DIPLOMACY (R) The Game.

[E. Blackadder]

I'm willing to moderate a game of diplomacy.

We'd need seven players, and a pool of substitutes would be appreciated.

A good copy-editor with a flair for the dramatic (and a basic understanding of the game) could only help.

For the benefit of those unfamiliar to the game, Diplomacy (r) is set in Europe, 1901. Austria-Hungary, England, France, Germany, Italy, Russia, and Turkey vie for control of the continent.

Generally speaking, to win, you must have both friends and enemies. Ideally the friends will be the trusting type, and the enemies will be unsuspecting -- or at least preoccupied.

The rules are simple; the scheming is not!

RULES: You may only be one player; You may not be the supervisor, however indirectly, of another player; You will let me know if you know any of the other players.

Any motions from the floor? Any players??

[Gandalf]

I was given the computer game as a gift 3 months ago. I haven't installed it yet, as it looked like it had quite a learning curve. My brother in law recommends it.

What sort of time commitment would this require? Would there be a need to be on-line at certain specific times?

[Cho Da]

How often would a turn be? Who thinks that this is the game for Flora!

[glenn]

Oh, cool! This is a fabulous game, haven't played it in years.

[urysohn]

The rules are simple; the scheming is not!

RULES: You may only be one player; You may not be the supervisor, however indirectly, of another player; You will let me know if you know any of the other players.

Something tells me there must be more rules than this!

[Macroman]

http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/rulebooks/2000AH4th.pdf

official Avalon Hill rules.

I am parial to D-Day myself, but this looks interesting.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I was given the computer game as a gift 3 months ago. I haven't installed it yet, as it looked like it had quite a learning curve. My brother in law recommends it.

The game or the computer version thereof? I've never played either, but the Amazon reviews of the computer version basically said it was a huge disappointment.

[Gandalf]

I was given the computer game as a gift 3 months ago. I haven't installed it yet, as it looked like it had quite a learning curve. My brother in law recommends it.

The game or the computer version thereof? I've never played either, but the Amazon reviews of the computer version basically said it was a huge disappointment.

Oh. :( I'm sure he was thinking of the game. I didn't realize it also had a board (or paper) version.

[E. Blackadder]

Sorry, those rules are merely the prerequisite for playing Diplomacy on an anonymous forum.

Diplomacy is as brutal a game as exists in the intellectual world, with the possible exceptions of John Nash's So Long, Sucker (http://www.lucs.lu.se/Courses/Spel/Parlor/Sucker.html), politics, and interviewing. I find it not at all ridiculous that a player would threaten another's job security in order to win.

It's that kind of game.

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I recommend two moves per week; one move per week starting 5/1 to the end of exams; and one crisis delay per active player, if announced. Because I'm a softie.

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I'd heard that even the current computer game doesn't adjudicate the moves properly, so there will be some delay, unless I find out otherwise.

[Jonas Grumby]

Two moves a week is pretty quick, but if you can find a group of people who've played before I'm game.

[E. Blackadder]

I won't be dogmatic about the speed. If there's a consensus of one move a week, I'm hip with it.

[Drzy]

All right! Greatest board game ever! Count me in. :)

I bought the computer game, and yes, it was a huge disappointment. The main problem is that was ridiculously easy. Playing on the most difficult setting, with Austria-Hungary, and without doing any diplomacy/alliances with surrounding nations whatsoever, it was still a total breeze to win. The computer practically randomly moves its armies and navies around. :roll:

Are any of you familiar with The Judge? It's a moderated way of playing Diplomacy online... I've done about 10 or so games, lots of fun. Lots of people wanting to play too.

[Avi]

Sounds like a boatload of fun, but between work and exams, I don't think I'll be able to commit the time :(

[Crystal Dragon.]

I would certainly be interested in play, but alas, work and study have rendered me chrono challenged. Would one turn per week be acceptable to the playing field at large?

I heard Avi is smarter than the average bear. Would he accept encouragement or challenge?

[Cho Da]

I'll play, though weekly turns are preferable.

[Macroman]

I take it we would each need to have a copy of the game to play?

[Doctor Infinity]

It's been a while since I've played this or any other Avalon Hill games but it sounds good - count me in.

[E. Blackadder]

I take it we would each need to have a copy of the game to play?

Not to worry: The rules have been posted, courtesy of Avalon Hill and yourself. So all we need is a map or two One from CalTech (ftp://ftp.ugcs.caltech.edu/pub/diplomacy/Maps/ColorMaps/standard.2.GIF); A basic map (http://www.execulink.com/~ravgames2/dipmaps/standard_border_ra.gif) and the same map with national centres in colour (http://www.execulink.com/~ravgames2/dipmaps/standard2_ra.gif); And finally, something for those of you who enjoy topology (http://www.crockford.com/wrrrld/diplomacy.html).

Get some coloured pencils or pens and you're set. Or, if I find the right software, we can do this with totally with GIFs. I'm looking for a decent set-up.

And for the spectators, some tips on strategy (http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/strategy.htm).

[Lucy]

Sounds like fun, but probably a little too rough for me to join in. Can I watch?

[Don Quijote]

Brings back memories, but sadly, the time committment is beyond me (see post count and start date!) My 10 cents for now are on Drzy. Like the game itself, I can change my mind almost anytime.

[Drzy]

Nah, I've played too much. I know opening moves, and I even have a Diplomacy rating. That, combined with my handsome good looks, means I'll get ganged up on for sure. :D

Although, Blackadder, if you'd want to pass the moderating duties on to me and join in the game yourself, I'd be more than happy to do this. All this Diplomacy talk has gotten me back into the Diplomacy spirit.

[E. Blackadder]

We'd have five players whether it were you or I who GM'ed. I count: Drzy; (Pronounced Phred); Doctor Infinity; Cho Da; Macroman (inferred); Crystal Dragon (inferred from 1 move/week offer); Jonas Grumby; Glenn (inferred) ; Oh, wait... That's seven!

OK, if you're still game, send me an email: aefgirt1901@yahoo.com No bonus points if you figure out the derivation of the ID.

In this email tell me your Outpost ID, and list the seven nations, from favorite to not-favorite. I will try to maximize utility in nation assignments.
I'll confirm your message.

Since Glenn is a player, prudence suggests using an off-outpost message system, despite his deserved reputation for honesty and fair play.

Meanwhile, to other interested players, don't give up hope. Fill-ins are always appreciated. To the rest of you, including Lucy, think of this as "Survivor: Europe!"

[Jonas Grumby]

Note that three of those user IDs are mine, and that I fully expect to win!

[Pi Man]

that can't be, because five of them are mine... :D

[Avi]

Well, since the two of you are the same person, it's ok.

[E. Blackadder]

Oopsie. One inferential "yes" (Glenn) turned out to be merely a statement of happiness.

We have six. If Pi Man is five of them, then you would have a 50% chance of winning. :P

[Cho Da]

This looks like a game I need to figure out how to play. Unfortunately, here is probably not the place for me to do it. I think I'll just follow along.Join in! You can be Italy!

[Drzy]

Join in! You can be Italy!
Haha, yeah! Italy is by far the most exciting country to play. :D

[Jonas Grumby]

I knew a guy once who could occasionally win with Italy. No, really...stop laughing.

[E. Blackadder]

Three responses to date. Everyone wants to be Italy. :D

Take your time. This is a serious commitment of time, and the odds of winning are even worse than the odds of passing an exam.

But it's such a fun game!

[Pi Man]

i wanna play, but only if i can be italy!! :D


sorry, can't play this round. driving test coming up, midterms just ended, headed to daytona with mom and dad for spring break, and i just discovered DATING!!!! :D

besides, those rules look like, hard, and stuff... :oops:

[E. Blackadder]

besides, those rules look like, hard, and stuff...Well, the rules for dating are much like the rules for diplomacy :oops:, but the payoff is even better, so we understand.

Up to four. Or in the language everyone wants to make his own, IV.

[Werewolf]

I've played Diplomacy a few times; I even have an old copy of the game. I'm quite lousy at it, though. Despite that fact, I'm up for a game anyway.

Will the necessary communication among players occur with RF private messages or over e-mail?

[E. Blackadder]

You may use any means of communication known to man, from smoke signals to quantum-cryptographicly-protected landlines.

Despite his protestations, I thought it best to use email when I thought Glenn was a participant. Perhaps PMs would be more convenient at this stage.

One disadvantage of PMs. suppose someone decides to choke up your PM box at a crucial time... It's not paranoia, it's diplomacy.

We're up to 5 declared players.

[Don Quijote]

I assume press releases will be posted here so the world can follow along, and try to reinterpret the lies.... what fun Paddyboy and Tupac would have.

[E. Blackadder]

They might even enjoy playing the game. I couldn't blame them if they were worried about me being the humble moderator.

[Cho Da]

While we wait for the last two players, are there any "house" rules we should know about?
Will you be looking for conditional retreats along with the movement orders or will there be a chance for negotiation between movement and retreat phases?
Similar question for building phase?
I am assuming we are using the 2000 (4th ed) rule book?
Must convoy paths be completely specified?
(for example: A Mar-Tun, F LYO C A Mar-Tun, F WME C A Mar-Tun, F TYN C A Mar-Tun note redundant path using F TYN or F WME. If either TYN or WME is dislodged, does the convoy still suceed via the other?)
Other rules?

[E. Blackadder]

If we have one or more inexperienced players, then my thinking is: 2000 rules, dislodged-unit orders not integrated with normal turns, and separate build orders.

The game would go faster if dislodgments and builds were pre-specified, but that would add more complexity to the mechanics of the game.

