaayco, don't you have a house elf to take care of all that? At least until the second film is released.
(And, as if you'd date/marry a mere Muggle. For shame!)

Is anyone planning to boo or hiss at certain characters? Some of that could give away the whole ending. I have no quarrel with it, though.

[Anonymous]

Yes, DRAY-co and her-MY-oh-nee. Hermione even gives a pronunciation lesson in our fourth year. I’m not dating the Muggle. I don’t plan on booing Harry or Ron, even when they are mischievous.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

"Snotty"? Please provide examples of such behavior.

[Ron Weasley]

I think that it would be fun to pick the tune of my choice and sing along with the school song!

[Anonymous]

Count the lies to adults, cloaks, and maps. I am pretty tame by comparison. Of course, my opinion is based on perspective.

Who snubbed whom, Harry or me? Be fair.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Harry makes a quick judgment of you at the robe-fitters.
Too bad (for you) it was the correct one.

All those actions turned out to be for good, not evil. Of course, in your perspective....

[Anonymous]

I believe selfish desire prompted most of Harry and Ron’s misbehavior. Did I mention that Hermione physically assaulted me? These kids are juvenile delinquents.

[Anonymous]

We can always count on you, Draco, to ferret out the truth. Hmm? Why'd you flinch when I said "ferret"?

[Anonymous]

Sure, NOW you remember that, Pseudolus MOLE! :smile: http://www.gratisgifs.com/images/animals/caspertff.gif

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Yeah, selfish desire to save the wizarding world from the dark forces.
Everything is clear now.

[Gandalf]

Those novices. They only think they they're the entire wizarding world.

[slam]

OK, so what did people think of the movie? In the words of my 6-year-old son, "It was 2 and a half hours, but it felt like only 25 minutes."

[Patience]

I thought it was rather flat, little emotional wow what is going to happen stuff.

It seemed like two hours before I even new what the focal point of the movie was supposed to be. I did not read the book.

My wife & oldest daughter who read it also felt it was missing something. No real excitement.

My son liked it. He read just the first two chapters at that point.

My little girl liked it the best.

Though I hoped for something that was appealing to more than pre-teens.

It was a nice movie. Good acting & story telling. But not in my top 5 PG/fantasy/magic genre movies.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Disappointed.
Exciting filmmaking, sure.
At least two scenes left on the cutting room floor that appeared to be integral: Neville's suddenly decided to stick up for what's right. Why? How did he know they'd been sneaking out? Why did he ever have to stick up for himself? No one seemed to be picking on him. Mind you, I had to step out right after the ONE Quidditch match, see a man about a horse. Did I miss something?
And who gave him the invisibility cloak?
And where's the logic puzzle that only a muggle-born could figure out?

Most reviews I've read have said that it was true to the book. Nonsense.

[Patience]

True to the book means they don't change the story, it doesn't mean they don't leave stuff out.

I am assuming nothing was added that wasn't there in the book.

[slam]

It was about as true to the book as could possibly be expected. Sure the logic puzzle was missing (my 6-year-old pointed this out to me as we left the theater). I also noticed several more discrepancies: Norbert the Norwegian Ridgeback managed to get to Romania on his own, Harry met Draco for the first time at school, not while shopping for school supplies, they discovered who Nicholas Flamel was from a book (Hermione's "light reading), not from an Albus Dumbledore trading card that came with a chocolate frog. There were probably others, but they're not coming to mind right now.

Neville was being picked on. Remember the Remembrall scene? Also, after receiving the Nimbus 2000, Harry made serious eye contact with Minerva McGonagall (she even smiled). The clear implication was that she sent him the broom.

All in all, I enjoyed the movie. It certainly wasn't the greatest film I've ever seen, but it was good solid entertainment.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

The broom's giver was noted. The invisibility cloak's was not. At least I don't believe it was.
Maybe when the DVD comes out, they'll add back some scenes that had to be cut.

[Ammie]

I noticed at the end that Hagrid got to say Harry's closing line from the book. Something about using magic on Dudley over the summer.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

I don't recall Dudley being trapped in the snake's display case.

[Pseudolus]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9ho2rlSoF1qb2lkyo1_500.jpg

[Arthur Kade]

What's with all the bumping of 9 year old threads?

[Egghead]

So, it's true! He DOES always tilt his head to the same side!

