Mole Contest 2

[Mulan]

I don't know how to make those link thingies, but check out the WC new game : Mole Challenge 2!! Mister Nacho is running it and it looks fun. It would be cool to have some RF join in.

[Patience]

you can just copy & paste off of the address bar, the link is automatic

for what its worth I liked your other signature better
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I've been through the desert on a horse with no name...
In the desert you can remember your name
'Cause there ain't no one for to give you no pain

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[Anonymous]

Mole of the water cooler 2 (http://www.casact.org/students/forums/noncgi/Forum14/HTML/002875.html)

And I still haven't read his post.

[Mulan]

Patience, what was the other sig you liked?

[Damn, Dirty Ape]

I may be interested, but I have two concerns.

Concern number one: I have never seen the show, and I don't understand what to do if I were to play.

Concern number two: I'm not registered at the Water Cooler.

Concern number 1.5: There may be too much inside information over there for a Rebel to be competitive.

Is there any information out there on other Forum-based games that we could set up? I liked the a-z game (although I missed it). Are there any others?

[Gandalf]

Yes, looks intriguing. I just e-mailed Hagbard concerns similar to DDA's, since I wasn't sure any of you WC types would be checking in again today.

Nacho wrote (over there): "Please note:
As Draco would say: 'The mistakes of the past have been corrected.' "

Is he saying that having a game on this more open environment was a mistake :sad: ?

[Mulan]

From what I have heard, the first WC Mole game was very time consuming and the point system cumbersome.

I believe Hagbard said you could ask the CAS to register you.

I am WC, but new. I am joining the game. If there is inside WC jokes, I won't know them either - so there (foot stamp).

[Patience]

On 2001-11-16 16:49, Mulan wrote:
Patience, what was the other sig you liked?


I've got a name and that name is Ping

Though since my PingPong line fell so flat back when, you might as well keep this one.

[Mulan]

Patience, I don't remember it falling flat. You didn't see me smile?? Oops, guess I forgot to post the smilie. I'll change it if it means so much to you :grin:

[Damn, Dirty Ape]

you could ask the CAS to register you

Ugh. Too much work. Too much TV to watch. No time to deal with "the CAS" (whatever that means).

So there is no way to play "cross-forum"? S'okay.

[Mulan]

DDA, I posted on the WC about whether the game host would play the game cross-forum. I'll let you know what happens. :smile:

[Gandalf]

If a WC resident reads this, please post over there that I'm interested, but not sure I can commit to it. I need to know more about the conditions and time frames.

I did e-mail Mike Boa (is he the right person?) about getting Gandalf registered on the WC.

[Anonymous]

Gandalf, I will inform mister nacho of your interest with a post. I posted The mistakes of the past have been corrected. because of past problems with time consumption. Mister nacho and I have developed several games that have been played on the Water Cooler. We both have realized that the games need to be created such that very little time is taken from the employers of participants. Originally this meant actual game time should be limited to a small time frame like the contest Ebenezer Kohl administered here. There was a certain unfortunate game idea of mine that had a limited time frame for each participant. However each participant was extremely concerned about the play of every other participant. Additionally participants were practicing at home expending countless hours preparing to play. This resulted in the debacle known as Othello. As time passes it is becoming increasingly funny, but nobody wants to repeat the near 1500 posts and emails this one game consumed, not to mention personal study of the game and considerations of bringing in a consultant on the game. Mister nacho hopes to avoid this at all costs.

[Anonymous]

Firstly, please excuse the feminin of my usual moniker. Someone else nabbed the "mister nacho" label for some reason, and I registered with this when I was invited to play with the WC Chicks in the A-Z game.

OK, Draco properly addressed the question about what was meant by "the mistakes of the past." As fun as some of the past challenges were, they were very time-consuming. That will not be the case here.

There is no need to watch the show to play this game. But knowledge of how it is played is helpful, so here's a quick synopsis for those who didn't watch it:

A group of people are presented with challenges. If they succeed, money is placed in the pot (the winner at the end gets all accumulated money). If they fail, money is not added. In some cases, money is withdrawn if rules of the game are broken. Within the group, there is a double agent - a mole. The mole's role is to gain trust, and appear helpful, while trying to sabotage the challenge without being too obvious. In some cases, the mole will not sabotage the game to hide its identity. If the mole thinks they won't win the challenge, he/she may really try hard, knowing it's work has already been done. Other times, there is outright sabotage, but usually done in such a way that there may be another explanation for the mole's actions.

Each week, all the players take a quiz. The quiz is a series of questions about the mole. Whoever scores the worst on the quiz (i.e. the most clueless person as to who the mole is) is "executed." That person is out of the game. So, there are a couple goals to the game: (a) be successful in challenges to win money; (b) pay attention to everyone's actions and figure out who the mole is.

A strategy of some of the players is to at times do something that can be perceived as an act of sabotage. This is to get people to vote for them as the mole, giving them a better chance at surviving the execution quiz.

There are a couple terms that are helpful:

exemption: the host of the game may at any time offer a player an exemption from the next quiz. The player generally has to choose between sabotaging the challenge and losing out on the money and getting an exemption, or declining the offer of the exemption. An exemption means that the person will not have to take the next quiz and will stay in the game.

Neutralization: A player may be neutralized, meaning that there is no chance of that person getting an exemption for the next quiz.

Execution: The person with the lowest score on the mole quiz.

The bulletin board rules are posted, so no need to reiterate those here. Notice that it's different from the TV show. It was very difficult coming up with challenges for the group to achieve. It is much easier to have competitions. Thus the change. Also, the point scoring in the previous game was basically meaningless. This time it will be more meaningful. Highest total at the end wins.

Finally, I don't think there is any "inside information" between water cooler folks that will matter in the game. A newbie should have just as good of an opportunity. I suppose some people know other's strengths, so they may have some insight. But that could also work against them in this game.

I don't believe registering for the Water Cooler is any big deal. I can't think of any good way to run this contest across forums, but I'm willing to listen to suggestions.

