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Old 07-28-2007, 02:02 AM
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Default Silliness at the House of Gittelman

CB was having a pleasant set despite his... partner, if you call him that.

Code:
Hand 12; N/S Vul; Dlr: W; Conditions: ACBL game, IMPs

          A4
          J4
          AT93
          AQJ82
9632                KQJ875
T972                AQ653
Q73                 2
94                  5
          T
          K8
          KJ864
          KT763
North opened 1 planning a light reverse#, East bid 2 ostensibly showing majors, good or bad. CB had a delicate problem, which he reasonably solved with 2*. West now underbid 2. I mean, he's favorable and has a 4th trump.

Now, what am I is CB's idiot partner supposed to do?! 4 is probably right, but I paid entry fees (which entitles me to bid more), and went to 5, hoping to avoid a heart lead through sheer chutzpah. East, sensing that his Q might be wasted, sac'ed at 5. Partner recognized the post-mortem tactical benefits of being dummy, and converted back to 6 clubs, against which East again sacrificed, this time merely doubled.

Code:
West  North East  South
 Pass   1C    2C    2D
  2S    5D    5S    6C
 Pass  Pass  6S    pass 
 Dbl.
After a gratuitous low-trump lead, N/S caught the obvious four tricks, for +500.

1. How should north bid over the 2 bid?
2. What would a real player do at North's second bid?
3. What should North do in 6 on the lead -- say -- of A and another? Of course E/W are idiots, but that's a side issue. Perhaps.

# are you OK with this, CB?
*Playing my favorite version of U/U, he'd bid 2, but we aren't.

Hand 11, none vul; Dlr: S
Code:
          76
          J62
          T2
          KQJT74
K9                  AQ54
AK9873              T54
KQ5                 9763
A8                  65
          JT832
          Q
          AJ84
          932
The E/W auction (same guys) went
1 - 1 (a systemic violation)
3NT - 4.

Your problem is to figure out how West lost four tricks on the lead of the club king. It wasn't easy.
Spoiler:
Club Ace, Diamond King to the Ace, Club to the Ten, Spade to the Ace, heart to the Ace, King, King of Spades, and a heart to North's Jack. At this point, the defense is Edmund-proof, though it was clear to lead a club, just in case.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:44 AM
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c'mon EB always a pleasure to play with you! Don't see any problem reversing that hand, but I've never really bought into the don't bid 1NT with two doubletons idea.
Instead of leaping to 5D with your hand I'm wondering if 3S would be a diamond raise or not. It's too late for me to really think about this though, pls others are more qualified to answer.
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:42 AM
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Code:
Hand 12; N/S Vul; Dlr: W; Conditions: ACBL game, IMPs

          A4
          J4
          AT93
          AQJ82
9632                KQJ875
T972                AQ653
Q73                 2
94                  5
          T
          K8
          KJ864
          KT763
1. How should north bid over the 2 bid?
I confess I'd be looking for 3NT rather than 6. It requires some partnership discussion, but I beleive that after East's 2-suited overcall, 3 or 3 here are best used as stopper showing, and urging partner to consider 3NT if he has the other major stopped. So I'd bid 3 as North, expecting to make 3NT by running diamonds if South has a stopper. 3NT admittedly is not the par contract on the given hand, but on some days South will hold QTxx instead of Kx, and then you will be much happier in 3NT than in 6 of a minor.

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2. What would a real player do at North's second bid?
Isn't this the same question as (1)? Or are you asking me to answer on behalf of a real player?

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3. What should North do in 6 on the lead -- say -- of A and another? Of course E/W are idiots, but that's a side issue. Perhaps.
The bidding strongly suggests East's 6-5 distribution (would West raise to only 2 at favorable vul with 5-4 in the majors? It's admittedly difficult to conceive that he did so with the given hand.) When you draw trumps and find East with a singleton club, finessing West for the Q becomes strongly indicated. "Eight Ever, Nine Never" is for your grandmother.

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Hand 11, none vul; Dlr: S
Code:
          76
          J62
          T2
          KQJT74
K9                  AQ54
AK9873              T54
KQ5                 9763
A8                  65
          JT832
          Q
          AJ84
          932
The E/W auction (same guys) went
1 - 1 (a systemic violation)
3NT - 4.

