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Hagbard Celine
11-20-2001, 08:44 AM
When do you think results for 1-4 will be released?

Usually they post a tentative date in the upper right-hand corner of the Education and Exams page of the SOA web page. I don't see it there yet and haven't been able to find a date anywhere.

I'm hoping it will be (relatively) early this time. They released the exam and an answer key, 2 days after each exam, the quickest (by far) they've ever done this. I'm hopeful they will try to get results out more quickly than is usual, also.

WQN
11-20-2001, 08:46 AM
Jan. 4 is the posted date. Don't think they will come out sooner. They never will.

Hagbard Celine
11-20-2001, 09:56 AM
That's bad news.

I agree that if Jan. 4 is the posted date, they will not come out earlier.

ASA_Woman
11-20-2001, 10:01 AM
where is that date posted?

Hagbard Celine
11-20-2001, 10:24 AM
Yeah, I can't find that date anywhere.

The only thing I can find is in the basic education catalog...it says usually 8-10 weeks. Jan. 4 definitely falls in that range but I find no specific reference to the fourth.

Sydney Bristow
11-20-2001, 10:30 AM
It's printed in the Instructions to Candidates that you received with your admission slip. (There's a picture of a mailbox right beside it...)

Hagbard Celine
11-20-2001, 10:34 AM
Well....see, that's the problem.

That would have required me to actually read the instructions...

Dr T Non-Fan
11-20-2001, 12:22 PM
Um, HC, you ARE required to read the instructions to candidates.

Mardi
11-20-2001, 12:24 PM
just because we all have them *memorized* by now.....

"Good morning and welcome to the exam for Course blahblahblah...."

Hagbard Celine
11-20-2001, 12:35 PM
Well figuring I've never really read them and I have 1-3 and CAS 5 I guess it really isn't required now, is it?

Are they going to take my exams away because I'm admitting to not reading the instructions?

Dr T Non-Fan
11-20-2001, 12:52 PM
As soon as I get your name and address,...

Steve White
11-20-2001, 01:14 PM
On 2001-11-20 12:35, Hagbard Celine wrote:

Are they going to take my exams away because I'm admitting to not reading the instructions?


Speaking only for the SOA E&E Committee, we will not take away credit for CAS-5 under the circumstances you describe.

jerkweed
11-20-2001, 01:21 PM
My birthday is January 4th. Maybe this year I will have a happy birthday.

Anonymous
11-20-2001, 02:15 PM
Each birthday is a happy birthday so don't worry. Happy birthday to you in advance.

Jen
11-20-2001, 04:23 PM
It's out!It's out!It's OUT!!


The turkey is out!

Happy holiday! Guys!

Hagbard Celine
11-20-2001, 04:31 PM
That'll be one nasty turkey unless you celebrate Thanksgiving early!

Jen
11-28-2001, 02:51 PM
Now that the SOA had the turkey, when are we going to have the results? Can we expect it before Christmas somehow? It would really be nice.

tesla_styx
11-29-2001, 08:29 AM
It would be nice for those that pass... but Christmas time is already known to have the highest incidences of suicide (well hopefully noone takes exams THAT seriously, but it certainly can be a catalyst for depression).

Jen
11-29-2001, 09:38 AM
I don't think it's going to kill anyone. I mean, I'd rather know earlier so that I can plan earlier and do better for the next one. Honestly we already know how we did ourselves, if you got either above 28 or under 24 right, there is no need to wait on the result. Whatever result comes out for those hanging between 24-28 would be a holiday blessing. Either confirmed we really didn't work hard enough or we were quite lucky or even smart to expect another exam raise in the new year. Well, bottom line, everyday is the same good or bad in terms of releasing result. The earlier, the more efficient is SOA approved among the industry and all of us.

Hagbard Celine
11-30-2001, 09:09 AM
Jen,

What exam did you take?

28 seems awfully high for exams 3 and 4...

Nanae7
11-30-2001, 09:21 AM
I agree with you too. Based on what everyone has been saying, 28 seems awfully high for exam 1, too. It's been more in the low 20s. And for the record, I would rather find out maybe end of November or just wait until January for the scores. I do not want to find out I failed during December right in the middle of the holidays. Merry Christmas everyone!

ASA_Woman
11-30-2001, 09:36 AM

ASA_Woman
11-30-2001, 09:37 AM
I think she's referring to Course 2 (50 question exam).

Jen
11-30-2001, 04:38 PM
C-4.


On 2001-11-30 09:09, Hagbard Celine wrote:
Jen,

What exam did you take?

28 seems awfully high for exams 3 and 4...

Jen
11-30-2001, 04:43 PM
I was actually very nervous if I was going to get an 8 when I knew for sure I got 39 out of 40 right last november when I was taking C-1 my first time. I thought everyone trying to get to this profession were awefully smart in math and computer. Maybe I was wrong then or maybe I am wrong now. I'd like to think highly of my peers and/or competitors.

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Caramel
11-30-2001, 05:49 PM
Well people in actuarial field tend to have higher interest in math-related matters and for those doing exams, are surely hard working, and determined.

Me too, I have very high respect for people in this field.

Not easy at all...

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tesla_styx
12-03-2001, 09:07 AM
How could 39/40 be an 8? That would necessitate that a 9 means scores of 40-42 (minimally), and a 10 would be >42 (aka impossible).

I guess it might be possible that they decide one year not to give out 10's, but then why would you worry over an 8, if it was one of the top two (possible) scores.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic... I admire overachievers... I just don't understand the logic of equilibrating a 39/40 to an 8. Or were you just emphasizing your point?

Mardi
12-03-2001, 09:38 AM
a 10 doesn't equate to a perfect score. It is 50% higher than the pass mark. If the pass mark is set at 70%, then 6 is 77%, 7 84%,8 93%,9 100% and no 10 given that sitting. so it really depends on where they set the pass mark.

Oscar
12-03-2001, 09:49 AM
Mardi,

What is your source for the theory of how 6-10's are given?

I've seen where a 0 is <50% of the passing score, but nothing on scores above 6.

Mardi
12-03-2001, 10:12 AM
page 13 of the Spring catalog says 'on this scale, the interval is 10% of the score required to pass'. I would think this applies up as well as down. It does only use the 0 as an example score.
But in my 70% example, a 0 would be 35%, which could have been a 2 on another sitting.
Everything depends on where the pass mark is set.

tesla_styx
12-03-2001, 12:28 PM
I'm well aware of how they determine a 10. In fact that was the basis for my thought.

tesla_styx
12-03-2001, 12:37 PM
p.s. I believe in your example a 10 would be 98-100%... looks like you made a slight arithmetic mistake between a score of 7 and 8.

Mardi
12-03-2001, 01:13 PM
well nobody said I could *add*

actually, I have seen exams with really high pass levels, but on FES, not the new stuff. I thought these were pretty much still in the basement due to the huge amounts of material. Does that logic apply to 1 and 2 as well?

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