[Defying Gravity]

What's with all the great bumping of awesome 9 year old threads?

IFYP

And it probably has to do with HP7.1 coming out in November.

[Pseudolus]

Nah. I have zero interest in the movies. Just saw the silly pic and found a place for it.

[Defying Gravity]

But can I believe that it's for the upcoming Potterfest?!? 'Cause I really need that right about now.

[Pseudolus]

Go nuts.

[MathGuy]

Someone stole my Book 4. (My brother-in-law.)
How do you pronounce "Hermione"?

Hermiiineee?

Or Hermeeeeyohne?

Or Hermoyneee?We used to live in such innocent times, when no one could pronounce Hermione, and before Snape kills Dumbledore.

[Defying Gravity]

Not to mention...

Dumbledore was gay

and

Harry kills Voldemort

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Harry kills Voldemort

Meh. He only kills a fourth of Voldemort, if counting souls (diary, and last part in Voldemort (even that is questionable, since he merely causes the backfire of V's own spell) -- Dumbledore destroys ring; Ron destroys locket; Hermoninny destroys cup; Fiendfyre destroys diadem; Neville destroys Nagini; Voldemort destroys Harry's piece). And that assumes parts of souls are equal. If one assumes halving, then it's a bit more complicated, since we don't know which of the locket or the cup contains more of his soul.
I'm overthinking this. Again.

[ADoubleDot]

But Harry taught all those people how to be awesome wizards without having to study anything ever. This technique of non-effort allowed them to be better at wizardry then people who have been studying and practicing for years and years. All because of the Harry Machina, dues ex.

[Guilty Bystander]

I haven't seen any of the movies, but I'm considering watching this one. I'll probably re-read all da books first, though.

[Patience]

I had a lot more interest in the movies when i was till reading the books

Haven't seen 6 yet

[Dr T Non-Fan]

I had a lot more interest in the movies when i was till reading the books

Haven't seen 6 yet
6 is on heavy rotation on HBO.
It's good, but it's departs from the book a lot. My wife made the mistake of reading the book right before seeing the movie and was quite disappointed.

[Kool-Aid Man]

6 is on heavy rotation on HBO.
It's good, but it's departs from the book a lot. My wife made the mistake of reading the book right before seeing the movie and was quite disappointed.
Does Snape still kill Dumbledore?

[Actuary321]

Barely, but there was something about that scene that wasn't right. I don't remember what it was.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Does Snape still kill Dumbledore?

Yes. But,
The circumstances are such that it is not murder. More of a Kevorkian thing.
Barely, but there was something about that scene that wasn't right. I don't remember what it was.
I'd like to have seen more, if I recall what the book states, "repulsiveness" in one of the characters' faces. It would have lent more ambiguity to the act.
Also, the movie eliminates Dumbledore's orders to keep his Invisibility Cloak with him at all times. So, unlike the book:
1. Harry is not cloaked on the Lightning-Struck Tower;
2. He's not charmed/cursed with petrificus totalis by Dumbledore;
3. Bellatrix is there, due to Helena's celebrity and to whittle the Death Eaters to fewer characters with lines. I don't think Bellatrix is at Hogwarts at all in Book 6.
There is plenty more, I'm sure.
4. Dropped Madame Rosmerta as an involuntary assistant for Draco. So, instead of framing the trip to the cave with visits to Hogsmeade, we don't get their return to the school via brooms, on which Dumbledore incantates counterspells to the security to get through.
5. Dropped Mundungus' selling property of Sirius to Hog's Head Innkeeper, property which is clearly shown in Movie 7 trailers. Gotta add something for the movie outside the book for this, I guess.

[Steve Grondin]

All because of the Harry Machina, dues ex.

Harry Machina is paying alimony?

[Vorian Atreides]

6 is on heavy rotation on HBO.
It's good, but it's departs from the book a lot. My wife made the mistake of reading the book right before seeing the movie and was quite disappointed.
Agree that if you're looking for a direct "copy" of the books, the movies will be disappointing . . . much in the same way of LOTR.

However, if one is open to "variations on a theme," the movies are generally well done--at least to the point of enjoyment--again, much like LOTR.