Convoyed units must merely list that they are being convoyed, (and even that's not necessary if the only way for the unit to complete its move is via convoy), and the convoying units must merely list that they are convoying, and the beginning and end points of the convoyed unit.
A London to Sweden implies a convoy. A London to Yorkshire will not be assumed to be a convoy unless specified.

I'm also willing to take "standing orders" such as, "If I fail to specify a retreat, move the unit randomly" and "If I fail to specify all the builds to which I'm entitled, then build these in order to the extent possible: a Fleet in Edinburgh, an army in Liverpool, and a fleet in London."

I'm not into setting traps for the unwary. That's a job for the seven players.

And of course, I'll accept (and normally use) the standard TLAs for the locations.

As always, it's your game. I'm just facilitating it. If I'm being an ass, or ruining the gaming experience, let me know.

[Cho Da]

Will proxies be allowed?
(Germany: A Mun to be ordered by Austria 1902 only. If no order received: A Mun-Tyr)

[Hanse]

We're up to 5 declared players.
Make that 6. Though I may make like the French - retreat to the sea and hope the US of A saves my butt. :P

[E. Blackadder]

Ahh, the eternal quest for complications...

If player x tells me that player y may move one or more of player x's pieces, then I'll accept it. But I won't tell player y of this fact, nor will I tell player y if player x rescinds this "proxy."

And I'm planning to rule that if player y orders player x's pieces, then rule 12: "self-dislodgement" applies, for both the proxy and the owner. :P

In my new spirit of serving the customer first, I'll entertain a motion for random selection of countries.

We have 5 players to date Cho Da; Drzy; Macroman; Hanse; and Werewolf, unless PI Man is playing, in which case we have 10 players.

[Jonas Grumby]

We have 5 players to date Cho Da; Drzy; Macroman; Hanse; and Werewolf, unless PI Man is playing, in which case we have 10 players.

Hey, what happened to me?? I even sent my preferences!

Game hasn't even started and I've already lost...

[E. Blackadder]

Hey, what happened to me?? I even sent my preferences!
But to whom? To whom??
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Once I was playing Germany, and England misdirected to me his proposal to France.

I tried to interest France with this information. He didn't care. Only later did I realize I should have tried to interest England with this evidence of French duplicity...

[Jonas Grumby]

I dunno, I just cut-and-pasted the above address. I tried again, lemme know if you didn't get it.




Message Sent

Sent to: <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/nt/tr14x15_1.gif>
[Send an Instant Message] aefgirt1901@yahoo.com

[E. Blackadder]

We have seven!

We've been joined by Doctor Infinity; and Jonas Grumby

Amazingly every single person submitted exactly the same preference list... I'll run this through my computer tomorrow morning.

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Ahhhh! It's springtime in Europe. Total peace reigns as we begin the 20th century in the centre of the civilized world. One practically hears the first several bars of the William Tell overture as one walks the streets of Paris, London, Moscow, Ankara, Rome, Berlin, Vienna (or is it Budapest)... Even William Randolph Hearst couldn't find anything to write about -- if he stuck to the facts!

What could possibly go wrong? :wink:

[Drzy]

Amazingly every single person had exactly the same preference list...
Seriously??? Whoa! There's gotta be some incredible odds against that. It's not that clear-cut what the best and/or most fun countries to play are in order of 1 to 7.

I'm all for the idea of randomizing who plays what country.

[E. Blackadder]

Just kidding, Drzy.

[Jonas Grumby]

Amazingly, however, 6 of 7 listed the same country as last. Woe betide the 7th player...



http://thumbs.ebay.com/pict/3113217398.jpg

[Gandalf]

Amazingly every single person submitted exactly the same preference list... I'll run this through my computer tomorrow morning.
It is less amazing when you realize that 5 of the 7 are Pi Man.

[E. Blackadder]

The optimum selection was more challenging than I originally expected. Three trial allocations were optimal, with one player getting 3rd choice; two players getting 2nd choice, and four players getting 1st choice.

Three of the players were fixed; two other players had the same choice in two of the three trial allocations, and one of the trial allocations was the intersection therof. So that became the final allocation.

In alphabetical order by country name: Austria - Macroman; England - Drzy; France - Hanse; Germany - Cho Da; Italy - Werewolf; Russia - Doctor Infinity; and Turkey - Jonas Grumby.

Gentleman, start your hobnobbing!

First deadline: February 19th by 7:30 PST. send your moves to my RO inbox, unless you don't trust Glenn!

[Cho Da]

First deadline: February 19th by 7:30 PST. send your moves to my RO inbox, unless you don't trust Glenn!
am or pm?

[E. Blackadder]

7:30 AM is an uncivilized hour, unfit for adjudication. So let's make that 7:30 PM... that's AD 2003, BTW.

[Avi]

Is there any way for us outsiders to interfere with <cough, cough> I mean follow the action?

[E. Blackadder]

Sure! You could become a pundit; you could offer to post (or just make up) press releases and/or editorials; you could be one or more of the players incognito, or you could bring one or more of the players up on war crimes charges.

Try doing that in Survivor Jeopardy!

[Don Quijote]

I'm quite lousy at it, though. Despite that fact, I'm up for a game anyway.

This is just getting in character, right? Good choice of country to keep up the impression.

Free Pundit advice: Macroman, trust ChoDa, he´ll lead you all the way to the promised land of second place.

[E. Blackadder]

and with that, Europe goes from condition Green to Blue!

[r. mutt]

So what happens now in this game? Are the players messaging back and forth, conniving and scheming? I looked at the rules, they seem incredibly simple. Can a game really work without dice?

[Doctor Infinity]

You catch on quickly, Yellow Dog, although it's a bit early for the conniving and scheming :wink:

[E. Blackadder]

Yup. It'd be great if we could give y'all a play-by-play of the scheming, but the word "Heisenberg" would then apply.

[Avi]

It's the Principle of the matter.

[Avi]

Where can I find a Diplomacy^® map of Europe?
We troublemakers spectators need a frame of reference, you know.

[E. Blackadder]

Go to the "address" and make the last bit start=17. Hit enter. You'll find links for three maps.

If you need the rules, make the last bit start=5. hit enter, there's a link.

If you need a double decaf non-fat latte, make sure 42 isn't behind you (http://www.actuary.ca/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=68&start=12). He gets really irked when people do this.

[r. mutt]

I'm going to try to follow too. In the meantime, one more question: I assume all the countries have roughly equal odds of winning? It was interesting that four players got their first choices, that assumes a varied opinion as to the best country. And is Italy all that bad, or is that just a joke about the country itself?

I know, lots of questions. But I'm a curious yellow dog.

[Jonas Grumby]

I'm going to try to follow too. In the meantime, one more question: I assume all the countries have roughly equal odds of winning? It was interesting that four players got their first choices, that assumes a varied opinion as to the best country. And is Italy all that bad, or is that just a joke about the country itself?

I know, lots of questions. But I'm a curious yellow dog.

Good doggy. I found a site that claimed the following:

In tournament play, the rankings are usually France and England at the top with Turkey close behind, Germany and Russia in the middle, Austria next, and last and certainly least is Italy. Interestingly enough, the ranks shift in postal play. Depending on the rating system, France, England and Russia are usually on top, Germany and Turkey are in the middle, Austria is close, and Italy is nowhere.

But I'm not sure what they mean by a 'rating system', there may be some weird scoring.

[Drzy]

In tournament play, the rankings are usually France and England at the top...... Depending on the rating system, France, England and Russia are usually on to
Woohoo! That means I'm guaranteed to win! 8)

The theory is that since the game is so diplomacy based, all seven countries should be equal... meaning if Country X's position sucks but Country Y's is good, people would be more likely to attack Country X. It doesn't work that way though, since some countries are just much easier to attack than others.

In short, the corner countries (England and Turkey) are easiest to defend, while countries in the middle (Austria-Hungary and Germany) are prone to being attacked. Italy is tucked away in the south, and while it's not very easy to take over, due to a lack of nearby supply centers it's also very hard to get anything going. Russia starts with one more unit than every other country, but this is compensated by the large territory it's spread out over. That leaves France, which is average or above-average in its defensive and offensive positions. Anyway, that's all just my opinion. :duh:

[E. Blackadder]

Yo, players!

I hope y'all are talking to each other. If there's anything I should note about apparent drop-outs & such, do PM me. Remember, I'm here to facilitate.

You don't have to tell me about how you got stabbed. That part I can figure out.

I expect you and each of you to come back either needing to wash your hands -- or in a box!

[Drzy]

There's lots of talking going on. It's too bad you can't somehow see it, I bet it'd be pretty interesting to see how people are playing their hands.

[Macroman]

The optimum selection was more challenging than I originally expected. Three trial allocations were optimal, with one player getting 3rd choice; two players getting 2nd choice, and four players getting 1st choice.

Three of the players were fixed; two other players had the same choice in two of the three trial allocations, and one of the trial allocations was the intersection therof. So that became the final allocation.

In alphabetical order by country name: Austria - Macroman; England - Drzy; France - Hanse; Germany - Cho Da; Italy - Werewolf; Russia - Doctor Infinity; and Turkey - Jonas Grumby.

And I thought I was wierd for putting them 6th.

Gentleman, start your hobnobbing!

First deadline: February 19th by 7:30 PST. send your moves to my RO inbox, unless you don't trust Glenn!

So, Werewolf opted Italy third?

[E. Blackadder]

Playing Italy well takes a delicate touch. Not everyone has the nads to attempt it.