[Gandalf]

Gandalf has been known to feign offense where none is warranted, just to stir up interest (?). I can't imagine any RF fans, even Gandalf, really took the "mistakes of the past" as dissing us.

He's even forgiven that skunk or whatever it was :smile: for leaving Aimless.

As far as water cooler registration, automated registration was shut down the last two times I tried, but I assume the CAS staff will be able to help me. I even rashly suggested in the e-mail to Mike Boa that I could find some WC regulars who could vouch that my RF posts were within WC standards.

MN, I'm sending you a private message on this forum with my concerns and an e-mail address.

If I'm not in Mole 2, it will be due to concerns about time commitments, not in objection to the conditions, other participants, or those running the game. Or unless I'm sulking because you won't promise I can be the mole.

[Gandalf]

Wow!

Thanks, Draco.

I just saw that powerful wizard picture you found for me. It’s got to help avec les femmes.

http://www.gratisgifs.com/images/people/merlin.gif

What do you think, Lara, Mulan and Natasha? Makes me look at least 200 years younger, doesn’t it?


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<font size=-2>99% Aimless (need 1% concentration to avoid stumbling into the Desert)</font>

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[Lara Croft]

Gandalf, you are quite the stud! :wink:

[Anonymous]

Gandalf, I have sent you an e-mail. My e-mail address is mister_nacho@hotmail.com, for anyone else wanting to contact me.

The game will not start until 2002 due to the holidays, in case that was keeping anyone away.

My mistake on the registration. I did not realize that there are no new registrations allowed on the WC. Hopefully this is temporary. Looks like the trolls are getting their way.

[snarf]

[Gandalf]

Much leaner before? Hmmm. Guess this picture will have to go.

It's just so hard to keep those pounds off after countless centuries.

[Anonymous]

Leaner but less powerful: http://www.gratisgifs.com/images/people/bhwizard11x1.gif

[Gandalf]

The first one is definitely better.

Trust me, all, it's just the robe giving the illusion of weight.

[Mulan]

Far be it from me to judge a wizard (or anyone) by his looks... Gandalf, you must be happy with Who You Are, and not worry about How You Look. Then you will find inner peace.

Good advice for all of us who are not always what we seem.

[Gandalf]

Wise words, Mulan.

In this forum, I must judge you, to the extent I judge at all, by posts, and rate you highly.

In Mole 2, I shall be more skeptical. :smile:

[Gandalf]

To my CAS friends,

Thank you for your support in the rankings vs Dumbledore.

I was going to jump all over Pseudolus for posting where I couldn't defend myself, but all is forgiven since he too picked me.

If Wolverine supports me there, even his desertion will be forgiven. [And if not, I just may sign up for a refresher course on Transformations with Snape, or whoever's teaching it this term.]

[Hagbard Celine]

Dumbledore's got nothin' on you.

Safeweb (http://www.safeweb.com) no longer works so I can't check personal email from work..

[glenn]

hagbard - if you can view this site, you can use the 'private messages' feature here instead of email (at least for other members of the forum). It's at the top right of your screen.

[Hagbard Celine]

Thanks Glenn,

that's a good suggestion.

Anyone who wishes to send me a private message during the day, please use this function. If it is not time sensitive, then you can continue to use my hotmail address.

[Flora]

Gandalf - I agree, go with the first image! And if you find your way over to WC soon, be sure to put in an application for WCChicks little brother!

[Mulan]

I'm here and ready to play! Here... let me warm up.... (Gandalf is the mole!)

[Gandalf]

Here and ready to sabotage.

[Big Ed]

Big Ed = Big Ed. I'm still in.

[Hagbard Celine]

hagbard = hagbard

in the house

[Flora]

checking in!

[Anonymous]

http://www.gratisgifs.com/images/other/nakey.gif I would still like to play. :grin:

[Gandalf]

Is that supposed to be a mole?

Or are you morphing into the Rudolph among reindeer?

[G. Ringo]

I don't want to be mole game.

[Anonymous]

Gandalf, are you impressed by the size of my nose? :smile:

Draco, I believe your post and my e-mail crossed paths in cyberspace.
May I use this line on Ammie? :wink:

[Anonymous]

how many miles could you jog without stopping?
This is like asking how long can you stare at the sun.

[Gandalf]

"This is like asking how long can you stare at the sun."

Don't be so technical. Even though there's less daylight in winter, come up with a number. Make sure it's consistent with your resident state, though; days now are shorter in AK.

Or were you implying you would jog forever in pursuit of Ammie, based on this:

On 2001-11-27 08:57, Draco Malfoy wrote (in "I Love Ammie"):
http://www.emoticons.f2s.com/happy/love1.gif How can one truly warm the sun?

[Gandalf]

On 2001-12-18 14:06, mister nacho wrote:
However, please fill out the profile with reasonable human characteristics. Don't put "martian" for race or 299 for shoe size.

Here is the profile you must build:

1-Age
4-Race


How about age modulo 100? The Middle Earth was long ago.

Is race just wizard vs muggle, or is Maiar considered distinct?

[Meshuga]

Mister Nacho -

Meshuga, present and still in the game!

[Anonymous]

Gandalf, do you have any idea about how obsessive I can be? For this type of question I don’t want to suggest that I could jog a marathon but at the same time I could easily jog a reasonable distance without a problem. Just how far could I jog without stopping? I don’t know. Trying to find out would result in great physical pain.

[Gandalf]

On 2001-12-18 14:55, Draco Malfoy wrote:
Gandalf, do you have any idea about how obsessive I can be?

Having seen your posts about Ammie, I have a clue. :smile:

But as nacho is not soliciting personal info, does it matter? Gandalf is thousands of years old, has been described in this forum as behaving like an 8th grader, and IRL is somewhere in between.

The real trap for you is the age question. Claim to be under 19, and the ABCD will be onto you for the drink you ordered at the Informal.

As the mole my first assigned task is getting everyone confused about the questionnaire.