[Patience]

Yes. But,
The circumstances are such that it is not murder. More of a Kevorkian thing.

wasn't that true in the book as well - just subtely conveyed it has been years since I read it but I thought Dumbledore was dying anyway from drinking the poison - so killing him was really the perfect cover for a spy

[Abused Student]

wasn't that true in the book as well - just subtely conveyed it has been years since I read it but I thought Dumbledore was dying anyway from trying on the ring - so killing him was really the perfect cover for a spy

IFYP

[SamTheEagle]

Why in the world are we using spoilers to discuss books that have been out for several years now?

At any rate, I thought Dumbledore was dying from his encounter with the ring, not from drinking the poison.

[Patience]

Why in the world are we using spoilers to discuss books that have been out for several years now?

At any rate, I thought Dumbledore was dying from his encounter with the ring, not from drinking the poison.

because the movie isn't out yet - and like i said it has been years since I read it

[Vorian Atreides]

Why in the world are we using spoilers to discuss books that have been out for several years now?

At any rate, I thought Dumbledore was dying from his encounter with the ring, not from drinking the poison.
Cuz spoilerz haz kool.

[Defying Gravity]

Why in the world are we using spoilers to discuss books that have been out for several years now?


Because some people (a coworker of mine who may frequent teh AO) is just now getting through HP6. He has worked really hard to not know anything beyond what he's read.

And he's only now getting through them because he just got his ACAS...so pleasure-reading time has been at a minimum.

So that's why I use spoilers. Feel free to not. Just don't get mad when my coworker films you on a webcam having a homosexual tryst and you kill yourself.Too soon?

[MathGuy]

Because the first rule of Harry Potter Club is you don't talk about SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!!!
sucker.

[SamTheEagle]

Yeah, well, they've been out long enough now that I can't believe anyone who cares about the books doesn't already know that.

And if you're that meticulous about not knowing, you shouldn't be clicking in a thread titled "Harry Potter" 3 years after the last book was released.

[Actuary321]

Why in the world are we using spoilers to discuss books that have been out for several years now?

At any rate, I thought Dumbledore was dying from his encounter with the ring, not from drinking the poison.I thought that we were using spoilers because someone in this thread said they were reading the book. But I could be wrong.

Also I thought that the ring had disfigured his hand and was gradually affecting the rest of him and that the poison was compounding that effect. So both were to blame but the poison was now hastening things, so Snape simply hastened things a little more.

because the movie isn't out yet - and like i said it has been years since I read itBut the spoilers are about HP6 not HP7 (or HP7.1 or HP7.2) which is not out in movie form yet.

[Kool-Aid Man]

At any rate, I thought Dumbledore was dying from his encounter with the ring, not from drinking the poison.
That's what I thought, too.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Agree that if you're looking for a direct "copy" of the books, the movies will be disappointing . . . much in the same way of LOTR.

However, if one is open to "variations on a theme," the movies are generally well done--at least to the point of enjoyment--again, much like LOTR.

I don't mind a variation on theme, but the final book wraps up a lot of the loose ends from prior books in ways that are integral to that book's plot. Those plots were taken out of the prior movies, so it'll be harder (and less smooth) to pull it back to the end. Movies 4 and 5 had to cut out a lot. Those two should have been two-parters, and Movie 6, too, come to think of it.

I actually liked Movie 6, even though it was only 200 pages out of 600 or so. Broadbent's Slughorn was an interesting change in that character's focus. I did go into the movie knowing what would be changed, though, so I was prepared for the departure. As I wrote earlier, Helena's Bellatrix is getting a lot more camera time than the book suggests, relative to the many other Deatheaters. Good or bad? Meh. Little of both.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Why in the world are we using spoilers to discuss books that have been out for several years now?

At any rate, I thought Dumbledore was dying from his encounter with the ring, not from drinking the poison.
Yes, but Book 7 explains all that.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

I thought that I thought too much about this, until this came along:

http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/editorials/edit-ladylupin.shtml

[Vorian Atreides]

I thought that I thought too much about this, until this came along:

http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/editorials/edit-ladylupin.shtml
W.O.W.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

W.O.W.

She doesn't even mention the lack of elf magic, nor the lack of understanding it, which is important in Book 7. Instead, we'll just get a tragic ending from out of nowhere.

Unless you mean, "Wow, she's too into this for my taste," then, never mind what I wrote.

