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Shaft
01-15-2003, 08:41 AM
Has anybody used Opera and what do think of it?

Cho Da
01-15-2003, 08:50 AM
I find the ads annoying. Mozilla (http://mozilla.org) is free and is very nice for turning off animated images, preventing popups.
Tabbed browsing is well worth it. Here, I can select "View posts since last visit, then middle click each one I want to read and the browser opens up a tab for each. (Opera has the tabbed browsing feature, too.)

DW Simpson
01-15-2003, 04:10 PM
I love Opera. Especially the intuitive way they scroll my Favorites.

actuary-at-large
01-15-2003, 04:49 PM
Shaft,

Thanks for digging up the article--please check your private messages! I sent you a way to get ahold of me if you think the article in question is worth sending.

Thx again.

Obi-Wan Kenobi
01-15-2003, 05:40 PM
I paid for Opera. I use Beonex (a Mozilla variant) more. I don't use IE if I can help it.

MathGuy
01-16-2003, 08:38 AM
I've been using Mozilla for a week or so, so I'll admit that I'm not a "power user", but I like it, althoughit seems to have trouble rendering text (many lines are smushed), images (images that are meant to touch have a line between them) and tables (extraneous borders). Also, the home button is not part of the main toolbar, and no matter how many times I tell it I want to use Google as my search engine, it returns results from "Netscape Search: Results powered by Google", which isn't the same, and my scroll mouse doesn't work Other than that, tabs seem cool, as does the ability to change skins. Overall, I think IE does a better job at what it does, although it did tend to crash if I dragged an address instead of clicking (Mozilla hasn't crashed yet).

Cho Da
01-16-2003, 08:53 AM
although [Mozilla] seems to have trouble rendering text (many lines are smushed), images (images that are meant to touch have a line between them) and tables (extraneous borders). I would suggest that this is more likely caused by sloppy page design. IE has a very loose rendering (and well known bugs). Since it is the most used browser, many web page designers test in IE and go no further, even if the only reason their page renders at all is due to IE's sloppieness.
A feature I found just recently is: Edit, Preferences, Appearance, Fonts, minimum font size. I set this to 12 and I don't have to squint at stuff any more.

Cho Da
01-16-2003, 03:01 PM
101 things that the Mozilla browser can do that IE cannot. (http://www.xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/reasons.html)
Enjoy.

Lucy
01-18-2003, 01:49 PM
I've used Mozilla, Netscape, IE, and Omniweb extensively, but am embarrassed to say I haven't done much with Opera except try it once to see if it worked.

But I've just tried Safari (the new browser from Apple, based on some open-source project with a name like "crusher") and I have to say I am very impressed. What impresses me most is that it really does render pages faster. Even with a phone line, the difference is striking, and with DSL the difference (while smaller in total seconds) is even more impressive. I never realized how much difference a browser could make.

Safari is also clean in appearance and has some nice features, especially snap-back. I've never used tabs, but this accomplishes something similar - giving you an easy way to jump back to your google search, for example.

I don't like the privacy options as much as the ones on Omniweb, but the speed is really nice, and these aren't bad. I'll have to play around and see how it works overall.

But I gave it a warm enough review that my husband is looking for the Linux version for our other computer.

DW Simpson
02-12-2003, 11:18 AM
New Opera http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t272-s2130256,00.html

E. Blackadder
02-15-2003, 06:48 PM
Even newer Opera! (http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2003/02/14/)