[Cynical Realist]

I'm here Nacho, and will still play. I hadn't been reading all the posts out here.

I used to post as Draco Malfry on the WC a long, long time ago, but Cynical Realist is such a cooler name that I switched, so:

Cynical Realist = Cynical Realist

[Insider]

Is there still room? I'll play.

[Anonymous]

Hello mister nacho. http://www.emoticons.f2s.com/happy/spiny.gif

[Kid Rock]

I did not get a profile entry. I will send you an e-mail to make sure you have the right address.

[Hagbard Celine]

Mister Nacho, please check your Private Messages.

[Insider]

Mister Nacho,

Just confirming you got my profile. I sent it a couple weeks ago.

Insider

[Anonymous]

count me in if its not too late

[Anonymous]

Profile on page 2? I'm sorry, I was reading the full rules under miss nacho on page 1. Now I'm confused. Perhaps I'd better just watch and see how many games are actually developing here.

[Gandalf]

ODB, If you are interested in playing, the profile is nacho's post at 14:06 on 12/18.

The rules on page 1 say there are weekly quizzes about the mole, with most clueless person dropped. The profiles are the source of info about the players. E.g., if a quiz question is "How many bicycles does the mole own?" you'll answer based on your guess as to who the mole is and that person's profile (all the profiles will be available to all players, I believe). You may want to consider all the profiles before answering. E.g., if 8 profiles say "1 bike", you may want to answer 1, even if the person that's your best guess for the mole has 3 bikes.

[Anonymous]

Am I guessing at/creating a fictitious profile for the mole whose identity we're trying to determine?

Gandalf: I'm not sure where you're looking to see these profiles.

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[Anonymous]

Are we supposed to "submit" a profile that stays secret or are we supposed to alter our rebel forum profile so that people can readily view it?

[Bob the Dog]

*sigh* you people assume a lot. You'd think you'd have me figured out by now. :smile:
Now, nacho, some of these people have no idea what kind of snake you are. Clearly Hag, Kid, Flora, CR, Buzz and myself know this first-hand, but the others may not.

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[Anonymous]

On 2002-01-09 18:36, mister nacho wrote:
Oh, and the profiles are NOT posted. I am the keeper of the profiles. They have been sent to my e-mail address. Gandalf was just using an example of what could happen. (One looks at the profiles of all 12 people, and maybe 8 have the same answer. Do you give that answer, even if you think someone else is the mole?)


If the profiles aren't posted, how can we be "looking at the profiles of all 12 people?"

[Anonymous]

Although you can provide all the details you want to, it wouldn't be a good move, strategically, for everyone to know everything about you and you to know very little about everyone else.

So ideally, I wouldn't want to answer any of the profile questions?

[Anonymous]

Is there anyone out there who can explain this to me?

Please wait until after you've replied before packing the first bongload of the day.

[Pseudolus]

...if you had only asked five minutes sooner...

[Anonymous]

Thanks for my first genuine LOL of the day!!!

[Hagbard Celine]

ODB,

Just fill out a profile with fictional information and email it to Mister Nacho's email account.

Then just follow the flow...

Honestly, that's all I know about the whole thing and I'm playing.

[Anonymous]

Hagbard, I like your attitude...

::ODB proceeds to kick back and go with the flow::

Dig it!

(lordy I'm such an anal b****** somtimes)

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[Gandalf]

On 2002-01-10 10:25, ODB@WuTang.com wrote:
If the profiles aren't posted, how can we be "looking at the profiles of all 12 people?"



I didn't play Mole 1, and misunderstood how the profiles would be used.

If any contestants are confused about the profiles, just let me know and I'll send you mine as an example. Of course it will be my real profile. Trust me.

[Anonymous]

If any contestants are confused about the profiles, just let me know and I'll send you mine as an example.


Gandalf: OK...I'll take you up on that. Use ODB_WuTang@go.com.

p.s. Do you think we needed to save a copy of our profiles that we sent to Nacho? Because I didn't save a copy for myself.

[Hagbard Celine]

I didn't save a copy of mine either.

I'm sure nacho'll send us a copy if we do need it.

[Anonymous]

Nacho: Well, if we do need our profile and you can't send us a copy, I won't be able to participate then.

[Anonymous]

1Mulan
2Gandalf
3Big Ed
4Hagbard Celine
5Flora
6Buzz Lightyear
7Meshuga
8Cynical Realist
9Insider
10Kid Rock
11Polly Nomial
12ODB@WuTang.com

Are we having fun yet?

[Shrek]

More than you can imagine :tup:

[Hagbard Celine]

Mister Nacho,

LOL!!! I guess I should have learned my lesson about assuming things about you! :smile:

Geez, I have such a short memory!

[Anonymous]

Is that it? Is the game over?

[Hagbard Celine]

That's it...you lose!! :wink:

That was just an exercise to choose the mole. The first game is on Monday, unless Nacho is on his business trip pretending to work. :wink: I don't remember what he said was the final decision regarding that though.

After the first game, he'll give us a quiz where we try our best to peg the mole. The person with the most incorrect answers on their quiz is out of the game.

By the way, in Mole I...I was this humiliated person. I plan on making it further this time around...at least to round 2.

[Anonymous]

That's it...you lose!!


Boy, that was fast.

Hmmm...I've heard those words somewhere before...

[Anonymous]

I'll keep following along anyway.

[Hagbard Celine]

You realize I was kidding?

Hence, the :wink:

[Kid Rock]

217 and 42

[Hagbard Celine]

Very good choices Kid Rock.

You're a tough competitor.

[Shrek]

I dunno, I think 217 is kind of high.

[Hagbard Celine]

I can see how you would think that without Kid Rock's higher intellect.

With a little more experience, you'll see that 217 is the only choice.

Well played indeed.

[Anonymous]

As a competitor sidelined early in the game, I must say, I am still completely mystified.

Oh how I long for the simple days of Space Invaders and Missile Command...

