Rickyfire's Paleo Challenge

[ReserveRage]

Originally Posted by Stan

This sounds like a horrible idea

Why horrible? If the goal is to lose weight (fat) and get faster at running, then one should obviously practice running a heck of a lot more than they're used to. What I've always found is that in response to the increases cardio/calorie burning, your body wants to consume enough calories to maintain your starting weight. If you eat enough so that you're not starving, but not fully satiated, that's usually a good recipe for fat loss without sacrificing performance gains. YMMV.

[Stan]

After some quick research, it appears that lean meats is not a part of the diet (as I would have thought). According to wikipedia, pasture raised animals are common, which I would not consider to be lean meat. Sure, some cuts of meat will be leaner than others (such as chicken breast) but I guarantee that our ancestors would have eaten the whole chicken, which contains a lot of nutrients and fats not found in the common meats.

According to wikipedia: "This high ratio of polyunsaturated to saturated fats has been challenged. While a low saturated fat intake was argued for[65] it has been argued that hunter-gatherers would selectively hunt fatter animals and utilise the fattiest parts of the animals (such as bone marrow"

So, please eat fats. If not, please don't call this a paleo diet, it is more just a low carb diet (a point that I agree with).

[Rickyfire]

as taken from Loren Cordain's Website

Paleo Diet Basics
How Does The Paleo Diet Work?

With readily available modern foods, The Paleo Diet mimics the types of foods every single person on the planet ate prior to the Agricultural Revolution (a mere 500 generations ago). These foods (fresh fruits, vegetables, lean meats, and seafood) are high in the beneficial nutrients (soluble fiber, antioxidant vitamins, phytochemicals, omega-3 and monounsaturated fats, and low-glycemic carbohydrates) that promote good health and are low in the foods and nutrients (refined sugars and grains, saturated and trans fats, salt, high-glycemic carbohydrates, and processed foods) that frequently may cause weight gain, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and numerous other health problems. The Paleo Diet encourages dieters to replace dairy and grain products with fresh fruits and vegetables -- foods that are more nutritious than whole grains or dairy products.

The diet is roughly 40% Carb, 30% Fat, 30% Protein.

[Stan]

Yes, but clearly that person is an idiot. The fat has always been the most prized part of the animal, which has led to brain growth over the last 10,000 years. To ignore this is idiotic. Unfortunately, most people don't even have the knowledge to ignore.

[Rickyfire]

Uh, he started paleo....

[Stan]

Originally Posted by Rickyfire

Uh, he started paleo....

While that may be true, advocating low fat diets is stupid.

[Rickyfire]

what's low fat about 30%?

[Stan]

Originally Posted by Rickyfire

what's low fat about 30%?

I don't know what the percentage is, but people should be eating these healthy fats. The more the better really, and the words lean meat should never be used.

[Rickyfire]

Honestly I have no idea what you are talking about. The diet is 30% fats, encourages consumption of olive oil, avocado, fish oil, coconut oil, and lean meats refers to things like wild boar, venison, and bison. We still eat bacon, chicken, beef, lamb, and all kinds of fish.

[Stan]

Originally Posted by Rickyfire

Honestly I have no idea what you are talking about. The diet is 30% fats, encourages consumption of olive oil, avocado, fish oil, coconut oil, and lean meats refers to things like wild boar, venison, and bison. We still eat bacon, chicken, beef, lamb, and all kinds of fish.

When you get your meat, (beef, chicken etc) do you either remove fat or only eat the leanest cuts of meats? If so, that is what I am getting at. Sure, bison is a leaner meat than say a grain-fed ribeye, but I would not exactly call it a lean meat. Using that term would indicate that you are staying away from animal fats.

If you eat beef, lamb, bacon etc, but say that you eat lean meats, then what is your version of a non-lean meat?