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Old 10-29-2008, 08:01 AM
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McCain brought her to the national spotlight, and due to her inability to keep up with the campaign and learn his positions, she fumbled through a bunch of interviews and generally had no idea what was going on. She also mislead the campaign about troopergate during the short vetting process.

She is seen largely as the reason why the McCain campaign has fallen in the polls. Many of the top advisors think that the campaign is done, and blame Palin for much of it. As part of throwing in the towell in the last week of the campaign, they are set to destroy the person who destroyed McCain's run in an attempt to prevent her from ever gaining personally from the national attention this has brought her. Anonymous sources calling her a diva, going rogue, etc.

No link, just my own observation..
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She was one part of it. Another other part, someone else may have already mentioned, is that the McCain "story" kept changing. Every month, Obama was something different. A terrorist. Member of a Christian church with an extreme minister. A Muslim. Elite. Risky. He failed to create a consistent, negative story about Obama.
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She was one part of it. Another other part, someone else may have already mentioned, is that the McCain "story" kept changing. Every month, Obama was something different. A terrorist. Member of a Christian church with an extreme minister. A Muslim. Elite. Risky. He failed to create a consistent, negative story about Obama.
Right, the McCain campaign has been run horribly. But it is easier to single out one person when you are one of the people running the campaign, it is also harder to see your own missteps.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:12 AM
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2 point difference with 6 days to go, is not an impossible hurdle. So I wouldn't say the McCain campaign is done.

During the next week, I doubt you will hear anything negative about Palin from the McCain camp. I assume that the leaks were really from the Obama camp, trying to make the McCain camp look stupid.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:24 AM
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2 point difference with 6 days to go, is not an impossible hurdle. So I wouldn't say the McCain campaign is done.

During the next week, I doubt you will hear anything negative about Palin from the McCain camp. I assume that the leaks were really from the Obama camp, trying to make the McCain camp look stupid.
2 points on the most favorable poll out there. 15 if you want to pick the one most favorable to Obama.

The McCain campaign is not over, but in reality, have more of a 5-6 point gap to make up.
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2 point difference with 6 days to go, is not an impossible hurdle. So I wouldn't say the McCain campaign is done.

During the next week, I doubt you will hear anything negative about Palin from the McCain camp. I assume that the leaks were really from the Obama camp, trying to make the McCain camp look stupid.
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2 points on the most favorable poll out there. 15 if you want to pick the one most favorable to Obama.

The McCain campaign is not over, but in reality, have more of a 5-6 point gap to make up.
Electorally, he's got a lot more ground to make up than that.
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I assume that the leaks were really from the Obama camp, trying to make the McCain camp look stupid.

????Are you saying the Obama camp has spies in the Mccain campaign?
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She was one part of it. Another other part, someone else may have already mentioned, is that the McCain "story" kept changing. Every month, Obama was something different. A terrorist. Member of a Christian church with an extreme minister. A Muslim. Elite. Risky. He failed to create a consistent, negative story about Obama.
I'm not sure if being completely wrong about everything is your schtick so forgive me if I am falling into a troll trap here but:

terrorist: neither Clinton nor McCain claimed Obama was a terrorist
Wright: Clinton went after this, McCain did not.
Muslim: Neither Clinton nor McCain made this claim.
Elite: Clinton but not McCain and mostly taking advantage of Obama chastising rural Pennsylvania residents voting based on constitutional rights and religious freedom rather than their pocketbook, which I think seemed elitist to any reasonable person.
Risky: This is McCain
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I'm not sure if being completely wrong about everything is your schtick so forgive me if I am falling into a troll trap here but:

terrorist: neither Clinton nor McCain claimed Obama was a terrorist
Wright: Clinton went after this, McCain did not.
Muslim: Neither Clinton nor McCain made this claim.
Elite: Clinton but not McCain and mostly taking advantage of Obama chastising rural Pennsylvania residents voting based on constitutional rights and religious freedom rather than their pocketbook, which I think seemed elitist to any reasonable person.
Risky: This is McCain
Ok, you're right about the terrorist thing. They ONLY said he pals around with terrorists and large parts of their base believe he is one (arab=terrorist in some peoples minds, unfortunately)

Didn't McCain do the celebrity ads? I file that under the "elite" category.

I'll have to look up the Wright/Muslim stuff later.
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She was one part of it. Another other part, someone else may have already mentioned, is that the McCain "story" kept changing. Every month, Obama was something different. A terrorist. Member of a Christian church with an extreme minister. A Muslim. Elite. Risky. He failed to create a consistent, negative story about Obama.
Those are so "yesterday"; he's a socialist this week.
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