Your problem is to figure out how West lost four tricks on the lead of the club king. It wasn't easy.
Haven't read your spoiler. I think the best line for down 1 is for declarer to duck the opening lead, South discouraging. North shifts to the T, South encouraging as Declarer wins an honor.

Declarer can now lose an early trump trick in a variety of ways. Simplest is by ducking a trump from both hands, allowing West to win his singleton Q. More elegant is to lead a to dummy, blocking the spade suit, leading the T to the Q and A, and then ducking a trump to North while he still holds a small one.

Either way, the defense now cashes the A and gives North a ruff.

Note that if you played this hand before the previous one, you may reasonably infer that West is under the influence of hallucinogens, which may affect your assumption as to whether or not he could hold 5 spades and raise his partner to only 2 after Michaels. In which case, the play of the suit in a hypothetical 6 contract becomes less clear. Fortunately, I trust that the issue did not arise.
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:43 PM
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Default More silliness!

A certain somebody -- who shall remain anonymous -- was at the table when this was perpetrated.
Board 10; All vul; Dlr: E
Code:
          J865
          T5
          K9
          Q7653
KT43                AQ7
J2                  AKQ76
Q73                 A62
AKT8                J4
          92
          9843
          JT854
          92
with a great 32 HCP, you might chance being in slam, and if you were there, it wouldn't be the worst slam you've ever been in....

At the other table, E/W got to 6NT and duly went down... but watch this.

1 (why aren't we playing puppet stayman, as they are at the other table?)
... 1 (good thing we aren't playing 2NT natural here.)
4 (extra playing strength should compensate for the missing trump. I'll claim I had a club mixed in with my spades)
... 4NT (I have seven more points than I promised!)
5 3 key cards... (Hey, what happened to my 4th spade?!)
... 6 RKC did its job again.

by first principles (4-3 fit, 4-2 break, unavoidable trump loser), you might think 6NT is better than 6 You might be wrong.
T, 6, 3, J
3, 8, A, 2
Q, 9, 4, 5
7, 4, K, 6
2, 5, A, 8
K, 9, 3, 3. Hey, why didn't north ruff?! Why indeed...
Q, 2, 7 (an error, taking North off the endplay), 5 (also an error)
7, 4, 8, 6 continuing, indeed compounding the error.
J, 9, K, 7. Now West (dummy), is frigid, as there's one club out.

and I won't bore you with the rest. (north took trick 13) Still. the threat of the endplay seemed to negate some of the effect of the high trump.
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Old 06-23-2009, 04:22 PM
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Looks like 33HCP to me, and 6NT is surely an excellent contract, perhaps better than 6S. The only reason 6NT goes down single dummy is because all 3 threats lie over dummy's threats, so "U" (Upper Threat) doesn't exist and no triple squeeze without mirrors. And the only reason 6S would make (with mirrors) is because the other opponent cannot lead the revealing (and automatic) diamond jack. Clearly you can make 6NT by playing RHO for specific doubleton diamond king, but this seems very anti-percentage to finessing clubs after 2-4 spade break is revealed. A great player might work this out against mediocre defenders. For a similar layout, look at the 3rd deal in Ron Klinger's "The Last Board" from Bridge World, December, 1971!

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A certain somebody -- who shall remain anonymous -- was at the table when this was perpetrated.
Board 10; All vul; Dlr: E
Code:
          J865
          T5
          K9
          Q7653
KT43                AQ7
J2                  AKQ76
Q73                 A62
AKT8                J4
          92
          9843
          JT854
          92
with a great 32 HCP, you might chance being in slam, and if you were there, it wouldn't be the worst slam you've ever been in....

At the other table, E/W got to 6NT and duly went down... but watch this.

1 (why aren't we playing puppet stayman, as they are at the other table?)
... 1 (good thing we aren't playing 2NT natural here.)
4 (extra playing strength should compensate for the missing trump. I'll claim I had a club mixed in with my spades)
... 4NT (I have seven more points than I promised!)
5 3 key cards... (Hey, what happened to my 4th spade?!)
... 6 RKC did its job again.

by first principles (4-3 fit, 4-2 break, unavoidable trump loser), you might think 6NT is better than 6 You might be wrong.
T, 6, 3, J
3, 8, A, 2
Q, 9, 4, 5
7, 4, K, 6
2, 5, A, 8
K, 9, 3, 3. Hey, why didn't north ruff?! Why indeed...
Q, 2, 7 (an error, taking North off the endplay), 5 (also an error)
7, 4, 8, 6 continuing, indeed compounding the error.
J, 9, K, 7. Now West (dummy), is frigid, as there's one club out.

and I won't bore you with the rest. (north took trick 13) Still. the threat of the endplay seemed to negate some of the effect of the high trump.
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:07 AM
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Default Falco and The Zone of Silliness.

