Poll: Democrats both tied with McCain

lognormal_guy · #1 04-03-2008, 12:00 PM

Say the Gallupers...

I imagine that once the democrats choose a candidate, this will start to shift back to whoever the Dems select – Obaminton can then shift to the center, more attention will be paid to McCain (and I think it would be better for him if more attention didn’t shift his way) and I assume some of these folks who say “Well, I like Obama but if it’s Hillary v. McCain I’d vote for McCain!” will revert to their party affiliation rather than let McCain win.

SirVLCIV for mod · #2 04-03-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lognormal_guy

Say the Gallupers...

I imagine that once the democrats choose a candidate, this will start to shift back to whoever the Dems select – Obaminton can then shift to the center, more attention will be paid to McCain (and I think it would be better for him if more attention didn’t shift his way) and I assume some of these folks who say “Well, I like Obama but if it’s Hillary v. McCain I’d vote for McCain!” will revert to their party affiliation rather than let McCain win.

Hillary's polling numbers are very deceptive in that some R's are voting for her to help McCain win.

Exiled Man · #3 04-03-2008, 12:05 PM

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Hillary's polling numbers are very deceptive in that some R's are voting for her to help McCain win.

But this is a poll, not a vote. Do you suppose that Republicans are lying to Gallup to make her seem more likely to defeat McCain in November, because they're so afraid of Obama? That a bit too out there for me.

SirVLCIV for mod · #4 04-03-2008, 12:10 PM

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But this is a poll, not a vote. Do you suppose that Republicans are lying to Gallup to make her seem more likely to defeat McCain in November, because they're so afraid of Obama? That a bit too out there for me.

I wouldn't say they are lying in the independent polls with all candidates but I would say any polls having Obama vs Clinton might include people who don't plan to vote for either.

Aaron Brachowitz · #5 04-03-2008, 12:06 PM

We'll see. I think McCain is a stronger general-election candidate than Bush (more eloquent, stronger background, less far-right affiliations) and Bush beat (or tied) the Dems twice. Is there any reason to believe Clinton or Obama are stronger candidates than Gore or Kerry?

lognormal_guy · #6 04-03-2008, 12:09 PM

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We'll see. I think McCain is a stronger general-election candidate than Bush (more eloquent, stronger background, less far-right affiliations) and Bush beat (or tied) the Dems twice. Is there any reason to believe Clinton or Obama are stronger candidates than Gore or Kerry?

I think there are a lot of conservatives (like me!) who won't pick an awful candidate who is the lesser of two evils again (Bush taught us our lessons.) McCain can't even use the Bush strategy of rallying the base, 'cuz he's so soft on the traditional issues (i.e. abortion). Plus the economy is slumping & the war is as or more unpopular than ever - certainly more unpopular than 4 years ago.

I think McCain is gonna get crushed.

Harry · #7 04-03-2008, 12:16 PM

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I think there are a lot of conservatives (like me!) who won't pick an awful candidate who is the lesser of two evils again (Bush taught us our lessons.) McCain can't even use the Bush strategy of rallying the base, 'cuz he's so soft on the traditional issues (i.e. abortion). Plus the economy is slumping & the war is as or more unpopular than ever - certainly more unpopular than 4 years ago.

I think McCain is gonna get crushed.

I thought McCain has a perfect Conservative record on abortion?