[Flora]

Wow - I checked in earlier today and now I have missed ALL the action!

OK so we are on for Monday. Let me knwo when so I can make sure my boss is NOT in my office then!!!

[Flora]

individuals are getting points? I thought this was going to be like the tv show with a pool of points and we are trying to get the pool up to a certain amount. Or do you mean like last time with the group getting X and the mole getting Y based on the outcome?

[Anonymous]

On 2002-01-10 17:26, mister nacho wrote:
And for those still a little in the dark, here is the link to the Water Cooler thread.
http://www.casact.org/students/forums/noncgi/Forum14/HTML/002875.html

Between that thread, and this one, all questions should be answered. If not, post them here and I will clear things up.


Oh yeah...thanks for the link...that really helped ::eyes roll::

86 other people asking the same perplexing questions I'm busy asking. I'd think I've been completely duped and there is no "game" except that no one's asked me for money...YET.

[Cynical Realist]

What??? You didn't send your check yet??? I thought the game was suppose to start on Monday?

[Flora]

wow, I haven't seen one of these since I subscribed to Games Magazine!!!

[Hagbard Celine]

mister nacho,

this confirms it, you are the evilist of all the evils.

[Anonymous]

Still, I am lost...what are we supposed to be doing? Gandalf tells me we're supposed to be writing messages like:

"You haven't lost yet, though it won't disturb me if you are the one eliminated after the first quiz - nothing personal."

Apparently, this is supposed to be perceived as some kind of trickery, but I've no idea why.

Perhaps I'm missing the point...is there a goal to the game, or is it a role-playing game, like Dungeons and Dragons?

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[Mulan]

I'm not sure if you are really confused or if you are just pulling our legs, but here goes.

It is kind of like a role playing game -sort of. There are us players and one of us is the mole (I'm betting on Kid Rock, but I have nothing really to go on yet.) Detail about the profiles are provided to help us answer quiz questions or may be useful during the challenges. mister nacho will give us a challenge every week - the goal is to win it to collect points and also to gain information about the who you think the mole is by their actions/inaction.

Right after the challenge, mister nacho will post a quiz about the identity of the mole, the player that is the most clueless (scores the worst) on the quiz is out. This continues until there is 2 players - the winner and the mole. Then all is revealed (if nacho and the mole don't lie about the result of the final quiz, just to pull someone's chain) and the post mortem begins.

[Cynical Realist]

On 2002-01-11 09:25, Cynical Realist wrote:
What??? You didn't send your check yet??? I thought the game was suppose to start on Monday?


Nacho - I was being facitious. It was meant as one continuous sarcastic retort - that the clueless one hadn't sent his money in yet when the game was starting on Monday. (I hate when I have to explain these things)

[the mole]

"if nacho and the mole don't lie"

Trust me. Don't trust nacho. Don't trust each other.

[Anonymous]

See, if we can never trust Nacho, then the game has no point. We'll never be able to tell who the mole is, since everyone, including Nacho could be lying about it. So if we never have any basis for discovering "truth" what are we doing?

Unless we are to assume that Nacho is ALWAYS lying or ALWAYS telling the truth, we'll never be able to discover who the mole is.

[Anonymous]

Note to self: my new hypothesis is that I can't pass the friggin' exams because subconsciously I really fear becoming a member of a society populated by morons.

"...because of the un-freezing process, I have no inner monologue..."

[Shrek]

Buzz 100 cmmister nacho, please consult my profile, I believe I represented myself 88% taller than this.

[Anonymous]

On 2002-01-11 15:33, Buzz Lightyear wrote:
Buzz 100 cmmister nacho, please consult my profile, I believe I represented myself 88% taller than this.


Wouldn't you like to stay this height and get it on with the 13" princesses singing to Mothra?

[Anonymous]

On 2002-01-11 15:36, mister nacho wrote:
Here is some additional information. THe mole is one of the following:

Big Ed
Buzz Lightyear
Cynical Realist
Flora
Gandalf
Hagbard Celine
Insider
Kid Rock
Meshuga
Mulan
ODB@WuTang.com
Polly Nomial



...but he could just as well not be one of these people.

[Shrek]

On 2002-01-11 15:45, mister nacho wrote:
Buzz, you are correct. I take full responsibility for that error. However, because of the way I have put together the profile clues, I can't change it. For the purposes of the game, you are now officially three feet, three inches tall. Sorry.

If I change it, and none of the clues change, that provides more information. If I change it and some clues change, that also provides information. So, you are 100 cm through no fault of your own.

Hey, didn't I see you in Wizard of Oz?! :wink:
Actually, that was my concern. If the 100 cm was a typo (and my 188 cm was carried through the clues) one may get erroneous result.

At 100cm / 100kg you can bet I'm totally buff :grin:

[Anonymous]

Although, since we can't trust anyone, Buzz might not be 100 cm in either his profile or according to the clues.

We must also include the possibility that Buzz isn't even playing the game.

[Anonymous]

Is anyone else gettin' a chub from all the excitement?

[Anonymous]

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

Its now occurred to me that I might only be communicating with just one other person who is operating under many different aliases, so that I may be playing this game merely tete-a-tete.

Reasoning further, its possible that *I'm* the one talking to myself with aliases I just don't remember creating and the whole game, perhaps the whole board, is merely mental masturbation.

Speaking of masturbation...mmmm...donuts....

[Anonymous]

My bologna has a first name!

[Anonymous]

I know who the mole is!
I know who the mole is!
Nanny-Nanny-Poo-Poo!

[the mole]

On 2002-01-12 00:57, elmo wrote:
I know who the mole is!
I know who the mole is!
Nanny-Nanny-Poo-Poo!


Trust only me. Elmo is wrong. I have never posted as "Nanny-Nanny-Poo-Poo".

Elmo, you should have greater respect for fellow furry creatures.

[Nanny-Nanny-Poo-Poo]

elmo! How DARE you publicly post the nickname that I use only in flirting PM exchanges with you?

