SSH - Challenge

[MNBridge]

OK based on some threads I'm seeing today it looks like people are ready to REALLY improve their games. And that gets my juices flowing! Cause like I have said before I think the talent potential on the forum is greater than any other professional forum in the world.

I challenge players to play 100 hands of 2/4 per week (or whatever) using only the guidelines in SSH for preflop strategy.

If you lose I will cover 50% of your loss, if you win I get 25% of your winnings. (we will use 4 sessions as a base before paying off). But weekly updates are needed and either party may stop at anytime.

= You may NOT play higher than 2/4 and you must follow the rules in SSH for preflop strategy Tight- Games exactly*).
= you must tell me when you are playing (in advance) I will then cover the next 100 hands at that table
= Use tracker to see when it is 100 hands (This is only available to people to have tracker - if you don't have Tracker my offer is void)

I will ask that all hands be attached here. I will be creating a separate database for this and commenting on play (Nothing is meant to mean I don't like you - if this may present a problem I would advise against the challenge)
To be fair I will also post 100 hands here each week and if people would like to comment they may.

*I will find the rules before we start.

-- If I find a hand where you did not play accrding to SSH I have the right to consider that hand (if you win $'s on it) or throw that hand out and retally your results based on had you not lost that hand. (This is a hand by hand adjustment)
exceptions:
1) If you were a winner overall this adjustment is not in effect
2) If you lost the most this adjustment can do is bring me back to even
For example: You lose $40. I find a hand where you called a raise with 89o and lost $50. You 'adjusted' total is now +$10 -- So no transfer will take place.
Say in the same section I also find a hand where you WON $50 calling a raise with 89o. I will NOT remove this hand and you adjusted total will still be +$10. No transfer would take place.

I'd prefer NO ONE took this bet. But I want to get some good discussion going on limit play, and if this helps out in the regard I'm willing.
-- Plus it will FORCE you to play a certain game, that may be out of your comfort zone. That's good --

[Sotally Tober]

Why Tight rules? Miller says to assume loose rules until you know otherwise, not the other way around. And at 2/4, you can damn well guarantee the table is loose.

Don't want the variance since you are reinsuring 50%? Just wondering.

[Expunge]

Originally Posted by Sotally Tober

Why Tight rules? Miller says to assume loose rules until you know otherwise, not the other way around. And at 2/4, you can damn well guarantee the table is loose.

Don't want the variance since you are reinsuring 50%? Just wondering.

Millers assumption assumes you are playing in a live game...

Online where seen flop percentages are know, you'll rarely find a 2/4 game with >40 or 50% flops seen.

[MNBridge]

Originally Posted by Sotally Tober

Why Tight rules? Miller says to assume loose rules until you know otherwise, not the other way around. And at 2/4, you can damn well guarantee the table is loose.

Don't want the variance since you are reinsuring 50%? Just wondering.

Because I would expect people to look at the 2/4 game as a stepping stone to the bigger ones. Yes, you may win less at 2/4 but you will be better prepared for the higher limits.

And quite honestly I never (except Friday and Saturday nights possibly ) found games as loose as what he described.

* I generally played somewhere in the middle myself. And now I have a few things I do differently. (I almost never limp first in for example).

You know, I have been resisting the urge to buy SSH on principle, but I am almost ready to cave.

However, I think MN hit it on the head, there seems to be a swelling of people that have been in that battlefield for a while, and we haven't taken the time to sharpen our skills (via reading or what not).

I know I wanted to take a break and it only lasted 2 weeks. Rather than go back and read, I decided to drop down back to the levels where I first started playing (which would be like the 2/4 tables MN talked about - but since I am not really a limit player, I went to $10 s&gs).

So far so good. I turned my $15 I had on party into $290 (as of last night) just from playing the smaller limits. Not only has my bankroll improved, but my game has...dramatically. I have been much more patient, laying hands down like TPTK, or TT preflop if the situation warrents - and that was always the hardest part of my game was making those kind of laydowns.

The point is, MNBridge is onto something here. I think the best way to develop your game is to swallow your pride (another thing that is hard for me to do) and drop back down to the smaller limits and sharpen your game. Not only that, but it will give you confidence to use your new tools, too.

[Bama Gambler]

Originally Posted by lawfi5h

You know, I have been resisting the urge to buy SSH on principle, but I am almost ready to cave.

What principle is that?

[hardinda]

Originally Posted by Bama Gambler

What principle is that?

It's the principal for retirement from poker

[lipman]

Im in (that I will post 100 hands) but I won't take the challenge.

Anything to get my game better without exposing others to risk is quite alright with me.

(and now I have something to review over lunch today)

Originally Posted by Bama Gambler

What principle is that?

You guys didn't do a good job selling the book. It didn't seem to offer any new advice that other books (like the one from Jones) had to offer.

[squareone]

::Raises hand::

What is SSH?