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Old 10-29-2008, 08:01 AM
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McCain brought her to the national spotlight, and due to her inability to keep up with the campaign and learn his positions, she fumbled through a bunch of interviews and generally had no idea what was going on. She also mislead the campaign about troopergate during the short vetting process.

She is seen largely as the reason why the McCain campaign has fallen in the polls. Many of the top advisors think that the campaign is done, and blame Palin for much of it. As part of throwing in the towell in the last week of the campaign, they are set to destroy the person who destroyed McCain's run in an attempt to prevent her from ever gaining personally from the national attention this has brought her. Anonymous sources calling her a diva, going rogue, etc.

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She was one part of it. Another other part, someone else may have already mentioned, is that the McCain "story" kept changing. Every month, Obama was something different. A terrorist. Member of a Christian church with an extreme minister. A Muslim. Elite. Risky. He failed to create a consistent, negative story about Obama.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:08 AM
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She was one part of it. Another other part, someone else may have already mentioned, is that the McCain "story" kept changing. Every month, Obama was something different. A terrorist. Member of a Christian church with an extreme minister. A Muslim. Elite. Risky. He failed to create a consistent, negative story about Obama.
Right, the McCain campaign has been run horribly. But it is easier to single out one person when you are one of the people running the campaign, it is also harder to see your own missteps.
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2 point difference with 6 days to go, is not an impossible hurdle. So I wouldn't say the McCain campaign is done.

During the next week, I doubt you will hear anything negative about Palin from the McCain camp. I assume that the leaks were really from the Obama camp, trying to make the McCain camp look stupid.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:16 AM
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She is seen largely as the reason why the McCain campaign has fallen in the polls.
Your team thinks that, but it's only based on what the people on your team think of her. And they were never going to vote for McCain anyway.

The Republican base still loves her. She's attracting huge crowds everywhere she goes. I don't know if she can win the nomination in 2012, but she's got a better chance at it today than she did the day before McCain picked her.
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2 point difference with 6 days to go, is not an impossible hurdle. So I wouldn't say the McCain campaign is done.

During the next week, I doubt you will hear anything negative about Palin from the McCain camp. I assume that the leaks were really from the Obama camp, trying to make the McCain camp look stupid.
2 points on the most favorable poll out there. 15 if you want to pick the one most favorable to Obama.

The McCain campaign is not over, but in reality, have more of a 5-6 point gap to make up.
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Your team thinks that, but it's only based on what the people on your team think of her. And they were never going to vote for McCain anyway.

The Republican base still loves her. She's attracting huge crowds everywhere she goes. I don't know if she can win the nomination in 2012, but she's got a better chance at it today than she did the day before McCain picked her.
If the Republican base puts their eggs in her basket, I foresee another failure for them in 4 more years. The wacko stuff she personally believes in, her obsession with loyalty and her overall ineptitude (interviewing, geography, history, playing nice with others-the list goes on) are all very big turn-offs to non-core party members (left of center R's, independents). She'll have four years to practice on fixing some of these things, though. Obama would have to do a really bad job for me to pull the lever for a ticket with Palin on it.
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I assume that the leaks were really from the Obama camp, trying to make the McCain camp look stupid.

????Are you saying the Obama camp has spies in the Mccain campaign?
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If the Republican base puts their eggs in her basket, I foresee another failure for them in 4 more years.
Unless you predicted Obama 4 years ago, (and no one did) I don't have a lot of confidence in your ability to predict what's going to happen in 2012. There are a lot of similarities between Palin and Obama. Not in their political views, obviously, but in their lack of experience, their ability to give a good speech and get their party's base fired up.
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Unless you predicted Obama 4 years ago, (and no one did) I don't have a lot of confidence in your ability to predict what's going to happen in 2012. There are a lot of similarities between Palin and Obama. Not in their political views, obviously, but in their lack of experience, their ability to give a good speech and get their party's base fired up.
Is it possible if Stevens wins and goes to jail, she would get his seat (assuming she isn't VP)? Doesn't the governor usually choose? How would that work?
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