Do you want me to tell everyone our special nickname for you? :grin:

[Anonymous]

On 2002-01-12 21:44, Nanny-Nanny-Poo-Poo wrote:

Do you want me to tell everyone our special nickname for you? :grin:



Knock yourself out. :grin:

[Anonymous]

Knock yourself out. :grin:

Isn't this what mama said?

[Anonymous]

Once again, I ask, "Do we need to have saved a copy of our profile?"

Another competitor is asking me for it, and I didn't keep a copy.

When I get my answer, how will I know if I can believe you, if one of the rules of the game is that everyone including Nacho can lie?

[Kid Rock]

Wooohooo. I just found my excel spreadsheet that had the profiles from the first Mole competition. Although some of the people OBVIOUSLY changed their profiles in some cases, it makes nacho's tedious game of guessing what goes where a little easier, especially since I still have to take the quizzes and did not save my own!

It looks to me like Big Ed grew and Flora lost some weight.

[Mulan]

I've been called to a meeting at mole game time! I can't believe it. Best of luck to my team!

Mulan

[Anonymous]

On 2002-01-14 10:02, Mulan wrote:
I've been called to a meeting at mole game time! I can't believe it. Best of luck to my team!

Mulan

The game goes on for more than a day or a few minutes doesn't it???

[Kid Rock]

Mulan could be going to the same meeting as nacho!

[Anonymous]

Seriously, the game does last more than one day doesn't? I fail to see how a single meeting could interfere.

[Anonymous]

Thanks Monsieur Nacho. I take it I am indeed already out of the game, since I wasn't put on a team?

[Anonymous]

Ah-ha...so teams have been selected just not announced.

[Cynical Realist]

Yes ODB, the teams have been determined and so have the results - they just haven't been publicly announced yet. An inside source tells me your team lost today - not that that's a surprise.

[Anonymous]

My spidey sense is tingling!

No, wait...my fly was just open...

[Anonymous]

Synching up with rebel time...PC clock says HH hours and 53 minutes...

[Kid Rock]

2:58 PM

[Polly Nomial]

I'm baaa-aaack and OK to go!

[Pseudolus]

(mister nacho needs a faster laptop. Repeat after me: Pen - Tee - Yum)

[Polly Nomial]

I'm devastated. Is there anything I can do for extra credit points?

a n y t h i n g ?

[Mulan]

Polly, you are IN. Green is good.

[Insider]

The suspense is killing me.

[Mulan]

Happy smile!

[Insider]

Oh, no. My odds are getting lower.

[Polly Nomial]

Mine doesn't say red or green!!!!!

[Flora]

look at the 15:24 post
you're green

this is getting scary

[Gandalf]

Names precede color. You are safe, Polly.

But send me your profile to confirm it.

[Mulan]

it is right BEFORE gandalf's name.... yours was green.

[Insider]

WOOHOO! :grin:

[Flora]

whew!

I mean...
Meshuga! So sorry to see you go. I wish we had had more time to get to know each other...

[Maine-iac]

Kudos Mr. Nacho! If the TV Mole 2 were as fun to watch as this, it wouldn't have been cancelled. :tup:

[Anonymous]

I know who the mole is!
I know who the mole is!
Nanny-Nanny-Poo-Poo!

[Mulan]

Actually, he was the only friend I had and I'll miss him. He had such a zest for life, even if I can't figure out how many pets he has, or the number of movies he's seen.

Meshuga, we'll miss you. This one's for you!

[Polly Nomial]

Oh!

Can I do the extra credit thing anyways? *g*

[Mulan]

pipe down elmo!

[Gandalf]

On 2002-01-15 15:40, Polly Nomial wrote:
Oh!

Can I do the extra credit thing anyways? *g*


LOL. (Unless nacho says only CTM is allowed in this thread.)

[Hagbard Celine]

Whooohhoooooo.

I already beat last year's record.

I rule!!!

Then again, the mole makes it through every "quiz."

[Meshuga]

That was quick.

It's been fun.

[Shrek]

At first I thought nacho may take his revenge for Legends by killing me first. The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced he wants me around to dangle as long as possible.

[Polly Nomial]

[I]peeking her little head out of her <strike>mole hill</strike> cubicle........

[Shrek]

No you don't.

[Mulan]

Ha Ha, I KNEW it was **16** BEFORE nacho corrected it!! HA HA HA!

[Flora]

Monday morning I will be in the car returning from Superbowl festivities. Since the challenge seems to include good looking men (where was that player list again?) I would like to participate and cast my vote for Tuesday afternoon.

[Anonymous]

Flora: Are you actually going to the game, or are you going somewhere to watch it?

[Mulan]

I prefer Monday morning, just poke at Flora.

[Shrek]

Well, I guess I'd vote for Tuesday, since it would be terrible to think the mole could miss the game and not work her magic.

[Hagbard Celine]

Wed. 9:45 AM

[Flora]

ODB - you don't know me that well. I would not shell out the kind of bucks the Superbowl requires in order to attend a football game, especially when "our" team lost last week.

I will be at a party a couple fo states away, mostly just chasing my toddler around making sure he doesn't get ahold of any beer.

Mulan - you want the studs to poke at me? :smile:

[Kid Rock]

Since I want to stay in the good graces of the Mole, I would vote for 9:45 AM Wednesday.

[Hagbard Celine]

based on this thread and other communications I have received

You mean the ones inside your head? From your dog?

Smart move KR.

[Big Ed]

Coincidentally, next Tuesday at 15:00 RF time my wife is having an ultrasound, and I'll be at her side. My bad for not chiming in earlier. Looks like you'll have to do without ol' Ed.

[Flora]

we will be minus one stud!

[Flora]

(on a side note - have fun checking out the little one!)

[Hagbard Celine]

Nacho,

I pm'ed you my recognition of the new time. It should be in your inbox as we speak.

[Big Ed]

Thanks mn!

[Mulan]

I see the new time!