[Macroman]

I'm going to try to follow too. In the meantime, one more question: I assume all the countries have roughly equal odds of winning? It was interesting that four players got their first choices, that assumes a varied opinion as to the best country. And is Italy all that bad, or is that just a joke about the country itself?

I know, lots of questions. But I'm a curious yellow dog.

I think that means that some of us are either adventerous or ignorant. Some of us are even both.

[E. Blackadder]

To the players:

I'm working on a way to display the current map, on the cheap, with different colours for each nation's armed forces and for land, sea, navigable water, and the impassible area.

Should I make accommodations for colour blindness, perhaps with different fonts?

If so, please PM me.

[Oracle]

For those of us on the sidelines, will there be some form of newspaper coverage?

[E. Blackadder]

You (and everyone else) are welcome to designate yourself as a reporter (or editor) and to join the party!

Facts, purported facts, editorials, specluation, interviews, slander, dirt, comics, puff pieces, advertisements, subscriptions. All this is welcome while we wait... and wait... and wait... and....

[Jonas Grumby]

To the players:

I'm working on a way to display the current map, on the cheap, with different colours for each nation's armed forces and for land, sea, navigable water, and the impassible area.

Should I make accommodations for colour blindness, perhaps with different fonts?

If so, please PM me.

Did you get the map I sent? Seems like all the work was done for you.

[Hanse]

You (and everyone else) are welcome to designate yourself as a reporter (or editor) and to join the party!

Facts, purported facts, editorials, specluation, interviews, slander, dirt, comics, puff pieces, advertisements, subscriptions. All this is welcome while we wait... and wait... and wait... and....

Rumour has it there is a "deep throat" type leak in my staff, if anyone wishes to persue it. I won't promise that I tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth to my executive staff though :P

[E. Blackadder]

Amazingly I did. I'll czech it out.

[42]

All this is welcome while we wait... and wait... and wait... and....This somehow reminded me of the Monty Python skit that was a parody of the Olympics:

Competitors are ready to enter the pool. The gun sounds, and they dive in. The announcer explains that that gun signals the beginning of the 300 meter race for non-swimmers. Then a very long pause, as none of the swimmers return to the surface. Finally followed by: "We'll return for further coverage when they start fishing out the corpses." :crazy:


I'm sorry to interrupt ... you were waiting for something ...

[Werewolf]

So, Werewolf opted Italy third?

The best way to explain me getting Italy is like this old cartoon... I think it was a Porky Pig cartoon.

Porky's in uniform, standing in line with a number of soldiers, and the commanding officer asks for a volunteer for a mission to step forward. Everyone else takes a step back.

That's what I get for not stating a strong preference.

[E. Blackadder]

The dreaded start position (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=3), for those of you who came in late...

Rectangles are fleets, squares are armies.

Thanks to Jonas (for the Powerpoint image);Glenn (for the webspace); my work (for Powerpoint 2000 -- 1997 didn't cut it); and me (for working at this, so very, very hard.

I've got one set of moves in. For each player, last set submitted rules. Inbox, please.

[Drzy]

I've got one set of moves in. For each player, last set submitted rules. Inbox, please.
Hurry up, ya slackers! :wink:

[Cho Da]

The dreaded start position (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&op=Print), for those of you who came in late...

Rectangles are fleets, squares are armies.

Thanks to Jonas (for the Powerpoint image);Glenn (for the webspace); my work (for Powerpoint 2000 -- 1997 didn't cut it); and me (for working at this, so very, very hard.

I've got one set of moves in. For each player, last set submitted rules. Inbox, please.Does EB's link work for anyone else? It doesn't show anything to me from either IE6 or Mozilla.

[Avi]

Me neither.

[E. Blackadder]

Try it now. It did -- really did work for me when I first placed it. :oops:

[Avi]

Better. :)

[Cho Da]

Now I get a php fatal error:
Fatal error: The script tried to execute a method or access a property of an incomplete object. Please ensure that the class definition mainpage of the object you are trying to operate on was loaded _before_ the session was started in /home/insurancesquared/www.actsci.com/mod/userpage/userpage_functions.php on line 534

[Cho Da]

Starting position:

http://home.attbi.com/~cho_da/Standard.jpg

[Doctor Infinity]

Nice job on the maps to both Cho Da and Jonas Grumby!!!

[E. Blackadder]

http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=3

What do you use, CD?

[Avi]

I'd like to remind all players to check CD's map very carefully You never know.......

[Cho Da]

Ah, I can see the one from EB's link now. I used Realpolitik (http://realpolitik.sourceforge.net/). I find it very helpful in working out tactics. Doesn't help much in getting the other powers to reply to PMs, though.

[Cho Da]

It can even show how orders might be resolved.
(These orders were totally made up. They bear no resemblance to any known orders, living or dead.)
http://home.attbi.com/~cho_da/S1901Possibility.jpg

[Macroman]

Where is the French fleet going?

[Cho Da]

In the picture it was ordered: F Bre-Mid (MAO). I have no public information as to where Hanse will actually order it.

[Hanse]

Where is the French fleet going?
Art (games) imitate life. It's running for American protection. :P

[Drzy]

Special note to Dr. Infinity: That non-real move that sends A Moscow --> St. Petersburg would make for a none-too-happy England! :D

[Jonas Grumby]

I had a moment of panic when I saw someone had submitted orders, thinking I'd confused the 19th with the 17th and I was already late. :roll: Of course, that probably wouldn't have been the first time a country started PB(E)M Diplomacy with a DNM... in fact, I think I've done that!

Cho Da's map is pretty cool, though names would help. I also note without comment that Panasonic Youth would find my first move totally believable.

[Jonas Grumby]

Special note to Dr. Infinity: That non-real move that sends A Moscow --> St. Petersburg would make for a none-too-happy England! :D

<Insert sound of rattling sabre here>

[E. Blackadder]

Players: You're welcome.

Neither offers of steaks, of exotic vacations, nor threats of vengence will sway me from offering the finest Diplomacy adjudication services known to the discerning players of this fine board game.

Fortunately none of you have offered me phone #s of the choicer of the RF chicks, so my resolve hasn't really been tested.

[Cho Da]

Realpolitik doesn't do the names very well:
http://home.attbi.com/~cho_da/RF.jpg

[E. Blackadder]

Six players have submitted move sets. I will not adjudicate until after the deadline, so no rush.

This is for informational purposes only. Unlike most net diplomacy games...

I will tolerate occasional pre-explained lateness. We're all professionals, and deadlines happen. So do lives. A one-sentence note will suffice.

[Gandalf]

Reminder: the deadline for Survivor Jeopardy answers is midnight, Feb 20.

I will not post answers until after the deadline (unless all known players have answered), so no rush. This is for informational purposes only.

[urysohn]

Should this be exciting from a spectator point of view, or is this really one of those things you need to be either playing or staying away from? Cause so far golf seems more exciting to watch (no, that wasn't a compliment to either golf or this game). Don't get me wrong -- Survivor Jeopardy was really dull after getting bumped out at the beginning too.
I'm just wondering if there is exciting stuff happening if I knew more about Diplomacy.

[E. Blackadder]

David Bronstein, who contended for the world chess championship, once took 50 minutes of thought to make his first move as white.

I imagine that was not exciting for the spectators.

In short, nothing's happened yet from your POV. No clue about who's stabbing whom, no player press releases. No overt declarations of war.

I'm a little disappointed.

[Drzy]

I declare war on Switzerland!

[4sigma]

In the interest of livening up the game for the spectators, I will volunteer to publish the Geneva Gazette. I anticipate publishing this biannually (twice per game year) shortly (24-48 hours in real life) after troop movements are announced.

Players, feel free to PM me any official government press releases, i.e. alliances, declarations of war, accusations of betrayals, puff-pieces on your peaceful nature, etc.

In the spirit of true journalism, if I do not receive a formal press release from you, I will attempt to divine your motivations based on your troop movements or what other people are saying about you.

[Werewolf]

David Bronstein, who contended for the world chess championship, once took 50 minutes of thought to make his first move as white.

:o

Now come on, the whole of commonly accepted chess openings begin with c4, d4, e4, f4, and Nf3, right? Is it that hard to choose one of those five moves?

[E. Blackadder]

I'd say 1. f4 is rare.

[Werewolf]

I'd say 1. f4 is rare.

Of course. I didn't specify good opening moves.

[Macroman]

1. g3 is more common than 1. f4

Just about every move has been tried for black's first move.

[Drzy]

I'd say 1. f4 is rare.
Of course. I didn't specify good opening moves.
Hey now! f4 is what I use most... you'd be amazed at how many aren't prepared for the Bird-Larsen attack. 8)

[E. Blackadder]

ENGLAND
Fleet London --> English Channel
Fleet Edinburgh --> North Sea
Army Liverpool --> Wales

GERMANY
F Kie-Den
A Ber-Kie
A Mun-Bur

AUSTRIA
A VIE-GAL
A BUD-SER
F TRI-hold

ITALY
A Rome-Venice
A Venice-Piedmont
F Naples-Ionian Sea

FRANCE
F Bre-Pic,
A Mar-Spa,
A Par Hold

TURKEY
A Const --> Bulg
F Ank --> Black Sea
A Smyr --> Const

RUSSIA
F StP SC - Bot
A Mos - Ukr
A War - Gal
F Sev - Rum

For the moment, it looks like all moves other than the two into Galicia succeed, but I'll check little things like whether anyone tried to substitute units & such.

[Drzy]

Wow, France sure got smacked. Sorry Hanse... looks like we all ganged up on the newbie. :(

[Cho Da]

Ich denke, daß die Armee in Paris Käse zuviel genießt.