[Vorian Atreides]

Well, I think you can get by w/o the elf magic until HP7.1; there was something set up in HP 2 when Dobbie protects HP from Big Malfoy at the end. So I would suspect that they'll bring a bit more of that in for 7.1 so that it's not "out of nowhere" in the big finale in 7.2.

But I did mean that she is WAY overanalyzing this. Next thing we know is that there's going to be a muggle version of quidditch and a World Cup sponsored in 2012 (right after the world ends). Not to mention an actual Hogwarts University getting founded in 2014.

[yoyo]

anyone been to the theme park in florida yet? if so, how is it?

[Vorian Atreides]

Coworker went last summer with his family (youngest about 10 yo). They all loved it tremendously. Plan on adding it to our family's list of travel destinations over the next 10 years.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Well, I think you can get by w/o the elf magic until HP7.1; there was something set up in HP 2 when Dobbie protects HP from Big Malfoy at the end. So I would suspect that they'll bring a bit more of that in for 7.1 so that it's not "out of nowhere" in the big finale in 7.2.

But I did mean that she is WAY overanalyzing this. Next thing we know is that there's going to be a muggle version of quidditch and a World Cup sponsored in 2012 (right after the world ends). Not to mention an actual Hogwarts University getting founded in 2014.
Well, that was just Dobby doing what he wanted to do, though it does show how allowing elves to do whatever they want can be a bad thing.
I referring more to how Kreacher escaped the cave (according to the book, Regulus orders him home). And how Kreacher gradually changes his mood toward Harry and the other two, because Harry was told by Dumbledore not to treat Kreacher as Sirius treated him.

Thing is about film is you don't have to hit someone over the head with a plot device. The visual helps the viewer remember better than a reader might.

[Pills]

I haven't seen the 6th movie in a while (saw it in the theater, and then maybe once afterwards with my 8 year old). I remember being really bugged about what I thought were big things missing in the plot that were integral to the final book.

One of them - the wedding. Fleur/Bill hasn't been covered at all, and they're rather major in the 7th book.

[Vorian Atreides]

Meh, the wedding can make for the opening of HP7.1. The plot device of that wedding in the book was just setting up a misdirection of why Tonks was so moody.

[yankeetripper]

I had a lot more interest in the movies when i was till reading the books

Haven't seen 6 yet

I've read them and seen the movies and honestly I don't even remember the title of the 6th book/movie and have little recollection of what happens in it. Other than

Snape Kills Dumbeldore

[Defying Gravity]

Because the first rule of Harry Potter Club is you don't talk about SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!!!
sucker.

Can I nominate this for the "Best Use of a Spoiler" award? It still makes me chuckle.

[Levin]

I haven't seen the 6th movie in a while (saw it in the theater, and then maybe once afterwards with my 8 year old). I remember being really bugged about what I thought were big things missing in the plot that were integral to the final book.

One of them - the wedding. Fleur/Bill hasn't been covered at all, and they're rather major in the 7th book.
I'd say they are involved in many important scenes, but they as characters are pretty expendable. They have to (a) be escorts among many escorts of Harry decoys, (b) have a wedding, (c) provide a safe setting for the crew to crash after escaping from Malfoy Manor, (d) fight in the Battle of Hogwarts.

Here's how much they need to be covered. "The French girl from the Triwizard Tournament is marrying Ron's big brother. Everyone is coming to the wedding." Done.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

I'd say they are involved in many important scenes, but they as characters are pretty expendable. They have to (a) be escorts among many escorts of Harry decoys, (b) have a wedding, (c) provide a safe setting for the crew to crash after escaping from Malfoy Manor, (d) fight in the Battle of Hogwarts.

Here's how much they need to be covered. "The French girl from the Triwizard Tournament is marrying Ron's big brother. Everyone is coming to the wedding." Done.
I guess.
In Book 4, she was "eyeing him with interest" when he came to watch the final Triwizard Challenge with the Weasley parents.

[Streetlight 22]

anyone been to the theme park in florida yet? if so, how is it?

Yes! It's absolutely amazing!

One of my favorite minor details that they put into it is when you go in the bathrooms, you can hear moaning myrtle.

I personally thought butterbeer was gross, but my fiance loved it.

[yoyo]

cool, looking fwd to it

[Defying Gravity]

Anybody see HP7.1 at midnight this morning?

