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View Poll Results: Vote for SoA 2012 President-Elect
FSA for William J. Falk 6 15.79%
FSA for Mark J. Freedman 4 10.53%
ASA/CERA for William J. Falk 1 2.63%
ASA/CERA for Mark J. Freedman 1 2.63%
non-SoA for William J. Falk 0 0%
non-SoA for Mark J. Freedman 2 5.26%
no preference/42 24 63.16%
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:37 AM
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Current Board members are not allowed to criticize Board policy. If any nominee publicly supported putting Tom on the ballot, they would have to resign from the Board. A nominee who wanted to publicly support Tom's right to be on the ballot should resign from the Board, but continue to be on the ballot. That would be the intellectually honest thing to do and I would respect that person and probably vote for him.

Nominees who are currently on the Board have limited credibility, since they cannot identify any policies that they disagree with. That seems to guarantee that all policies will continue unchanged.
I don't understand why that would be the intellectually honest thing to do. But I guess it really does not matter since it is not going to happen anyway. If he resigned and stayed on the ballot, I'd be all for that. I just suspect the Board would find a way to remove him from the ballot.

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Current prez of CAS is a retired actuary.
How's that working out?
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:42 PM
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Current Board members are not allowed to criticize Board policy. If any nominee publicly supported putting Tom on the ballot, they would have to resign from the Board. A nominee who wanted to publicly support Tom's right to be on the ballot should resign from the Board, but continue to be on the ballot. That would be the intellectually honest thing to do and I would respect that person and probably vote for him.

Nominees who are currently on the Board have limited credibility, since they cannot identify any policies that they disagree with. That seems to guarantee that all policies will continue unchanged.
Here is the obvious: criticizing on this forum and in SOA board meetings are different things.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:26 PM
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I once heard of an election format in which "none of the above are acceptable to me". If that won more votes than any named candidate, the election was repeated and all named candidates on the first ballot were disallowed from the second ballot.

If that applied in the SOA (or heck, in the USA) I would likely use it all the time.

For logistical reasons I can see why it'd be tough to implement.
For pro-Bakos people, I don't see what good this would do. So these candidates are rejected... then what? The SOA people find 2-3 more non-Bakos candidates. Rinse and repeat.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:28 PM
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Do either of the candidates on the ballot have any statements on FEM?
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:20 PM
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I cast my write-in vote for Bakos.
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I cast my write-in vote for Bakos.
As did I.
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