[Avi]

http://www.fannymasoncheese.com/cheese.jpg

[E. Blackadder]

The new map is up (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=4)!

[E. Blackadder]

war breaks out!
German army takes holiday in France; overcharged by hoteliers.
"The food is terrible; and the portions are so small!"

[Hanse]

We would declare war on those who believe eau d'weewee is a fine drink, however, we believe that war is not the answer.

[4sigma]

Geneva Gazette, May 1901.

GERMANS PREFER FRENCH WINES

A contingent of Germans were seen earlier this month travelling through the scenic French wine country. Requests to the German government to clarify their intentions were not immediately returned for comment.

A survey of French citizens in the region found that 18% believe the German action is an act of war, while 36% welcomed the Germans and were preparing to help them stock up on Chardonnay and Bordeaux in preparation for possible long marches and sieges in the future. An additional 41% were undecided. 7% were from Paris and were too busy enjoying their cheese to respond.

King Hanse of France has asked the visiting German army “to kindly avoid damaging the vineyards in this most important commercial area.”

LODGING SHORTAGE IN GALICIA

Hotels in scenic Galicia reported unprecedented requests for reservations from local Viennese as well as from Russian tourists this winter. Mr. Eisendorf of the Galician Innkeeper’s association apologized profusely to any disrupted visitors. He said that he hoped that the Viennese might try and visit again soon, while the Russians might prefer to find an alternate destination in the picturesque Ural mountains.

[Doctor Infinity]

Apparently, the Turkish fleet has had a navigational failure as they should never chart a course for the Black Sea. Mother Russia will forgive this indiscretion this time provided the fleet finds their way to their more familiar shores of Ankara or Constantinople.

Tsar Infinity

[Cho Da]

Kaiser Carnac wasn't too far off in his predicitions.
See: Orders Map (http://www.actuary.ca/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=10103&start=99)

[Jonas Grumby]

http://www.fotw.ca/images/tr.gif

Dateline CONSTANTINOPLE, TURKEY. Press Release, Spring 1901.

We greet you on behalf of the Divine Caliph and his Wives of Wishful Thinking, adip, Maxine and mona. We wish to address two items.

1. Due to a failure in our GPS (Galleon Positioning Servants), a fleet seeking the Sea of Marmara inadvertently strayed into a different body of water. While such an error is unheard of and should be punished, we will leave without having to be requested to do so by our gentle northern infidel friends.

2. Knowing full well the etymology of the word 'bugger', we visited our neighboring country with great interest. It appears, however, that we must have been thinking of Greece.

We wish peace and health upon you,

The Caliph and his Wives

[Moderator2]

[in my best deep throat imitation]words on the street:

Russia covets a warm water port, has made peace with Germany, allowing it to focus attention on Turkey.

Germany has made alliance with France to take England.

France has made alliance with England to cut any German support.

England and Italy have agreed to make France fight 2 front war.

Fashion hit in Italy by 1904 will be the fez.

Austria? Who's Austria? Do you mean Australia?
[/deep throat]

[E. Blackadder]

Fall, 1901 moves are due by 19:30 PST on February 26, AD 2003.

But if I happen to be asleep then, by the time I get up and find some free time at work...

[Jonas Grumby]

Anybody interested in going to 5 or 6 day spacing after that? Subject to the availability and interest of our very wonderful facilitator, of course.

[Drzy]

I'm for that. The week spacing seemed long even on the first turn, and that's where the most diplomacy traditionally takes place.

[Doctor Infinity]

I'm all for speeding up the timing between moves as well.

[Macroman]

I'll agree to a 5 turn or twice a week if that meets with everybody's approval.

[E. Blackadder]

OK, if everyone includes a note "plz speed up game" with 2nd move PM, then we'll do it. If you want to speed up the game, tell me how fast you'd like to see this. Upper limits, lower limits, both... your call.

All responses on question of speeding up game will be confidential. I hate being honest, but that's the function of moderation.

Communications written on this forum (except for the game links and hard-hitting analysis) are for spectators and carry no weight.

[4sigma]

Geneva Gazette, August 1901

DEEP THROAT OR WHOOPING COUGH?

Dateline LONDON

King Drzy today issued a vigorous denial of Deep Throat’s allegation that England and Italy have agreed to attack France on opposite fronts. He affirmed that England “has not declared war on any surrounding countries and has eyes only for neutral supply centers.” He did confirm friendly relations with Italy, but in the context of England’s “deepest respect and admiration for all the major powers, with the obvious exception of those d*mn, dirty Canadians.”

Inquiries to Italy on the subject seeking comment, however, were not immediately returned. The question arises whether Italy is secretly harboring hostile intentions against France that they are unwilling to deny, or whether they are simply too busy arranging fez imports.

Tsar Infinity likewise denies Deep Throat’s allegation of alliance with Germany. Instead, excellent Russian intelligence work is credited with divining the intended movement of German forces. Superior Russian intelligence reportedly also finds the errant Turkish fleet to be as treacherous as it is misguided, and warns that it will be “a scorching hot day in Siberia” before said fleet ever docks in any Russian port.


AUSTRIAN GOVERNMENT VANISHES!

Dateline VIENNA

In an extraordinary coup, the entire government of Austria is missing, and may in fact not have existed for several months. Acting on a tip from Deep Throat, investigative journalists from the Geneva Gazette were able to enter the Schoenbrunn palace by posing as caterers. They found that the entire royal family had vanished without a trace. The last witness to have seen them was a Herr Wilhelm Von Dittersdorf, an assistant pastry chef, who says that they were last seen on August 30, 1901 after hastily concluding dessert following the evening meal.

Knowledgeable Austrians speculate that the royal family may simply have gone to a particularly lively harvest festival, and it is not unusual to spend some weeks or even months sobering up afterwards. However, reports persist that they were simply tired of “the whole leadership thing” and have finally executed a plan to go live out the remainder of their lives as Bohemian shepherds.

A senior source within the palace food service noted that local military commanders have been attempting to cover up this absence of leadership by making random troop movements and hoping that these might appear coordinated to external analysts.



GERMANY APOLOGIZES FOR “MISCOMMUNICATION”

Dateline BERLIN

In late-breaking news, Berlin issued an apology for “an unfortunate miscommunication” which caused their army to unwittingly march upon French soil. High-level German commanders claim that the Parisian Army under the command of an “Oberstleutnant Käseaffe” inexplicably failed to march toward Burgundy, which therefore allowed the “Münchener irregulars” unforeseen access to the vineyards. Supporting evidence of these entangled communications is that the Brest fleet seemed to be “similarly misdirected” and failed to sail into the English Channel, allowing curiously unopposed occupation by the English.

Kaiser Cho Da expressed his sincere hope that the French command feels better soon and is enjoying its Spanish holiday. Tsar Infinity of Russia likewise sends his sympathies, and has offered to send King Hanse 3 cases of Stoli for the loss of any wine-making capacity.

[Moderator2]

No PMs to Mod2.

What the heck is going on??

[Drzy]

I'm keeping sort of a running diary of things, so once I go down in flames, everyone can see what I did wrong. :)

[Hanse]

I'm keeping sort of a running diary of things, so once I go down in flames, everyone can see what I did wrong. :)
Funny, I'm keeping sort of a running diary of things, so once I go down in flames, everyone can see what you did wrong. :P

[Jonas Grumby]

I'm keeping sort of a running diary of things, so once I go down in flames, everyone can see what I did wrong. :)
Funny, I'm keeping sort of a running diary of things, so once I go down in flames, everyone can see what you did wrong. :P

Brave words from a Frenchman!

[Moderator2]

Hey, I wanted to let you know that your "Deep Throat" post was a huge success. I think your points had more truth in them than some of the players would care to admit. Countries were falling all over themselves issuing official denials.

I wanted to encourage you to post your "Deep Throat" insights, as it will make for a very lively discussion on the board. So far the players are mostly sending out fluff pieces on their past movements.

Ah, flattery. Anybody else want to offer me cold, hard cash? :o

[Werewolf]

Hey, I wanted to let you know that your "Deep Throat" post was a huge success. I think your points had more truth in them than some of the players would care to admit. Countries were falling all over themselves issuing official denials.

I wanted to encourage you to post your "Deep Throat" insights, as it will make for a very lively discussion on the board. So far the players are mostly sending out fluff pieces on their past movements.

Ah, flattery. Anybody else want to offer me cold, hard cash? :o

Cold, hard cash? I guess I could leave some coins outside in the freezing weather. Would that suffice?

And about those Deep Throat points having more truth to them than we want to admit... let me come up with a generic Deep Throat post that can be used every turn this game.

All Nations Secretly Have Only Their Own Interests At Heart

That should do nicely.

[E. Blackadder]

at heart, yes; at head, no.

[Drzy]

All Nations Secretly Have Only Their Own Interests At Heart
Hmph! See if I ever ally with you! I thought your only interest was to help me get 18 supply centers. :wink:

[glenn]

nm.

[Cho Da]

nmIf this is true, then the game is over.

[E. Blackadder]

Where's my tea shirt? (as befits one of perfidious albion.)

[Oracle]

Hmmm. Both of them edited out the message about the Diplomacy player(s) who declined another t-shirt.

Glenn = Cho Da. Pass it on.

[glenn]

Well, consider my lesson learned. The webmaster shall not be a wiseass about poster's information. :duh:

I don't reveal information about posters. If I mention info about posters (like two posters being the same person), your bull(*&% detectors should be in the red. :oops:

[Jonas Grumby]

I step away for a moment and all nm breaks loose. Darn.

