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Old 12-09-2014, 05:43 PM
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Miguel Montero for Jefferson Mejia and Zack Godley
who and who? sounds like the Cubs picking up their C for a pure salary dump from AZ
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:52 PM
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7th overall in fWAR over the past 5 years, 6th last year. If you prefer RA9-WAR, he is 8th and 7th over those times.

Yeah, he is pretty good and $25M doesn't buy what it used to.
Agree that he's pretty good.

Also, market often gets driven by best available. He and Scherzer are the big names on the market.
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:04 PM
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who and who? sounds like the Cubs picking up their C for a pure salary dump from AZ
Mejia was a July 2nd bonus pickup in 2013. Signed for $850k I believe. He has been slotted in the 18-20 range in the Cubs system. Played in Rookie ball last year last year I think. Has a big fastball but lacks secondary pitches and command right now. Purely a lottery ticket at this point.

My reaction to Godley was also "Who?"
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:05 PM
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Sources: Now that Miguel Montero is dealt, the next move for Chicago is to trade Welington Castillo. Had explored deals during Martin chase.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) December 9, 2014
Gordon Edes also says that the Cubs are meeting with David Ross tonight. Ross was Lester's catcher in Boston this year and they worked pretty well together: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/jon-l...rite-teammate/. They also seem to be good friends. Read into that what you will.
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:24 PM
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What kind of big bat is out there for a trade in positions we have open???

Upton, Gattis, Kemp, CarGo, Tulo (not going to happen), Zobrist (also, probably not going to happen)
If the Dodgers miss out on someone like Grandal, then trading a package that includes Castillo makes some sense. Scott Van Slyke would be cool.

ETA: Rumors were that Dexter Fowler has been made available as well. He is a shitty fielding CF but is a good bat and has the ability to hit from the left side. Not sure whether the Cubs match up well with the Astros though. He is also a free agent next year, but hey if the Cubs are going to make a run for it...

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Meh. You'll be paying $25M to a guy who's never been worth $25M and is on the wrong side of his career. Better hope you win it all in the next two years, but it doesn't make sense to me that the Cubs would be in GFIN mode.
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Better win in the next two years or else what? The pre-FA core leaves?

Players who will see significant time and are locked up on pre-FA terms or below market value extensions through at least 2019: Castro, Rizzo, Baez, Bryant, Soler, Alcantara, Hendricks

Arrieta isn't a FA until 2018. Schwarber and Russell are two more A/A- specs who should start seeing time in the next 2-3 years, plus a whole lot of depth and lottery tickets beyond that.

Thanks to a young cost-controlled core, they don't have much money tied up elsewhere. They have financial flexibility to go after a time or two in FA.

A TORP costs $25M per year. Scherzer will get more than that. Next year's FA crop will be in that range. At some point, teams need to realize they will give "too high" contracts if they want to participate in free agency, or that those contracts were never too high in the first place. Besides, it seemed that other recently successful teams were willing to go near $25M per (Red Sox and Giants).
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Meh. You'll be paying $25M to a guy who's never been worth $25M and is on the wrong side of his career. Better hope you win it all in the next two years, but it doesn't make sense to me that the Cubs would be in GFIN mode.
He was worth 6.1 fWAR last year. You'd need a really, really conservative $/WAR estimate to not get to $25m.
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Meh. You'll be paying $25M to a guy who's never been worth $25M and is on the wrong side of his career. Better hope you win it all in the next two years, but it doesn't make sense to me that the Cubs would be in GFIN mode.
The Cubs cut out old contracts and hoard young talent - they are too cheap.

The Cubs go out and sign a TORP - they throw money away.

If you step back, it's been obvious for sometime what the Cubs were doing. MrF got it right. Their young core is cost controlled through 2019 and beyond, and they have the scouting/development infrastructure in place to keep feeding it (though, obviously, not as quickly as when they had top 5 picks in the draft). Their payroll is so low right now they have the luxury of over spending on Lester (though, if Sandavol is worth $100m, it's hard to think that Lester isn't worth $150m).

And when all that core needs locked up long term (2019), the new TV deal will be in place and the income from the Wrigley renovation will be in place.
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