[Anonymous]

Mr N- I sent you a private message confirming my understanding of the new time...

[Mulan]

ODB, too late to play the mole, you are OOOUUUUTTTTTTTTT!

[Anonymous]

Nuh-uhhh!

[Gandalf]

Monday it is.

Maybe with Flora absent I will finally be on the winning team. That's a shame; no points when I win.

[Flora]

well, since I am driving back Monday morning and I have all sorts of crap to take care of at work, I intend to be in the office Monday afternoon.

[Gandalf]

On 2002-02-02 08:20, Flora wrote:
well, since I ... have all sorts of crap to take care of at work, I intend to be in the office Monday afternoon.


All kinds of crap to do at work, but taking time out for Mole 2. My kind of priorities!

[Shrek]

Like costing her team victory in the challenge. (Note: Flora's teams are 0-2)

[Insider]

See you later today!

[Gandalf]

On 2002-02-04 08:20, Buzz Lightyear wrote:
Like costing her team victory in the challenge. (Note: Flora's teams are 0-2)

As are Gandalf's, as are Kid Rock's.

Which two of us are tied for last place?

[Mulan]

Bump

mister nacho - monday at 1500 again?

[Big Ed]

I know! You could take old posts from the WC (are there still old posts on the WC?) and we'd have to guess if they were written by Shekky, Gomer, Charlie, or Dreaming. Sounds like fun!

[Mulan]

Alternatively, you could have us write mean-spirited messages and vote if they are mean enough to have been written by Charlie.

[Polly Nomial]

And I take it that this challenge is to take place monday at 15:00?

[Flora]

I didn't read enough of the political threads to do well on Big Ed's version and we all know I would not be good at the one Mulan is suggesting (unless I write what I wanted to say to that broker :smile: )

[Gandalf]

On 2002-02-06 15:43, Flora wrote:
I didn't read enough of the political threads to do well on Big Ed's version and we all know I would not be good at the one Mulan is suggesting (unless I write what I wanted to say to that broker :smile: )

For you to score points, you don't have to do well.

Anyway, why should we care what the challenge is? We haven't managed to be on the winning team yet.

[Insider]

On 2002-02-06 15:53, Gandalf wrote:

Anyway, why should we care what the challenge is? We haven't managed to be on the winning team yet.
[/quote]

Don't think the rest of us haven't noticed.

[Gandalf]

On 2002-02-06 16:53, Insider wrote:

On 2002-02-06 15:53, Gandalf wrote:
Anyway, why should we care what the challenge is? We haven't managed to be on the winning team yet.


Don't think the rest of us haven't noticed.

I figured you all must have. Hagbard sent me his last set of answers. He answered 50% with me as the mole; 50% with Flora. He was rather unlucky to have been executed with 10 right answers, but he was slow reaching that conclusion and paid for it.

Rumor has it Flora's behavior looks so suspicious that even she's answering that she's the mole (if she's answering at all.)

[Mulan]

Well, Hagbard sent ME his last set of answers and they were a combination of Kid Rock and Big Ed. I think this seriously points to one of the ladies as being the mole - maybe Polly Molial OR Mole Insider?

Alternatively, maybe one of our two "older" men are suspect Gandalf the Mole Wizard or Cynical Mole Really.

Hard to know who to trust.....

(P.S. My son is much better, thanks you all for all the PMed good wishes!)

[Gandalf]

"(P.S. My son is much better, thanks you all for all the PMed good wishes!)"

That's good to hear. I didn't want to say anything, but I was worried about plague. There is a rodent vector involved with it, you know.

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-06 23:37, Gandalf wrote: There is a rodent vector involved with it, you know.
Ha Ha, you are just soooo funny... He has not been bitten by any MOLES lately as NONE of you 8 have been to visit...

[Gandalf]

Gandalf: "Hagbard sent me his last set of answers. He answered 50% with me as the mole; 50% with Flora."

Mulan: "Well, Hagbard sent ME his last set of answers and they were a combination of Kid Rock and Big Ed."

My apologies, all. I rechecked my PMs and Mulan is correct. In week two, Hagbard answered 50% Gandalf; 50% Flora. In week three, he answered 50% Kid Rock, 50% Big Ed.

No wonder he survived week 2 and crashed week 3.

[the mole]

On 2002-02-06 14:57, mister nacho wrote:
Indeed. Prepare yourself for the next challenge, which I will entitle: The Tree.

Wonderful. I can't climb trees. Points for sure this week!

[Polly Nomial]

What's this about exchanging quiz answers?...

Especially with someone who has been eliminated?

And even more especially, how can a mole exchange <s>her</s> his or her quiz answers?

[Gandalf]

I didn't see any rule against exchanging quiz answers. It would be grossly improper to exchange answers after someone was eliminated, but the exchanges between Hagbard and me and I suppose between Hagbard and Mulan were before the executions were announced.

Sure, it's a little extra work to construct quiz answers when you don't have to send them to nacho, but sometimes it's nice to see if you can target a particular person for elimination. Nothing personal against Hagbard, more like an ego trip.

[Anonymous]

Our examination of these statements was made in accordance with generally
accepted accounting principles, and in our opinion, the accompanying balance
sheet, statement of income and retained earnings present fairly the financial
position of this company.

Which really means:

We've gone through the figures that management gave us, but you gotta realize
that generally accepted accounting principles leave a hell of a lot of leeway
to dick around with earnings. Plus, this company is paying us a boatload of
money to certify these numbers, and if we don't, they'll find another
independent auditor that will.

[Hagbard Celine]

Nothing personal against Hagbard, more like an ego trip.


:razz:

[Gandalf]

"There is now a one in eight chance that you are trusting the mole."

??? For some reason I believe I can trust all the other players.

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-07 13:24, Gandalf wrote:
"There is now a one in eight chance that you are trusting the mole."

??? For some reason I believe I can trust all the other players.

Hey!! That's my line!!

[Cynical Realist]

Are you saying we can't trust Flora anymore? Here I was actually believing all her stories of having phone reviews during competition and sick kids at home...