[Jonas Grumby]

I'd say 1. f4 is rare.
Of course. I didn't specify good opening moves.
Hey now! f4 is what I use most... you'd be amazed at how many aren't prepared for the Bird-Larsen attack. 8)

I would actually expect you to use 1. c4 the most...being English and all.

[Maine-iac]

Well, consider my lesson learned. The webmaster shall not be a wiseass about poster's information. :duh:

I don't reveal information about posters. If I mention info about posters (like two posters being the same person), your bull(*&% detectors should be in the red. :oops:

Gee, I thought it was pretty funny, Glenn. . .

However, there is NOTHING that can be posted on this board that someone won't believe.

Did I ever mention that I'm a dead ringer for Cindy Crawford?

[Avi]

Pssst.

Glenn = Glenn

[Moderator2]

However, there is NOTHING that can be posted on this board that someone won't believe.

Did I ever mention that I'm a dead ringer for Cindy Crawford?

Hi, Maine-iac. :wave: How you doing?

[Triweasel]

However, there is NOTHING that can be posted on this board that someone won't believe.

Did I ever mention that I'm a dead ringer for Cindy Crawford?

Hi, Maine-iac. :wave: How you doing?

Careful, you're practically begging for Pi-Man to show up...

[Avi]

Pi Man Standard Response:

ATGTF

[Drzy]

Hey now! f4 is what I use most... you'd be amazed at how many aren't prepared for the Bird-Larsen attack. 8)

I would actually expect you to use 1. c4 the most...being English and all.
c4 is a somewhat distant second. Damn those boring 1. e4 and 2. d4 moves!

P.S. It's gotta be 4sigma = somebody...... but who??

[4sigma]

4sigma = 95%ConfidenceInterval. Pass it on.

P.S. My 100th post!

[E. Blackadder]

well, sure -- if you're "normal" and self-centred. Welcome to the ranks of the three-figured.

[E. Blackadder]

I think we're waiting on a preliminary move to become final. The map is ready to upload.

[Drzy]

Tell us tell us tell us!

[E. Blackadder]

I'm not able to post the map just now, but I can post the moves and results, to wit:

Germany

F Den Hold (Successful)
A Kie-Hol (Successful)
A Bur-Gas (Unsuccessful: bounced with French A Par – Gas)

Austria

A VIE-GAL (Unsuccessful against supported opposition force).
A SER S A BUL-RUMANIA (A Bul did not go to Rumania))
F TRI-hold (Successful)

Russia

A War-Gal (Successful)
A Ukr S A War-Gal (Successful)
F Rum Holds (Successful)
F Bot-Swe (Successful)

France

F Pic-Bre (Succesful)
A Par-Gas (bounced with German A Bur – Gas)
A Spn Hold (Successful)

Italy

A Piedmont-Marseilles (Successful)
A Venice-Trieste (Unsuccessful against occupying force)
F Ionian Sea-Tunisia (Successful)

Turkey

A Bulg --> Greece (Successful)
A Con --> Bulg (Successful)
F BLA --> Con (Successful)

England

Fleet North Sea --> Norway (Successful)
Fleet English Channel --> Mid-Atlantic Ocean (Successful)
Army Wales --> Yorkshire (Successful)

Allowable Builds.

Germany: 2
All home supply centres open. Can’t put a fleet in Munich.

Austria: 1
By force majure, it’s in Budapest and therefore, an army. But reply anyway, since it is somehow conceivable in an alternate universe that you wouldn't want to build it.

Russia: 2
All home supply centres open. If a fleet in St. Pete, specify coast. No fleet in Warsaw or Moscow.

France: 0

Italy: 2
One in Rome, one in Naples. Specify army or fleet in each.

Turkey: 2
One in Ankara, one in Smyrna. Specify army or fleet in each

England: 1
All home supply centres open. Specify an army or fleet.

Remaining neutral centers: Portugal, Belgium.

Submit your builds within 24 hours. Tell me what you wish to build, and where (In your original home country supply centres)

Don't converse about this. Honor system applies.

5 players asked for a faster game. A sixth suggested a way to get a faster game without actually forcing it, and the seventh was silent on the topic.

In the absence of objection we will go to 3 moves in 2 weeks, on a Monday-Friday-Wednesday system.

Since I'm scrupulously neutral, I will keep my opinions about the UTTER IMBECILITY of NOT ABSORBING BELGIUM to myself. Belgium was practlcally jumping up and down screaming "He-LLO. I'm defenseless here. Free unit for anyone who has a brain. No waiting!

Other isightful comments omitted as it's past my bed time, and since they refer to strategy. And especially since they aren't nearly as funny (to me) as what didn't happen in Belgium!

[EDITED TO ADD ACTUAL PLAYER COUNTS ON FASTER GAME QUESTION]

[Werewolf]

Hey now! f4 is what I use most... you'd be amazed at how many aren't prepared for the Bird-Larsen attack. 8)

I would actually expect you to use 1. c4 the most...being English and all.

Hey, I've always liked the English Opening. Although, in the interest of patriotism, I should start using the Giucco Piano. :D

Re Lupo-Mannaro III
Italy

[E. Blackadder]

The English is just the Sicilian with a move in hand...

[4sigma]

Geneva Gazette, October 1901

BELGIAN RESISTANCE REBUFFS ALL INVADERS

French, German, and English forces at a loss to explain misdirection

Dateline FLANDERS

Belgian resistance forces today celebrated a spectacular triumph in turning back the combined forces of the major powers of Germany, France, and England. Belgian rebel commander Ozdimir Vandervelten attributed the successful defense to a secret Belgian intelligence agent operating under the code name Hercule Poirot. Agent Poirot is credited with infiltrating the military command of the German, French, and English forces, successfully misdirecting each of them.
French and German troops were subsequently dumbfounded to find themselves ordered to march against each other into the scenic but utterly insignificant Gascony region, while the English fleet did not realize that it was operating on falsified orders to sail in the opposite direction until it was halfway to New York.
Observers speculate that agent Poirot has been operating in the French command for several months now, and may have been responsible for misdirecting French forces in Brest and Paris within the last year. Austrian generals are also reportedly checking into whether agent Poirot could have been responsible for ordering their Serbian unit to support a nonexistent attack on Rumania.


GALICIAN LODGING CRISIS RESOLVED

Russians here to stay, or just visiting?

Dateline GALICIA

The Galician lodging crisis reported last winter was successfully resolved this month. Mr. Eisendorf of the Galician Innkeeper’s association expressed guarded optimism in the arrival of a massive influx of visitors from Warsaw, and thanked the Moscow travel bureau for their staunch support. He sincerely hopes that the visiting Russians enjoy their winter vacation in Galicia and that they will be returning home shortly.


FASHION: FRENCH, BALKANS IMPORT CULTURE

Milan exports influence westward

Dateline MARSEILLES

http://www.italianmoda.com/storefronts/axis/fur-hats.jpg

The Marseilles fashion show took an unexpected flavor this year, as the runway was home to models sporting Versace, Gucci, and Armani styles and Italian fur hats and scarves. Executive Producer Jacques Strappe commented that the Italians “had taken Marseilles by storm” this season. He notes how France is ahead of the curve in adopting the latest trends, as opposed to cultural backwaters such as the Trieste region of Austria, which continues to reject efforts to import Italian styles in favor of local tastes.

Fez rages into Balkans


http://www.bobandtom.com/pix/wdw98_10.jpg

Meanwhile, the fez is quickly becoming the skullwarmer of choice in the Balkan region, with increasing fez sightings moving westward from Sofia, Bulgaria to Athens, Greece.

Leading designers remember Deep Throat’s prediction that the fez will overtake Italy by 1904. With Turkish and Italian styles both enjoying increased popularity, it remains unclear which headwear will ultimately end up "on top."

[Jonas Grumby]

The English is just the Sicilian with a move in hand...

Not that it ever seems to work out that way. :roll:

[E. Blackadder]

The link (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=5), I hope.

AND THE BUILDS ARE IN PLACE. Deadline for Spring, 1902 moves is Monday, at the usual time, whatever that is.

[Cho Da]

http://www.actuary.ca/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=10103&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=99

[Drzy]

I'll be without internet access from next Friday (3/7) @3pm until the following Friday (3/14) @~noon. So... um...

Sorry. :oops:

[E. Blackadder]

Tell your IS people it's not that hard to upgrade to windows...

[Jonas Grumby]

I'll be without internet access from next Friday (3/7) @3pm until the following Friday (3/14) @~noon. So... um...

Sorry. :oops:

Pre-submit your moves based on wishful thinking.

[Jonas Grumby]

The link (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=5), I hope.

AND THE BUILDS ARE IN PLACE. Deadline for Spring, 1902 moves is Monday, at the usual time, whatever that is.

Is this link also supposed to show the builds? It doesn't. I do see Cho Da's updated build map, though.

[Cho Da]

The link (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=5), I hope.

AND THE BUILDS ARE IN PLACE. Deadline for Spring, 1902 moves is Monday, at the usual time, whatever that is.

Is this link also supposed to show the builds? It doesn't. I do see Cho Da's updated build map, though.Page Down...

[Drzy]

Page Down...
Took me a bit to figure that out too. :duh:

I'll presubmit moves as much as I can, but if that fails, the best I can do is check my Diplomacy status immediately before I leave and as soon as I get back. I'll try my darndest to not hold the game up for everyone. Also, I'll post when I leave and when I get back.

[Jonas Grumby]

Doh! I hate when that happens.

[E. Blackadder]

There may be alternatives.

1: omitted.
2: we can shut down for a week;
3: We could ask for an RF volunteer to sub for the week
4: you could get internet access.

