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That's because he's dead.
Which would mean he votes for Democrats.
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Reagan said things like "Church and state are, and must forever remain, separate." That wouldn't fly in today's GOP.
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Reagan said things like "Church and state are, and must forever remain, separate." That wouldn't fly in today's GOP.
Nobody is perfect. Reagan was pretty close.
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Reagan said things like "Church and state are, and must forever remain, separate." That wouldn't fly in today's GOP.
Really? Who is saying that Church and state should be integrated?
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Reagan said things like "Church and state are, and must forever remain, separate." That wouldn't fly in today's GOP.
Context was important. It's not like he was angling to stop Christmas from being a federal holiday or cancel the tree-lighting ceremony.

In the context in which Reagan meant it, I don't think you'd find too many elected Republicans who feel differently.
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Reagan said things like "Church and state are, and must forever remain, separate." That wouldn't fly in today's GOP.
The "Moral Majority" ramped up at that time and strongly influenced the GOP, so your point is lost.
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That was a horrendous year, as I recall. Hostages, failed rescue mission, Three Mile Island, interest rates sky-high, and lots of stupid shows on TV. Anyone remember Real People? CHiPs? Dukes of Hazzard?
Wait, I forgot that "Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back" was released in 1980, thus totally redeeming that year. Redeem that year, it did.
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I'm just glad the games aren't being held in Arizona or being sponsored by ChickFla. Pretty sure those two provocative acts would make 1980 look like a party.


Anyway, unless the Soviets got 3000 innocent people killed in an attack by Afghanistan....I'm not seeing the parallel.
Yup. That changes EVERYTHING because nobody has ever died in other countries.

3000 innocent Americans (redundant) died on 9/11. This means everything changed:

* Suspend our constitution.
* Spend more than necessary on the military.
* Invade multiple countries, and stay there for over 10 years.
* Max 3 ounces of liquid on a plane.

Imagine if it had been 10,000 innocent Americans?
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