I'll be there at the normal-people 7:00pm showing tonight.

Let the end begin!!

[Vorian Atreides]

Plan to see it tomorrow afternoon.

And I thought is was "let's begin the end"!

[Defying Gravity]

Plan to see it tomorrow afternoon.

And I thought is was "let's begin the end"!

You say tuh-MAY-toe. I say, "I didn't know the 'begin-end' was a real thing people said."

I intentionally didn't reread DH so I wouldn't be disappointed/not surprised by the movie.

Should be a fun night (for me) tomorrow (for you)! You taking the mini-VA's too?

[Dr T Non-Fan]

I intentionally didn't reread DH so I wouldn't be disappointed/not surprised by the movie.

Good advice. You can reread it afterward to see just how screwed up the movie was.
I think the film will use a lot more of Harry's link to Voldemort, to fill in the myriad details missing from prior movies but are necessary to the story. He'll know where the diadem and the cup will be in this manner. Maybe.

I'm going with the possibility that Steve Kloves (writer) didn't have time to read any book ahead of his current film's book, and JKR never bothered to clue him in.

[lipman]

I went to a 7:30 charity screening yesterday. Good adaptation from the book, atlhough there was a directoral choice that I wasn't too fond of. Made me feel like pedo-bear.

[Actuary321]

I really should be more interested. I didn't see HBP in a movie theater. First time I saw it was last Christmas when we got it on BlueRay to go with our new BlueRay player.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

I went to a 7:30 charity screening yesterday. Good adaptation from the book, atlhough there was a directoral choice that I wasn't too fond of. Made me feel like pedo-bear.
Meh. They're "of age."

[lipman]

Meh. They're "of age."

There were actually two parts, the first was way more innocent, but involved an "underage" weasley.

[Actuary321]

I read something that said the movie gives tests on previous movies without giving the answers.

Not totally sure what that meant except maybe they make reference to things in other movies which may or may not have been bit things in those movies without providing a full development of it?

[Dr T Non-Fan]

There were actually two parts, the first was way more innocent, but involved an "underage" weasley.
She knows what she wants. Always has.
And she reminds him of her mother.

[Chief Petosky]

Wife and older son saw a midnight showing and loved it. I will take our younger son next week.

[Vorian Atreides]

You say tuh-MAY-toe. I say, "I didn't know the 'begin-end' was a real thing people said."

I intentionally didn't reread DH so I wouldn't be disappointed/not surprised by the movie.

Should be a fun night (for me) tomorrow (for you)! You taking the mini-VA's too?
Nope . . . just Mrs VA and myself.

Haven't let the mini's watch any of the movies after HP3 due to the central theme of death. We want to see how graphic the (near) death scenes are played out in HP7.1 before deciding when to let them finish watching the other movies.

I know that it's been well done and much of the death scenes aren't gory, but waiting until summer where my older (daughter) will have a chance to mature more and finish reading all of the books sot that her school work isn't impacted on the chance of an "adverse response" to the material in visual form.

[radoaos]

Lady and I are going tonight. She could care less about the movies, but I enjoy them.

[r. mutt]

I saw it at midnight. It was gripping, but not spectacular. It did have one scene I thought was kind of odd, but maybe I still need to mull it over:

Harry and Hermione dancing in the tent. Kind of a standard movie piece, but it had a weird vibe to me. In any other movie it would have presaged a hell of a kiss.

[Browncoat]

How come, when Fred and George had the Marauder's Map, they didn't notice their little brother Ron slept every night with a man named Peter Pettigrew (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FridgeLogic)?!?!?!

[tommie frazier]

good question, but not sure how often they used it. that was the first year he had scabbers at school, right? it is possible but unlikely that if they saw pettigrew in close proximity, like in the gryffindor common room, they assumed he was some first year. but very unlikely to me given the school size and the alleged closeness of the houses.

most likely that the last thing they looked for on that map was ron or harry or any other kid. they were watching out for snape and filch and others.

[Ron Weasley]

Huh.

[MightySchoop]

good question, but not sure how often they used it. that was the first year he had scabbers at school, right? it is possible but unlikely that if they saw pettigrew in close proximity, like in the gryffindor common room, they assumed he was some first year. but very unlikely to me given the school size and the alleged closeness of the houses.

most likely that the last thing they looked for on that map was ron or harry or any other kid. they were watching out for snape and filch and others.