[Jonas Grumby]

We could all vote on his moves. Majority rules!

[Drzy]

The internet access isn't looking too likely. :( The best I can come up with so far is.... it looks like the next deadline would be Friday, the day I leave. I'll be leaving at 2pm EST. Can we bump the deadline to Thursday evening? Then when the results were released, I could put my moves in for the next week right away. There might still be a little delay with the game due to builds, but it would be pretty small.

[Jonas Grumby]

Is Spring '02 due today?

[Drzy]

Yup!

POST_COUNT:= POST_COUNT + 1

[Jonas Grumby]

Thanks!

400, here I come...

[E. Blackadder]

OK,

In the absence of objection,
Spring, 1902 due today; 3/3/2003
Fall, 1902 due Thursday; 3/6/2003
Spring, 1903 due a week from Friday. 3/14/2003, following which the standard schedule will resume.

[Jonas Grumby]

Of course, any such objections would be have to be done privately, per your earlier ruling. But publicly I support this 100%!

[Cho Da]

As long as Drzy gets his builds(removals :wink: ) done before he goes...

[Jonas Grumby]

As long as Drzy gets his builds(removals :wink: ) done before he goes...

And then it's springtime for Hitler! Oh, wait, he isn't around yet. Never mind.

[Drzy]

This sounds good to me. :D No problem with getting my builds in on time (if I get any!)... Diplomacy is what work is for, right?

Man, if there weren't all these smileys on the left, the million people who walk by my cube each day and see this screen might actually think I'm working.

[E. Blackadder]

It's late at night, but I think this is what happens.

Spring, 1902

Austria
A SER-RUM (Bounce. Two vs two. Then Dislodged. No place to go, so disbanded)
A BUD S A SER-RUM
F TRI-ALB (Successful)
A VIE-BOH (Three Way Bounce!)

Russia
F Rum-Bla (Successful)
A Ukr-Rum (Bounce. Two vs. two)
A Sev S A Ukr-Rum A Gal-Boh (Three Way Bounce!)
A War-Gal (Gal didn't move, so War doesn't move)
F Swe holds (successful)

Turkey
A Bulg --> Serbia (Two on one. Successful.)
A Greece Support A Bulg --> Serbia
F Const --> Aegean (Successful)
F Smyr --> E. Med (Successful)
A Ank --> Const (Successful)

France
A Spa-Mar (One on one. Cuts support, fails)
A Par-Bre (Bre not evacuated. Fails.)
F Bre-Eng (One on two. Fails)

Italy
A Marseilles S A Burgundy-Gascony (Support cut)
F Tunis-Western Mediterranean (Successful)
F Naples-Ionian Sea (successful)
A Venice-Trieste (Successful)
A Rome-Venice (Sucessful)

Germany
A Burgundy - Gascony (Successful)
F Denmark - North Sea (Bounce)
A Holland - Belgium (Successful)
A Kiel - Ruhr (Successful)
A Munich – Bohemia (Three Way Bounce)

England
Fleet London --> English Channel (Two vs one. Sucessful)
Fleet MAO support Fleet London --> English Channel
Fleet Norway --> North Sea (Bounce)
A Yorkshire --> Wales (successful)

The Link (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=6).

Obvious Headlines:
Belgium Falls; Three-way bounce in Bohemia, causes tie-up in Poland. Rampant Sign-switching blamed. Austria Searches for Army. France Searches for Friends. Germany: Student Body West!

[Don Quijote]

I want to hear from the insiders on the Italy-Russia discussions!

Hanse: What are you offering England to save your bacon?

[Cho Da]

The picture in the link has me still in Bur. My Move to Gas was successful.
See: http://www.actuary.ca/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=10103&start=99

[4sigma]

Geneva Gazette, April 1902

Belgium Annexed by Germans.

Belgian freedom fighters were finally overcome, after a hard-pitched battle with German occupation forces. A spokesman for Kaiser Cho Da reports that the Belgians are thought to have been pursuing a WMD program as part of an effort to deter occupation by the major powers. The German contingent, led by inspector Hans Blüx, are searching Belgian chemical and water-treatment facilities to verify neutralization of Belgian WMD.

World opinion was skeptical as to the true motive of the German forces. King Drzy, in his weekly press conference, stated that British intelligence shows Belgium is not yet capable of developing WMD. French intelligence responded with a deafening silence, as they were too busy monitoring local totalitarian democracies while eating fresh-frozen jumbo shrimp. However, they support giving the inspection process as long as necessary, if not longer.

A spokesman for Italian Re Lupo-Mannero III suggested that Belgium had resisted occupation to date solely due to the residents’ propensity to use cologne instead of actual soap and water. "It goes without saying that a clean population would attract more visitors." It is not clear whether recent events imply that the Belgians have changed their hygiene habits, or whether the occupying German forces are no longer deterred by such tactics.


Science

Black Hole in Austria!

Scientists at the Center for Gravitational Research today cited mounting evidence of the existence of a small black hole having formed in southeastern Austria. They report this is the first time observers have been able to detect the influence of a black hole on an entire army.

A Serbian military division is thought to have passed beyond the event horizon nearly a year ago. As they were passing into an alternate universe, they apparently attempted to support an attack on Rumania by the alternate-universe Bulgarian army -- however, the Bulgarian army was moving to Greece in the world as we know it. Within the last week, the Serbian army has now disappeared entirely, with the Turkish army from Bulgaria being sucked into the vacuum thus created. It remains unclear how much further the Turkish forces will be swept into the Balkans before reaching an equilibrium.

Research suggests that this heretofore undetected gravitational force accounts for the otherwise inexplicable movement of the Austrian fleet in Trieste to Albania, and for the countervailing power which prevented the Viennese army from reaching Bohemia. This theory is further supported by the vacuum in Austrian leadership which has, upon reflection, existed as long as anyone can remember.



Travel

Trieste joins Tunis, Marseilles, on list of top Italian vacation resorts.

A number of Italian troops, cruelly turned away from Trieste last winter, were warmly welcomed by the locals this spring.

The change of heart on the part of the Trieste fleet, which had barred the way only a few months earlier, may be the result of a formal diplomatic protest lodged last winter by Re Lupo-Mannaro III. "It's an outrage. It's discrimination, pure and simple," said Re Lupo-Mannaro. "Trust me when I say the Italian people will not soon forget this slight. Look for patriotic Italians to spend their hard-earned money in more friendly places, like France."

Italians visiting the warm beaches of Marseilles continue to report a pleasant vacation. "I think we will be seeing more of France," one opined. "Or perhaps, Ibiza."


Health

King Hanse warns against Stoli consumption.


King Hanse of France today formally announced that he was recovering from an illness precipitated by “a case of bad Stoli.” The announcement brought a vehement rebuke from Tsar Infinity, who noted that the Russians would never allow “our finest liquid creation” to be defiled for the lowly purpose of addling winemakers.

Lab tests on the controversial Stoli proved inconclusive. However, recent events in France make it clear that King Hanse has been indisposed at best. German forces, earlier believed to be enjoying the Burgundy vineyards, have now been sighted as far west as Gascony. The French Fleet in Brest appears unwilling to leave the coastline, and Parisians are either too concerned about their leader’s health to travel, or have not yet exhausted their cheese rations.

[E. Blackadder]

Sorry, the camouflage confused me. :duh:

We're updated.

[Drzy]

Just a reminder to get your moves in today, so I can see where I gots ta build. If the moves aren't released in time, I'll submit conditional builds to E-Black (can I call you that?), but it'd be ideal if I could see the exact situation. Ideal for me, that is! Screw all you! :wink:

[Cho Da]

Just a reminder to get your moves in today, so I can see where I gots ta build. If the moves aren't released in time, I'll submit conditional builds to E-Black (can I call you that?), but it'd be ideal if I could see the exact situation. Ideal for me, that is! Screw all you! :wink:Builds? You don't need no stinkin' builds!

[E. Blackadder]

I hope I adjudicated this correctly. Never have I seen so many stabbed by so many, and in such a complicated fashion. This move's not over yet!

Austria
F ALB S F Ionian - Greece (Two on two. Standoff.)
A BUD- SER (Succeeds.)
A VIE-BUD (Bounces with A Gal – Bud.)
Russia
A Gal-Bud (Bounces with A Vie-Bud because support was cut.)
A War-Gal (Gal didn’t leave, so doesn’t move.)
A Ukr-Rum (Succeeds.)
A Sev-Con (Succeeds.)
F Bla C A Sev-Con (Succeeds.)
F Swe-Nor (Succeeds!)
France
A Spa-Mar (Fails. Unit is dislodged. Choices: retreat to Portugal, or disband)
F Bre-Gas (Succeeds. Two on one.)
A Par S F Bre-Gas (Succeeds.)
Italy
A Marseilles-Spain (Succeeds.)
F Western Mediterranean S A Marseilles-Spain (Succeeds.)
A Venice-Apulia (Succeeds.)
F Ionian Sea-Greece (Two on two. Fails.)
A Trieste S A Budapest-Serbia (Succeeds.)
Turkey
A Greece hold (Succeeds.)
F Aeg Support A Greece (Succeeds.)
F E.Med --> Ionian (Fails.)
A Serb Support A Gal --> Bud (dislodged, cannot support. Options: Bulgeria or disband)
A Con --> Ank (Succeeds.)
Germany
A Belgium Supports A Ruhr - Burgundy (Succeeds.)
F Denmark - Sweden (Succeeds.)
A Gascony - Paris (Fails. Unit is dislodged. Options: Marsailles, or disband)
A Munich - Bohemia (Succeeds.)
A Ruhr – Burgundy (Succeeds.)
England
Army Wales --> Brest (Succeeds.)
Fleet English Channel CONVOY Army Wales --> Brest (Succeeds.)
Fleet MAO SUPPORT Army Wales --> Brest (Succeeds.)
Fleet Norway --> St. Petersburg (North Coast) (Succeeds.)