Playing IMPs, you're dealt
KQ3
QJT6
J8
QT53

in 2nd position, red on white.

Pass to you, you pass of course. (2), natural and weak, partner doubles, RHO bumps to (4) and you...?

Spoiler:
You bid 4 like a human, of course. Unfortunately, you're in the (ZoS), and partner has:
Spoiler:

AT
A9
65
AKJ9764

Perhaps you should have doubled, responsively. It wouldn't have occurred to me at the time.



Of course, things got sillier as the match progressed.

1st seat, red vs. white, the uncontested auction with...
Code:
T6        AK752
QT5432    -
AJ86      K542
4         AQ86
1 - 1NT (presumably forcing) - 2 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5
, even if it makes, with three high side-cards and a total cross-ruff. IMO, with a three-suited hand, opener should not rebid the lowest of his suits.

Code:
          9843
          AJ97
          Q73
          T2
T6                  AK752
QT5432              -
AJ86                K542
4                   AQ86
          QJ
          K86
          T9
          KJ9753
the ZoS was about to strike...
Spoiler:

T, J, 3, 2. Apparently Falco has been to cross-ruff school.
6, 4, A, J
A, 5, 4, 2
6, 7, 6, T
T, 8, K, Q
8, J, A, avoiding the disastrous over ruff and continuation 7,
but it doesn't really matter. East is toast.
2, A, 4, 6
2, [b]9, 3, 3
K, 8, Q, Q, etc.


The Zone of Silliness is an unreliable weapon. Consider this exhibit from the end of the match, when Falco's innate defenses had worn down...

Two passes and 1NT (15 to 17) to you. You hold, white on white K8632 Q 952 Q952.
A clear DONT 2 bid at matchpoints, anything else, It looks like a pass. Indeed Falco passed. LHO transferred to hearts, RHO accepted and now Falco backed in with a standard 2 bid, turning +50/-110 (It's late, and I'm not going to put a lot of effort into this), into -300, holding his margin of victory to 2 IMPs. All's well that ends well.
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Of course, things got sillier as the match progressed.

1st seat, red vs. white, the uncontested auction with...
Code:
T6        AK752
QT5432    -
AJ86      K542
4         AQ86
1 - 1NT (presumably forcing) - 2 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5
, even if it makes, with three high side-cards and a total cross-ruff. IMO, with a three-suited hand, opener should not rebid the lowest of his suits.
To follow-up, looking at this month's MSC, I'm taking the rule of thumb to be:

With a five card major and two four card minors, bid the major first. For rebids, a) with a weak hand, bid diamonds at the two level; b) with a strong hand, bid clubs at the three level.
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I was kibbitzing at the table of an AO regular who shall remain... late, and saw this.

IMP Pairs
All Vul
3rd seat
Expert

Holding
32
AT
752
AQJ876

RHO, in 2nd seat opens one heart, you overcall two clubs, doubled by LHO, and raised by partner. RHO bids three hearts, and LHO bids four hearts.

Your lead.

Spoiler:

Code:
          KQT6
          842
          84
          T942
8754                AJ9
K3                  QJ9765
AKJT63              Q9
5                   K3
          32
          AT
          752
          AQJ876
I thought the A lead was a bit silly, but then South continued with the diamond 2, 3, 4, 9, ducked the first heart, took the second perforce and then...
Spoiler:

I don't know if the diamond continuation was indicated, (and I'm not saying that I'd have found it ) but I think an expert would have found the diamond continuation... Marked. At this point, it's too late to set the contract, but it would have saved an overtrick. Oh, well.

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A diamond continuation still does beat it: North ruffs, and assuming East overruffs, will eventually get two spade tricks (or a spade and a club if East runs too many trumps).

I think partner probably could have figured it out, but always easier seeing all four hands. He is an expert though (a real one, not a BBO one).
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