And I completely trusted Buzz til he hung me out to dry on that last hand in the Stud game. Then he tries to hold 7-10 in the last hand to throw the competition, and ends up winning. He may be one unlucky S.O.M. (Son of A Mole).

[Flora]

:sad:
nacho says you shouldn't trust me, and I KNOW we all trust everythign nacho has to say, so why don't you just listen to him :sad: :sad: :sad:

[Kid Rock]

...or me

[Shrek]

Trust me...
nacho, I trust you least of all.

[Mulan]

Stare deep into my moley eyes and TRUUUSSTT MEEEEeeeeee........

[Hagbard Celine]

I'll be there, dude.

[Cynical Realist]

So what you're saying is... the rules will take 15 minutes to digest, but the competition will only last 5 minutes...

I get it. Sort of like Contest 2 - where the best strategy was not to show up and accrue less penalty points than the other team.

[Kid Rock]

I have a 4 hour staff meeting scheduled for 10 AM on Monday. I would say it's 50/50 on whether I can play or not.

[Anonymous]

On 2002-02-07 15:35, Mulan wrote:
Stare deep into my moley eyes and TRUUUSSTT MEEEEeeeeee........

Trivia bonus question...besides Kaa the snake in Jungle Book, for what other famous animated character did this vocal actor provide the voice?

[Pseudolus]

Oh, bother.

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-07 16:22, Kid Rock wrote:
I have a 4 hour staff meeting scheduled for 10 AM on Monday. I would say it's 50/50 on whether I can play or not.
Sure you do. LOTS of staff meetings are scheduled at 10 for 4 hours...Totally believable.

[Anonymous]

On 2002-02-07 16:23, Pseudolus wrote:
Oh, bother.

Very clever!

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-07 16:23, Pseudolus wrote:
Oh, bother.
I have a rumbly in my tumly.

[Kid Rock]

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Wen,+Ming-Na

[Mulan]

nacho, why don't you post the rules so we can digest them over the weekend?

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-07 18:37, mister nacho wrote:
I shudder to even think about the decline in productivity that would ensue.

It is for your own good, Mulan. Someday you will thank me.
Ok, I'll just do it now....Thanks, Nacho!!

BTW, what is this defending the fort garbage??

[Cho Da]

Those of us attacking the fort certainly didn't stay up all night (well, maybe Draco did :smile: ). The payers even hung arould and got pissed at me when I was home all day w/o internet due to the snowstorm.

[Gandalf]

On 2002-02-07 18:37, mister nacho wrote:
My goal was to have the game be fun with a limited time commitment. My last challenge went beyond my desired time-frame, so I am giving a short one this time around. But I know what would happen if I announced the rules now... I shudder to even think about the decline in productivity that would ensue.


Yes, but hasn't Flora seemed confused about the rules every week so far. Don't you think it would be sensible to at least show them to her in advance?

Sorry, I forgot, you already do.

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-08 10:20, Gandalf wrote:
Yes, but hasn't Flora seemed confused about the rules every week so far. Don't you think it would be sensible to at least show them to her in advance? I think Polly has seemed a lot more confused than Flora... Besides Polly Molial has a nice ring to it!

[Kid Rock]

I was going to bring up the storming of the fort. Flyer, the Mole 1 champion, was a maniac during that.

[Mulan]

Flyer was amazing. I miss her :sad:
I wish I could have known her - where is she now anyway?? I bet if she were playing now, she would make a great mole!!

[Gandalf]

On 2002-02-08 10:46, Mulan wrote:

On 2002-02-08 10:20, Gandalf wrote:
Yes, but hasn't Flora seemed confused about the rules every week so far. Don't you think it would be sensible to at least show them to her in advance? I think Polly has seemed a lot more confused than Flora... Besides Polly Molial has a nice ring to it!


It may just be an act with Polly. Somehow, she's managed to win 2 out of 3, hasn't she?

Flora, on the other hand, has been so confused that...

NM, perhaps she does understand quite well.

[Hagbard Celine]

Flyer was amazing. I miss her :sad:


Yeah, whatever happened to Flyer? Is she posting under a different name or did she just stop posting?

[the mole]

Flyer. Flyer. It has a familiar ring to it.

I remember now, that was my name when I was airborne rather than underground. I won't be using it again before the game is over, if ever.

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-08 15:36, Hagbard Celine wrote:


Flyer was amazing. I miss her :sad:


Yeah, whatever happened to Flyer? Is she posting under a different name or did she just stop posting?
Was she CAS or SOA?

[Hagbard Celine]

She was on the Water Cooler.

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-08 16:04, Hagbard Celine wrote:
She was on the Water Cooler.
I've never seen her there....

[Anonymous]

On 2002-02-08 16:17, Mulan wrote:
I've never seen her there....

Aaaaah! Mulan, you're loss of faith in God has blinded you even to many of the creatures of this world. Repent now before you are cast into the everlasting fiery pit of hell!

p.s. Thanks for the astroglide...whatcha wearin'?

[Hagbard Celine]

It was a while ago I think, that she stopped posting...

I can't really remember exactly though.

[Gandalf]

On 2002-02-08 16:17, Mulan wrote:

On 2002-02-08 16:04, Hagbard Celine wrote:
She was on the Water Cooler.
I've never seen her there....


You can find some of her old posts by going to http://www.casact.org and searching for "flyer". She doesn't seem to have reregistered under the new software.

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-08 16:40, Gandalf wrote:
You can find some of her old posts by going to http://www.casact.org and searching for "flyer". She doesn't seem to have reregistered under the new software.
Thanks, Gandalf. I wonder if she's changed her name to Polly? Hmmmm....

[Mulan]

Good morning!!

[Gandalf]

OK, Flora, the gloves are coming off this week (yours may be more like furry mittens).

To heck with mole impersonations. To heck with those points I get when my team loses. Gandalf is tired of being trifled with. This week my team wins.