Ron had Scabbers at school for three years at that point. Before that, it is implied that Percy had Scabbers. Even if F & G had not been using the map much during the time Ron had him, they certainly were when PERCY had scabbers and would have been watching out for Percy on the map.

[Chief Petosky]

When did the twins get the map? I'm thinking they found it in Filch's office but can't remember when. Maybe they weren't aware that "the map never lies." Or more likely, it's something JKR might not have considered. And if those four students could make such a map, I would think Dummydore would have constructed something similar, and, if he had, would it have shown Quirell to be Q/V in Sorcerer's Stone?

[tommie frazier]

Ron had Scabbers at school for three years at that point. Before that, it is implied that Percy had Scabbers. Even if F & G had not been using the map much during the time Ron had him, they certainly were when PERCY had scabbers and would have been watching out for Percy on the map.

thanks for the correction.

[ShakeNBakes]

When did the twins get the map? I'm thinking they found it in Filch's office but can't remember when. Maybe they weren't aware that "the map never lies." Or more likely, it's something JKR might not have considered. And if those four students could make such a map, I would think Dummydore would have constructed something similar, and, if he had, would it have shown Quirell to be Q/V in Sorcerer's Stone?
pretty sure they said they nicked it from Filch in their first year.

[Browncoat]

good question, but not sure how often they used it. that was the first year he had scabbers at school, right? it is possible but unlikely that if they saw pettigrew in close proximity, like in the gryffindor common room, they assumed he was some first year. but very unlikely to me given the school size and the alleged closeness of the houses.

most likely that the last thing they looked for on that map was ron or harry or any other kid. they were watching out for snape and filch and others.

I disagree. While very useful for sneaking out at night, if I had a magic map like that, I'd certainly look up everyone I knew when I was bored in my room.

[tommie frazier]

thinking more of it, did it show students or underage wizards at all? because if it showed all the students there would be places it is unreadably busy and so they wouldn't see peter pettigrew next to anyone as all the names would be a huge jumble.

did it only show the holders and the grownup wizards, staff+others?

[MightySchoop]

thinking more of it, did it show students or underage wizards at all?

It showed Harry while he was holding it. Lupin confiscates it because it could lead Black (then thought to be Dark) to Harry.

I thought for a second maybe the original Marauders made themselves invisible to the map (then it wouldn't show Pettigrew) but that doesn't work because Pettigrew shows up on the map (Lupin sees him in the book, Harry in the movie).

Rowling has said she considered Hogwarts to have about a thousand students, which would help justify the "didn't recognize the name" theory, but also has admitted she is bad at math, which is why the thousand students figure is totally inconsistent with the size of Harry's class.

[soyleche]

It showed Harry while he was holding it. Lupin confiscates it because it could lead Black (then thought to be Dark) to Harry.

I thought for a second maybe the original Marauders made themselves invisible to the map (then it wouldn't show Pettigrew) but that doesn't work because Pettigrew shows up on the map (Lupin sees him in the book, Harry in the movie).

Rowling has said she considered Hogwarts to have about a thousand students, which would help justify the "didn't recognize the name" theory, but also has admitted she is bad at math, which is why the thousand students figure is totally inconsistent with the size of Harry's class.

Harry has trouble finding Malfoy on it when it turns out he was in the Room of Requirement.

Harry also sits and stares at Ginny's name on it at times too.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Well, you take your thumb and index finger together, touch the map and spread your thumb and index finger to enlarge that spot on the map.

Pretty sure JKR has a lawsuit against Apple for this idea.

I'm guessing Dumbledore knows where everyone is at all times in the school. Maybe one of the objects in his room helps out. If Mad-Eye's eye can see through walls and floors/ceilings with his "false" eye, Dumbledore probably has something similar.

Yes, it shows underage wizards. Showed Draco Malfoy in the Slytherin Common Room (Book 6), but it did not show him when he went in to the Room For Requirement.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

10 kids in each class, 4 houses, 7 years.....carry the one.... 280 kids.

[Ron Weasley]

10 kids in each class, 4 houses, 7 years.....carry the one.... 280 kids.

Yeah, but with four times the trouble.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Yeah, but with four times the trouble.
OK, that puts it over 1000.