We'll combine the dislodgement and build/disband phase for economy of GM effort. :D

Three players need to resolve the dislodgements. France’s choice is a no-brainer: take Portugal; Turkey’s decision won’t affect his supply centre count, but will affect placement. Germany’s decision will affect the supply centre count.

The map link (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=7) is hypothetical based on the assumption that no player will disband in the dislodgement phase. If and when this hypothesis is disproven, I will adjust the map.

If no dislodgement disbandments are received, then the number of supply centres held by each player will be:
A: 3 (no builds; no disbandments)
E: 5 (one build)
F: 2 (one disbandment, following the dislodgement.) If A SPA doesn't retreat to Portugal, then F: 1 (one more disbandment.) **** The THIRD edit.
G:8 (3 builds) if A Gas retreats, 7 (3 builds) otherwise. **** This was the edit. ****
I: 6 (one build), If A Gas disbands, 7 (two builds). Please solve both cases.
R: 6 (no builds; no disbandments)
T: 4 (one disbandment; could be taken in dislodgement phase)

Let me know what and where (in your home supply centres) you intend to build, or -- if you must -- disband.

Italy has the unenviable task of figuring out what it wishes to build in two cases. Case 1: A Gas "retreats" to Marseilles; case 2: A Gas disbands.

All players with a dislodged unit must let me know how to handle the unit. As it turns out, this is in all cases: move to the only open space; or disband.

Don't Diplome during this phase; Honor system applies.

Flash headlines from the impartial moderator: France: Europe's Vacation Spot; England, Germany Evacuated; Portugal and Belgium: A Contrast of two Supply Centres; Scandanavian Merry-go-round; Italy and Austria: First the Stab, then the Alliance?; Germany and Italy: First the Alliance, then the Stab? Russians Hope to Meet Hot Istanbul Girls, Get Warm Welcome in Constantinople; Run Like a Dog, or Die Like a Man: Three Armies, Three Decisions. But Would Sarte Approve?

**** 2nd Edit starts here. As of 1:30 PST (PM), have received 4 of the 5 responses. ****

[Werewolf]

I hope I adjudicated this correctly. Never have I seen so many stabbed by so many, and in such a complicated fashion. This move's not over yet!


And think, it's only the 4th move!

Re Lupo-Mannaro III
Italy

[Drzy]

I'm off to visit the Americas! Servant-boy Phillip will be collecting my mail while I'm gone, and I'll promptly return all messages on Friday. Have a good week! 8)

[Cho Da]

OK, who hasn't gotten their retreats and adjustments in yet? How hard can it be if you don't talk to anyone?

[E. Blackadder]

By sheer coincidence, I guessed right on the last map. Nobody chose to disband, now we need at least one set of orders for year end builds / disbands.

What with one thing or another, including the site physical relocation, there's no rush just yet, but it would be a thoughtful idea.

[Doctor Infinity]

:bump:

Hopefully the forum is up and running for good and we can resume the game (and the diploming) soon once the Winter 1902 builds and disbands have been posted.

[E. Blackadder]

I intend to have an answer for all by the end of tomorrow.

Purely as an aside, would anyone care to fill in should there arise a need?

[Moderator2]

While France's position is precarious, Austria may soon be singing many anthems.

Italy and Germany have overextended themselves and appear vulnerable in the middle. Unlikely alliances have risen to take advantage of the situation.

Russia, having gained a warm water port, will soon find that port closed.

France is taking steps to set up a govenment in exile (Elba?)

[E. Blackadder]

After some misunderstanding,The adjustments have been made (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=8).

Germany built three armies.
There's a new fleet in Rome. -----> Correction: Naples. <------
Another in London.

Disbands...
Fleet:Eastern Med.
Fleet: Gas

[Cho Da]

EB's link doesn't seem to be working. Here is my version:
http://home.attbi.com/~cho_da/RF.jpg (http://www.actuary.ca/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=10103&start=99)

[Jonas Grumby]

The link worked for me. He must be borrowing space from a porn site, and your firewall has blocked him. :D

Hey, 4 of 5 registered users currently online are involved in the game. Must be lots of PMs flying around... :o

[Cho Da]

I can see his link now, too. There is a discrepancy, though.
Is the Italian build in Rome (my map and published orders) or in Naples (EB's map)?

[the mole]

Why would anyone trust EB's map? If you have questions, PM them to the source you can really trust.

[Werewolf]

I can see his link now, too. There is a discrepancy, though.
Is the Italian build in Rome (my map and published orders) or in Naples (EB's map)?

The fleet is properly in the beautiful Italian port of Naples, as per Re Lupo-Mannaro's orders.

[E. Blackadder]

The Fleet is in Naples as per the orders, though great Ghu alone knows why...

Don't hurt me, please!

[Cho Da]

The Fleet is in Naples as per the orders, though great Ghu alone knows why...

Don't hurt me, please!My map has been corrected. :swear:

[Werewolf]

The Fleet is in Naples as per the orders, though great Ghu alone knows why...


The shipyards in Rome were set to build another fleet, but some last-minute German vacation plans in Marseilles exerted a mysterious ripple effect that closed the Rome shipyards.

You see, we sent our most unhappy workers on a vacation to Marseilles, where they could strike, and feel perfectly at home. (It is France, after all.) But when sent home by the German tourists, they instead started a local work stoppage, and that desired fleet couldn't be built. Friggin' labor unions!

Re Lupo-Mannaro III
Italy

[Jonas Grumby]

Are we on for a move today? Wha'ppening?

[E. Blackadder]

This week has been eventful, what with the server move, the miscommunication, and the vacation. If anyone asks for more time, I'd probably have to give it.

[Cho Da]

I am up for moving today, but only if King Drzy makes his return be known, say by submitting or confirming orders and picking up the week's mail :)

Everyone check in that their connections are working!

[Jonas Grumby]

Actually, I've been having trouble getting to the server even though it's up now...one more day would be nice, though if the consensus is move on, then move on I will.

[E. Blackadder]

I've not heard from Drzy, so let's take the weekend to reflect on our sins. The deadline is Monday at 7:30 PM PST. The next deadline will be Friday, Same time, and we'll try to keep to our schedule, won't we?

[Drzy]

I'm back... at midnight!! A whole day on the planes, yeep. I'll be looking over the bounty of messages Phillip collected and try to get back to you all ASAP. :)

[E. Blackadder]

Spring, 1903

Russia

A Gal-Bud
A Con-Bul
F Bla S A Con-Bul
A Rum S A Con-Bul
A War-Liv
F Nor Holds

Austria

A VIE-BUD
A SER S A CON-BUL
F ALB S F Ionian Sea-GRE

Germany

A Belgium - Picardy
A Berlin - Munich
A Bohemia Supports A Munich - Tyrolia
A Burgundy - Paris
A Kiel Hold
A Marseilles Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
A Munich - Tyrolia
F Sweden Hold

England

Army Brest S A Bur --> Par
Fleet MAO --> Spain (South Coast)
Fleet English Channel --> MAO
Fleet St. Petersburg (NC) --> Norway
Fleet London --> North Sea

Italy

A Spain S F Mid Atlantic Ocean-Portugal
F Western Mediterranean-Gulf of Lyon
A Apulia-Venice
A Trieste S A Galicia-Budapest
F Ionian Sea-Greece
F Naples-Ionian Sea

France

A Par-Gas
A Por-Spa

Turkey

A Bulg --> Con
F Aeg S A Bulg --> Con
A Ank S A Bulg --> Con
A Greece --> Bulg

I'll adjudicate later today.

[Cho Da]

Wow! Looks bad for Turkey.

[4sigma]

Yes, it appears that the Balkan fez fad is fading. Details to follow in the upcoming issue of the Gazette.

[Cho Da]

My interpretation on the orders. Not official.
http://home.attbi.com/~cho_da/board.jpg

[E. Blackadder]

Sorry, guys. Sometimes they actually make me work. Today, for instance, they wanted me to calculate the effects of firing our claims staff on policy retention...

As an aside, I sense a certain, er... great power might go into involuntary civil disorder for upstaging moi. :P

But OFFHAND, the picture above looks reasonable, if pre-electronic.

[Don Quijote]

I want to hear from the insiders on the Italy-Russia discussions!

Hanse: What are you offering England to save your bacon?

Jonas - don´t say we didn´t see it coming.

Hanse - obviously not enough.

[Hanse]

France would, of course, come to the aid of Turkey, if a foreign power were to declare war on her. However this is not the time to be planning the defense of Turkey. We should instead seek peaceful resolution in the region. Oh yeah, and we'd help if we could fight our way out of a wet paper bag.

[Drzy]

When I was in Vegas last week, we ate at a knight-themed dinner theatre where you're assigned to sit in a country's section and cheer for your country's knight. We got France, and boy oh boy did all those other countries shout some major-league boos when our knight came out. Apparently there's some anti-French sentiment in the U.S. I can't imagine why. :P

[E. Blackadder]

Sorry about the above post, it was the coffee talking. I agree with Cho Da's layout, and envy his digital camera. You may or may not have noticed that the last link broke.

The official map (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=8).

[Hanse]

EB,

not to bitch too much, but your map is (incorrectly) labeled "Fall 1903"

KotR, Hanse

[E. Blackadder]

It's the map you will use to make your Fall, 1903 moves.

Which have just been made...

Mr. Work Computer's mommyboard -- where the Powerpoint 2000 is (the powerpoint file doesn't work with my home powerpoint 97)-- went sort of down. So I'm moving to anther computer at least temporarily.

So as I catch up with work today, I'm going to figure this out.

[E. Blackadder]

Here's how I interpet the fall moves...

Italy
A Venice-Trieste (Succeeds)
A Trieste-Serbia (Succeds)
F Gulf of Lyon-Piedmont (Succeeds)
F Ionian Sea S F Greece (Succeeds)
F Greece S F Ionian Sea (Succeeds)
(Gets two builds)

Austria
A VIE S A SER-BUD (Support is cut by attack from A Tyr – Vie; dislodged; only retreat possible to Galicia or disband)
A SER-BUD (Fails. Dislodged by supported A Tri – Ser. Only retreat possible to Albania or disband)
F ALB-ADR (Succeeds.)
Regardless of what happens with the dislodged units in the dislodgment / retreat phase, Austria is out of supply centers, and the game as of the end of 1903.

Russia
F Nor-StP (Succeeds)
A Liv S F Nor-StP (Succeeds)
A Bud S A Tri-Ser (Succeeds)
A Rum S A Tri-Ser (Succeeds)
A Bul-Con (Bounces with F Aegian)
F BLA-Ank (Bounces off A Ank, but cuts support)
(Gets two builds)

Turkey
F Aegian --> Con (Bounces)
A Ank supports F Aeg --> Con (Support is cut)
(No builds; no disbands)

Germany
A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia - Vienna (Succeds)
A Kiel - Holland (Succeeds)
A Marseilles Supports A Gascony - Spain (Succeeds)
A Munich - Tyrolia (Succeeds)
A Paris Supports A Brest - Gascony (Succeeds)
A Picardy Supports A Paris (Succeeds)
F Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway (Succeeds)
A Tyrolia – Vienna (Succeeds)
(Gets two builds)

France
A Por Hold (Fails; dislodged; disbanded.)
A Gas-Spa (Succeeds)
(No builds; no disbands in end-of-year phase.)

England
F Spain (sc) --> Portugal (succeeds)
F MAO S F Spain (sc) --> Portugal (succeeds)
A Brest --> Gascony (succeeds)
F NTH --> Norway (Succeeds)
F Stp (nc) S F NTH --> Norway (Support cut; dislodged. Choice of Barents sea or disbandment)
(one build, if Barents sea; two builds, if disbandment of F StP.) THIS SHOULD BE RESOLVED (without negotiation) BEFORE YEAR-END BUILDS)
Check: 31 units at start. 31 - Four disbands = 27. 27 units plus 7 builds = 34.

Austria was in a tough position from the start, and should not take it personally.

[Cho Da]

http://home.attbi.com/~cho_da/RF.jpg

[Macroman]

Well it's been fun!

[E. Blackadder]

England Retreats to the Barents.

Gentlemen, start your builds!

[Drzy]

It's gettin' intense... what a great game! 8)

[E. Blackadder]

England
F London

Italy
A Venice
A Rome

Germany (the new teddy bear!)
F Kiel
A Munich

Russia
A Warsaw
A Sevastopol

and the new map. (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=9) Complaints should be addressed to my new office in Baghdad.

[E. Blackadder]

Deadline is Wednesday.

[Werewolf]

It's gettin' intense... what a great game! 8)

Agreed. Lots of fun! (Sorry, Macroman.)

Looking ahead to being stabbed,

Re Lupo-Mannaro III
Italy

[E. Blackadder]

I would have posted this on my way home, but my supervisor was getting his third wind, and I decided to sneak out.

If I can find a quiet moment tomorrow, I'll put up the map. But don't hold your breath. Much in the way of a certain NASA zero-gravity toilet, the waste product is about to intersect with the rotating blades.

England
F Portugal --> Spain (sc)
A Gascony S F Portugal --> Spain (sc)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean --> English Channel
F London --> North Sea
F Norway --> Skagerrak
F Barents Sea --> Norway

Russia
Bud S Tri-Vie
Rum-Gal
War-Sil
Liv-Pru
Bul-Con
BLA S Bul-Con
Sev-Arm
StP holds

Italy
F Piedmont Holds
A Venice S F Piedmont
A Rome-Tuscany
A Trieste-Vienna
A Serbia-Trieste
F Ionian Sea-Aegean Sea
F Greece S F Ionian Sea-Aegean Sea

Germany
A Bohemia - Silesia
A Holland - Kiel
F Kiel - Baltic Sea
A Marseilles Supports F Portugal - Spain(sc)
A Munich Supports A Bohemia - Silesia
A Paris - Gascony
A Picardy - Paris
F Sweden - Denmark
A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna - Trieste
A Vienna – Trieste

France
A Spa-Gas

Turkey
F Aeg --> Const
A Ank S F Aeg --> Const

[Cho Da]

And those rotating blades are painful when they intersect my back! :swear:

[E. Blackadder]

The pre-retreat map (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=10).

I hope. Let me know if you find errors.

[one error was found and corrected]

Get that retreat to me, plz. retreat to smyrna.

I'll adjust the map again.

[Hanse]

Funny, but I don't see any light blue on the map :evil:

Good thing I stockpiled all that wine in Switzerland. Guess I'll be hanging out there with macroman, drinking and waiting for these hostilities to end.

I'd like to say it was fun, having my back used as pin (knife) cushon by my "allies" in western Europe. But I won't. :swear:

[Cho Da]

Deadline for F1904M? Today?

[E. Blackadder]

Sorry, Hanse. As with Austria, you seem to have been placed in a totally infeasible position from the start.

Sometimes one is the windshield; sometimes one is the bug.

I recommend a warm bath.

The deadline is MONDAY. I forgot if I moved the Turkish unit (It's been that kind of week). If I haven't, I will.

[Don Quijote]

Hanse - get back at them my vetoing their plans in the UN.

Might not stop the armies, but you´ll have the moral high ground.

[Jonas Grumby]

The deadline is MONDAY. I forgot if I moved the Turkish unit (It's been that kind of week). If I haven't, I will.

The "Turkish unit" sounded, I don't know, kind of funny to me. So please be careful moving it.

[E. Blackadder]

the most recent map (see waaay above) is up to date. Sorry for the difficulties, but allocating negative earned premium by state and by line isn't always fun...

[Macroman]

Join me over here, Hanse.

[E. Blackadder]

I'll adjudicate later -- when I have a board. (Maybe I'll download realpolitik!)

Russia's Fall 1904 Orders
F Stp-Nwy
A War- Sil
A Pru S A War-Sil
A Bud-Vie
A Gal S A Bud-Vie
A Bul-Con
A Arm-Ank
F Bla S A Arm-Ank

Germany
F Baltic Sea Supports A Kiel - Denmark
F Denmark - Sweden
A Kiel - Denmark
A Marseilles - Spain
A Munich Supports A Tyrolia
A Paris - Brest
A Picardy - Paris
A Silesia - Berlin
A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna
A Vienna Supports A Trieste - Budapest

Italy
F Greece hold
F Aegean Sea-Smyrna
A Tuscany-Piedmont
A Trieste-Tyrolia
A Venice S A Trieste-Tyrolia
A Serbia-Trieste
F Piedmont-Marseilles

Turkey
A Ank --> Const
F Smyr S A Ank --> Const

England
A Gascony --> Brest
F Spain (sc) Support F Piedmont --> Marseilles
F English Channel --> Belgium
F North Sea Support F English Channel --> Belgium
F Norway --> Sweden
F Skagerrak S F Norway --> Sweden

[E. Blackadder]

The Map (http://www.actsci.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&page_id=11).

Dislodgements have been resolved.

Supply Centre Count
England 8. Build 2
Germany 6. Disband 4.
Italy 8. Build 1
Russia 11. Build 3.
Turkey 1. Do nothing.

[Hanse]

Skipper, we grabbed another stool for you here at the bar. :(

[Jonas Grumby]

Skipper, we grabbed another stool for you here at the bar. :(

Believe it or not, it might be a race between me and Germany.

[Moderator2]

Germany ignored warnings of over extending to its peril. Italy has contracted somewhat, but made tenuous deals with both Russia and England to secure itself. These deals will collapse in the next year.

England will seek deals with anyone to prevent the growth of Russia, but with trust gone, will find no takers. Its only hope now is that fear will keep either the Germans or Italians from alliance with Russia and driving it off the continent.

Germany and Italy have agreed to only grow in opposite directions, and aid in the support of one another in the opposite direction.

[E. Blackadder]

We're still missing one great power's build(s).

You should know whom you are.

[Cho Da]

We're still missing one great power's build(s).
Obviously not me. :cry:

[E. Blackadder]

Sorry.

[Drzy]

We're still missing one great power's build(s).
Nor me! :P

[Werewolf]

We're still missing one great power's build(s).

You should know whom you are.

Why's everybody looking at me? :oops:

Re Lupo-Mannaro III
Italy

[E. Blackadder]

The adjustments are in...

Italy: (build)
A Rome

Russia: (builds)
A War
A Mos
F StP (sc)

England (builds)
Army at Edinburgh
Fleet at London

Germany (removes)
A Picardy
A Paris
A Burgundy
A Kiel

The map will be up later.

[E. Blackadder]

The good news is that the map is ready to be uploaded; the bad news is that there seem to be upgrades... enhancements... changes, anyway, to actsci.com. Now I've got to figure out the upload process again. :(