All out. No holds barred. An exemption, if offered, will be declined.

whoooooo

[Flora]

he he he
I see that as a challenge to all who are on Gandalf's team this week to royally screw him over :smile:

I on the other hand will continue trying to win as usual and not pretend that anything is any different for me this week than it has been the past few. Should be interesting to see whether we are on the same team again this week!

[Mulan]

Gandalf and Flora sitting in a tree......

[Pseudolus]

...M-O-L-E-I-N-G...

[Cynical Realist]

Somebody's trying to make Nacho jealous...

[Flora]

:smile:

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-11 13:04, Pseudolus wrote:
...M-O-L-E-I-N-G...
Exactly what I was going for. Thanks, pseudolus.

[the mole]

The game feels cold and lonely without Gandalf doesn't it? But, my pretties, it will get colder and more lonely before it is through. Who will be my next victim?

Big Ed?
Cynical Realist?
Buzz Lightyear?
Mulan?
Kid Rock?
Insider?
Flora?
Polly Nomial?

Tick....tick.....tick....rest easy til Monday.

[Cynical Realist]

On 2002-02-11 13:01, Mulan wrote:
Gandalf and Flora sitting in a tree......


Funny, right after this little ditty was posted, Gandalf was executed? Not so sure Nacho didn't go off in a jealous rage?

Of course on the Noncontestant thread, Gandalf picked himself to be the Mole, after being executed...maybe not the most astute contestant we had. :wink:

[Gandalf]

On 2002-02-13 17:19, Cynical Realist wrote:
Of course on the Noncontestant thread, Gandalf picked himself to be the Mole, after being executed...maybe not the most astute contestant we had. :wink:

Draco told me if I did worst on the first quiz there, I would move back into the main contest. Sort of like shooting the moon.

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-13 19:08, Gandalf wrote:

On 2002-02-13 17:19, Cynical Realist wrote:
Of course on the Noncontestant thread, Gandalf picked himself to be the Mole, after being executed...maybe not the most astute contestant we had. :wink:

Draco told me if I did worst on the first quiz there, I would move back into the main contest. Sort of like shooting the moon.

???

[the mole]

Who should be my valentine?

Big Ed?
Cynical Realist?
Buzz Lightyear?
Mulan?
Kid Rock?
Insider?
Flora?
Polly Nomial?

I better not choose. I don't want you to jump to conclusions about my sex.

I've made one special choice. You'll know Tuesday.

[Cynical Realist]

Mole Woman - we already know what sex you are. You are one Man Hating Mole Woman - all your victims have been male - hardly a coincidence if you ask me.

[General Kenobi (ret.)]

Maybe he's just killing off the competition.

[Mulan]

Once, it was a good bet that the mole was male: 8 males and 4 females started the game. Now it is 50-50 on a random guess basis. Wonder what will happen next week?

[Polly Nomial]

Next week it becomes 62.5 to 37.5.

(That new calulator battery is working out just fine!)

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-14 11:08, Polly Nomial wrote:
Next week it becomes 62.5 to 37.5.

(That new calulator battery is working out just fine!)
Well, yes, Polly Molial....

[Cynical Realist]

On 2002-02-14 11:08, Polly Nomial wrote:
Next week it becomes 62.5 to 37.5.

(That new calulator battery is working out just fine!)


I'm sure your calculator is OK, the problem, as usual, rests w/ the person pressing the buttons. Of course Moles were never known for their math abilities.

[Mulan]

On 2002-02-14 11:12, Cynical Realist wrote:

On 2002-02-14 11:08, Polly Nomial wrote:
Next week it becomes 62.5 to 37.5.

(That new calulator battery is working out just fine!)


I'm sure your calculator is OK, the problem, as usual, rests w/ the person pressing the buttons. Of course Moles were never known for their math abilities.
Are YOU good at math, Cynimole Reality?

[Kid Rock]

I have to say that I have NEVER seen Cynical Realist (alias - Mr. Softolophogus) fly this far below the radar. He must be working on a big yella book.

[Cynical Realist]

Are YOU good at math, Cynimole Reality?

Compared to most of the above-ground dwelling humans, I would be good at math - I am an actuary afterall. But compared to just actuaries...maybe not, I wouldn't still be sitting for exams at age 53 if I was really good at math. :sad:

Flying below the radar screen? How so? I'd be the least effective mole there is, no matter how bad I screw up my team wins (4-0) Baby! Either I have the most points, or as da Mole, I have yet to score.

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[the mole]

Gee, who is this Polly Molial you all keep talking about? Hmm, how low of a profile should I keep. Who should I go for next. HA, HA! Only I know for sure!

[Ex4T]

I :

[Cynical Realist]

On 2002-02-14 13:57, The MoIe wrote:

ok... where do i find that young liz picture ? :wink:


It's on Nacho's computer as wallpaper, just drop him a line, but I'm not sure he'll share it with you.

[Insider]

Same time, same place for the next challenge? I'm getting anxious to see which one of you will be the next to go. :wink:

[Kid Rock]

Did Insider just forget to change her ID for the last posting to "the mole"? hmmmmmmmmm.

[the mole]

No, choice of id was intentional.

[Pseudolus]

Suggested challenge name: "Winter Molympics"

[Kid Rock]

No French judges, please.

[Kid Rock]

As long as the game is not Molthello, anything is OK!

[Pseudolus]

The winner gets a Molybdenum Medal.

[Insider]

Just realized, Monday is a federal holiday. Now besides the fact that I won't need to leave the game to run out and get the mail, I also won't be at work.

I could dial in, but we don't live in the city, so we have a regular old telephone line modem and it is terribly slow. I'm afraid I won't be able to give the same stellar performances that I have turned in in the past.

Mister Nacho, any way we can change the game day to Tuesday?

[Mulan]

I vote for Monday. I have high-speed internet!!

[Insider]

But Mulan, what about our alliance. We're supposed to be working together here.

(Was I not supposed to make that public?) :wink: